:00:13. > :00:15.Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be
:00:16. > :00:24.With me are business academic, Melanie Eusebe, and David Williams,
:00:25. > :00:28.Political Editor of Wales Online and The Western Mail.
:00:29. > :00:32.Good evening and thank you for being with us.
:00:33. > :00:34.The Daily Mail leads with a story on grammar schools.
:00:35. > :00:37.The front page article is dedicated to Theresa May's own
:00:38. > :00:46.The same story on the The Daily Telegraph front page, together
:00:47. > :00:48.with the iconic image of a naked girls running away from
:00:49. > :01:02.The image from 1972 and the current controversy with Facebook taking it
:01:03. > :01:11.It is one of the most iconic pictures in war photography.
:01:12. > :01:14.The newspaper calls Facebook an "anti-social network" even though
:01:15. > :01:17.the photo was reinstated after a global outcry.
:01:18. > :01:20.The Express writes about West Midlands police constable
:01:21. > :01:32.provoking anger after suggesting that officers could wear burkas.
:01:33. > :01:40.The Times reports that the trade secretary Liam Fox has made an
:01:41. > :01:46.attack on UK business leaders. He says the previous success has made
:01:47. > :01:49.them "Lazy and fat" according to the Times. They lead on the second
:01:50. > :01:57.accuser demanding to re-examine the sex abuse case involving Sir Cliff
:01:58. > :01:58.Richard. Spokesmen for the singer say a quote from cliff reaffirms his
:01:59. > :02:07.innocence. We will start with the Daily Mail
:02:08. > :02:11.and they have the story about the grammar schools which has dominated
:02:12. > :02:16.the stories for two or three days. This is particularly Theresa May's
:02:17. > :02:21.personal depth of grammar schools -- personal debt. She was educated for
:02:22. > :02:25.a while in a grammar school. The intent is to fix the apparent
:02:26. > :02:32.unfairness in the school system today. I love to measure it by the
:02:33. > :02:36.intent. However, there has been an outcry. This has been the most
:02:37. > :02:43.controversial outcry since she has come into Government.
:02:44. > :02:46.In a way, it has been her first big domestic policy pronouncement and it
:02:47. > :02:50.has been controversial. I know it has. If you are going to
:02:51. > :02:55.pick something which will inflame tensions in every direction, this is
:02:56. > :03:01.the perfect issue. The Government only has a majority of 12 and yet
:03:02. > :03:05.there is deep unease in the conservative ranks. Nicky Morgan is
:03:06. > :03:08.raising deep concerns... The former Education Secretary. She
:03:09. > :03:14.is quoted in one of the papers tomorrow saying it is we heard -- it
:03:15. > :03:19.is weird. That is quite a condemnation.
:03:20. > :03:23.That has probably done more to unify Labour ranks than anyone on the
:03:24. > :03:27.opposition benches in weeks. Well it's break a popular chord with
:03:28. > :03:31.the public and voters? There are few things lacking about
:03:32. > :03:35.it. It seems to have come out of left field. One of the claims people
:03:36. > :03:38.make is that, where is the mandate for this? It was not in the
:03:39. > :03:44.manifesto so where did it come from? Number two, where is the data? If we
:03:45. > :03:50.look at other countries, we do not necessarily know for certain at
:03:51. > :03:53.grammar schools, will aid fixed in equity and unfairness in our school
:03:54. > :03:59.system? Without that, it feels like it has come out of left field and I
:04:00. > :04:02.am not sure how it will be received by the general public.
:04:03. > :04:04.David, you enter a grammar school in Northern Ireland when there are a
:04:05. > :04:11.lot of grammar schools. Yes, it is a part of the system. I
:04:12. > :04:15.went to a grammar school there. I don't think I have done an exam
:04:16. > :04:18.since the age of 11 when I felt such terror. It was as if life would be
:04:19. > :04:21.determined by what would happen in the exam.
:04:22. > :04:27.Does it work in Northern Ireland, that system?
:04:28. > :04:31.The system used to be pretty much written in the 1950s and early
:04:32. > :04:40.1960s. It has been shaken up and everyone of my generation says it is
:04:41. > :04:44.a mess. There is a deep sense that it is neither fish nor fowl.
