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:00:00. > :00:18.Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be

:00:19. > :00:22.With me are the Assistant Editor of the Times, Anne Ashworth

:00:23. > :00:25.and Tony Evans, sports columnist for the London Evening Standard.

:00:26. > :00:35.Not Monday, I am clearly a day out. The rioting was Friday, today's

:00:36. > :00:37.Saturday and these are tomorrow's newspapers.

:00:38. > :00:39.The Observer focuses on the Unite leadership battle,

:00:40. > :00:42.featuring an interview with the man challenging Len Mcluskey to head

:00:43. > :00:46.The Mail on Sunday leads with what it describes as the great

:00:47. > :00:49.foreign aid freeze, saying the government has agreed to halt

:00:50. > :00:51.new contracts after an investigation by the paper.

:00:52. > :00:54.The Sunday Times says the head of the rail union behind this week's

:00:55. > :00:57.industrial action has vowed to topple the Conservative government.

:00:58. > :01:00.The Sunday Telegraph also focusses on the unions,

:01:01. > :01:02.claiming Theresa May is facing pressure to curb

:01:03. > :01:08.The Express says the high street is heading for a record breaking

:01:09. > :01:31.The unions and in particular, the rail unions. This is a blast from

:01:32. > :01:35.the past, a braille -- rail boss threatening to bring down the union.

:01:36. > :01:44.Threatening environment, people taking increasingly difficult

:01:45. > :01:47.positions. In the papers today, the Sunday Times, the Sunday Telegraph,

:01:48. > :01:53.the pressure on the government to take on the unions. We are seeing

:01:54. > :01:59.that the strikes are not just about pay conditions and safety, they are

:02:00. > :02:08.about bringing down the Tory government, which I and not against.

:02:09. > :02:14.This in flames it. The situation has become increasingly... In the Sunday

:02:15. > :02:20.Telegraph, pressure from conservative MPs that go back to

:02:21. > :02:27.Thatcher ministers. Former ministers in her government now putting on

:02:28. > :02:33.pressure today. Putting pressure on Theresa May. We are moving in that

:02:34. > :02:38.way. Are there areas in which you would think that is acceptable? No,

:02:39. > :02:42.I don't think so. One of the things in Britain, for the best part of a

:02:43. > :02:48.century, pay and conditions improved for the right to strike and you take

:02:49. > :02:58.it away, it is a dangerous game. I am surprised with the huge emphasis

:02:59. > :03:02.on the front pages about unions. It is like they all rang each other up.

:03:03. > :03:09.There are so many other stories around. Let's not get ahead of

:03:10. > :03:15.ourselves, it is not 1978, not the winter of discontent. If you are a

:03:16. > :03:22.southern rail user it is aggravating and there will be hold-ups at

:03:23. > :03:27.airports. But it is not a general strike. An industrial strike of the

:03:28. > :03:31.1970s. The idea that politicians from former governments are trying

:03:32. > :03:35.to tell the Prime Minister this is what she should be addressing

:03:36. > :03:39.amongst all the other problems is, frankly, battling. The economy is in

:03:40. > :03:45.trouble because of many reasons. We have austerities, the banks, 2008,

:03:46. > :03:51.nearly brought down capitalism, lots of problems we should be worrying

:03:52. > :03:56.about. Frankly, the battle with the unions is not a big issue. The

:03:57. > :04:02.unions have spent years watching their membership diminished. They

:04:03. > :04:10.have seen their influence in politics and arguably the workplace

:04:11. > :04:12.diminished for different reasons. Changing contractual reasons, many

:04:13. > :04:21.reasons why it has been difficult for them. Suddenly, if they read the

:04:22. > :04:30.papers to -- tomorrow, they might think they matter. It is

:04:31. > :04:37.extraordinary but it is 1970s, bringing down the government. And

:04:38. > :04:43.then Mrs May being asked to crack down on the unions. The headline of

:04:44. > :04:49.the Telegraph, unions run rampant. That suggests there is more than

:04:50. > :04:54.just a strike on Southern Rail and possibly two days of action at the

:04:55. > :05:00.airports over Christmas. The impression is, not quite the enemy

:05:01. > :05:07.within but, people would think, where is this happening? Holding

:05:08. > :05:12.society to ransom and frankly I have not got the ransom note yet. It is

:05:13. > :05:18.very interesting, they don't bring out why they think Mrs May would be

:05:19. > :05:26.resistant to any legislation against strikes. Do you think she will be?

