:00:17. > :00:19.Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be
:00:20. > :00:23.With me are Paul Johnson, Deputy editor of the Guardian
:00:24. > :00:25.and Tim Collins, the former Conservative MP and current
:00:26. > :00:27.managing director of Bell Pottinger Public Affairs.
:00:28. > :00:32.Tomorrow's front pages starting with...
:00:33. > :00:35.The Telegraph looks at Theresa May's speech at the Conservative Party
:00:36. > :00:38.conference, which the paper says was largely aimed at winning
:00:39. > :00:39.over wavering Labour supporters, particularly
:00:40. > :00:51.The Daily Express says she invoked Margaret Thatcher as she promised to
:00:52. > :00:57.reunite a country where everybody had a chance to succeed.
:00:58. > :01:03.The Times says the speech was strongly interventionist and put
:01:04. > :01:06.some of the UK's biggest businesses and notice to expect aggressive
:01:07. > :01:08.actions against some of their practices.
:01:09. > :01:14.The Guardian says she will use the Brexit vote as a mandate to break
:01:15. > :01:16.decisively with David Cameron's brand of conservatism.
:01:17. > :01:20.The Daily Mail says the speech was one of the most radical delivered by
:01:21. > :01:26.a Conservative leader in a decade. And it talks about some of those
:01:27. > :01:30.companies that she will be going after.
:01:31. > :01:34.The Daily Mirror ignores the whole speech, sticking with a story about
:01:35. > :01:38.bullying and the tragic death of a young man.
:01:39. > :01:45.Let's go straight in. The Daily Telegraph. By far the most striking
:01:46. > :01:55.line in her speech, it's time to remember the good government can do.
:01:56. > :02:03.Not a phrase one can see others using. It went down well with the
:02:04. > :02:06.Conservative faithful. She was distancing herself from a lot of
:02:07. > :02:11.things which have been conservative totems of faith. They were lapping
:02:12. > :02:17.her to the rafters. Used to write her to the rafters. Used to write
:02:18. > :02:21.speeches at one point further previous leaders. -- you used to.
:02:22. > :02:28.She would not have liked it if I had put that in. She may have struck it
:02:29. > :02:33.out, even thrown it on the fire. What is interesting about all of
:02:34. > :02:37.this, I think I know which book she took with her and her walk. Because
:02:38. > :02:41.one of the themes that comes through all of the report in the papers
:02:42. > :02:45.tomorrow is this theme of citizenship and this idea
:02:46. > :02:49.repatriating some. This idea of something being more important than
:02:50. > :02:52.individualism and selfishness. About bringing the whole country together.
:02:53. > :02:56.That theme of citizenship is the central theme of the biography of
:02:57. > :03:01.Clement Attlee which was published this year, which is all about this
:03:02. > :03:11.man who was incredibly patriotic. He got Britain a deterrent. But he was
:03:12. > :03:13.someone who built the NHS and brought people together. Normally
:03:14. > :03:17.you would think Clement Attlee would be a hero for the Labour Party,
:03:18. > :03:23.somebody the Tory party would not like. He is one of the people they
:03:24. > :03:26.often quote. What has happened with Jeremy Corbyn is that the Labour
:03:27. > :03:32.Party have vacated that ground patridge 's, which is the core of
:03:33. > :03:36.the values of many of the traditional Labour voters, and that
:03:37. > :03:40.she can move on and say I get that patriotism bit, and I get the
:03:41. > :03:46.holding business to account bit, so she could clean up electorally. It
:03:47. > :03:49.is all over for the left? He has come straight from Birmingham, his
:03:50. > :03:53.pulse is still racing. CHUCKLES
:03:54. > :04:00.He is so excited. The heady aroma of politics and power. This is a speech
:04:01. > :04:04.of two halves. It could have been written in a combination of Ed
:04:05. > :04:07.Miliband and the Daily Mail lead writer. On the one hand you have the
:04:08. > :04:14.extraordinary thing about advocation of workers' rights over, sort of, we
:04:15. > :04:19.will pursue the tax avoidance. And if you look at the Daily Mail, we
:04:20. > :04:23.are coming after you. Looking at dysfunctional markets. A
:04:24. > :04:30.house-building bill. All of that was straight up the root of Ed Miliband.
:04:31. > :04:36.But there was this hard Brexit, grammar schools, human rights
:04:37. > :04:40.lawyers bit, well, you are on our list. Foreign workers, you and Amber
:04:41. > :04:52.Rudd's list. Foreign students, you are probably on the list, as well.
