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:00:14. > :00:17.Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be

:00:18. > :00:22.With me are Miranda Green from the FT and Christopher Hope,

:00:23. > :00:26.who's chief political correspondent at the Daily Telegraph.

:00:27. > :00:35.Good to see you both. Hello. Wait until you have finished the papers.

:00:36. > :00:39.You will not be saying that when I am finished with you, mate!

:00:40. > :00:40.The Daily Mirror has the banner headline,

:00:41. > :00:44.It quotes a source in the German police as saying the killer

:00:45. > :00:48.The Telegraph says there's a manhunt in Berlin and across Europe

:00:49. > :00:50.after the police admitted they'd arrested the wrong man.

:00:51. > :00:53.The Times leads on the manhunt for the killer too.

:00:54. > :00:55.It says the attack was the worst terrorist attack

:00:56. > :01:04.The Metro recounts the death of the lorry's legitimate driver,

:01:05. > :01:07.as he fought to try to stop the hijacker from

:01:08. > :01:22.The i says Europe is on a Christmas terror alert.

:01:23. > :01:25.It says British lorry drivers have been ordered to keep their cabs

:01:26. > :01:28.The Mail says "so much for peace on earth",

:01:29. > :01:30.as armed police guard the nativity scene at Canterbury Cathedral.

:01:31. > :01:32.The Express leads on a different story.

:01:33. > :01:35.It says Theresa May has refused to guarantee a vote in Parliament

:01:36. > :01:37.on the terms of Britain's exit from the European Union.

:01:38. > :01:40.The paper says MPs won't be able to block Brexit.

:01:41. > :01:46.I suspect the living men and women might have a different view of that,

:01:47. > :01:52.the members of the Supreme Court, that is. OK, the Daily Telegraph.

:01:53. > :01:59.This is the top story, obviously. Berlin manhunt as killer escapes,

:02:00. > :02:03.and the picture of Angela Merkel, Miranda, a single flower, paying her

:02:04. > :02:06.respects to the dead. That picture I suppose symbolising the weight of

:02:07. > :02:14.responsibility that she bears in her own mind, not just carrying this

:02:15. > :02:18.country at this time of such horrible tragedy, but also

:02:19. > :02:22.potentially for her policies and what some people are suggesting is

:02:23. > :02:32.her contribution to what may have happened? So that is right, and very

:02:33. > :02:35.striking image of a very stricken leader of a nation, trying to come

:02:36. > :02:39.to terms with another horrible terrorist attack in Germany, because

:02:40. > :02:43.of course over the summer there were terrorist attacks in Germany as

:02:44. > :02:51.well. But they did not claim lives. This was the first... That is right,

:02:52. > :02:56.but it is very distressing. Two news developments today, both of which

:02:57. > :02:58.features largely in the Telegraph splash. Firstly, it is claiming

:02:59. > :03:04.responsibility for the attack. Today. And also the awful revelation

:03:05. > :03:08.that the Berlin police seem to have arrested the wrong man, who they

:03:09. > :03:12.have released, and the killer is still at large. So there are fears

:03:13. > :03:16.there might be the attacks. But you're absolutely right. This focus

:03:17. > :03:20.on the individual stricken face of Angela Merkel, leader of the German

:03:21. > :03:26.government, is because they did think the man they had arrested, who

:03:27. > :03:30.they thought was responsible, was a refugee. He doesn't turn out to have

:03:31. > :03:33.been responsible for the attack but Merkel is under enormous pressure

:03:34. > :03:38.because of her policy of letting so many refugees from North Africa and

:03:39. > :03:42.the Middle East into Germany. A policy which she had to slightly

:03:43. > :03:45.reversed, but she is under attack, not only from political opponents on

:03:46. > :03:50.the right, but she is also under attack even from within her own

:03:51. > :03:54.governing coalition, and she faces a General Election next year. Yes,

:03:55. > :04:02.Christopher, if it does turn out not to have been a refugee responsible

:04:03. > :04:05.for this atrocity, some other faction or whatever, although

:04:06. > :04:08.Islamic State have claimed responsibility, does that take the

:04:09. > :04:14.pressure off? It does, and it is clear whether this photograph was

:04:15. > :04:17.taken after or before that, when it was discovered this guy was not the

:04:18. > :04:22.actual driver, but the weight of it is written on her face there. Yes,

:04:23. > :04:27.we will have to wait and see how it plays out, but, you know, she cannot

:04:28. > :04:32.be held responsible for a million people and all the things they do

:04:33. > :04:37.and there are criminals in every group... Nigel Farage thinks that

:04:38. > :04:40.she can. Yes, but the guy arrested was the wrong person, so that take

:04:41. > :04:44.something out of it in the short-term, but does not get away

:04:45. > :04:53.from an appalling story of loss of life in Berlin. Moving on to the i.

