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:00:00. > :00:14.Now on BBC News here's Luquessa with The Papers.

:00:15. > :00:18.Hello and welcome to our Sunday morning edition of The Papers.

:00:19. > :00:22.With me are Matt Chorley, Editor of the Times Red Box

:00:23. > :00:28.and Prashant Rao, Deputy Business Editor

:00:29. > :00:42.The Observer leads with a warning about the health of the NHS -

:00:43. > :00:44.top bosses saying it's on the brink of collapse.

:00:45. > :00:45.Meanwhile, British traditions are under threat

:00:46. > :00:55.A government review will point the finger at growing ethnic

:00:56. > :01:00.Own your own home for 900 pounds because of the Help to Buy scheme,

:01:01. > :01:02.that's the main headline on the Sunday Express.

:01:03. > :01:08.The Mail on Sunday carries an exclusive interview with the wife

:01:09. > :01:12.of the Labour MP Keith Vaz who has said that she will forgive him after

:01:13. > :01:16.claims he paid for the services of two male escorts.

:01:17. > :01:19.Plans for new grammar schools are being drawn up by councils

:01:20. > :01:21.following yesterday's announcement by the Prime Minister,

:01:22. > :01:24.that's the front page of the Sunday Times.

:01:25. > :01:27.While the Independent dedicates its front page

:01:28. > :01:30.to the US-Russia deal on Syria, the ceasefire is due to come

:01:31. > :01:52.Good morning to you both. Where are we starting? The papers are full of

:01:53. > :01:57.grammar schools after the Prime Minister's speech on Sunday. The

:01:58. > :02:05.Sunday Times splashes on the idea that councils are going to -- to

:02:06. > :02:09.open grammar schools in Kent, Essex, Maidenhead, Northamptonshire, faces

:02:10. > :02:15.that have already got some selection. They are the ones who are

:02:16. > :02:27.rushing to open them. I think what is interesting is the people... You

:02:28. > :02:31.think it is good? I think it feels more like something that she is

:02:32. > :02:35.doing to draw a line under why she is a different Prime Minister to

:02:36. > :02:39.David Cameron. David Cameron had a big row in the Tory party in 2007

:02:40. > :02:43.where he said under him, he was not going to go back to the days of

:02:44. > :02:47.grammar schools. This seems like a bit of red meat for the traditional

:02:48. > :02:51.Tory right, it is very popular with the people it is popular with. It

:02:52. > :02:59.could prove to be unpopular they are with the people who do not like it.

:03:00. > :03:01.The Observer says that private schools are predicted that they will

:03:02. > :03:08.get the boost from this because middle-class parents who miss out on

:03:09. > :03:12.grammar schools will rush to send their children to private school.

:03:13. > :03:18.Sticking with the front of the times, you have had a different

:03:19. > :03:23.schooling education, what do you think about this in Britain? Do you

:03:24. > :03:27.think it will work these days? It is hard to tell, because the evidence

:03:28. > :03:31.certainly seems to suggest that the success of grammar schools is mixed

:03:32. > :03:34.depending on what your goals are. If your goals are to get poor children

:03:35. > :03:39.into grammar schools, the evidence does not seem to, it is quite

:03:40. > :03:43.unclear on whether it is successful. The Green paper comes out tomorrow

:03:44. > :03:47.with Justine Greening the Education Secretary which seems they will try

:03:48. > :03:50.to combat that perception because the Sunday Times says that it is

:03:51. > :03:54.going to be talking about, Private schools will have two sponsored

:03:55. > :04:01.state schools, they will lose their tax breaks. As you say, it is really

:04:02. > :04:07.trying to paint this as an issue that Theresa May is good. Whether it

:04:08. > :04:11.is good for Britain is a hard thing to tell because it is a complicated

:04:12. > :04:18.proposal. It seems like a political proposal. The problem is, the

:04:19. > :04:24.evidence seems to show, I interviewed someone yesterday he

:04:25. > :04:29.said that the kid to get into the grammar schools it helps, but it

:04:30. > :04:32.does not help social mobility all over, because if you pick winners,

:04:33. > :04:39.there will have to be losers. Theresa May said she wanted every

:04:40. > :04:42.child to have the education she had, but you cannot have everyone at a

:04:43. > :04:51.grammar school, because then they are just, handsets. --

:04:52. > :04:54.comprehensives. We have had so many stories saying that not getting into

:04:55. > :04:59.grammar school destroyed them, a sense of failure at the city and

:05:00. > :05:03.age. There is problem of 16 by anecdotes, people who went to a

:05:04. > :05:07.grammar school saying, it lifted the out of cardboard box. But you have

:05:08. > :05:15.got to get there. But the other people who did not go and they say

:05:16. > :05:19.it held them back. It feels like a very old debate. It felt like we had

:05:20. > :05:25.moved on from that. We thought the Tory party had moved on as well.

