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:00:17. > :00:19.Hello and welcome to our Sunday morning edition of The Papers.
:00:20. > :00:21.With me are journalist and broadcaster Alice Arnold
:00:22. > :00:26.and political commentator James Millar.
:00:27. > :00:30.The Treasury has given millions of pounds intended for war veterans
:00:31. > :00:32.to some unknown charities, claims the Sunday Times.
:00:33. > :00:34.The Independent leads with reports that fish intended for human
:00:35. > :00:42.consumption in Africa are being used as animal feed.
:00:43. > :00:45.The Daily Mail reports on a Syrian migrant using a fake passport
:00:46. > :00:51.to reach the UK on a Ryanair flight.
:00:52. > :00:54.Three servicemen face prosecution for the death over the death
:00:55. > :00:57.of an Iraqi teenager 13 years ago - that's on the Telegraph's
:00:58. > :01:00.Princess Eugenie seeks the Queen's approval for her upcoming marriage,
:01:01. > :01:18.Let's begin. The Observer, Jeremy Corbyn to give party members, to
:01:19. > :01:27.choose shadow team and policy. He plans next stage in party revamp set
:01:28. > :01:34.to prompt MP backlash. This is presuming, as most people think, he
:01:35. > :01:39.will when the election. And the first is getting the party members
:01:40. > :01:43.and not the MPs, far more control. In fact, he wants to broaden
:01:44. > :01:52.democracy, this is how he is putting it. So the members would elect one
:01:53. > :01:57.third of the Shadow cabinets and he talked about digital consultations
:01:58. > :02:02.so I do not know if that means poor policy and people put ideas out and
:02:03. > :02:12.we all thought -- if that means for policy. Critic -- putting it on
:02:13. > :02:17.Twitter. That does not always work. It deep into you ask. You could have
:02:18. > :02:22.democracy by saying MPs are elected by people or you can say people who
:02:23. > :02:28.choose to join our party should have a bigger say because they are party
:02:29. > :02:34.members. It is a self-selecting group. You will have the time to
:02:35. > :02:40.decide whether they think his policy is good or bad, whereas people who
:02:41. > :02:44.are more willing to get involved instead of just the people who vote
:02:45. > :02:49.every five years, which are the people he has to win over with these
:02:50. > :02:54.policies. Everyone thinks he will one next week but the question is
:02:55. > :02:58.what is next? How do you put this thing back together that is so
:02:59. > :03:03.fractured over the summer. To look at it one way, any party that split
:03:04. > :03:09.in Britain is doomed because of our electoral system for first past the
:03:10. > :03:13.post. Therefore there are reasons to stick together but reasons in bad
:03:14. > :03:19.manages to stay together but it may not make for a happier life. -- bad
:03:20. > :03:25.marriages. This is why he is moving to this different sort of democracy,
:03:26. > :03:29.it is delegates rather than representatives and our party system
:03:30. > :03:35.we have always bent with people representing us, we vote for them
:03:36. > :03:43.and they fought on their own accord. I think the only way Gerry McCann
:03:44. > :03:47.controlled power is to say to the members -- the only way for Jeremy
:03:48. > :03:53.Corbyn to control the party is to put this out to the party members.
:03:54. > :03:58.It is all about mandates because you will have this mandate if the party
:03:59. > :04:02.gets to elect some of the Shadow Cabinet members they will have a
:04:03. > :04:08.mandate. He is worried some of his MPs will go back in the Shadow
:04:09. > :04:13.Cabinet and worry about the # They will control the cabinet and
:04:14. > :04:19.they will not have to do what he does.
