21/09/2016

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:00:15. > :00:17.Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be

:00:18. > :00:20.With me are Jack Blanchard, deputy political editor

:00:21. > :00:23.of The Mirror and Hugh Muir, columnist for The Guardian.

:00:24. > :00:27.Let's have a look at tomorrow's front pages.

:00:28. > :00:29.The Telegraph reports that British troops who served in Afghanistan

:00:30. > :00:32.could face criminal investigation over alleged abuse in the war

:00:33. > :00:36.after an inquiry was set up by the Ministry of Defence.

:00:37. > :00:40.The Mirror splashes on allegations that thousands of breast cancer

:00:41. > :00:43.patients are being denied a crucial pill which costs 34p

:00:44. > :00:49.The Times says MI6 is on a recruitment drive,

:00:50. > :00:53.hiring hundreds more spies to fight global terrorism and exploit

:00:54. > :00:59.The Guardian leads on the economy, saying that gloomy pre-referendum

:01:00. > :01:01.predictions have been confounded by the initial post

:01:02. > :01:07.The Express also reports on recent economic figures,

:01:08. > :01:12.saying "Britain is thriving" after the vote to leave the EU.

:01:13. > :01:15.The FT highlights divisions within the US Federal Reserve over

:01:16. > :01:21.The Metro carries the the headline "King Con" on a story

:01:22. > :01:23.about a fraudster who is believed to have taken

:01:24. > :01:27.more than ?100 million from 750 firms.

:01:28. > :01:30.And The Sun continues its coverage of the break-up of Angelina Jolie

:01:31. > :01:45.Continues its coverage! That is going to go on for some time. The

:01:46. > :01:50.Telegraph, Jack, Afghanistan veterans facing investigation into

:01:51. > :01:55.Taliban claims and a lot of controversy over potential

:01:56. > :02:00.prosecutions and the suggestion that former Iraq soldiers are being

:02:01. > :02:05.treated unfairly as regards lawsuits and so forth. Afghanistan, too?

:02:06. > :02:08.Apparently so. We have known for some time that the soldiers involved

:02:09. > :02:11.in Iraq have faced investigation, the Iraq historic litigation steam

:02:12. > :02:16.has been subject of a lot of controversy the quite the years. --

:02:17. > :02:19.historic allegations team. The Telegraph says the Ministry of

:02:20. > :02:24.Defence has set up a June in quarry into even older cases, some cases

:02:25. > :02:28.even older, allegations against troops in Afghanistan. It is big

:02:29. > :02:31.numbers, they are saying more than 550 allegations of war crimes in

:02:32. > :02:37.Afghanistan are being investigated by the MOD, taking the total to 2200

:02:38. > :02:40.cases across the two complex. It is a big deal involving a lot of people

:02:41. > :02:44.with millions of pounds in investigations and people are

:02:45. > :02:47.getting very upset. Some of the right-wing newspapers have been

:02:48. > :02:51.campaigning against this for years. Tory MPs are quoted and former army

:02:52. > :02:57.colonels who are upset that the scale of this is going on. But Hugh,

:02:58. > :03:00.one can't ignore serious allegations, can one, about the

:03:01. > :03:05.Armed Forces if there are allegations that they may have been

:03:06. > :03:09.involved in activity that is less than suitable? Of course not, so it

:03:10. > :03:14.is about striking the balance, isn't it? We woke up to Theresa May saying

:03:15. > :03:18.she won't stand by while spurious claims are made against soldiers and

:03:19. > :03:23.I think everyone agrees that you have to protect the soldiers because

:03:24. > :03:28.we send people into harm's way. But at the same time, there is a

:03:29. > :03:32.balance. You can't absolve them of responsibility if there is

:03:33. > :03:37.behaviour, if they behave in a way they oughtn't. I think what

:03:38. > :03:42.surprises one about this row and the number of cases is that there does

:03:43. > :03:48.not seem to be a filtering system that everyone can be confident

:03:49. > :03:52.about. If these were normal criminal cases then obviously, the police

:03:53. > :03:58.investigate, they go to the CPS and they would decide whether or not