:05:26. > :05:30.People are saying the cost as well, getting your kids through... The

:05:31. > :05:35.tutoring. It is ?60 million that could have gone to improve all

:05:36. > :05:40.schools. The Telegraph has it on their front page, it is split in the

:05:41. > :05:45.Cabinet as well. Leave aside across parties, within the Conservative

:05:46. > :05:51.Party this divisive proposal. Let's move on to the Mail on Sunday. The

:05:52. > :05:56.story that shocked them in a people last weekend has moved on, we are

:05:57. > :06:03.hearing from the wife of Keith Vaz, saying that she forgets her

:06:04. > :06:08.husband's betrayal. Laughter macro pick this up!

:06:09. > :06:13.There has been some reporting about what might have been known or not

:06:14. > :06:15.known in other papers, we were discussing it earlier, as

:06:16. > :06:23.journalists, we get involved in political theatre, he is the chair

:06:24. > :06:27.of the common committee, but it is very personal. This is something

:06:28. > :06:31.that his wife is going through, I cannot imagine how difficult it must

:06:32. > :06:36.be. How she goes through it and what she says is fascinating. It is

:06:37. > :06:39.interesting because there is a very detailed account of the interview of

:06:40. > :06:43.the moment he returned home last Friday night and sat her down. He

:06:44. > :06:52.actually returned early extract normally he is always late home. We

:06:53. > :06:56.will not mention why expect she took about interlocking his hands on his

:06:57. > :07:03.lap, pausing and then detonating his bombshell. She said, I would like to

:07:04. > :07:07.have taken all of my crockery and broken it on his head, but she has

:07:08. > :07:13.taken it back, they are sharing their marital bed. I think it is

:07:14. > :07:20.very interesting. Maybe because we were talking before, it is the sort

:07:21. > :07:24.of in the interview you would have gotten a few weeks, but it is very

:07:25. > :07:28.recent and very raw. I thought that, it is a very quick response. And the

:07:29. > :07:33.personal details about the marital bed, I thought, it is only a week

:07:34. > :07:40.gone. She is an extremely intelligent woman, a judge, very

:07:41. > :07:44.successful lawyer, said in her own right, and in credible woman. Do you

:07:45. > :07:48.think this was too soon to come out with something like this? It is hard

:07:49. > :07:51.to tell what is to seem because it is their family and how they go

:07:52. > :07:58.through it. It is certainly feeling very fresh, the story broke a week

:07:59. > :08:01.ago, and I can't imagine that in a week that all of this could have

:08:02. > :08:07.happened. She has already already said that she had to sit down with

:08:08. > :08:16.her kids, she had to say my daughter was devastated, I did not want to

:08:17. > :08:20.break down, I did. What my child to -- I did not want my child to prop

:08:21. > :08:29.me up. To go through all of this in a week is very terrible. What I do

:08:30. > :08:35.about this story in the Sun? Brexit means Brexit, this group called

:08:36. > :08:46.change Britain is being launched, as a vote Leave, campaign, so this

:08:47. > :08:52.piece is the co-chairman who is going to be involved in Change

:08:53. > :08:55.Britain. Breast Johnson just gets a little bit, he says that Brexit --

:08:56. > :09:08.Boris Johnson. He is asking people to say what they

:09:09. > :09:15.think Brexit means. He is asking people to sign up? To sign up to

:09:16. > :09:19.Change Britain. There is a campaign, Britain stronger in Europe has

:09:20. > :09:22.become open Britain, and voted league has become Change Britain.

:09:23. > :09:26.They had a lot of people sign up as members of those campaigns, so this

:09:27. > :09:30.is a feeling that it will be a long-term debate and how that debate

:09:31. > :09:36.is shaped, those campaign groups, they are doing the job of the Labour

:09:37. > :09:42.Party which is non-existent at the moment. This week we have had Boris

:09:43. > :09:47.Johnson putting down a marker, he expect a hard Brexit, Liam Fox the

:09:48. > :09:52.story, his medications today, the comments calling at each business is

:09:53. > :09:56.fat and lazy and they want to play golf, he has been slapped down by

:09:57. > :10:01.Downing Street. David Davies saying it is improbable that we would stay

:10:02. > :10:07.in the single market, he has been slapped down by Downing Street. They

:10:08. > :10:10.want to say Brexit means Brexit and we do not want to talk about

:10:11. > :10:17.anything else, but the big beast in Cabinet want to make noise. This is

:10:18. > :10:21.needs to come out soon. This is campaign by slogan, Brexit means

:10:22. > :10:29.Brexit, there is no running commentary. They have a lot of these

:10:30. > :10:33.details but a lot of this still can be shaped. The Brexit means Brexit

:10:34. > :10:37.thing essentially means that we do not know what it means so we can

:10:38. > :10:41.shape it. So you have got Change Britain which becomes like a

:10:42. > :10:45.campaign. They have their own manifesto, the Observer has a story

:10:46. > :10:50.about how the ?350 million pledge is nowhere to be found in the Change

:10:51. > :10:54.Britain manifesto. It is a debate which has not been won or lost. It

:10:55. > :11:04.is going to be going on for a few years. Oh, dear X Mac lets -- oh