:04:20. > :04:25.Let's move on to the Telegraph. Tory MPs set up new group to push for
:04:26. > :04:32.Brexit. They are pushing for a hard Brexit. This is presumably to haul
:04:33. > :04:38.police are made to account over pushing hard for this. -- holder
:04:39. > :04:45.Theresa May. There are only six MPs and this group and they are the
:04:46. > :04:49.group that wants to push Brexit faster, they want her visa made to
:04:50. > :04:53.get on with it. There is some frustration in the party that
:04:54. > :04:58.nothing is happening and she's been very secretive about what the deals
:04:59. > :05:03.may be but this is a group who was out of the single market, they do
:05:04. > :05:11.not want movement of people, they are called is hard Brexit. Hard
:05:12. > :05:16.Brexit and soft Brexit, new terms are we better get used to. No one
:05:17. > :05:23.knew what they voted for when they voted for Brexit. Work that hard or
:05:24. > :05:28.soft? This is the trouble with referendums,. When Theresa May said
:05:29. > :05:33.Brexit means Brexit it sounds nonsense but it is kind of crew --
:05:34. > :05:38.threw in that that is all people voted for but now various people are
:05:39. > :05:41.trying to cast that in whatever light they want so these guys are
:05:42. > :05:46.saying it's means leaving the single market and low freedom of movement
:05:47. > :05:51.but not one actually specifically voted for that. James, because abuse
:05:52. > :05:56.of his background is I want to ask you, have the Scottish referendum
:05:57. > :06:01.when the other way there would be complicated process of separation
:06:02. > :06:05.and do you think that seeing how complicated Brexit is actually makes
:06:06. > :06:11.people think may be staying within the UK is a good idea because we
:06:12. > :06:14.will be in a mess that we don't. There is an argument that will
:06:15. > :06:20.happen and Brexit will be so messy the second referendum that will
:06:21. > :06:24.almost certainly happen, when is anybody's guess, it could play into
:06:25. > :06:31.the argument around that looking at that was a mess and badly affected
:06:32. > :06:37.economy, we do not know the effect on the economy of Brexit yet, but it
:06:38. > :06:41.could go badly so it would be easy for the No campaign in the Scottish
:06:42. > :06:47.referendum to point that and see you do not want to go through that.
:06:48. > :06:55.Project Via all over again. The Sunday Times has some interesting
:06:56. > :06:58.stories. Treasury give away in without checking. Charities have
:06:59. > :07:03.come under a lot more stringently in the past few years --, under more
:07:04. > :07:14.scrutiny. This reminds me of the kid gay
:07:15. > :07:25.thing. This was from the libor -- Kent Gates. -- kid gate thing. It
:07:26. > :07:34.seems that money has been given out to some dodgy charities, charities
:07:35. > :07:38.using unproven techniques and one of them is called Warriors and uses
:07:39. > :07:43.linguistic programming and sat and things but there is no proof any of
:07:44. > :07:51.this has any effect. A lot of that money seems to have fallen into
:07:52. > :07:55.masqueraded hands. The problem is a much wider problem which is if you
:07:56. > :07:59.think you are giving money and it is not going to the people you think
:08:00. > :08:03.what it has gone into administration or whatever, you might stop
:08:04. > :08:08.altogether and become blind to the great work most charities do. That
:08:09. > :08:14.is a lot of the problem. I do not think these are necessarily bad but
:08:15. > :08:18.most of them are not bad people bad charities, they are well meaning who
:08:19. > :08:23.want to do something for vitamins but the trouble is it is not that
:08:24. > :08:27.straightforward running a charity -- for veterans. You have to show where
:08:28. > :08:30.the money is going and you are actually doing something and so
:08:31. > :08:38.they're the ones that have a good name ten to get tarnished and
:08:39. > :08:41.everybody what is if these people are good guys or are the just
:08:42. > :08:47.chancers. I was struck by this story on the
:08:48. > :08:52.left, cancer treatment stopped to pay for HIV dog. The big picture is
:08:53. > :09:03.obviously the NHS about choices -- HIV drug. Actually choices have to
:09:04. > :09:08.be made. This is awful because there are three individuals here who have
:09:09. > :09:13.gone through, I know a small bit about this, and one of them has
:09:14. > :09:19.befallen blood cancer and in order to have a stem cell transplant you
:09:20. > :09:21.have to go through extreme chemotherapy and art made extremely
:09:22. > :09:27.sick just before the stem cell transplant. These people have gone
:09:28. > :09:35.that far and now told they cannot get the transplants. That, those are
:09:36. > :09:41.awful of course, the bigger picture is the NHS is always balancing, it
:09:42. > :09:44.is not a bottomless pit and the old happy balance one treatment for
:09:45. > :09:49.another and what seems to have happened here is these people have
:09:50. > :09:54.gone a long way down the road for the treatment and will now not get
:09:55. > :10:02.it. I do not think that could be right. It is a horrible story, the
:10:03. > :10:08.idea of setting up one treatment for another. It is always about choices.
:10:09. > :10:18.It is a fairly unpleasant way of doing things. I was interested in
:10:19. > :10:21.the fact it goes in on a senior NHS consultant, gynaecologist and a
:10:22. > :10:25.mother of three. These people are somehow OK and should get treatment
:10:26. > :10:30.because they are doing middle-class things are producing children. You
:10:31. > :10:36.wonder if the Sunday Times would have put it on the front if it was
:10:37. > :10:40.sunny and bad people, according to news legend, unemployed people,
:10:41. > :10:47.scroungers, as they sometimes put it, would it still be on the front
:10:48. > :10:58.page? And also the fact it is the HIV drug, a controversial drug.
