22/09/2016

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:00:18. > :00:20.Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be

:00:21. > :00:22.With me are the journalist Yasmin Alibhai Brown

:00:23. > :00:24.and Ben Riley-Smith, political correspondent

:00:25. > :00:30.Tomorrow's front pages, then, starting with...

:00:31. > :00:36.The Independent. It says Theresa May has been warned her plans for

:00:37. > :00:41.grammar schools will push pure dosh poorer pupils further behind their

:00:42. > :00:44.peers. The Daily Telegraph said British troops prosecuted for

:00:45. > :00:48.alleged abuses in Iraq and Afghanistan may have their pay

:00:49. > :00:52.docked to pay legal expenses. The gardening so is prominent Labour MPs

:00:53. > :00:56.will reject a turn to the front bench if Jeremy Corbyn wins the

:00:57. > :01:00.party leadership battle and fails to agree elections to the Shadow

:01:01. > :01:04.Cabinet. The Daily Express insists the EU will give Britain a good deal

:01:05. > :01:10.in Brexit negotiations because millions of jobs are at stake. The

:01:11. > :01:16.Times report on the hacking at Yahoo which compromised 500 million

:01:17. > :01:21.accounts. Great British Bake Off on the front of the Metro as it is on

:01:22. > :01:26.the mirror. It says the BBC is likely to start rival programme to

:01:27. > :01:34.Channel 4's. We will certainly get into that later. Let's begin with

:01:35. > :01:38.the front page of the Guardian. Mr Corbyn are widely expected to win

:01:39. > :01:43.the leadership contest on Saturday and he has to begin the process of

:01:44. > :01:49.rebuilding and filling the front bench. Yes, but I think this is a

:01:50. > :01:53.very, very extraordinary political moment and I don't think I ever

:01:54. > :01:57.remember a political party being in this position because for the

:01:58. > :02:06.political classes, they focus just on the MPs. But out there, the

:02:07. > :02:11.support he has built up, Jeremy Corbyn, is truly impressive. And you

:02:12. > :02:17.cannot ignore their voices. They are people who had given up on politics

:02:18. > :02:21.and who have come back into it. It is a dilemma which, I don't know how

:02:22. > :02:25.you would resolve it, it is like the Church of England and gay marriage,

:02:26. > :02:32.maybe a split is inevitable in some form. The problem he has is that so

:02:33. > :02:37.many talented politicians on the left drifting away to be Mayor in

:02:38. > :02:42.Manchester or to be on select committees, anything but to be on

:02:43. > :02:46.the front bench with him. You cannot ignore those hundreds of thousands

:02:47. > :02:48.of supporters in the country and you cannot ignore the MPs who have been

:02:49. > :02:54.voted by millions of people to represent them. The Guardian piece

:02:55. > :02:58.is good and they have mentioned the Summer and the hectic moment when 60

:02:59. > :03:04.Pulis frontbenchers walked out and they went through those names and

:03:05. > :03:07.said, have you had talks with Jeremy Corbyn to come back? A lot of the

:03:08. > :03:16.big names are not ready to come back. Stella Creasy, Callow -- Kerry

:03:17. > :03:21.McCarthy, and people like Hilary Benn looking for big Parliamentary

:03:22. > :03:25.rolls. Although he has won this big parliamentary mandate, he may get a

:03:26. > :03:30.dozen people returning but he has 60 rolls to fill and how are they going

:03:31. > :03:36.to fulfil the function of an opposition? I think the MPs also

:03:37. > :03:41.have to grow up. You cannot have a process. You could criticise the

:03:42. > :03:48.process initiated by Ed Miliband for ?3 50, you had this power to elect

:03:49. > :03:52.the leader of the party. But you cannot have a process which was

:03:53. > :03:58.validated by the NEC and just because you don't like the result,

:03:59. > :04:05.behave and sulk for quite a long time. They have got to put some

:04:06. > :04:09.majority into what they do next. The trouble is if you cannot bring the

:04:10. > :04:14.party together, you get what we see on the front of the Daily Mirror,

:04:15. > :04:19.that is senior figures from the sidelines. Yvette Cooper makes a

:04:20. > :04:22.fair point, many would think. Extraordinary for a Labour

:04:23. > :04:29.supporting paper to write at the top, Labour is now the nasty party.