:05:27. > :05:30.She seems to be attuned to be ordinary person, middle Britain and

:05:31. > :05:34.there is some suggestion she feels that will be curbing important

:05:35. > :05:41.freedoms. I don't know what is on her mind but it seems to be she has

:05:42. > :05:48.some kind of sense, we do have the right to withdraw our labour. That

:05:49. > :05:55.is a crucial... Fundamental freedom. She will not be saying what the old

:05:56. > :06:00.guard may be doing, she doesn't want them pushing her around. You have a

:06:01. > :06:07.new Prime Minister who is uncertain on the way forward, who is

:06:08. > :06:11.ambivalent about Brexit and there is a bit of nervousness in the

:06:12. > :06:17.government going forward. The Tories trying to take advantage and make a

:06:18. > :06:23.move. I must say, I think there are other things happening. Iama bit

:06:24. > :06:29.baffled. We were shocked Aleppo was not on the front page. Lovely photo

:06:30. > :06:34.of the Prince of Wales and his mum. Very striking picture, beautifully

:06:35. > :06:38.lit. Gorgeously taken picture and the front-page picture is very

:06:39. > :06:46.important. A lot of time would have been taken to make sure they got the

:06:47. > :06:54.right one. No doubt they will ... They have all three are gentle

:06:55. > :07:07.winners of Strictly. Quite clever. The Royal Family to sell papers. We

:07:08. > :07:13.will move on to the Observer. The photograph, maybe not as spectacular

:07:14. > :07:17.as the Strictly photos or as regal as the royal one, but the man who

:07:18. > :07:20.will be the leader of the free world, in one month, no wonder he

:07:21. > :07:25.has something to smile about in front of the Christmas tree in

:07:26. > :07:34.borrowed. He will not give up on the thing of the missing drone. He wants

:07:35. > :07:43.to get, criticise China, prod them, he would like to work them up into a

:07:44. > :07:47.furious. It is a lot of sabre rattling. Do you think they

:07:48. > :07:54.understand that and say, it is OK, let him have his head. They do this

:07:55. > :07:57.stuff. We shouldn't worry. The fundamentals of our relationship and

:07:58. > :08:03.position, we don't have to worry about this guy. I think they would

:08:04. > :08:08.be very good about not taking him too seriously. He is posturing

:08:09. > :08:15.before he gets into power, playing to his power base. When it comes

:08:16. > :08:23.down to it he will need to be friendly with us. They will say, you

:08:24. > :08:28.want trouble, we will pull all the debt. It is interesting

:08:29. > :08:34.repositioning American policy to be anti- China and soft on Russia.

:08:35. > :08:39.Reagan, the axis of evil but the new axis, Russia and America. An

:08:40. > :08:50.intriguing thought. We move from Donald Trump two and international

:08:51. > :08:58.issue important back home. -- onto an international issue. Critical on

:08:59. > :09:02.something David Cameron did, the British budget going to foreign aid.

:09:03. > :09:07.They are investigating and have suggested there are examples where

:09:08. > :09:13.the money has been poorly used, at least the supervision of how it is

:09:14. > :09:19.spent is poor. As a consequence, some of the projects have not

:09:20. > :09:26.deserved it. I think there will be a great deal of relief, the money,

:09:27. > :09:31.finally scrutiny as to how it is spent and if it is going to worthy

:09:32. > :09:36.projects. The new argument this week as to whether a better way to spend

:09:37. > :09:43.some of the cash would be on care of the elderly. I think this is going

:09:44. > :09:49.to be a massive debate, issue in the new year. Is our aid being used

:09:50. > :09:55.properly, buying the influence it should buy, that is a crucial aspect

:09:56. > :09:59.of giving aid. There is a real risk when you get into that debate, the

