:00:00. > :00:00.away from winning the Malaysian Grand Prix. That is all the sport
:00:00. > :00:00.for now. Now on BBC News here's
:00:00. > :00:14.Gavin Esler with The Papers. Hello and welcome to our Sunday
:00:15. > :00:17.morning edition of The Papers. With me are Ben Chu
:00:18. > :00:19.of the Independent and Eleanor Mills has fired the Brexit starting gun,
:00:20. > :00:29.saying she'll launch a Great Repeal Bill in the spring,
:00:30. > :00:32.scrapping the law that took Britain Brexit also leads the Telegraph -
:00:33. > :00:39.the headline reads May Takes The Axe It also has an interview
:00:40. > :00:42.with Samantha Jefferies, the widow of a Falklands hero,
:00:43. > :00:45.who this week won a High Court Brexit also leads the Observer,
:00:46. > :00:51.with claims from former Education Secretary Nicky Morgan
:00:52. > :00:53.that the UK turning its back on the single market
:00:54. > :00:55.and closing its borders risks The Express also has
:00:56. > :01:01.that story, proclaiming The Mail on Sunday has a story
:01:02. > :01:07.featuring the claims of comedian Jon Holmes,
:01:08. > :01:09.who says he was sacked from his Radio 4 programme The Now Show
:01:10. > :01:13.for being "white and male." The BBC says it was creating
:01:14. > :01:32.opportunities for more Let's begin with the splash on Me
:01:33. > :01:36.firing the Brexit starting gun, the Great Repeal Bill to scrap EU
:01:37. > :01:41.membership. This is the first time we are getting a sense of what to
:01:42. > :01:45.race in -- Theresa May means when she says Brexit means Brexit. She
:01:46. > :01:52.says this will be a vote under this new bill to repeal all the former
:01:53. > :01:57.legislation meaning EU rules were sovereign over British law, which
:01:58. > :02:02.has been hailed in many papers as a great start. Given how very slim
:02:03. > :02:06.majority in parliament, only 12, it would be interesting to see how that
:02:07. > :02:10.vote goes down and whether MPs really do abide by the referendum,
:02:11. > :02:15.or whether they go more on their own gut. As we know, in Parliament,
:02:16. > :02:20.Brexit was not popular. I think it is interesting, and the other thing
:02:21. > :02:24.that comes out of the interview today and stories on the other
:02:25. > :02:29.papers is the widening sense between a hard Brexit under soft Brexit. Had
:02:30. > :02:37.Brexit being pulling out of the EU quickly, invoking Article 50, then
:02:38. > :02:43.maybe going back to World Trade Organisation tariffs and not trying
:02:44. > :02:48.to have a proper deal allowing us passports to the city so they can go
:02:49. > :02:53.on training. It is a much more hard sense that this is all over. Or a
:02:54. > :02:57.soft one which is more of the status quo, which more centrist people in
:02:58. > :03:03.the Tory party preferred. She is hoping, I think, as she goes into
:03:04. > :03:09.the party conference this week, the this will put a dampener on Brexit.