:04:53. > :04:55.-- you are on. Camerons and Blairite and maybe Guardian writers don't get
:04:56. > :05:02.it. That category of policies Paul has set out is absolutely what a
:05:03. > :05:07.whole chunk of people, several millions of people who in the past
:05:08. > :05:10.voted Leaves, who are up for grabs, voted Leaves, who are up for grabs,
:05:11. > :05:14.they believed both parts of that. They believe I'm being tough on
:05:15. > :05:22.immigration, tough and Brexit, but they believe in the NHS and workers'
:05:23. > :05:27.rights. -- voted Leave. She voted on behalf of the people who will decide
:05:28. > :05:32.what happens in the future. So she isn't talking to liberals. She is
:05:33. > :05:37.talking to small seed conservatives who are in Ukip, or who have
:05:38. > :05:42.traditionally been in labour. Because Clement Attlee was quite a
:05:43. > :05:46.conservative person. Many people who haven't voted Conservative before,
:05:47. > :05:49.and wouldn't have dreamt of it Margaret Thatcher or David Cameron
:05:50. > :05:55.is fascinating about to May is that is fascinating about to May is that
:05:56. > :05:59.at the moment she is at the peak of her political potency. --
:06:00. > :06:04.fascinating thing about Theresa May. She is popular. That won't last.
:06:05. > :06:07.What she do with that power? Not what Margaret Thatcher did, I'm
:06:08. > :06:10.going to tell you why you have got to be nice, she says, on the
:06:11. > :06:15.contrary, I will tell business what you have got to do your country,
:06:16. > :06:20.which is more. We don't have to go back to Clement Attlee. John Major
:06:21. > :06:24.had the age of consent policies. Cameron had his common ground. Now
:06:25. > :06:29.we have the new centre ground. No politician declares themselves and
:06:30. > :06:34.I'm an extremist, this is where I am coming from, do they? Have you heard
:06:35. > :06:39.of Jeremy Corbyn? CHUCKLES
:06:40. > :06:49.You are being defensive now. I'm not defensive about Jeremy Corbyn. Let's
:06:50. > :06:53.go to the front of your paper. Is it your kind of paper's line tomorrow
:06:54. > :06:57.morning, OK, we will take her at her word, but we will look at this in
:06:58. > :07:03.six months and say, did she mean what she said, or is it rhetoric? I
:07:04. > :07:07.think it is that. There are some things that were attractive in the
:07:08. > :07:13.speech. She must have been struck by the lily livered and the Sudbury
:07:14. > :07:18.made accusations. It was noticeable in the speech, she thanked Cameron.
:07:19. > :07:24.Two sentences later she said we see all around us division and
:07:25. > :07:30.unfairness. That was a bit of an atomic missile. A little unfair. The
:07:31. > :07:36.sentences in between were pretty important. Nobody claims that David
:07:37. > :07:43.Cameron had managed to solve all of the nation's problems. She
:07:44. > :07:47.congratulated him on changing the party. He had done some important
:07:48. > :07:51.things for the party. But she said circumstances have changed again.
:07:52. > :07:57.One of the sub themes at the conference was, what is her mandate?
:07:58. > :08:01.She wasn't elected. Cameron won the election. She will take the Brexit
:08:02. > :08:06.referendum as mandate for change. It is paradox given she was against.
:08:07. > :08:13.That seems to be the way she is going. This is somebody speaking as
:08:14. > :08:25.if she has won the swathes of the public. She was on the right side of
:08:26. > :08:28.the referendum. Anyway... Do you break by this idea that seems to be
:08:29. > :08:34.at the heart of this speech, this kind of... This year zero.
:08:35. > :08:38.Everything that went before in politics no longer applies because
:08:39. > :08:41.of the referendum result? In other words you can get rid of the things
:08:42. > :08:45.the current government did over the last six years you don't want to be
:08:46. > :08:49.associated with thinking the public were not impressed with that. You
:08:50. > :08:53.can say all of the elites were out of touch. We are coming in, it is a
:08:54. > :08:57.fresh political situation as a result of that one vote. That is
:08:58. > :09:02.certainly what she is going to try. certainly what she is going to try.
