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:00:16. > :00:18.Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be

:00:19. > :00:22.With me are Rosamund Urwin, Columnist at The London Evening

:00:23. > :00:30.Standard and Jim Waterson, Political Editor of Buzzfeed.

:00:31. > :00:38.Before we hear what they have got to say, let's have a look through some

:00:39. > :00:41.of the main stories. The Daily Telegraph.

:00:42. > :00:45.on the front of the Telegraph - fresh from meeting MPs to explain

:00:46. > :00:47.why he believes those accused of sexual crimes

:00:48. > :00:52.The Metro leads on South Yorkshire Police's belief that missing toddler

:00:53. > :00:56.Ben Needham died in an accident on Kos on the day he

:00:57. > :01:03.Olympic boxing champion Nicola Adams is the Guardian's picture lead -

:01:04. > :01:06.The Iraqi Army's offensive to recapture Mosul from so-called

:01:07. > :01:21.The Times focus on claims that hundreds of millions of taxpayers

:01:22. > :01:28.money is being wasted by the Government on a failed scheme to

:01:29. > :01:33.help troubled families. First The Guardian and one of the lead

:01:34. > :01:40.stories, a big story that has emerged in the last few days, Ukip's

:01:41. > :01:46.front runner, Steven Woolfe, quitting the party. The disaster

:01:47. > :01:51.after the referendum for Ukip continues. There is a question of

:01:52. > :01:56.why does the party exist now? They would say they are needed to make

:01:57. > :02:00.sure Theresa May delivers the referendum result. She seems

:02:01. > :02:07.determined for Brexit to mean Brexit whatever that might mean. Well, she

:02:08. > :02:12.keeps saying it. We had Diane James leader for 18 days. And then

:02:13. > :02:19.obviously resign. And he is saying here that the party is ungovernable

:02:20. > :02:25.and it does haven't the referendum to unite it or have Nigel Farage at

:02:26. > :02:31.its head. And Nigel Farage is now back in his third stint as leader.

:02:32. > :02:35.But he is as far as I can on his way to the United States for another

:02:36. > :02:43.presidential debate. Or at least that was the plan a week ago. He was

:02:44. > :02:48.supposed to be in the Trump Tower. And the man who can just about hold

:02:49. > :02:52.the party together is in the United States. It was interesting here on

:02:53. > :02:59.BBC News, we had the chairman of Ukip saying it was a good day for

:03:00. > :03:03.Ukip with great things going on, a new dawn and another contender

:03:04. > :03:10.saying, Ukip's in a mess and we have a long way to go and Nigel Farage

:03:11. > :03:16.should have stuck around. He was keeping the party together. Even

:03:17. > :03:21.interviewing Ukip members you hear different points of view. There is

:03:22. > :03:26.the old golf club and Essex Kent original sort of base, that former

:03:27. > :03:29.Conservative voter and you have the former Labour voters who have come,

:03:30. > :03:35.particularly in the north of England. The idea was Steven Woolfe

:03:36. > :03:41.could take over from Nigel Farage who was better in the south and he

:03:42. > :03:45.was somebody who grew up in Mosside and win voters in former Labour

:03:46. > :03:48.seats. He after one leadership election he was kept out on a

:03:49. > :03:54.technicality and another ended up with him in hospital for various

:03:55. > :03:59.reasons, which are disputed, and he has decided I'm getting out. I think

:04:00. > :04:05.a lot of the other candidates, anyone of any quality in the party

:04:06. > :04:13.will go, do I want to be in charge of what is left of Ukip? If you

:04:14. > :04:19.voted for Brexit you are in an abyss, there is no real voice,

:04:20. > :04:23.Theresa May is talking about it, saying Brexit means Brexit. There is

:04:24. > :04:27.no opposition. Labour are also trying to sort themselves out. There

:04:28. > :04:31.has been no opposition or critical voice or scrutiny of what the

:04:32. > :04:37.Government's doing. It feels more like that if you voted remain, there

:04:38. > :04:44.is a feeling that 48% of people and Theresa May's speech offered nothing

:04:45. > :04:52.for us. But there is a question of who takes over. There are names