:04:30. > :04:34.Yes, that phrase resonates, Theresa May used it at the Tory conference

:04:35. > :04:39.to describe the Tories and that is a worrying state of affairs. She is

:04:40. > :04:48.talking about the guerrilla army of a lot of voters. Who use social

:04:49. > :04:53.media in a most hideous way. This is not the official policy of anybody

:04:54. > :04:58.in whichever side of the power structure you want to look at. What

:04:59. > :05:02.they haven't done and I think this is what Yvette Cooper is saying,

:05:03. > :05:09.they should have clamped down on this a long time ago and they chose

:05:10. > :05:13.not to. And maybe they thought this was quite good, I don't know. Yes,

:05:14. > :05:18.the heart of her argument is that you need to be proactive to stop

:05:19. > :05:22.this. This will go to the National conference tomorrow. It is

:05:23. > :05:28.patrolling and also the leader himself for not taking the task

:05:29. > :05:32.people and she raises one example close to home, Labour supporters who

:05:33. > :05:37.booed elliptical editor Laura Kuenssberg when she tried to raise a

:05:38. > :05:42.question. I was that the debate and there was a lot of booing when her

:05:43. > :05:47.name was called. And eventually, he told them to calm down but did not

:05:48. > :05:51.immediately become proactive and tell them. Yvette Cooper is saying

:05:52. > :05:56.to be proactive, not just warm words. She says, you need to

:05:57. > :05:59.criticise your supporters when they undermine Labour values as well as

:06:00. > :06:04.going after your supporters -- opponents. He says he totally

:06:05. > :06:09.condemns abuse but she says, but more things into place to clamp

:06:10. > :06:16.down. And they have put in new rules. They should expel members.

:06:17. > :06:20.That is the driving of the wedge between them! You have to do

:06:21. > :06:26.something, you cannot tolerate this. It will keep happening. The Daily

:06:27. > :06:33.Telegraph, your paper. The paper is reading this evening with something

:06:34. > :06:36.activating the MOD and the Army and that is legal cases, historical

:06:37. > :06:43.allegations of abuse in Iraq and investigations. It is the third or

:06:44. > :06:47.fourth time it has been on our front pages, we and our leaders care about

:06:48. > :06:55.it and the Daily Mail has it on the front page today. There is a body

:06:56. > :06:59.about the rock historic allegations -- Iraq. There are allegations of

:07:00. > :07:02.war crimes which need to be dealt with seriously and looked at and it

:07:03. > :07:07.needs to be determined whether cases get brought against the troops. Six

:07:08. > :07:13.or seven years from the beginning of Iraq and when this body was taken

:07:14. > :07:18.up, our paper feels the troops being seemingly held to account, people

:07:19. > :07:23.have stepped far beyond the line in what they are doing. This is just an

:07:24. > :07:27.example. All those cases brought by the lawyers get legal aid for the

:07:28. > :07:33.coverage. Here, the troops have to pay from their own pocket, over

:07:34. > :07:41.?12,000 and if it is over ?30,000,... Is it right lawyers get

:07:42. > :07:51.this? I think the focus on the initiative side. That is not enough.

:07:52. > :07:55.It is not just administrative, people face bankruptcy. What I find

:07:56. > :08:00.worrying, the US never signed up to the international court in The

:08:01. > :08:03.Hague. I thought that was wrong if it is an international court,

:08:04. > :08:11.everybody should have been there. The reason they didn't sign up is

:08:12. > :08:15.because they did not want soldiers in the wars we carry out is to be

:08:16. > :08:19.held accountable. There is something wrong there as well, you cannot just

:08:20. > :08:25.have Africans hold to it and the rest of us get away with it. And the

:08:26. > :08:31.second fingers, of course there are heroic soldiers and very good

:08:32. > :08:36.discipline -- second thing is. Not all soldiers, they are not heroes

:08:37. > :08:40.and we need to look at where this has gone. That is a valid point but

:08:41. > :08:46.one case held up today was a prosecution involving a Taliban

:08:47. > :08:49.roadside bomb held up for 100 days trying to blow up British soldiers

:08:50. > :08:54.and he did not like being held in custody. And it was not

:08:55. > :08:58.controversial to say that he admitted the digging a hole is to

:08:59. > :09:05.create a bomb. So you have the route that out, it is a balance. If we

:09:06. > :09:11.hold ourselves up as part of the Western Alliance where we follow

:09:12. > :09:14.rule of law, the rule of law has to apply to the nastiest people