:04:45. > :04:52.You talked about the terror of doing the 11 plus, which I failed, so you
:04:53. > :04:59.have one on me there. The Mail asked out of interest, about the 11 plus,
:05:00. > :05:03.they have given 11 plus questions. Let us ask the viewers and you guys
:05:04. > :05:05.if you wish to take part. I will ask you one of the questions from the
:05:06. > :05:10.English section because we were doing this in the office and people
:05:11. > :05:15.were filling miserably. Question two, and I will come back at the
:05:16. > :05:19.very end of this paper review. If you watch at home, this is your
:05:20. > :05:26.question. Which of these four words is closest in meaning to Cingular?
:05:27. > :05:32.It is a multiple-choice answer. Which of these words is closest in
:05:33. > :05:40.meaning to Cingular? Is it a, strange? B, loud, C, quiet, D,
:05:41. > :05:45.lonely. Which of those words is closest in meaning to singular?
:05:46. > :05:48.Strange, loud, quiet or a lonely? That is your starter for ten and I
:05:49. > :05:56.will come back at the end for an answer. Embarrassing if you do not
:05:57. > :06:02.know. Let us get onto the Express, away from grammar schools. This is
:06:03. > :06:09.fury at police in burqas. The Express say that the West Midlands
:06:10. > :06:12.Chief Constable has been widely condemned by suggesting police
:06:13. > :06:18.officers could wear a burqas. Where do you stand?
:06:19. > :06:23.Let's be clear. All he said was that, I am not going to rule it out.
:06:24. > :06:26.Yes. That is all he said and there has
:06:27. > :06:31.not been an instance of a woman who has applied wearing a burqa. He is
:06:32. > :06:37.just saying, let us not rule it out right now. But the response is
:06:38. > :06:44.quite... Quite uniformly no in this article. They said they went to the
:06:45. > :06:49.Muslim Council of Britain and said it would be against female officers
:06:50. > :06:55.wearing full face burqas. Not necessarily just race or religion
:06:56. > :06:58.-based outcry by it, you know what? Women who are wearing burqas
:06:59. > :07:03.probably would not want to apply to the police in the first place. I
:07:04. > :07:08.agree with Mr Thomson. He said, in the instance that it may occur, let
:07:09. > :07:11.us not just say no. Let's talk about it.
:07:12. > :07:15.Let's think about it and deal with the issue when it comes up.
:07:16. > :07:20.The Police Federation spokesman said, any piece of uniform must be
:07:21. > :07:24.fit for purpose and not obstruct or hinder an officer in carrying out
:07:25. > :07:27.normal duties. Do you think the burqa would hinder a police officer
:07:28. > :07:33.from their duties? One example somebody raises in this
:07:34. > :07:38.interrogation situation is good to see a person's face? Unimaginable.
:07:39. > :07:46.In some ways, the Chief Constable is probable sitting right now thinking,
:07:47. > :07:50.what did I say? However, the force is apparently on a drive to recruit
:07:51. > :07:56.800 officers of which they went 30% to be from ethnic minorities. If you
:07:57. > :08:00.are looking to get a massive storm of publicity, it has been
:08:01. > :08:03.successful. You could imagine somebody applying
:08:04. > :08:07.to the police and saying, I would like to wear a burqa.
:08:08. > :08:12.Yes, exactly it is not inconceivable. If we go back to our
:08:13. > :08:22.recent history. In several countries, we used to have an outcry
:08:23. > :08:27.or protest around Sikh officers being allowed to wear turbans and be
:08:28. > :08:31.part of the force. What is needed in the capability of a police officer
:08:32. > :08:38.and police staff? If it means my face needs to be visible in regards
:08:39. > :08:43.to interrogation or temerity relations, let's talk about it.
:08:44. > :08:48.That should be the only criteria? Yes, what is the core capability?
:08:49. > :08:50.Will be burqa remind us from performing that job.
:08:51. > :08:55.You are just back from holiday on the continent, right? There is a
:08:56. > :09:02.story in the Guardian you might be interested in which is an end to
:09:03. > :09:11.these free travel in Europe, potentially, according to the
:09:12. > :09:15.Guardian. -- visa - free travel in Europe.
:09:16. > :09:21.Did not make much of it because I thought, is it news?