:04:54. > :04:58.Christmas terror... Christopher, yes, the ramifications for the whole

:04:59. > :05:04.of the continent now, particularly as this guy, one or two men, however

:05:05. > :05:07.many were involved, have now got away? It is interesting how the

:05:08. > :05:11.papers have treated the same story in different ways. The Telegraph

:05:12. > :05:16.using the manhunt, the dramatic thing, who is the guy who did it?

:05:17. > :05:21.The i going into moreover... Not as many words in the front, but making

:05:22. > :05:26.it into a British shopping seem to make it a British story. Interesting

:05:27. > :05:29.top line, about British lorry drivers ordered to keep their cabs

:05:30. > :05:33.locked at all times. Not quite clear whether this is in Britain or on the

:05:34. > :05:38.continent but either way, the world that we grew up in, didn't we, in

:05:39. > :05:45.the 1980s, every car could be a bomb? Now if any lorry... Every

:05:46. > :05:50.lorry seen as a potential murderous missile, inching out these new

:05:51. > :05:54.enemies everywhere now. I think that is absolutely right. The horrendous

:05:55. > :05:59.attack in Nice on the seafront earlier this year, that of course

:06:00. > :06:03.was a lorry which had been hijacked then rammed into the crowd. So it

:06:04. > :06:10.seems this is now one of the sort of array of techniques that terrorists

:06:11. > :06:15.will use, and it is very difficult to control, you know. In Nice, that

:06:16. > :06:21.is what we were all saying at the time. How can you control for which

:06:22. > :06:27.lorries on the road might be about to run a mock and drive straight

:06:28. > :06:30.through a crowd? It is incredibly difficult. Not just trucks. Islamic

:06:31. > :06:33.State have to go through their propaganda arm, soldiers of the

:06:34. > :06:38.caliphate, you true believers, do whatever you can to kill the

:06:39. > :06:44.infidel, use a knife, storms, push them over a cliff, rocks, use

:06:45. > :06:49.vehicles, do anything you can -- a knife, stones. It makes it

:06:50. > :06:52.incredibly difficult... To defend against, yes. And this security

:06:53. > :06:58.angle which I think all the papers will do more of this week, we, I

:06:59. > :07:04.think, here in the UK, because we have that whole generation where we

:07:05. > :07:06.were so used to the threat of IRA terrorism, we feel our security

:07:07. > :07:14.forces here are excellent, which of course they are, but the sort of

:07:15. > :07:17.phenomenon, Lone Wolf attacks, then claimed by Isis, soldiers of the

:07:18. > :07:20.caliphate, as you say, that is much more difficult to deal with than a

:07:21. > :07:24.terrorist organisation like the IRA structured like an army with a line

:07:25. > :07:30.of command and clear political objectives. This is totally

:07:31. > :07:33.different. Some people might disagree, but there were boundaries,

:07:34. > :07:42.particularly in their struggle as well. Yes, there were. Warnings and

:07:43. > :07:48.all the rest of it. The third bullet point, SES unit on stand-by, which

:07:49. > :07:58.of course, writing a different story... The SAS on stand-by by its

:07:59. > :08:04.nature -- SAS unit on stand-by. Yes, that is what it is for. Indeed. Any

:08:05. > :08:12.eventuality. OK, inside page of the Express. Which is Angela Merkel... I

:08:13. > :08:17.am being told we have lost the Express and we're going to go to the

:08:18. > :08:22.Times. The first picture of one of the victims. 12 people died,

:08:23. > :08:27.Miranda. This am a human face to this tragedy. That is right. -- this

:08:28. > :08:33.is a human face to the tragedy. When some kind of terrorist out bridge --

:08:34. > :08:37.over it like this happens, we get this in the news, what do we know?

:08:38. > :08:41.Then in the next 24 hours details emerge of the casualties are. 12

:08:42. > :08:46.people died, we think, but it could be more. There are still 14 people

:08:47. > :08:51.in a very bad state in hospital, so the death toll could rise even now,

:08:52. > :08:55.which is worrying to think about. But, yes, the Times has gone back on

:08:56. > :09:00.the first available photograph of one of the victims of the attack. An

:09:01. > :09:04.Italian young woman who is feared to be dead. It has not been confirmed

:09:05. > :09:09.but her phone was found at the scene. They are taking a bit of a

:09:10. > :09:13.risk in journalistic terms. Yes, they are. They are trying to sell

:09:14. > :09:18.tomorrow morning's news today, not easy in this era of news. They are

:09:19. > :09:23.thinking correctly photographeds will emerge tomorrow. By tomorrow

:09:24. > :09:26.night, there will probably be 12 passport sized pictures of people

:09:27. > :09:29.killed on the front page. They're trying to get ahead of the game and

:09:30. > :09:36.they have taken a risk there, because it may have been phone. How

:09:37. > :09:39.that says it... But I am sure they have made other checks to make sure

:09:40. > :09:44.it is OK to take the risk on the front page. Also have slightly

:09:45. > :09:47.different quotes in the Times story, which is interesting. A quote from

:09:48. > :09:53.Angela Merkel speaking about how Germany would not want to let go of

:09:54. > :09:56.what she calls the life we want to live in Germany, free, together and

:09:57. > :10:01.open. This is the other thing, you know. It is how far do you go in

:10:02. > :10:05.controlling a society and securing everything? Then they have won.