:04:53. > :04:59.being touted and Suzanne Evans is at the head. And Paul Nuttal. I am not

:05:00. > :05:05.sure Paul Nuttal wants to do it. He had a chance to do it and decided

:05:06. > :05:11.against it and it was partly he didn't fancy it. Neither did she as

:05:12. > :05:17.it turned out. No. So Suzanne Evans, who is good on TV and has done a lot

:05:18. > :05:23.of media work, but hasn't been mofr than a councillor. And has not been

:05:24. > :05:36.treated well... She is hated by the main donor. And the only candidate

:05:37. > :05:41.is from a niche web-site. No one was thinking about politics today if

:05:42. > :05:46.they were in Manchester. Everybody was thinking about Olympic gold and

:05:47. > :05:51.silvers and bronzes in the rain. It did rather rain on the parade.

:05:52. > :06:02.Nicola Adams looking very happy and wonderful. A lovely picture on The

:06:03. > :06:06.Guardian. Nicola Adams who did a big wander with selfies, disappeared, to

:06:07. > :06:12.make the most of the moment. As did Jessica Ennis-Hill. Also the main

:06:13. > :06:18.photograph on The Times, taking a selfie of the crowds. Their faces

:06:19. > :06:26.sum it up. It must be great and there must be that sort of strange

:06:27. > :06:34.hangover after the fun has gone and with Jessica Ennis-Hill, who is

:06:35. > :06:39.retiring and what do you do next and having to train and now you have

:06:40. > :06:42.nothing to do. I like they had a parade in Manchester rather than in

:06:43. > :06:50.London. I think they're coming here tomorrow. They're in Trafalgar

:06:51. > :06:58.square. And the two Manchester lad s who got on the bus with a fake medal

:06:59. > :07:06.and a fake jacket. Cameron back in the headlines, David Cameron wasted

:07:07. > :07:10.a billion on troubled families, the Government exaggerated the success

:07:11. > :07:15.of the project. I think David Cameron said 98% of families had

:07:16. > :07:20.been helped. That is quite an exaggeration. Yes, the David Cameron

:07:21. > :07:26.legacy getting another kicking. This scheme was to help what they

:07:27. > :07:33.determined, what they termed sorry, troubled families and the idea was

:07:34. > :07:39.to get adults off unemployment and top truancy and to stop people

:07:40. > :07:49.getting cautioned or committing offences. This was, it came off the

:07:50. > :07:54.2011 riots. Although there was a lot of people just kind of jumping on

:07:55. > :07:58.the bandwagon, there was clear anger and divisions in society and David

:07:59. > :08:02.Cameron said we are going to sort this out. But the idea you can

:08:03. > :08:08.change problems by chucking a billion quid which in the scale of

:08:09. > :08:14.things given the scale of the issues in terms of employment and some

:08:15. > :08:18.people not having jobs that could be suitable for people, the idea you

:08:19. > :08:22.can chuck money at it and within five years see any change is, it is

:08:23. > :08:27.one of the depressing things when you realise there is a limit to what

:08:28. > :08:33.politicians can do. They like to think with a billion they can change

:08:34. > :08:40.lives. But when it comes to deep structuralal things, none of us like

:08:41. > :08:47.to admit our limited abilities. It with auz tackling a -- it was

:08:48. > :08:53.tackling a wide range of issues. It was a team of independent analysts.

:08:54. > :08:59.I think local authorities identified the families and you had a key

:09:00. > :09:12.worker assigned, a social worker I assume, it was their duty to address

:09:13. > :09:18.the issues. Trying to reduce truancy is not perhaps helped by getting

:09:19. > :09:25.them to check in with someone. It is down to deep-roofted problems. 45%

:09:26. > :09:31.of families who went through the programme still claiming. The Daily

:09:32. > :09:44.Telegraph a picture of Sir Cliff Richard in a car with the BBC

:09:45. > :09:52.broadcaster Paul Gambaccini. Both of them and a lot of people wanting to

:09:53. > :09:58.see anonymity for those accused of sexual offences. You can understand

:09:59. > :10:04.why they're arguing for that. Both have endured a drawn out, painful