:03:59. > :04:00.there is a valid case or whether it is spurious and that they would not

:04:01. > :04:04.let it go forward. There does not seem, from what they are saying, to

:04:05. > :04:09.be a parallel structure for these cases and so you then get into the

:04:10. > :04:12.situation where cases that reasonable people might say should

:04:13. > :04:19.not go forward seem to be going ahead. OK, the corollary of this is

:04:20. > :04:23.the story on the front of the Daily Mail, 200 soldiers going to war with

:04:24. > :04:29.MOD, hounded heroes plan to take top brass to court, soldiers handed over

:04:30. > :04:33.incidents in the Iraq war threatening to take the MOD to

:04:34. > :04:37.court. This is a very similar story but this is the soldiers fighting

:04:38. > :04:40.back, if you like. They are grouping together and they have got their own

:04:41. > :04:45.law firm and they are threatening to take the MOD to court for what they

:04:46. > :04:49.say is harassment. I guess every individual case is going to be

:04:50. > :04:53.different but if an allegation is made, presumably the MOD feel they

:04:54. > :04:55.have to make some kind of basic investigation, which might be no

:04:56. > :05:00.more than speaking to the soldier involved and it might not go any

:05:01. > :05:03.further. We talk about large numbers of investigations but we don't know

:05:04. > :05:07.how specific each one is and how detailed it is and how much risk

:05:08. > :05:11.there ever was of that person being prosecuted. But the 200 soldiers

:05:12. > :05:15.going to war with the MOD, presumably they believe they have

:05:16. > :05:20.been produced or hounded or whatever, in a way that does not

:05:21. > :05:23.want it? Again, you have to worry if they feel they have no option but

:05:24. > :05:27.for them to go to the law as well. It seems that the way things are

:05:28. > :05:36.panning out, the only people benefiting from this are the lawyers

:05:37. > :05:39.who can take on a lot of cases. You wonder if maybe MPs should not look

:05:40. > :05:44.at the structures involved here as to whether or not there is a way to

:05:45. > :05:48.look at some of these cases, as I say, to sift out the spurious ones

:05:49. > :05:54.but also to have some kind of protections for soldiers to ensure

:05:55. > :05:58.they are not subject to dubious claims. Has the armed services

:05:59. > :06:02.committee heard anything on this? It has been discussed in Parliament

:06:03. > :06:06.endlessly for the last few years. It is a very big issue and some MPs

:06:07. > :06:09.feel incredibly vexed about it. You can understand why. But I think at

:06:10. > :06:13.the same time, we should be proud that we live in a country where we

:06:14. > :06:17.do scrutinise these things. And there is the rule of law. And we

:06:18. > :06:20.take it seriously because it does not happen in plenty of countries

:06:21. > :06:25.and I don't think we should push back so far that we turn a blind eye

:06:26. > :06:29.to things that happen in any conflict. Let's go to your paper

:06:30. > :06:34.comes you, UK economy defies gloom after EU shock, it is just one day

:06:35. > :06:38.of good news after another following the Brexit Road, at least following

:06:39. > :06:42.the decision to leave the Union, Brexit actually has not happened

:06:43. > :06:45.yet. You have hit the nail on the head because they are all looking

:06:46. > :06:50.for signs as to whether the vote in June was a terrible thing or a good

:06:51. > :06:55.thing. Looking at various indicators and the problem is they have been

:06:56. > :07:01.going off in different directions. In an attempt to try to make sense

:07:02. > :07:04.of it, we have this Brexit Watch exercise at the Guardian. We have

:07:05. > :07:09.looked at various indicators and what it says is that there were

:07:10. > :07:12.fears we would plunge into a post-referendum recession and that

:07:13. > :07:17.does not seem to be happening. But there is a very good set of

:07:18. > :07:20.indicators, consumer spending is strong, unemployment is low and the

:07:21. > :07:29.housing market is holding steady. At the same time, the OECD, who were

:07:30. > :07:34.quite worried about the immediate prospects, seem to be a lot calmer

:07:35. > :07:36.about things as well. Government borrowing was slightly higher than

:07:37. > :07:42.economists expected but again, nothing to worry about. So far, so

:07:43. > :07:46.good but I think that is about as far as you can go at the moment.