:10:59. > :11:08.Shocking security lapses on Ryanair. What do you make of this? I don't
:11:09. > :11:14.know if he could have been aged happy. He came from Syria to Greece
:11:15. > :11:22.so I estimate some check was carried out when he got to Greece. But it is
:11:23. > :11:25.really amazing he got on a bus to Athens and got onto the Ryanair
:11:26. > :11:30.flight and served up in Stansted on somebody else's passport. The art
:11:31. > :11:40.airport security certainly have questions to answer. Us Athens
:11:41. > :11:43.airport security cell we are trying to blame the British security here
:11:44. > :11:49.but it has nothing to do with that, it is to do with the Greek one. When
:11:50. > :11:55.he got to Stansted he did not get any further sort that was some
:11:56. > :12:00.security and border control there. I think pretty much anybody I know the
:12:01. > :12:04.travel through petition airport for their summer holidays with
:12:05. > :12:09.recognised that you are stopped and checked and sometimes it takes a
:12:10. > :12:14.long time. One of the nice things was the border force work that most
:12:15. > :12:21.of them. They said, how are you? Are you OK, are you hungry? You have
:12:22. > :12:28.come from this terrible place. He has had a dreadful life in Syria and
:12:29. > :12:35.saw his brother being bull-headed -- brother being beheaded and he says
:12:36. > :12:40.everyone has been very kind since he arrived. Now he is on the front page
:12:41. > :12:45.of the Mail, things might change. I was struck on the comment page of
:12:46. > :12:50.the Observer talking about the Russian hacking of the US election
:12:51. > :12:57.is the most extreme case of how the internet is changing our politics.
:12:58. > :13:03.She is not driving while texting, I should just point out! What do you
:13:04. > :13:08.make of this? Because the internet has changed our politics, Donald
:13:09. > :13:13.Trump is on Twitter all the time, it seems. It is a really good Sunday
:13:14. > :13:22.newspaper abuse, it is what Sunday newspapers are for. -- a really good
:13:23. > :13:30.Sunday newspaper piece. It is intriguing culprit seems to, to a
:13:31. > :13:33.point -- how it comes to a point around this US election because
:13:34. > :13:39.Donald Trump bid on Twitter all the time and a lot of rumours around
:13:40. > :13:44.Hillary Clinton catching on on Facebook and Twitter, the idea she
:13:45. > :13:52.had a body double. It is insane but it is catching on and that, the
:13:53. > :13:55.internet, is where these things get started and spread. That is true
:13:56. > :14:12.because we tend to follow people we agree with. Who is a comedian who
:14:13. > :14:15.coined the expression Marieke Vervoort truthness which is
:14:16. > :14:23.something that is not true but feels true. -- the expression truthness.
:14:24. > :14:27.On the bigger picture, we think we are talking about where people know
:14:28. > :14:31.their band of exposure to view that are not what they agree with so we
:14:32. > :14:40.follow people on Facebook and Twitter and read things that we
:14:41. > :14:44.generally agree with and therefore our world is getting smaller and
:14:45. > :14:48.smaller, not necessarily based on truth, just based on people throwing
:14:49. > :14:54.up things and going, we think this, we think that and because we follow
:14:55. > :14:59.them we agree and fact is falling by the wayside. Where does that leave
:15:00. > :15:03.the mainstream media trying to do the fact checking? The Washington
:15:04. > :15:16.Post has this binocular index that gives for Pinocchios -- penalty. But
:15:17. > :15:21.does anybody care? Yes, some people do. The other thing to bear in mind
:15:22. > :15:27.is although the internet is fundamental it is not as big as we
:15:28. > :15:32.think it is, perhaps. I think the EU referendum showed that that there
:15:33. > :15:37.are a lot of people in metropolitan areas treating each other but most
:15:38. > :15:42.people in large areas of the country are going out to work coming home
:15:43. > :15:49.and watching TV. It is trying to find that balance which is the key.
:15:50. > :15:53.That is it for the papers. Our thanks to our guests. We take a look
:15:54. > :16:12.at tomorrow's front pages every evening at 10:40pm here on BBC News.
:16:13. > :16:13.We are moving into if spell of pretty benign autumn