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:00:00. > :00:00.further than her real time. That's all for now but time for a look at

:00:00. > :00:12.the papers. Hello and welcome to our Sunday

:00:13. > :00:15.morning edition of The Papers. With me are this morning's reviewers

:00:16. > :00:22.are the columnist and broadcaster Yasmin Alibhai Brown and former

:00:23. > :00:24.Foreign Correspondent and author The Observer quotes a former Tory

:00:25. > :00:32.health minister calling for a new tax to fund

:00:33. > :00:40.the NHS and social care. The Sunday Telegraph says

:00:41. > :00:42.Theresa May is asking her ministers for their personal

:00:43. > :00:45.Brexit blueprints. More lives could be lost

:00:46. > :00:47.on Britain's beaches according to the Sunday Express -

:00:48. > :00:50.which blames cuts for leaving coast The Mail on Sunday claims victory

:00:51. > :01:03.over plans it says are in place to divert tens of millions of pounds

:01:04. > :01:06.in foreign aid to fund Peter Sutcliffe's fears

:01:07. > :01:08.over being transferred from Broadmoor Hospital

:01:09. > :01:10.into a prison is the Sunday And the Sunday Mirror says a brother

:01:11. > :01:21.of four time Olympic champion Mo Farah, faces being forced

:01:22. > :01:37.to move back to Somalia. Let's begin, good morning to you

:01:38. > :01:41.both. For restarting? The Telegraph. The Sunday Telegraph has a

:01:42. > :01:44.front-page story entitled me, the Brexit in force. Talking about how

:01:45. > :01:48.the Prime Minister has asked all Cabinet and the stress to come up

:01:49. > :01:54.with blueprints of what breaks it will look like. Dash-macro where are

:01:55. > :01:59.we starting? Pro-EU civil servants, claim, that they will thwart the

:02:00. > :02:03.entire enterprise. The story is a little bit like something you would

:02:04. > :02:07.find in Pravda or a state-sponsored media in the Eastern Bloc, we go

:02:08. > :02:12.after the immigrants, now it's the civil servants who stop us from

:02:13. > :02:15.leaving. Not a shred of evidence to back up that assertion, just an

:02:16. > :02:20.unnamed government sources and a rather hysterical sounding Tory MPs

:02:21. > :02:27.saying we need emergency legislation if anyone does this, so they can be

:02:28. > :02:31.fired. A thin story. This has gone on for a while, always this thing

:02:32. > :02:38.that the Foreign Office is full of lefties. There is this atmosphere

:02:39. > :02:46.why isn't Brexit happening now? It can't happen now. It's the fear in

:02:47. > :02:52.the Cabinet which is... Essentially add each other's throats... Fear is

:02:53. > :02:59.too good a word, it's hysteria. I don't envy misses me at all, she

:03:00. > :03:06.must feel she is ruling over the most dysfunctional family ever in

:03:07. > :03:11.her Cabinet. You say dysfunctional, why do you think she is doing this?

:03:12. > :03:15.Because a lot of her team are probably thinking, no... What is the

:03:16. > :03:22.point of this? Is she trying to unify them all... I don't think,

:03:23. > :03:27.Matthew, what do you think? The right of the Tory party will never

:03:28. > :03:30.be satisfied, they got their vote, their place, they will never be

:03:31. > :03:37.satisfied and I think this is one way that this it destroyed Cameron,

:03:38. > :03:42.Haig, everybody it has ever come... You see the issue in the first

:03:43. > :03:46.paragraph of the story, me ordering every Cabinet minister to, but the

:03:47. > :03:50.personal blueprint for Brexit. Guess what, we don't get to decide the

:03:51. > :03:56.Brexit blueprint, we have to negotiate that with the EU, the idea

:03:57. > :03:59.that a Cabinet minister will chip in and create a dream version of

:04:00. > :04:03.Brexit, we are living in a fantasy land. It's time that the media

:04:04. > :04:07.rather than repeating this nonsense, held politicians to account.