:09:22. > :09:26.It is in a newspaper, it must be! Surprise, surprise. That is
:09:27. > :09:30.happening everywhere else in the world. Being a joint Canadian and
:09:31. > :09:37.United Kingdom citizen, just because I am part of Canada, I know I can
:09:38. > :09:42.travel for free into the US. But as a UK citizen, I would have to get a
:09:43. > :09:47.Visa. It is a form of prescreening so that we know who is crossing
:09:48. > :09:50.borders. And it is happening everywhere else in the world, so it
:09:51. > :09:55.is a consequence of the vote we have taken that we are adhering to.
:09:56. > :09:59.Surprise, surprise. It is not a huge deal.
:10:00. > :10:03.The font does not need to be so big on that story.
:10:04. > :10:07.Not as big a story is the grammar school story which they relegated to
:10:08. > :10:13.second story. What do you make of the visa- free travel, an end that?
:10:14. > :10:19.Really waking up to the fact that Brexit is pulling at the string at
:10:20. > :10:29.the jumper of Europe. No one knows how this will unravel.
:10:30. > :10:35.A very good analogy. And the Telegraph, that is also on the whole
:10:36. > :10:41.Brexit theme. They have a story saying that Brussels believes it can
:10:42. > :10:44.make Britain beg. Britain says there Europe editor has become completely
:10:45. > :10:49.lost since the Brexit vote, according to European Commission
:10:50. > :10:53.officials. It can eventually be expected to plead for a deal when it
:10:54. > :10:59.realises the wickets of its position at the negotiating table. Is that a
:11:00. > :11:06.likely scenario? -- when it realises the weakness of its position.
:11:07. > :11:17.Again, I think it is more a surprise, surprise a story for me.
:11:18. > :11:21.We... It seems quite... In terms of making Britain beg... Again, going
:11:22. > :11:26.back to our story in regards to the visa required for travel, this is
:11:27. > :11:31.the... What did we think was going to happen? We are splitting apart
:11:32. > :11:39.from the rest of the EU. People want to move on, whether you voted yes or
:11:40. > :11:44.no Mac. -- whether you voted yes or no. I need to hear the context of
:11:45. > :11:48.the comments. What we do know is once article 50
:11:49. > :11:52.is triggered there are a two years of negotiations, whether that
:11:53. > :11:58.includes begging or making everybody beg...
:11:59. > :12:02.There is a narrative building of a European Commission which is trying
:12:03. > :12:08.to tell other countries, don't even think of negotiating with Britain a
:12:09. > :12:13.separate trades deal if you want one with us. It is like a Mafia jungle
:12:14. > :12:17.situation. They do not want other countries to
:12:18. > :12:21.do their own version of Brexit. It is in their interest to make it not
:12:22. > :12:30.too easy. They cannot make it too easy. But we
:12:31. > :12:36.do have to be careful in... Right now, no one has done anything and
:12:37. > :12:43.there is a lot of talk. I think there is a time when we have two is
:12:44. > :12:47.Dart talking and I understand everyone, particularly the EU is
:12:48. > :12:50.saying... Look, we have a vote, and even though you were not well
:12:51. > :12:54.prepared, these are the consequences. Let's keep it moving.
:12:55. > :12:59.We do not want the UK to be able to negotiate in advanced trade terms
:13:00. > :13:02.with other countries. Of course, because we are still united in a
:13:03. > :13:05.certain sense, it will impact the continent.
:13:06. > :13:11.OK... It is a tough situation.
:13:12. > :13:14.The Telegraph had this picture which is such an iconic picture from
:13:15. > :13:22.Vietnam. Many people will be familiar with this back from 1972
:13:23. > :13:26.and the napalm attack on a young girl, naked, running away from the
:13:27. > :13:35.napalm attack. The row is that Facebook banned it or wanted it
:13:36. > :13:38.pixilated. There was a protest against them and is now Facebook
:13:39. > :13:45.have backed down. What do you make of this? It is one of the most
:13:46. > :13:50.famous examples of Great War photography ever, is it not?
:13:51. > :13:53.Yes, this is the image photojournalists regard as one of
:13:54. > :13:59.the defining images where it turned popular opinion conclusively, in
:14:00. > :14:04.many areas. Against the war, it was turned. The idea that napalm was
:14:05. > :14:07.being dropped and had this effect on innocent people. It shipped foreign
:14:08. > :14:12.and domestic policy. Are Facebook showing their
:14:13. > :14:16.ignorance? They do not understand the difference between a picture
:14:17. > :14:21.like that and is a great historic importance and just a naked picture
:14:22. > :14:28.of a girl? 99% of the stories Facebook find
:14:29. > :14:32.themselves in fronting as when they shouted at for not taking things
:14:33. > :14:37.down. You can see why they would have a blanket policy that
:14:38. > :14:43.occasionally leads the situation -- to this type of situation. You can
:14:44. > :14:47.feel an element of sympathy. Do you feel like that?