:03:10. > :03:13.I think it is like chucking a grenade into a tank of petrol, they
:03:14. > :03:20.will go crazy about what this means. I think it is a cracking story, but
:03:21. > :03:23.it raises so many other questions, she has a majority of 12 in
:03:24. > :03:28.Parliament, we know the Conservatives are as divided as the
:03:29. > :03:32.Labour Party on this issue they are particularly divided, and she might
:03:33. > :03:35.not win a vote. We have the supremacy of Parliament after a
:03:36. > :03:39.referendum which the British people made it clear what they think. I
:03:40. > :03:43.think this is more of the media management announcement than
:03:44. > :03:46.anything substantive. There was a great comment on Twitter this
:03:47. > :03:50.morning saying this is the legislative equivalent of the phrase
:03:51. > :03:55.Brexit means Brexit. It sounds dramatic but the content is not
:03:56. > :04:00.there. Why would the UK keep this bill in place after Brexit? Of
:04:01. > :04:06.course it wouldn't, but it doesn't tell us anything about the single
:04:07. > :04:10.market access, it tells us nothing about the customs union,
:04:11. > :04:14.contributions to the EU budget, migration, all these key issues
:04:15. > :04:18.people want to know the answers to are not covered by this Great Repeal
:04:19. > :04:25.Bill, so Great Repeal Bill obviously sounds dramatic but there is no
:04:26. > :04:29.content. But it's very clever, isn't it? She has skirted over this whole
:04:30. > :04:34.business when the big fight in the Tory party is between hard and soft
:04:35. > :04:39.Brexit. We will move on in a moment to Nicky Morgan's story in the
:04:40. > :04:45.Observer where she says she is calling for what she calls a soft
:04:46. > :04:50.Brexit. They have set up a new group called Conservative Mainstream, the
:04:51. > :04:53.more Remain end of the Tory party trying to say we should have the
:04:54. > :04:59.same relationship that we do with the EU. That's go on to that now.
:05:00. > :05:04.The Observer says had Brexit will mean new bigotry according to Nicky
:05:05. > :05:08.Morgan. She fears "Trump like attitudes", we risk losing the
:05:09. > :05:13.centre ground which Theresa May is trying to capture, and Theresa May
:05:14. > :05:17.has been speaking on the Andrew Marr Showed saying she will trigger
:05:18. > :05:22.Article 50 and begin the formal process of leaving the EU before the
:05:23. > :05:27.end of March next year, so we have at least the beginning of a
:05:28. > :05:33.timetable, but she still has the problem, and this has brought down
:05:34. > :05:37.Tory leaders in the past. Article 50 of March confirms what everyone
:05:38. > :05:42.suspected. Boris Johnson said something similar. He was slapped
:05:43. > :05:46.down so it is not exactly news. You are right in terms of the two wings
:05:47. > :05:52.of the Conservative Party sniping at each other now. Yes. Nicky Morgan is
:05:53. > :05:57.saying this morning something which is direct against people like Liam
:05:58. > :06:02.Fox, Iain Duncan Smith, David Davis, saying if you dally with hard Brexit
:06:03. > :06:07.it is dangerous, not just because of the economic impact but social-
:06:08. > :06:10.political impact. If you have the hard right saying we can do all
:06:11. > :06:14.these things and not cooperate with Europe, it is like Trump's view of
:06:15. > :06:19.the world, that you need not cooperate, you just assert yourself
:06:20. > :06:23.and don't need to consider others in your mind. That is an interesting
:06:24. > :06:27.attack because it is different to the usual economic critique we have
:06:28. > :06:31.had before now. It sounds very high-minded but this may be sour
:06:32. > :06:37.breaks, Nicky Morgan was at the ceremoniously tacked on Macs sacked
:06:38. > :06:42.by Theresa May -- may be sour grapes. It is the second time she
:06:43. > :06:46.has had a pop at her since she was relegated. She had a go about
:06:47. > :06:50.grammar schools and now says she is for soft Brexit. There is definitely
:06:51. > :06:54.animosity between these ladies. What is interesting in the Sunday Times
:06:55. > :06:58.interview with Theresa May is how she is positioning herself on the
:06:59. > :07:03.centre ground. It is about social mobility agenda, saying I made it
:07:04. > :07:06.because I was talented, selective education but not a privileged toff
:07:07. > :07:10.like Cameron and his like, and she is campaigning on behalf of people
:07:11. > :07:22.she says had just managing. She says, we need to think about people
:07:23. > :07:24.for whom on the surface it seems OK but life is difficult, they are
:07:25. > :07:26.still struggling. That is really putting her tanks on the centre
:07:27. > :07:29.ground where the Labour Party should be, but of posts do it mac Kos
:07:30. > :07:32.Corbyn has taken them so far into the crazy left-wing wilderness that
:07:33. > :07:35.there is a huge open goal for the Tories, and she is quite right wing
:07:36. > :07:39.but sitting on it because she wants to win. This may be the biggest
:07:40. > :07:43.story of the next two or three years. Very interesting. And the
:07:44. > :07:46.irrelevance of the Labour Party in all this discussion, it you are
:07:47. > :07:51.talking about a fight between the wings of the Tory party, Labour is
:07:52. > :08:01.out of the discussions. Let's move on to the more cheerful subject of
:08:02. > :08:03.American politics! Janet Daley in the Telegraph saying she understands
:08:04. > :08:07.why Americans will vote for a dangerously ignorant demagogue.
