03/10/2016

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:00:19. > :00:21.Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be

:00:22. > :00:25.With me are the journalist and broadcaster Aasmah Mir

:00:26. > :00:27.and the political commentator for the Financial Times,

:00:28. > :00:30.The Daily Express looks ahead to Jeremy Hunt's speech tomorrow

:00:31. > :00:32.at the Tory Party conference, in which the Health Secretary

:00:33. > :00:35.will outline plans to create hundreds of new training places

:00:36. > :00:43.The Metro has on its front page a picture

:00:44. > :00:46.of the reality TV star, Kim Kardashian-West,

:00:47. > :00:50.arriving home in New York after being robbed at gunpoint

:00:51. > :00:58.Phillip Hammond's announcement, that the government will scrap

:00:59. > :01:00.its target of a budget surplus by 2020.

:01:01. > :01:05.too, with the paper pointing out how the pound has fallen to its lowest

:01:06. > :01:06.level against the dollar for three months.

:01:07. > :01:11.as well as featuring Jeremy Hunt's plans, also carries the news that US

:01:12. > :01:13.is pulling out of talks with Russia over the future of Syria.

:01:14. > :01:18.front page features the government plans to opt out of international

:01:19. > :01:23.human rights law which is used to bring cases against soldiers.

:01:24. > :01:41.The Times newspaper, doctors must pay back thousands if they quit the

:01:42. > :01:46.NHS? This will be the centrepiece of Jeremy Hunt's speech to the Tory

:01:47. > :01:50.party conference? Yes, he seems to have a two pronged attack that he is

:01:51. > :01:54.talking about. One, that he says there will not be any need to import

:01:55. > :01:59.what he calls overseas doctors, because we are going to train 1500

:02:00. > :02:04.extra doctors and everything will be fine and dandy. Also, if a doctor is

:02:05. > :02:07.to be tempted to go somewhere, perhaps more lucrative or whatever

:02:08. > :02:12.the phrase may be, Australia for example... They kind of point be

:02:13. > :02:16.allowed to. Some newspapers are calling it a fine, but The Times

:02:17. > :02:20.newspaper say that they will have to pay back thousands, some of the

:02:21. > :02:27.money that third government puts in to train the doctors in the first

:02:28. > :02:31.place, not exactly a deterrent to stop what some people see as a brain

:02:32. > :02:35.drain, people leaving the NHS to work overseas. I don't know whether

:02:36. > :02:40.it will work and how it will work. But certainly, it is headline

:02:41. > :02:45.grabbing. Yes, and it has grabbed the headlines in a number of papers.

:02:46. > :02:48.Miranda, there is a time limit? You qualify as a doctor and 43-4 years

:02:49. > :02:54.you must work in this country and then you can go to Australia or

:02:55. > :03:00.Canada? People would ask, why are they leaving the UK in the first

:03:01. > :03:07.place? -- for 3-4. Yes, Jeremy Hunt has come out of a dispute with the

:03:08. > :03:12.BMA, either his plans for a seven-week NHS, now he declares war

:03:13. > :03:15.again. It seems that they have put out a statement, not excepting

:03:16. > :03:19.welcoming, of what he will announce in the speech tomorrow. He will be

:03:20. > :03:23.daggers drawn with doctors all over again after this. Some would say,

:03:24. > :03:30.perhaps, this kind of approach, we know that there are tens of

:03:31. > :03:34.thousands of foreign trained doctors in the NHS. They are very important

:03:35. > :03:38.for keeping the NHS going. The government is going to have a

:03:39. > :03:42.problem after Brexit. He has said is not The Times version of the story

:03:43. > :03:48.but one of the others, he has said EU nationals are working in the NHS

:03:49. > :03:52.is doctors, and they are allowed to stay. But we cannot recruit from the

:03:53. > :03:57.EU, we must train our own doctors. But the idea that you will not let

:03:58. > :04:02.British trained doctors leave, what will happen? A fortress NHS? Nobody

:04:03. > :04:07.leaves, nobody comes in. It seems like he believes the current dispute

:04:08. > :04:10.with junior doctors is over? He's basically moving on to something

:04:11. > :04:16.else... Moving on to the next one! It's another issue, the BMA would

:04:17. > :04:20.say that is not the case? Yes, and what about the circumstances that

:04:21. > :04:24.would make people want to leave and go to Australia? He can't do a lot

:04:25. > :04:29.about the weather in Australia... And the beaches, but he can stop

:04:30. > :04:33.changing the terms on which the NHS doctors are expected to work. There

:04:34. > :04:36.is a difference in perception, some people say doctors here are

:04:37. > :04:41.overworked, and they work long hours. Obviously we have had this

:04:42. > :04:45.stuff about the seven-day NHS. And other people feel, like I hinted

:04:46. > :04:50.earlier, that some doctors perhaps want to line their pockets. Their

:04:51. > :04:54.view, not necessarily mine, by going abroad and having an easier time,