:07:47. > :07:49.What we are trying to do is say here is a snapshot of where we are at the

:07:50. > :07:53.moment but it does not tell you where we will be in a few months'

:07:54. > :08:01.time goes as you say, we not triggered Article 50 yet. Will the

:08:02. > :08:05.sky fall in as soon as Theresa May prices the Article 50 button? I have

:08:06. > :08:11.long do not making predictions in this game! As you say, so far it

:08:12. > :08:14.hasn't happened but all of those predictions, as we were saying

:08:15. > :08:17.before we came in, all of those predictions that were made about an

:08:18. > :08:22.instant economic crash were made on the basis that David Cameron says he

:08:23. > :08:26.would trigger -- said he would trigger article 50 the day after the

:08:27. > :08:30.vote to leave the EU. That is what he said he was going to do. So all

:08:31. > :08:33.the predictions suggesting everything was going to go wrong was

:08:34. > :08:37.based on the fact we were going to leave, or the suggestion was we

:08:38. > :08:39.would leave as soon as we lost the vote? That is what the Prime

:08:40. > :08:43.Minister said he would do. He also said he was not going to resign. He

:08:44. > :08:47.said a lot of things but obviously that hasn't happened and most people

:08:48. > :08:52.are pretty glad because Britain needed a bit of time to get its

:08:53. > :08:55.house in order. But that is going to happen probably early next year, we

:08:56. > :08:58.are expecting it in January or February and at that point, there

:08:59. > :09:04.will be some fluctuation, I would imagine. But I think the idea of

:09:05. > :09:07.tracking this as it goes is a very good one. As you says, there are

:09:08. > :09:13.many different measures of how the economy is doing. There are certain

:09:14. > :09:17.newspapers who have been very keen to give a good reflection of how it

:09:18. > :09:23.is doing since we voted to leave the EU. Nice to see the Guardian joining

:09:24. > :09:27.them! It is too early to say and it is worth saying that the OECD has

:09:28. > :09:33.still got a pretty grim economic forecast for Britain next year. It

:09:34. > :09:36.reckons the Eurozone is going to have higher growth than we are in

:09:37. > :09:41.Britain. It's not a catastrophe but it is pretty sluggish. But these

:09:42. > :09:46.people are wrong a lot of the time. Indeed, and let's hope the economy

:09:47. > :09:51.continues to motor. The Financial Times, Theresa May is pushed to

:09:52. > :09:53.publish pay ratios. This is an interesting story, particularly

:09:54. > :10:00.comparing Goldman Sachs and Waitrose. Before she took over, she

:10:01. > :10:06.said she would have a Britain that works for everyone. Boardroom pay

:10:07. > :10:11.and company pay was one of the things that she decided to focus on

:10:12. > :10:15.and wanted to make sure that the differentials within a company were

:10:16. > :10:18.not too huge, that the people at the top were not earning massively more

:10:19. > :10:26.or outrageously more than the people at the bottom. And so, she promised

:10:27. > :10:29.the figures would be transparent, that she would publish them. What

:10:30. > :10:32.this story says is that there is a warning to her that if she does

:10:33. > :10:37.that, she might not get the results she likes. The assumption would be

:10:38. > :10:42.that banks, for example, would come out of this very badly, that the

:10:43. > :10:46.ratio between those at the bottom and that would be very high in terms

:10:47. > :10:50.of banks. What this is warning is that if you look at a company like

:10:51. > :10:53.John Lewis, actually, the ratio might not be so good, there. The

:10:54. > :10:57.rationale is that within banks, someone is being pay phenomenal

:10:58. > :11:01.amounts of the top but also, in the middle, you have people being paid

:11:02. > :11:06.very well. So the ratio was not so high whereas somewhere like John

:11:07. > :11:10.Lewis, you have someone being paid a lot of money but people on the shop

:11:11. > :11:14.for not being paid very much. That ratio figure might not tell us what

:11:15. > :11:18.Theresa May hoped it would and might not give her the kind of political

:11:19. > :11:24.leveraged, the ammunition she hoped for. But won't people understand

:11:25. > :11:29.that there would probably be a difference between Goldman Sachs and

:11:30. > :11:33.Waitrose, that you are going to have people who are on a lower salary,

:11:34. > :11:36.much lower because they do a very different job in relation to many of

:11:37. > :11:41.those people who might be above them in the pecking order of the company?