:09:15. > :09:21.otherwise we just go around shooting them. What is the next step? To get

:09:22. > :09:25.the real tyrants in the world, even though this man wanted to kill us,

:09:26. > :09:30.we have to go through the process and do what we have two with it. I

:09:31. > :09:37.think that is the right thing to do. You are right, but there is a

:09:38. > :09:39.balance and some scurrilous allegations are getting through. I

:09:40. > :09:48.think this will get a lot of play tomorrow, on the times. 500 million

:09:49. > :09:57.web users, put that into context. That is jaw-dropping. In the world,

:09:58. > :10:04.they have had their internet history leaked. There are a lot of fake

:10:05. > :10:08.accounts and company accounts, but it shows how staggeringly available

:10:09. > :10:12.this information is. And that is Michelle Obama's passport which was

:10:13. > :10:20.released by this hacking team that had got in. It is terrifying the

:10:21. > :10:25.scale with which you can do this at the click of a couple of buttons.

:10:26. > :10:31.How did they do it? We don't know who did it. With all this

:10:32. > :10:35.information... I do not want to say but there are allegations. They are

:10:36. > :10:40.saying it is state-sponsored which would be the most interesting. That

:10:41. > :10:46.is why I think we will hear more about it. There it is a story at the

:10:47. > :10:53.top of the times, the number of wretched unions, people married,

:10:54. > :10:58.doubled. People living in deeply unhappy relationships. I am really

:10:59. > :11:05.sad about this, we are living in times with more equality between men

:11:06. > :11:12.and women, really quite good modern relationships and apparently, this

:11:13. > :11:23.is happening. And it is happening, the figures are completely reliable.

:11:24. > :11:31.One in 20 is extremely unhappy. Double the proportion in 2010. Is

:11:32. > :11:35.this because life is so expensive? Getting divorced is expensive? You

:11:36. > :11:40.get tied into big mortgages? There is a line of explanation from

:11:41. > :11:44.experts. They said many couples who come together for financial reasons

:11:45. > :11:48.and the recession have become less forgiving of each other's faults, so

:11:49. > :11:53.it is the burden of the recession. What about the unhappy relationship

:11:54. > :11:58.between the BBC and Channel 4 at the moment and the moving of the Great

:11:59. > :12:02.British break of the Channel four. Mary Berry today has decided to

:12:03. > :12:09.stick with the BBC and now we have this story saying the BBC might well

:12:10. > :12:17.bring Mary, Mel and Sue back together. I just want to say three

:12:18. > :12:25.women! They did the right thing. The bloke followed the money! Right,

:12:26. > :12:32.well, yes! They say Nordea may go to Channel 4. I would have the revised

:12:33. > :12:38.my theory. You could be her agent and Ascot prize. Should Channel 4 be

:12:39. > :12:40.buying these programmes from the BBC? Michael grade and John

:12:41. > :12:46.Whittingdale have said it should not be happening. I do not have a

:12:47. > :12:54.particular issue with private companies taking over. Channel 4 is

:12:55. > :13:02.not quite, it is an in between. I find it phenomenal the contract...

:13:03. > :13:06.How in the contract negotiations did they not secure the most important

:13:07. > :13:12.element which is the stars presenting it? They did not consult

:13:13. > :13:16.the stars, from what I hear. Our media commentators said earlier that

:13:17. > :13:20.apparently, there are instances where you sign a big contract and

:13:21. > :13:25.the Thai people in. ITV had looked at buying the programme, but could

:13:26. > :13:35.not be guaranteed the presenters and backed out. I just think, well done,

:13:36. > :13:39.macro to. Well done, Mel and Sue. Could you watch it on Channel 4

:13:40. > :13:43.without the three ladies? Mary Berry says she thinks the British public

:13:44. > :13:46.something not quite right about something not quite right about

:13:47. > :13:53.taking a show that was nurtured by the BBC. Even if it is the same

:13:54. > :14:01.tent? No, no. That is all they have got now. We women have really high

:14:02. > :14:04.morals! Yes, I don't know what the tent manufacturers say about that,

:14:05. > :14:10.if they are going or not! Lets hope they have a deal on the tent!

:14:11. > :14:16.Don't forget - all the front pages are online on the BBC News website,

:14:17. > :14:18.where you can read a detailed review of the papers.

:14:19. > :14:21.It's all there for you, seven days a week, at bbc.co.uk/papers.

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