:08:08. > :08:11.Quite a few conservatives are very worried about the prospect of a
:08:12. > :08:18.Trump presidency on both sides of the Atlantic. And rightly so! Her
:08:19. > :08:26.column ends up by saying people hate Hillary more than they are offended
:08:27. > :08:34.by Trump, which is probably true. Or true to some extent. But, I mean,
:08:35. > :08:39.Trump is such a peculiar thing it is difficult to say where he fits in
:08:40. > :08:43.the history of American politics. It is an insurgent thing and we don't
:08:44. > :08:46.know where it will end. I am interested in the New York Times
:08:47. > :08:51.revelations about his tax affairs, because they have evidence that he
:08:52. > :08:55.had a stonking great loss on his businesses in the mid-90s, which
:08:56. > :09:02.they think maybe the reason why he was able not to pay income tax for
:09:03. > :09:07.18 years, because even offset losses against profits going forward. That
:09:08. > :09:10.goes to the heart... You may be right that he is unique but he
:09:11. > :09:16.claims to have done it himself of the great businessman and so on, and
:09:17. > :09:19.he isn't. That is the point of Janet baby's column, she is saying what is
:09:20. > :09:24.hard for those in the UK to understand, and I think it is true,
:09:25. > :09:29.having been in America when they were talking about the health Bill
:09:30. > :09:33.and people talking about how awful it is that people might have
:09:34. > :09:37.insurance to give them health care, from a British perspective it is
:09:38. > :09:41.bonkers, but there is this individualistic, I made it myself,
:09:42. > :09:47.section of American politics, this puritanical, I did it my way... They
:09:48. > :09:50.think Trump stands for that. And he inherited his wealth. Exactly, he
:09:51. > :09:54.doesn't stand for the little man although that is how he is
:09:55. > :09:57.positioning himself. You could say Hillary is the presidential
:09:58. > :10:07.candidate because she was married to Bill Clinton and from that things
:10:08. > :10:10.follow, so you have two candidates neither of whom can claim they did
:10:11. > :10:13.it alone. Many people in America say they can't stand either but they
:10:14. > :10:16.have a Hobson's choice. For a lot of Americans who believe in this self
:10:17. > :10:20.actualisation as the defining freedom of the American way, they
:10:21. > :10:25.can't bear it, they see Clinton as a socialist who wants to even everyone
:10:26. > :10:29.up, and it stops Americans being able to do it their way. It is hard
:10:30. > :10:33.for us to get our heads around it but there is a strong thought like
:10:34. > :10:40.that in America. Two countries divided by a common language! I
:10:41. > :10:49.think this is also a cracking story, and other in the Sunday Times, Lord
:10:50. > :10:57.Bell ran a $540 million covert operation in Iraq for the Pentagon.