:09:03. > :09:05.I think it'll be a challenge. She is right to be able to point out that
:09:06. > :09:11.more people voted in the referendum than at any other general election
:09:12. > :09:20.in our history after 1992. There was a bigger mandate for Leave. I was on
:09:21. > :09:26.the side that won the referendum, she was on the losing side. But she,
:09:27. > :09:29.like others, has accepted that the public have spoken and she is
:09:30. > :09:33.determined to deliver Brexit. But how much of this domestic agenda can
:09:34. > :09:39.she possibly deliver given Brexit will be so all-consuming? We have to
:09:40. > :09:49.be careful. There were not many camera
:09:50. > :09:56.-- there were not many Cameron and Osborne supporters at the
:09:57. > :10:04.conference. This must entreat you, what the consequences of the
:10:05. > :10:08.downfall of the fate Sheikh might be. He has been working for 30
:10:09. > :10:13.years. He's had a similar process. He goes in with a disguise. He who
:10:14. > :10:19.is people into situations whereby they are either culpable in a sense
:10:20. > :10:33.which isn't criminal but culpable in the way that the campus of Essex was
:10:34. > :10:36.lured into this. -- he lures people. There have been suggestions that it
:10:37. > :10:44.went too far and that it was entrapment. This was a very
:10:45. > :10:50.extraordinary case with Tulisa. He posed as an agent. He talked about
:10:51. > :10:54.drugs. She said she was tricked into getting a supplier. There have been
:10:55. > :10:58.other cases of Victoria Beckham, an alleged kidnapping, where the trial
:10:59. > :11:03.fell apart. A dirty terror bomb, the trial fell apart. This is
:11:04. > :11:07.potentially very serious. Does it reopen some of the questions which
:11:08. > :11:11.were raised during the Leveson Inquiry, which seems a long time
:11:12. > :11:18.ago? He used to work for the News of the World and it no longer exists.
:11:19. > :11:22.It might. One of the things that never and slightly obscured was that
:11:23. > :11:31.that was predominantly about phone tapping. -- that Leveson obscured.
:11:32. > :11:36.The perception was that was all, all of the sin was in the News of the
:11:37. > :11:40.World, no other tabloid was doing it, and it turned out Mirror group
:11:41. > :11:43.were right up to their necks with it and probably did more of it. We
:11:44. > :11:52.don't know that. But I take your point. And this one I think it is
:11:53. > :11:57.important again to note that what we have to have is an independent
:11:58. > :12:04.assessment of what is going on. One thing which is interesting is to
:12:05. > :12:14.what extent were the Met actually working with the so-called fake
:12:15. > :12:18.Sheikh. Was he a useful source? It's possible that they might have cut
:12:19. > :12:22.him some slack, maybe turned a blind eye because he was useful to them on
:12:23. > :12:28.certain investigations. Mark Lewis, who did many of the hacking cases,
:12:29. > :12:33.is acting on the half of 19 people who are aggrieved by this and think
:12:34. > :12:37.they have a good case for reopening. As more than that, very substantial
:12:38. > :12:44.damages. We may not have heard the last of the fake Sheikh. Let's look
:12:45. > :12:52.at some other stories. Teenage girls more likely to get drunk than boys.
:12:53. > :12:58.Thought we knew this. It was the ladette culture, but the OECD says
:12:59. > :13:06.it so it must be true. They are saying it is almost uniquely a UK
:13:07. > :13:10.problem. It is more of a problem amongst young girls than young boys.
:13:11. > :13:18.However it is important to put it into perspective. They are saying
:13:19. > :13:26.the figures have arrived even though drinking is going down nationally. I
:13:27. > :13:29.think the number in that age category is dropping. That's good.
:13:30. > :13:35.Some of the messages are getting through. Better than they are with
:13:36. > :13:38.the adults. Yes. Amongst those drinking too much among young girls,
:13:39. > :13:44.it is more likely to be British women who are better educated than
:13:45. > :13:52.those who are not. That's interesting. It belies problem
:13:53. > :13:56.drinking with more than 14 units per week. It is difficult or identify
:13:57. > :14:01.that. Do you think you drink more less 14 units per week? Less, sadly,
:14:02. > :14:08.but probably because I am here too often. At the very end of the
:14:09. > :14:15.Telegraph. Perhaps my favourite story of the night. It is about
:14:16. > :14:19.toads. Apparently they are in trouble. They've been dropping by
:14:20. > :14:23.nearly 70% over the last 30 years. Apparently it is due to the loss of
:14:24. > :14:29.ponds as well as pesticides. Not sure what the answer is. But we must
:14:30. > :14:32.do something to help. I used to have a toad called Gloria outside my flat
:14:33. > :14:39.until a friend of mine tried on her. Rather tragic. The common toad no
:14:40. > :14:40.more. What ever happened to pond life? Pleasure as always. Thank you
:14:41. > :14:42.for being here. Don't forget all the front pages
:14:43. > :14:44.are online on the BBC News website where you can read a detailed review
:14:45. > :14:47.of the papers. It's all there for you - seven days
:14:48. > :14:50.a week at bbc.co.uk/papers - with each night's edition
:14:51. > :14:54.of The Papers being posted on the page shortly
:14:55. > :15:12.after we've finished. a bit of a rut. It is a pattern that
:15:13. > :15:13.is fairly unusual