:11:42. > :11:44.To some extent, yes, definitely although I would argue it is quite

:11:45. > :11:49.outrageous that there is such a pay differential at Waitrose but they

:11:50. > :11:52.and others are seen as more of a model company than Goldman Sachs in

:11:53. > :11:54.the way they are set up. I was at the talk that Vince Cable, the

:11:55. > :11:57.former Business Secretary gave the other day when he said some of this

:11:58. > :12:01.stuff and he was quite scathing about this as an idea. He said they

:12:02. > :12:05.looked at it when he was in government... Publishing the

:12:06. > :12:08.figures? Yes, and he said the problem is it makes people like

:12:09. > :12:11.Goldman Sachs lookalike bastions of virtue when no one would think that

:12:12. > :12:14.was the. I suspect this is more about Theresa May trying to signal

:12:15. > :12:19.she's doing something very serious about corporate pay than actually

:12:20. > :12:23.doing it and frankly, the idea you can shame these guys and senior

:12:24. > :12:29.women into reducing their pay rate is unproven, I would say. Symbols

:12:30. > :12:32.are important but one of the consequences of the Brexit vote was

:12:33. > :12:37.that Theresa May have to show all of those people who voted to leave that

:12:38. > :12:42.she is on their side and things like this, clamping down on outrageous

:12:43. > :12:48.pay is one of those symbols. All right. Apparently we are going to

:12:49. > :12:53.get more spies because MI6 is hiring hundreds more in the war against

:12:54. > :12:57.terror. Theresa May Lars Spies. We have learned that after six years of

:12:58. > :13:00.having her in the Home Office! -- loves spies. She's a big fan of

:13:01. > :13:06.spooks and to be fair, they seem to be doing a very good job keeping

:13:07. > :13:09.Britain protected domestic league and better what we have seen in

:13:10. > :13:12.other parts of Europe so I think there will be lots of public support

:13:13. > :13:15.for this. I think it was announced last year in broad brushstrokes by

:13:16. > :13:19.George Osborne but we are starting to see it filtering through, how it

:13:20. > :13:23.will affect different services. It is a huge increase in the number

:13:24. > :13:28.that MI6, 40% increase in the number of spies which is a massive increase

:13:29. > :13:32.in manpower at a time when most of the public sector is being strained.

:13:33. > :13:37.But I think people basically believe in this and think it is a good idea.

:13:38. > :13:41.Very briefly, the Telegraph, Mark Zuckerberg is going to spend ?3

:13:42. > :13:48.billion apparently getting rid of all of the world's diseases. Is that

:13:49. > :13:51.going to be enough? ?3 million? One thinks not if you bear in mind in

:13:52. > :13:57.January, the government and Bill Gates of Microsoft pledged ?3

:13:58. > :14:02.billion to fight malaria alone. I can't see all disease being wiped

:14:03. > :14:06.out with ?3 billion from Mark Zuckerberg. But I can see what they

:14:07. > :14:10.want to do it but I'm sure there an altruistic motive as well, without

:14:11. > :14:15.wanting to be cynical, God forbid! You work for the Guardian! Greg blue

:14:16. > :14:18.when you hear about tech firms at the moment, you hear about

:14:19. > :14:23.multinationals who are beyond the control of governments, worries

:14:24. > :14:27.about their tax arrangements and things like that. This is the kind

:14:28. > :14:29.of publicity that they need. Good news story, at least on the of it.

:14:30. > :14:33.Thank you for joining us. Don't forget all the front pages

:14:34. > :14:36.are online on the BBC News website, where you can read a detailed review

:14:37. > :14:38.of the papers. It's all there for you, seven days

:14:39. > :14:41.a week at bbc.co.uk/papers. And you can see us there,

:14:42. > :14:43.too, with each night's edition of The Papers

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