04/10/2016

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:00:14. > :00:16.Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be

:00:17. > :00:22.With me are the former Labour political advisor,

:00:23. > :00:24.Ayesha Hazarika, and Neil Midgley, media commentator at

:00:25. > :00:34.We are going to be gained with a reminder of the breaking news which

:00:35. > :00:41.makes it onto the front of one of the pages tomorrow morning, the

:00:42. > :00:48.resignation of Diane James, the MEP elected 18 days ago to lead the

:00:49. > :00:54.party, Ukip. That is the head in the Times. Ukip leader quitting after

:00:55. > :00:59.three weeks. Full marks for getting it on this quickly. Great scoop by

:01:00. > :01:04.Lucy Fisher in terms of getting the scoop. This story is extraordinary

:01:05. > :01:09.and I don't think we'll get to the bottom of it for some time. A report

:01:10. > :01:15.said she felt shaken after being spat on on a train on the way to

:01:16. > :01:19.Cardiff but I think there is more to it. The key line in the resignation

:01:20. > :01:25.is that she does not have the sufficient authority nor support of

:01:26. > :01:29.her colleagues and party, indicating that there were rules she wanted to

:01:30. > :01:37.change, questions she was asking about finances so I think it allude

:01:38. > :01:42.to something much murkier going on. And rats fighting in a very small

:01:43. > :01:47.sac. There is a question about whether Ukip still has a role in the

:01:48. > :01:51.post-referendum Britain, what do they stand for, what do they want,

:01:52. > :01:57.what is their pitch to the electorate? Nigel Farage has been

:01:58. > :02:04.the leader at least twice. They want him to come back! Technically he may

:02:05. > :02:13.still be the leader because she has said she has not formally become the

:02:14. > :02:22.leader. For ever Farage! Steven Woolfe, who was the Ukip the hope

:02:23. > :02:27.against the Labour Party in the North, there is some weirdness about

:02:28. > :02:37.him not getting his papers in on time. I don't think it was 18

:02:38. > :02:43.minutes. It is like Stranger Things, these strange things happening in

:02:44. > :02:52.Ukip. One difficulty happening with Ukip, the Times has done it and now

:02:53. > :02:58.the Daily Telegraph. Presume the others will be dependent.

:02:59. > :03:04.Interesting that Diane James Haskell in her statement to the Times -- has

:03:05. > :03:16.given her statement. And it is on the day of Theresa May's big speech

:03:17. > :03:21.at the Tory party conference. Getting the news before 9pm, when

:03:22. > :03:28.the paper goes to bed. It sets the agenda. The Daily Mail is doing its

:03:29. > :03:36.bit tomorrow, Ayesha, with its very bold image, Theresa May savaging

:03:37. > :03:45.leave the liberal -- savaging the liberal elite. We are all liberal!

:03:46. > :03:50.What is really interesting is that I think that Theresa May's speech is

:03:51. > :03:54.not going to have many nuggets of policy, it looks like they have

:03:55. > :03:59.briefed out the interesting policy things, the timing of Article 50,

:04:00. > :04:06.the thing about overseas doctors and immigration. The key message they

:04:07. > :04:11.want to get to the country is a big patriotic message, a big appeal.

:04:12. > :04:15.Ironically I think it is to the Ukip voters and those who voted for

:04:16. > :04:19.Brexit, saying that we've heard you, we get what you are saying and we

:04:20. > :04:25.are on your side. It is more about tone. We have Eneko on the front of

:04:26. > :04:37.the Daily Express, the message that they won't grovel to Brussels. -- we

:04:38. > :04:46.have an echo. According to the press Association, Liam Fox this evening

:04:47. > :04:50.was casting doubt on the quality of the CVs of the trade negotiators who

:04:51. > :04:54.may be a part of the British team. It would be a strange interview

:04:55. > :05:01.where the interviewer says, would you grovel to Brussels and Theresa

:05:02. > :05:06.May would say, just a bit. Of course she has to talk tough and Theresa

:05:07. > :05:10.May personally has played a very strong tactical game, staying

:05:11. > :05:15.relatively neutral during the referendum campaign itself so now

:05:16. > :05:23.she can pretend to be all things to all men and women. Particularly to

:05:24. > :05:27.disenfranchised Labour voters. The stark thing that stood out to meet

:05:28. > :05:31.at the Labour conference was that the Labour Party has no answer to

:05:32. > :05:36.the many millions of natural Labour supporters who want curbs on

:05:37. > :05:42.immigration. The Labour Party just isn't speaking to that and Theresa

:05:43. > :05:47.May comes from relatively modest background herself, she is able to

:05:48. > :05:51.say once again, as Margaret Thatcher did in the 80s: we are the parties

:05:52. > :05:58.of the aspirational working-class -- the party. Picking up on what Niall

:05:59. > :06:01.said, looking at the front of the Guardian, Theresa May calling on the

:06:02. > :06:11.Tories to seize the centre ground. Papers will take the editorial line.

:06:12. > :06:16.You briefed the papers to things that may appeal to their readers.