:04:08. > :04:12.Interesting to know if she will read each account! You can imagine the

:04:13. > :04:18.scene, who will come first in this rather awkward, shuffling silence.

:04:19. > :04:24.Hand your homework! Laughter-macro we turn to the Times newspaper...

:04:25. > :04:34.The front page, we are going with Theresa May... What is the theme

:04:35. > :04:37.with this? Like I said, no one can do anything that is enough for the

:04:38. > :04:46.Brexit side of the Tory party and the Cabinet. Here, the story is that

:04:47. > :04:51.Philip Hammond, the Chancellor, is I called, resisting plans for other

:04:52. > :04:55.ministers to pull out of the EU single market. If we pull out of the

:04:56. > :05:02.EU is in gold market, where are we going to trade? Where are we going

:05:03. > :05:07.to go with this thing? It's the problem, we don't know what breaks

:05:08. > :05:11.it actually means, and we can't know what it means until we've had

:05:12. > :05:16.negotiations with the EU and the real headline for this story is

:05:17. > :05:20.actually on the inside page, Angela Merkel and other European leaders

:05:21. > :05:23.have been very clear, either you stay in the single market and allow

:05:24. > :05:29.the free movement of people which is more or less staying in the EU, or

:05:30. > :05:33.you leave the EU and you start to impose controls on immigration, one

:05:34. > :05:37.or the other. We are still reporting the story and talking about it I can

:05:38. > :05:43.we get to choose but guess what? We don't. Again, I'd like to see some

:05:44. > :05:49.of these journalists taking some of the statements with a little bit of

:05:50. > :05:52.a pinch of salt. Don't go for the journalists... I am not going for

:05:53. > :05:57.journalists but as the media I think we need to look at ourselves, we

:05:58. > :06:01.have wandered into Brexit without realising it, how many journalists

:06:02. > :06:05.were surprised about what happened in the referendum result? The reason

:06:06. > :06:10.is we are all focused on the ding-dong in Westminster, we are not

:06:11. > :06:16.getting... What's going on in the regions and beyond the M25, forget

:06:17. > :06:20.that, even outside of Westminster. I think, Yasmin, like you say, this

:06:21. > :06:25.particular article is pointing to the fact it seems to be a turf war

:06:26. > :06:31.at Whitehall. Exactly but also within Cabinet. Somewhere else, it

:06:32. > :06:37.says Boris Johnson and... What's his name... Liam Fox are worried about

:06:38. > :06:43.who is really in charge... What is Labour doing? Never mind the

:06:44. > :06:48.journalists, what is Labour doing here? It is talking about trains.

:06:49. > :06:56.They should be having a field day, really. OK... Let's turn to the Mail

:06:57. > :07:00.on Sunday. We are going to go inside the paper, the Page three, this was

:07:01. > :07:05.an astonishing read, I don't know what you thought of this. Good Queen

:07:06. > :07:18.Tess... Yes, the submarine Prime Minister

:07:19. > :07:22.because unlike David Cameron she hasn't been popping out of number

:07:23. > :07:26.ten every day with a new sound bite and she's given an interview to the

:07:27. > :07:34.Windsor Maidenhead and Arscott magazine which the Daily Mail

:07:35. > :07:37.describes as astonishingly candid. Dash-macro the Mail on Sunday. But

:07:38. > :07:43.it's not bad candid, she talks about not liking snakes... And not liking

:07:44. > :07:47.her nose. I don't think we get a really powerful insight into the

:07:48. > :07:50.inner workings of her psyche but the Mail on Sunday gives an excuse to

:07:51. > :07:56.mark up an image of her looking like Elizabeth Everest. Because she's

:07:57. > :08:01.such a private... I once remember cheering her at a meeting on women

:08:02. > :08:05.in politics, honestly, she was terrifyingly right but also,

:08:06. > :08:12.terrifyingly unknowable, you never knew what position she would take. I