:10:05. > :10:12.process. That seemed very unfair and they have been trited poorly. --

:10:13. > :10:23.treated poorly. But I'm utterly opposed as are every women group who

:10:24. > :10:28.act to combat violence against women is opposed to anonymity for

:10:29. > :10:33.defendants. Part of system is transparency and police seeking

:10:34. > :10:42.corroborating evidence... But the police deny naming them. It is

:10:43. > :10:46.always leaked. The argument it helps with their inquiries, it is often

:10:47. > :10:54.dismissed, the police denied naming them. I do think we need openness in

:10:55. > :10:58.our, because for one thing it keeps the public having confidence in the

:10:59. > :11:02.legal system. I admit that is not a great system where it is picked up

:11:03. > :11:15.by the papers, rather than the police naming a suspect. But I think

:11:16. > :11:20.we forget the reason that accusers are granted anonymity is because

:11:21. > :11:26.they're a witness and often in cased this is, they're witness to the

:11:27. > :11:32.worst thing that will happen and the reason they were granted anonymity,

:11:33. > :11:40.was because so few women could come forward, because if they had to face

:11:41. > :11:47.this. But isn't the real issue false accusations, people that not only

:11:48. > :11:55.ruin the lives of people like Sir Cliff, but real victims who might

:11:56. > :12:00.not be believed. I cannot think of anything worse than having a false

:12:01. > :12:04.accusation. But on the basic level in every profile written about them

:12:05. > :12:10.it will always be mentioned. It might be a case where it is an

:12:11. > :12:15.unfortunate effect of a system where if you want to get prosecutions and

:12:16. > :12:21.get a culture where people come forwarder and I don't think having a

:12:22. > :12:25.cover up to keep prominent names out of the press is what would increase

:12:26. > :12:30.trust in the system that a lot of people don't trust. Part of the

:12:31. > :12:35.issue is when these things happen, it does get sensationalised and that

:12:36. > :12:40.creates a thing where it BPs even -- becomes and feels even more harmful

:12:41. > :12:46.to their reputation. The other thing is that not drag out so much. They

:12:47. > :12:50.point out a 22-monthings investigation into Sir Cliff

:12:51. > :12:57.Richard. That seemed to be excessive. Now a lighter story, the

:12:58. > :13:04.Daily Telegraph, get the winter weather, is this true? A year ahead

:13:05. > :13:07.from the Met Office? You're asking a political correspondent to predict

:13:08. > :13:13.anything a week ahead. Careful, there is still a lot of them in. I

:13:14. > :13:18.is a that myself. -- I say that myself. I don't want to know the

:13:19. > :13:23.weather a year in advance. I'm happy enough just walking out and working

:13:24. > :13:29.out what it is on the day. Apparently the Met Office can now

:13:30. > :13:35.using past weather patterns work out what it was in the past and what it

:13:36. > :13:41.will be in a year. It is great, you can plan your holidays. You would be

:13:42. > :13:48.so disappointed if you booked that one week... I missed some horrendous

:13:49. > :13:52.storm in 2013. You could plan your wedding and your Olympic parade. At

:13:53. > :13:56.the moment you take a punt and you're disappointed if it is not

:13:57. > :14:03.nice. If you thought that was the one or two day gap you would be

:14:04. > :14:12.distract. The producer's whispering, maybe it is only for Saudi Arabia.

:14:13. > :14:20.We will see. I have never known it to be possible to predict. The only

:14:21. > :14:23.man I have known is a guy called Pierce Corbyn, the brother of the

:14:24. > :14:30.Labour leader. I am not sure I believe him. And the Express. They

:14:31. > :14:39.always get it right! Thank you both very much. Thank you for joining us.

:14:40. > :14:44.All the front-pages are online on the BBC news web-site and you can

:14:45. > :14:54.read a detailed review of the papers.

:14:55. > :15:15.After a mild couple of days, the weather's on the change. We will see

:15:16. > :15:20.lower faechlts -- temperatures. That cold front is heading down from

:15:21. > :15:22.Scotland and Northern Ireland with some sharp busts of rain and a gusty