:11:05. > :11:10.dear! The front of the Telegraph, elliptical correctness. -- political

:11:11. > :11:16.correctness. A threat to Christmas, it makes you think, here we go

:11:17. > :11:20.again! They have got early thinking from a government report which has

:11:21. > :11:27.been done by the government's integration czar, and it picks out

:11:28. > :11:31.this story about a community centre which put up a festive tree because

:11:32. > :11:34.they did not want to call it a Christmas tree cos it might offend

:11:35. > :11:41.Asian and the slim star. They said as it was -- and Muslim staff. They

:11:42. > :11:45.said it was a well-meaning white manager who did not want to offend

:11:46. > :11:49.anyone. I think focusing on that covers up a more interesting and

:11:50. > :11:58.more important issue. We have seen it in the past with tales of child

:11:59. > :12:04.abuse in rather, where people in positions of authority -- in rubber

:12:05. > :12:11.-- they do not speak out because they do not want to offend. The quiz

:12:12. > :12:14.treating does not matter. Unless you put up a sign saying, this is a

:12:15. > :12:19.festive tree, not a Christmas tree, no one knows. The headline is silly

:12:20. > :12:25.but the content of the story is more serious. It is picked up in the

:12:26. > :12:28.Sunday Times as well, they have an interview with someone who was a

:12:29. > :12:32.counterterrorism officer in the Met Police who talks about how racism in

:12:33. > :12:36.the Met Police is not a problem from white officers, it comes from Muslim

:12:37. > :12:44.officers who can be quite hard line on things like... Sharia law, and...

:12:45. > :12:47.Domestic violence. She said that people do not call that out because

:12:48. > :12:54.they are worried about being called racist. Underlying the silly

:12:55. > :12:58.headline is more interesting. That is where the rubber hits the road.

:12:59. > :13:03.What this means, political correctness. The Sunday Times story

:13:04. > :13:07.is interesting because it says, what happens when political correctness

:13:08. > :13:13.comes to something we have to care about, national security? She has

:13:14. > :13:18.offices that say Pakistani problems could be solved by the Caliban, she

:13:19. > :13:21.complained and said if a white officer said something similar, they

:13:22. > :13:28.would be fired. This is where it comes out. Sometimes differences are

:13:29. > :13:34.there to be shouted about. She says one of the reasons she resigned is

:13:35. > :13:36.because, if you have got a senior Muslim officer in the

:13:37. > :13:45.counterterrorism police, we want diversity. Pick up on page eight and

:13:46. > :13:49.nine, double page spread in the Observer. We are talking about new

:13:50. > :13:55.political tribes. Do we have room for more? Certainly, this is not

:13:56. > :14:01.great reading if you are a supporter of the Labour Party. The numbers

:14:02. > :14:09.speak for themselves in terms of where the country is heading, 77% of

:14:10. > :14:16.voters say they are centre left of centre-right, and only 20% say the

:14:17. > :14:22.Labour leader occupies that territory, and those people say he

:14:23. > :14:25.is left wing. But elections are not one within a party, they are one

:14:26. > :14:30.nation wide. This is interesting data in terms of how the Labour

:14:31. > :14:35.leadership election will be shaped. It is 24 September, the results? I

:14:36. > :14:40.think we all know that he's going to win, but no one knows what is going

:14:41. > :14:43.to happen afterwards. This sort of polling will make for some grim

:14:44. > :14:49.reading for the Labour Party. What it shows is how out of tune with the

:14:50. > :14:59.country Jeremy Corbyn is. All elections are won by being in the...

:15:00. > :15:02.It is an a great rock in the centre, they just go about their business

:15:03. > :15:06.most people, they just worry at the election. They say, even if we win,

:15:07. > :15:14.they have the same problems, they have not moved on. Let's go back to

:15:15. > :15:19.page 15 of the Telegraph. We have got about 40 seconds, what do you

:15:20. > :15:27.say? It's was a bit of digging around to find anything on the

:15:28. > :15:31.Paralympics. There is a bit here, deep in the sports section, it is

:15:32. > :15:35.surprising, it was everywhere in London 2012. We are doing well and

:15:36. > :15:39.breaking records but it does not seem to have got onto the front

:15:40. > :15:43.pages. You have to ferret around to find it. We thought it was a bit

:15:44. > :15:46.disappointing. It has become a novelty story. It was quite

:15:47. > :15:50.disappointing because in London 2012, the Paralympics were covered

:15:51. > :15:57.in fantastic detail. There were covered as they should be as a

:15:58. > :16:00.sporting event. Now they seem to be just a collection of 1-page stories

:16:01. > :16:03.here and there rather than the bank it covered you would expect. Need to

:16:04. > :16:08.make more of an effort. There are fantastic stories coming out. Thank

:16:09. > :16:14.you very much. That is it for us, thank you to our

:16:15. > :16:17.guests. We will be taking a look at tomorrow's front pages every evening

:16:18. > :16:19.at 10:40pm here on BBC News.