:08:13. > :08:16.mean, I can see where her power comes from, it's interesting to see

:08:17. > :08:22.that she lost her husband and to see a softer side to her. Interestingly

:08:23. > :08:24.she says the qualities she likes another's is conceived and any

:08:25. > :08:28.psychologist will tell you the things we don't like another people

:08:29. > :08:32.tend to be the things we don't see in ourselves, that is my

:08:33. > :08:36.psychoanalysis for this morning. I wonder how on earth they got onto

:08:37. > :08:40.the subject of her nose. That is because she is a woman and all

:08:41. > :08:45.women, as we know, judge themselves by how we look. We put it out there,

:08:46. > :08:49.don't we? Would they ask Liam Fox what part of you do you hate most

:08:50. > :08:54.and witty even tell us? No, there would be a withering stare. The

:08:55. > :09:02.Observer newspaper... Perhaps more serious matters, the NHS, maybe a

:09:03. > :09:07.rescue plan? A call for a rescue plan, the former Tory Health

:09:08. > :09:12.Minister Doctor down Poulter, an MP and part-time doctor, saying we need

:09:13. > :09:17.a new tax for the NHS and social care to stop the system collapsing.

:09:18. > :09:22.It's been widely reported that the NHS will face a ?20 billion

:09:23. > :09:25.shortfall by 2020, a huge amount of money, and he is coming forward

:09:26. > :09:30.saying we need to radically rethink the options and Conservative Party

:09:31. > :09:34.doesn't like taxes but maybe we need to think about ringing one in to

:09:35. > :09:42.steer the ship away from the rocks. Yes, absolutely but I think there

:09:43. > :09:47.needs to be blue sky thinking. We have got such a fast growing, ageing

:09:48. > :09:51.population. Often they are stuck in hospital beds because they have

:09:52. > :09:56.nowhere to go. We should spend public money on a halfway house, a

:09:57. > :10:01.really good place for older people in particular with complex problems,

:10:02. > :10:05.can go after hospital. And get social care rather than medical

:10:06. > :10:12.care. We need to do that, to think much more about building a sector,

:10:13. > :10:16.rather than cutting back. That's going to cost though, isn't it? If

:10:17. > :10:22.we don't do it, the National Health Service is going to collapse. Do you

:10:23. > :10:27.think the NHS has a future, Yasmin? It has to have a future, the one

:10:28. > :10:30.thing that binds everyone in this country, whatever their political

:10:31. > :10:34.persuasion, despite the tiny minority that goes to private health

:10:35. > :10:38.care. It means a lot and I think we should do something. Interestingly,

:10:39. > :10:43.only a week or to-macro ago about how the government caved in to

:10:44. > :10:46.pressure from the sugar industry, food industry, about plans to reduce

:10:47. > :10:51.the amount of sugar in food which has shot up over the last few

:10:52. > :10:55.decades. One aspect of the problem the NHS is, we need to become

:10:56. > :11:00.healthier as a country under the government is not willing to take

:11:01. > :11:04.hard line in favour of public health instead of bowing down to corporate

:11:05. > :11:09.interest, we have a problem. The problem with the big programme,

:11:10. > :11:17.everyone eating cake! I am not with you on that, I think we need one

:11:18. > :11:21.show a week... But I love that. We are sticking with the NHS, turning

:11:22. > :11:26.to page two of the Times newspaper. Yasmin, I think you picked up the

:11:27. > :11:32.bed shortage element. This is what the Times is focusing on, on page

:11:33. > :11:37.two, bed shortage of sending NHS back to the dark days of the

:11:38. > :11:43.1980s... I don't know if the viewers can see that, there we go. Yes, it's

:11:44. > :11:48.the same thing, not that there is a bed shortage but patients can't go

:11:49. > :11:54.home, especially those who are on their own, widows, widowers whose

:11:55. > :11:58.families might be far away. There is a terrible situation with people who

:11:59. > :12:03.are physically better but mentally and emotionally in need, who are in