:06:17. > :06:20.People will feel that her initial big picture on the steps of Downing

:06:21. > :06:30.Street was very much that they are going to rules from the centre,

:06:31. > :06:33.almost like an Ed Miliband speech, like one government, but I think the

:06:34. > :06:38.reality will be different. I think Neill is right, they need a

:06:39. > :06:43.political and strategic decision to go after the northern heartlands

:06:44. > :06:47.where they will try to settle. They know that Labour is soft in those

:06:48. > :06:52.areas because of the Brexit vote and immigration issues. Difficult for

:06:53. > :06:58.Labour to navigate through the Freedom of movement stuff. Diane

:06:59. > :07:03.James and Ukip couldn't come at a better time for Theresa May. Her

:07:04. > :07:08.policies, grammar schools, immigration, that is catnip to that

:07:09. > :07:12.kind of right wing, people who are interested. She's saying to Ukip

:07:13. > :07:17.voters, come back to the Conservative Party. This talk of the

:07:18. > :07:26.centre ground is for the birds. Right! Fact! Not closing the deficit

:07:27. > :07:32.by the end of the Parliament, the people who care about that.

:07:33. > :07:37.Extraordinary because for years the Labour Party have been said that

:07:38. > :07:41.their policy of borrowing more to invest was irresponsible but now

:07:42. > :07:44.that rule has been ripped up. There is that think that in government you

:07:45. > :07:52.can fairly shamelessly pick from what the other parties have and you

:07:53. > :08:00.don't get access match -- you don't get too much flak. This fund from

:08:01. > :08:07.and am -- announced from Amber Rudd today. The living wage. Diane James

:08:08. > :08:15.said in her first conference speech, she called Theresa May magpie May

:08:16. > :08:19.because she was collecting policies and the grammar school policy was a

:08:20. > :08:22.Ukip policy. One thing in the Guardian piece, Theresa May

:08:23. > :08:27.attacking the Labour Party saying that they have not just been divided

:08:28. > :08:35.as a party, they have divided the country. I have issue with that,

:08:36. > :08:38.Labour is very divided. At least Ukip have made us look better but I

:08:39. > :08:43.don't think anybody would say that the Labour Party policies are

:08:44. > :08:48.defined in the country. Grammar schools are very divisive. Hardline

:08:49. > :08:51.talk on immigration, doctors going back, that is pretty divisive stuff

:08:52. > :09:01.and she will have a big row with Scotland over Brexit. The big idea

:09:02. > :09:06.that... I think she will be far more divisive. If Jeremy Corbyn and the

:09:07. > :09:10.Labour Party had done the right kind of job with their supporters in the

:09:11. > :09:15.referendum vote, we would have had a Remain vote and the country would

:09:16. > :09:19.now be united in membership of the European Union, that is the

:09:20. > :09:29.divisiveness of the Labour Party, internal fighting, not doing what it

:09:30. > :09:34.needs to do with the big issues in the country. The Labour Party is

:09:35. > :09:46.definitely divided. Nothing was more divisive than the referendum result

:09:47. > :09:50.and it is your guide's fault. -- your guy. The Guardian look like

:09:51. > :09:57.they have some fashion advice for if the Prime Minister gets into tough

:09:58. > :10:05.negotiations with the EU. And some advice from Kim Kardashian and Kanye

:10:06. > :10:11.West, apparently hiring doubles. Going to the Metro, bumpy Brexit

:10:12. > :10:19.ahead, a slightly different take on her words. Yes and in particular on

:10:20. > :10:23.Philip Hammond's words. Good cop bad cop I think, Philip Hammond is

:10:24. > :10:28.saying as Chancellor, you know, it is looking bleak and it will be a

:10:29. > :10:33.roller-coaster and it may look all right at the moment but choppy

:10:34. > :10:40.economic waters ahead and then Boadicea Theresa comes along in her

:10:41. > :10:45.chariot and says we are patriotic, tough, the party of the working

:10:46. > :10:50.classes the same as everybody else. Clearly it is going to be bumpy

:10:51. > :10:55.ahead. There's one sentence that sooner or later must come out of a

:10:56. > :11:02.Conservative's mouth, either we want to stay in the single market or we

:11:03. > :11:07.don't. That will be the decisive point that will decide how bumpy it

:11:08. > :11:13.gets stuck last word. The Chancellor Philip Hammond summed it up when he

:11:14. > :11:18.said that nobody voted to get poorer when they made the decision, time

:11:19. > :11:20.will tell. The IMF have said that they were possibly overly

:11:21. > :11:24.pessimistic but they are still worried about the future. Ending on

:11:25. > :11:33.a download! Thank you for joining us. -- down note. A reminder of the

:11:34. > :11:37.breaking news about Diane James's decision to quit as Ukip leader

:11:38. > :11:39.after 18 days because she says she does not have the authority to make

:11:40. > :11:56.the changes she needs. Still a relatively quiet and

:11:57. > :12:01.tranquil scene over the UK over the next few days in stark contrast to

:12:02. > :12:02.the devastation brought by