:10:58. > :11:04.How well did that persuade the Iraqi people? To explain to our viewers
:11:05. > :11:11.what this means, this is the American government giving $540
:11:12. > :11:14.million to a British PR firm to run psychological operations, things
:11:15. > :11:21.like putting lines into soap opera plots in the Arabic media, saying, I
:11:22. > :11:27.hang out with the Americans, or I stopped being a jihadi and now my
:11:28. > :11:30.life is great. It is that kind of propaganda, we are talking about
:11:31. > :11:36.propaganda. They should put them in the Archers, that is the answer! It
:11:37. > :11:40.doesn't seem to have worked. We all know about psychological operations,
:11:41. > :11:45.but it is interesting that this was so privatised. Everything in Iraq
:11:46. > :11:58.was privatised, security, catering for troops etc, but is interesting
:11:59. > :12:00.they gave it to a British company, and they reckon they made ?15
:12:01. > :12:02.million in fees, a lot went to distributing leaflets and probably
:12:03. > :12:04.paying scriptwriters or whatever, but it is a fascinating window into
:12:05. > :12:09.this world. Fascinating, isn't it? It is, but as you say, talk about
:12:10. > :12:13.money badly spent! How much worse could it have been if they haven't
:12:14. > :12:19.done this deep psychological manipulation. It may be made things
:12:20. > :12:23.worse, it was so crude! Our last story of the day, the Mail on
:12:24. > :12:28.Sunday, BBC sacked me for being a white man, I am not speaking
:12:29. > :12:33.personally as far as I know! Radio for comic told he was the wrong and
:12:34. > :12:39.colour, even the former diversity boss says it is unfair, John Holmes
:12:40. > :12:44.sacked from radio fours. As the chair of Women in journalism I bang
:12:45. > :12:51.the drum for diversity a lot and it is true that the airwaves are often
:12:52. > :12:56.filled with what could be called stale pale males. I am usually in
:12:57. > :13:02.favour of diversity, but I think he is great on And Now Show, it is
:13:03. > :13:06.funny, and you need a balance on these things. People think there is
:13:07. > :13:10.positive discrimination so people only get jobs because they are a
:13:11. > :13:14.woman or from an ethnic minority. That is hopeless, it is bad for
:13:15. > :13:18.everybody. People than think you are not as good. Or there is a token.
:13:19. > :13:22.There are many extremely talented women and people of colour out there
:13:23. > :13:26.who could get these jobs but because the way society works, it tends to
:13:27. > :13:30.privilege people who have fitted a prior mould. There are more white
:13:31. > :13:35.chaps at the top than other people, and we do need to do something about
:13:36. > :13:40.that. In FTSE 100 companies if you left it as it was, or politics, it
:13:41. > :13:44.would take 100 years to get parity is something needs to be done but it
:13:45. > :13:48.is hard when people feel they are being squeezed out. And it can be
:13:49. > :13:53.windowdressing, could have -- put a couple of people in low positions
:13:54. > :13:56.because it takes a race box or agenda box, and the people at the
:13:57. > :14:00.top don't change. And they are behind-the-scenes so people don't
:14:01. > :14:04.see them. Box ticking is obviously the approach in one wants. It is
:14:05. > :14:09.analogous to the debate about social mobility, everyone is in favour of
:14:10. > :14:12.it but to have it some people you'll need to move down as well as some
:14:13. > :14:18.moving up. People complain when they move down but you have to understand
:14:19. > :14:21.if you had to get change in big organisations, you sometimes have to
:14:22. > :14:26.push people down and give people bad news. There will be some losers. We
:14:27. > :14:30.should talk about the people who win as well as those who go down. It
:14:31. > :14:35.sounds like it was phrased in a crass way, the person who told in
:14:36. > :14:41.this bad news, so you have sympathy. But the principle is that you should
:14:42. > :14:47.try to get more women into these shows. What is telling in the
:14:48. > :14:52.coverage is the picture of the people running Are Now Show, three
:14:53. > :14:56.white blokes. There are women and people of colour and they don't all
:14:57. > :15:00.need to be white chaps. Thank you very much, that's it for The Papers.
:15:01. > :15:03.Thanks To Ben And Eleanor. Just a reminder, we take a look
:15:04. > :15:07.at the next day's front pages every