:14:48. > :14:53.I think it is about how you monitor and legislate against intent. It is
:14:54. > :14:58.difficult, with the amount of users Facebook has on its platform, there
:14:59. > :15:04.has to be some sort of blanket protection against, you know, to
:15:05. > :15:10.protect vulnerable parts of our population, including children. I
:15:11. > :15:16.understand why, initially, there would be a ban. But once the Prime
:15:17. > :15:22.Minister of Norway says, wait a minute, what are you doing here?
:15:23. > :15:28.Then they backed down. And reasonably quickly.
:15:29. > :15:33.On the other hand, we do know that neither is Facebook or Twitter or
:15:34. > :15:35.other social media platforms... They could be taking more activity in
:15:36. > :15:41.terms of legislation and monitoring inappropriate content. At the end of
:15:42. > :15:45.the day, I think that with the technology, it is not sophisticated
:15:46. > :15:51.enough to measure what is in peoplepeople's heart.
:15:52. > :15:57.This image of photojournalism, right now, run the world lots of people
:15:58. > :16:01.are not official journalists but just civilians who happen to have
:16:02. > :16:05.camera phones. If they take the equivalent picture that is in front
:16:06. > :16:09.of them, how is that going to be adjudicated?
:16:10. > :16:14.A word about the Times. An interesting front putting Liam Fox,
:16:15. > :16:21.trade Secretary, caught in an off-guard moment according to the
:16:22. > :16:25.Times. Making an attack on British business leaders, saying they are
:16:26. > :16:28.too lazy and fat. Apparently...
:16:29. > :16:32.He will not make friends with that kind of comment.
:16:33. > :16:37.There is some suggestion that what is at play here is... There is a
:16:38. > :16:40.debate about post-Brexit Britain. Do we want to do everything we can to
:16:41. > :16:45.stay in the single market? We know how it works and it is cosy and
:16:46. > :16:52.safe. There will be plenty challenges but the rules of the game
:16:53. > :16:56.are understood. There are the First Ministers of parts of the UK
:16:57. > :16:59.including Wales saying, essential to stay in. Then there are the
:17:00. > :17:05.buccaneering 's free-market people who hate any idea of that and love
:17:06. > :17:10.the idea of Britain going it alone on the ocean waves. The perception
:17:11. > :17:13.is that, perhaps, Liam Fox is closer to that.
:17:14. > :17:15.And he says people need to stop thinking about exporting as an
:17:16. > :17:24.opportunity and start thinking that it is a duty. That is the thought of
:17:25. > :17:29.Liam Fox. Let's take you back to the 11-Plus quiz, which I know our
:17:30. > :17:33.viewers have all done very well with our little quiz. One question. Which
:17:34. > :17:40.of these words is closest in meaning to singular? Strange, loud, quite a
:17:41. > :17:46.lonely? I was hoping you had forgot.
:17:47. > :17:54.As a man who... I said lonely.
:17:55. > :17:59.You said lonely? OK. I am leaning in the same direction.
:18:00. > :18:04.OK, you think lonely as well. OK. The answer, I'm afraid, because you
:18:05. > :18:11.passed your 11-Plus but would have filled this one, it is strange.
:18:12. > :18:16.Strange is the word that is closest in meaning to singular. A single
:18:17. > :18:20.man, a single woman... That is difficult. A singular
:18:21. > :18:28.instance would be... A tricky one at age 11. You both
:18:29. > :18:30.failed but you passed the discussion on The Papers.
:18:31. > :18:35.Don't forget all the front pages are online on the BBC News website
:18:36. > :18:37.where you can read a detailed review of the papers.
:18:38. > :18:40.It's all there for you - 7 days a week at bbc.co.uk/papers -
:18:41. > :18:45.with each night's edition of The Papers being posted
:18:46. > :18:46.on the page shortly after we've finished.
:18:47. > :18:49.Thank you, Melanie Eusebe and David Williams.