:04:55. > :04:59.maybe shorter hours, sunnier climates and more money perhaps as

:05:00. > :05:03.well. There are two ways of looking at this. And also private practice

:05:04. > :05:09.as well, not just doctors being prevented from going abroad too

:05:10. > :05:16.early. It will affect that as well, the public purse pays for their

:05:17. > :05:20.training. The Daily Mail, this is after a Daily Mail campaign... Well

:05:21. > :05:24.done. At yourselves on the back! Yes, every changed anything about

:05:25. > :05:29.the legal or justice system must always be a victory for some sort of

:05:30. > :05:33.newspaper campaign or another... -- pat yourselves. There's been a lot

:05:34. > :05:38.of coverage about the number of cases being brought against British

:05:39. > :05:44.troops, based on their actions in the battlefield, or how they treated

:05:45. > :05:49.prisoners of war and, there's been a feeling that the legal profession

:05:50. > :05:53.may be exploiting the Human Rights Act, essentially. It looks as if

:05:54. > :05:57.tomorrow, at the Tory party conference, The Papers are

:05:58. > :06:02.dominated... It's a drip drip of things that would distract from

:06:03. > :06:08.Brexit, in my view. They are going to announce that actually, during

:06:09. > :06:12.times of conflict, in the theatre of war, the Human Rights Act will not

:06:13. > :06:18.apply to British troops. It's an extremely... Dramatic break with the

:06:19. > :06:23.idea of the Human Rights Act being an integral part of British law.

:06:24. > :06:26.This feeds into the long-term promises from senior Tory

:06:27. > :06:30.politicians to repeal the Human Rights Act. Where it goes from

:06:31. > :06:38.this... That will be interesting to watch. Do we leave it at that? How

:06:39. > :06:44.can you suspend... One area of law in... Can you do this? They said

:06:45. > :06:48.they would withdraw from EC HR temporarily, I did not know that you

:06:49. > :06:54.could do that. But in 2016 it seems anything is possible. The last

:06:55. > :07:00.country to suspend the application of the Convention on human rights

:07:01. > :07:04.was Turkey to suppress the coup. Once again it is this thing of

:07:05. > :07:06.Britain putting itself in uncomfortable company

:07:07. > :07:10.internationally by pulling out of these human rights agreements. Also,

:07:11. > :07:17.as well, there are suggestions that they are never any questions to ask,

:07:18. > :07:22.that should be asked, potentially, they soldiers conduct in war being

:07:23. > :07:27.beyond the bounds of what is reasonable. One wonders if what the

:07:28. > :07:31.Daily Mail and others who are pushing the campaign, they would say

:07:32. > :07:37.very legitimately and reasons for doing so... They believe that the

:07:38. > :07:43.British can do whatever they like? Absolutely, you are right, but their

:07:44. > :07:51.argument is, it has turned into, in their words, a vexatious claims

:07:52. > :07:55.industry. And they are selling it by saying it is expected to save

:07:56. > :08:00.taxpayers hundreds of millions of pounds in legal aid payments. It is

:08:01. > :08:02.a sticking point for a lot of people as well. Indeed. You were talking

:08:03. > :08:11.about the newspaper six -- escaping Brexit, they can't. It

:08:12. > :08:18.is what the public wanted! The front page of the Financial Times. Hamman

:08:19. > :08:21.warns of two years of financial turbulence and uncertainty. --

:08:22. > :08:26.Hammond. Your seat belts on! It is interesting. You could say that he

:08:27. > :08:29.is being refreshingly honest. We are heading for some tough times, but

:08:30. > :08:37.I'm going to mitigate this is much as I can buy not putting all of the

:08:38. > :08:41.money into reducing the deficit and getting into surplus, but forgetting

:08:42. > :08:47.about austerity, and spending on housing and infrastructure. The

:08:48. > :08:53.reason he's doing that is to kind of soften the edges of the fallout of

:08:54. > :08:56.Brexit. It is an interesting change of course, totally opposite to what

:08:57. > :09:02.George Osborne was doing... But, I don't know. It's probably welcoming,

:09:03. > :09:06.people spending on housing and infrastructure, not a bad thing! It

:09:07. > :09:11.is interesting. Philip Hammond was four remained. He did not agree, he

:09:12. > :09:16.does not agree, with the decision -- wanted to remain. But he has to

:09:17. > :09:20.follow through. And others in the Cabinet. They make the point that

:09:21. > :09:23.the British people did not vote for the economic circumstances to go

:09:24. > :09:28.through the floor. They are willing to fight and fight. It's quite

:09:29. > :09:32.interesting, that someone who is on that side of the argument, who was

:09:33. > :09:38.on that side of the argument before the vote, is willing to go the extra

:09:39. > :09:41.mile to make the vote work? You would on this thing that they would

:09:42. > :09:47.think, you know what? You voted to leave, it's going to be a mess! Let

:09:48. > :09:51.it be a mess! They are expending political capital in defeating this.