:12:04. > :12:09.our hospitals and they shouldn't be, hospitals are miserable places for

:12:10. > :12:15.most of us. There has got to be a big rethink on this, I think. It

:12:16. > :12:18.seems there is a breakdown in the social care and the hospitals, you

:12:19. > :12:22.would think they would be working a little bit closer together. They

:12:23. > :12:27.keep saying they are going to and the Kings Fund think tank, which has

:12:28. > :12:32.been in existence, a very good, serious think tank, has been talking

:12:33. > :12:35.about having a kind of United service perhaps of Health and Social

:12:36. > :12:40.Care Bill. It just doesn't seem to have happened. I don't know why.

:12:41. > :12:44.Look at the statistics quickly, the Patients' Association revealing the

:12:45. > :12:50.total number of people waiting more than 18 weeks for surgery had risen

:12:51. > :13:00.to just under 90 3000. Almost doubled from what it was in 2015.

:13:01. > :13:10.Sorry, 2014, 51,000, now almost double. OK. Let's turn to the

:13:11. > :13:19.mail... Going back in, page four, this is a story that I think they

:13:20. > :13:22.picked up on the front page... That's right, claiming victory in

:13:23. > :13:28.the campaign to cut back on foreign aid. I mean, actually this is a

:13:29. > :13:31.fascinating story on many levels. The Mail on Sunday running a series

:13:32. > :13:37.of Expose is over the last few months about aid being wasted in

:13:38. > :13:43.many compelling ways, actually, and there is a spread of examples on the

:13:44. > :13:45.inside pages. And the government has essentially said it is going to

:13:46. > :13:50.divert the tens of millions of pounds that was in the aid budget to

:13:51. > :13:54.fund... What the Mail on Sunday calls the war on terror. I have

:13:55. > :13:59.worked abroad for many years, seen how a lot of our aid dollars go to

:14:00. > :14:02.waste and I think there is absolutely a case for reforming the

:14:03. > :14:08.way Britain distributes foreign aid. What have you seen? You go to

:14:09. > :14:15.Afghanistan, I worked there for three years. The British military

:14:16. > :14:20.and an agency were working hand-in-hand creating dash-macro

:14:21. > :14:25.creating projects that were overrun by the Taliban. We have seen what

:14:26. > :14:29.happened in Helmand in the last few weeks, virtually falling to the

:14:30. > :14:34.insurgents. And as examples of money going to waste, not hard to find.

:14:35. > :14:45.But the idea that you can somehow take that money and spend it... Or

:14:46. > :14:49.you can read to aid or submit aid to foreign policy objectives is... It

:14:50. > :14:54.is so wrong and there are bad examples and I know them but also,

:14:55. > :15:00.in many, many areas, the aid is essential and it is, the smaller

:15:01. > :15:04.projects are really good and they work and they send out independent

:15:05. > :15:08.evaluators. This is just crazy, we are going to spend the money on the

:15:09. > :15:14.war on terror, kill using weapons to kill people and creating... It is

:15:15. > :15:21.total nonsense, Priti Patel has been at the forefront of wanting this

:15:22. > :15:26.department closed. Very quickly... We have about 40 seconds on the

:15:27. > :15:30.express... Hanging onto our inheritance, what do you think about

:15:31. > :15:37.this? The Coronet... I really couldn't care less! Since you are

:15:38. > :15:40.asking... I think it is clearly an excuse to print a picture of Aidan

:15:41. > :15:48.Turner doing his surviving which is... Wrong story! Clearly

:15:49. > :15:52.justification for the Sunday express talking about the Coronet which is

:15:53. > :15:59.being blocked for being sold abroad for ?5 million. Our heritage is

:16:00. > :16:07.safe! Yasmin and Matthew thank you very much. That was our look at the

:16:08. > :16:11.papers and of course a reminder that you can take a look at tomorrow's

:16:12. > :16:14.front pages every evening at 10:40pm right here on BBC News.