:10:00. > :10:05.criticism that has been made of Priti Patel, a stronger relationship

:10:06. > :10:13.between the money spent on aid and the benefits of purchasing power,

:10:14. > :10:19.particularly ahead of wrecks it. We give you money, in return you by our

:10:20. > :10:27.stuff. That is not necessarily the best way to measure it. I think that

:10:28. > :10:32.might be true but people feel we are cash-strapped as a nation, we are a

:10:33. > :10:37.great philanthropic and charitable nation but want value for the money

:10:38. > :10:44.we spend overseas. It is an increasing sign of British

:10:45. > :10:49.isolationism. Wrecks it, spend the money here, that is fine but will it

:10:50. > :10:59.get spent here? The reality is we would hate for it to go to the

:11:00. > :11:06.begging bowl barons as the Daily Mail calls them. It is a sign that

:11:07. > :11:11.country is becoming more in chiller and I don't think it will benefit

:11:12. > :11:19.Britain long-term. You think whatever we might see as a benefit

:11:20. > :11:24.here, the perception of the outside world is negative. Back to the

:11:25. > :11:28.Sunday Times. We talked about unions. We can ignore that and talk

:11:29. > :11:36.about prisons. This is an interesting headline. Cold showers

:11:37. > :11:43.triggered jail riot. A depressing story, life was so bad. It was a

:11:44. > :11:49.fairly small thing, they couldn't get a hot shower. They are banged up

:11:50. > :11:56.plumbing goes, it is midwinter. It plumbing goes, it is midwinter. It

:11:57. > :12:01.always goes midwinter! It comes to the heart of what we think prison

:12:02. > :12:05.should be about, is it about rehabilitation or is it putting

:12:06. > :12:10.people in, more and more of them and not attempting to think we need to

:12:11. > :12:15.turn these people once more into decent members of society.

:12:16. > :12:26.Privatising prisons is madness. There is talk, Northumberland's

:12:27. > :12:29.prison is on a knife edge and problems elsewhere. We could be

:12:30. > :12:34.getting into a period of prison riots. It has been outsourced, the

:12:35. > :12:42.prisons. Money has been withdrawn from it. And there is no coherent

:12:43. > :12:46.policy. Abhi trying to punish them of all rehabilitate them? If we want

:12:47. > :12:50.to punish them, give them cold shower was but we are spending so

:12:51. > :12:57.much money on reasons and people come out and commit crimes again. It

:12:58. > :13:01.appears to be a your your relationship. We need to make sure

:13:02. > :13:09.people don't go back to prison after being there. Some businesses should

:13:10. > :13:15.be government controlled and prisons is one of them. I wonder if we are

:13:16. > :13:22.coming into a broader debate, aid and prisons, how our taxpayer money

:13:23. > :13:28.is spent, whether the strategy is right, whether it is piecemeal, no

:13:29. > :13:35.thought out doctrine behind the prison system. And I wonder whether,

:13:36. > :13:40.how this can be accomplished, by what means we could no if we are

:13:41. > :13:45.getting value. It was easy enough to bail out the banks, of course. One

:13:46. > :13:49.to ponder and we will ponder it by thinking about the photograph on the

:13:50. > :13:54.front of the Sunday Times. Lovely photograph. When you talk about the

:13:55. > :14:01.quality of colour photography in the newspapers these days, the vividness

:14:02. > :14:12.of Joanne Clifton's dress, she and our colleague at BBC News, Ore

:14:13. > :14:21.Oduba, have won Strictly. This picture, it exemplifies the Ginger

:14:22. > :14:25.Rogers and Fred Astaire quality that Ore had in his dancing, the moment

:14:26. > :14:31.of pure joy that dancing should bring. A tribute to a great light

:14:32. > :14:39.entertainment show that it should bring joy on what is a very dark and

:14:40. > :14:43.miserable time. I think you and Anne can replicate the picture over here.

:14:44. > :14:51.Would we have a few minutes more before we have to go to De Film

:14:52. > :14:57.Review? And there you go, he did. I suspect in a few minutes he will say

:14:58. > :14:58.he never looked back. Thank you very much.