:09:52. > :09:56.Absolutely. Actually, Philip Hammond, as an individual in this

:09:57. > :10:01.internal Cabinet War, it will now go on for the next few months about how

:10:02. > :10:04.we approach the negotiations to leave, is emerging as an interesting

:10:05. > :10:08.figure. I don't know if you watched his speech today, it was very

:10:09. > :10:11.strange, he kept talking about how boring he was being. But the

:10:12. > :10:18.Financial Times in its column tomorrow rightly welcomes this sober

:10:19. > :10:24.and sensible pragmatic figure who seems to be almost signalling to his

:10:25. > :10:28.colleagues to calm down. We had to handle this sensibly. We have to

:10:29. > :10:32.make the best of it. Absolutely. That means, I'm afraid, retaining as

:10:33. > :10:37.much access to the single market as possible. At the moment at the

:10:38. > :10:41.conference, party conferences are terrible things, right? Politicians

:10:42. > :10:44.stand up, preaching to the converted, so bonkers things that

:10:45. > :10:51.press the hot buttons of their own people. But we've had crazy stuff

:10:52. > :10:54.from Liam Fox saying that this will lead to a six boarding a lot of jam

:10:55. > :11:00.and Barber led, that is literally what he said -- marmalade. It was

:11:01. > :11:07.said that if we need 10% tariffs, so be it. So... He would not suffer,

:11:08. > :11:11.would he? This is the awful thing. People would suffer... Philip

:11:12. > :11:16.Hammond would not suffer either, why is he bothering to expend political

:11:17. > :11:20.capital, potentially, with a lot of the Conservative Party who want hard

:11:21. > :11:23.Brexit and want to get out, why is he bothered? Patriotism, I think

:11:24. > :11:32.he's fighting for the best outcome. Good for him. This is why the Brexit

:11:33. > :11:35.discussion and the referendum was so interesting. Different

:11:36. > :11:43.interpretations for different people. Absolutely, let's go to the

:11:44. > :11:49.metro. And the story... Are we going to the Metro? Yes. It's a horrible

:11:50. > :12:07.front page if this is what she said...

:12:08. > :12:10.You get what I'm saying. Her plea to these ?9 million jewel robbers in

:12:11. > :12:15.Paris. If you don't know who she is... She is a businesswoman,

:12:16. > :12:20.reality star, etc, she was in Paris with a lot of jewellery, I don't

:12:21. > :12:23.know if it was hers, but she was held at gunpoint by armed robbers

:12:24. > :12:28.pretending to be police officers. She was tied up in the bathroom, it

:12:29. > :12:31.sounded like a traumatic experience for her Comanche may have said,

:12:32. > :12:39.don't kill me because I have children to look after.

:12:40. > :12:46.What is horrible about the story, the amount of vitriol and lack of

:12:47. > :12:51.sympathy because she is someone... Some people suggested it was staged?

:12:52. > :12:58.This is someone who has gone through a horrendous experience, and is not

:12:59. > :13:01.to be laughed at. Those who have been critical online, they are

:13:02. > :13:06.critical of the brand and not the human being. It's difficult to see

:13:07. > :13:11.beyond the brand to see the human being. That's part of the problem

:13:12. > :13:17.with, essentially, making money from your life, 100% of your life. Yes,

:13:18. > :13:22.but I wonder whether it is such a modern phenomenon, really... The

:13:23. > :13:26.idea that, really, we are less than an pathetic when someone in the

:13:27. > :13:32.public eye suffers a horrible trauma. It has probably always been

:13:33. > :13:36.that way... But I agree absolutely. It is horrible and sounds like she

:13:37. > :13:40.has had a horrendous experience, tied up by armed robbers. You would

:13:41. > :13:44.not wish that upon your worst enemy. What will be interesting is, with

:13:45. > :13:48.the programme that follows her around, and the cameras, they would

:13:49. > :13:52.not have documented this episode but would have documented the before and

:13:53. > :13:56.after. If it is then broadcast, it probably will be to some extent on

:13:57. > :14:00.her programme. Then, you can understand that some sympathy levels

:14:01. > :14:07.will be dropped. Briefly, the express, on the second page, fury on

:14:08. > :14:14.running around in the playground. You can't run around in the

:14:15. > :14:17.playground any more? It is health and safety gone mad according to

:14:18. > :14:22.paragraph two. My kids are back in primary school, they went back a few

:14:23. > :14:26.weeks ago. You get this thing, phone calls saying... I don't want to

:14:27. > :14:29.worry you, everything is fine, but she's bumped her head again. What

:14:30. > :14:33.the school has actually done, they've tried to set up will turn to

:14:34. > :14:39.of lunchtime activities so they aren't... Human cannonball is!

:14:40. > :14:48.Including dancing to the YMCA. That sounds like a good idea! All right,

:14:49. > :14:51.OK. Thank you to both of you for looking at the stories behind the

:14:52. > :14:54.headlines. Thank you. Much more coming up later but now,

:14:55. > :14:56.it's time for a look at the weather.