:10:06. > :10:10.Again, that is the conversation we used to have in the 1980s when the

:10:11. > :10:14.IRA were very active, this idea that you need to carry on with your life

:10:15. > :10:19.in a free society otherwise you are handing victory to the terrorists.

:10:20. > :10:23.Angela Merkel is making that point. Sure, I covered the Nice attacks,

:10:24. > :10:27.and people were flying in. I said this before. People were flying in

:10:28. > :10:34.the day afterwards to show solidarity, despite the atrocity,

:10:35. > :10:37.and the still palpable fear some people had that something might

:10:38. > :10:41.happen, yet people coming to show solidarity. The idea being that you

:10:42. > :10:46.do not let the terrorists win. OK, that is enough on Berlin. We will

:10:47. > :10:54.move onto the Express. My MPs will not be able to block Brexit,

:10:55. > :10:56.Christopher. -- why MPs. Is that a correct headline? Wishful thinking

:10:57. > :11:04.for the pro Minister. Theresa May was the senior -- with the senior

:11:05. > :11:11.German of all the select committees today who called the Liaison

:11:12. > :11:14.Committee. A big day for. Some of the skills David Cameron had, she is

:11:15. > :11:20.developing those, as she developed into the role of premised. What she

:11:21. > :11:23.said there was, to these MPs come on this committee, that they will not

:11:24. > :11:29.be able to block Brexit. That is the position at the moment but of course

:11:30. > :11:35.the Supreme Court, as you alluded to at the gaming, the hearing the case,

:11:36. > :11:38.and if actually they prescribed, yes, there could be a vote, and the

:11:39. > :11:42.House of Lords foot. She is having a go Nowell she can. Was quite

:11:43. > :11:47.interesting this afternoon, though, because Theresa May has become sort

:11:48. > :11:52.of mistress of the sex act, trying to let go of as little information

:11:53. > :12:02.about Brexit as she possibly can. -- mistress of the sphinx act. That

:12:03. > :12:07.phrase, "Negotiation is negotiation," a whole new

:12:08. > :12:14.meaningless phrase can play with... What does it mean? Nothing. That the

:12:15. > :12:17.end of the session with all these MPs the chairman rather ruefully

:12:18. > :12:20.thanked him for an interesting session, and she gave him a rather

:12:21. > :12:26.strange smile to say she was quite proud of herself for making it

:12:27. > :12:32.little interest as she could. David Davis, much more forthcoming? He

:12:33. > :12:35.basically says the most words without saying anything...

:12:36. > :12:42.LAUGHTER You does that all the time, but he

:12:43. > :12:47.has his brief. Say nothing! Yes, walk the walk, talk the talk, but

:12:48. > :12:51.don't do anything. But he does occasionally let something out,

:12:52. > :12:55.David Davis, which... And he is not slapped down by number ten Downing

:12:56. > :13:01.St in the same manner as other ministers when he does so. Given

:13:02. > :13:06.more leeway to test the ground with, I think, perhaps. Finally onto the

:13:07. > :13:10.Telegraph. I saw you come into the office tonight with a whole load of

:13:11. > :13:16.shopping bags, clearly prepped for Christmas. The story here is chaos

:13:17. > :13:19.in store for online shoppers over earlier Christmas deadlines. It is

:13:20. > :13:23.all but the shopping on the Internet. Of course because of rules

:13:24. > :13:26.about when shops will be open, they cannot be open on Christmas Day.

:13:27. > :13:30.They are on Boxing Day but know we all go online in this country, more

:13:31. > :13:33.than most countries, Christmas Day is now a shopping base, so that is

:13:34. > :13:40.what they are saying. Will there be a panic as they try -- is now a

:13:41. > :13:45.shopping day. A classic kind of before it happens story, I think. I

:13:46. > :13:51.think it is cold classic skier panic story. Honestly, as if people in the

:13:52. > :13:57.run-up to Christmas need to be sent into a panic about getting their

:13:58. > :14:04.shopping done in time -- scare panic story. We're all in a total panic

:14:05. > :14:09.already. Disk and body lifted by a department store, as our man,

:14:10. > :14:19.literally had never -- I had literally never seen a man as

:14:20. > :14:24.discombobulated in a department store as tonight, following over

:14:25. > :14:27.things and so on. Have you done all your shopping? The problem is I

:14:28. > :14:30.started such a long time ago there are so many mystery packages and I

:14:31. > :14:33.have no idea what is in them so I don't know if I am giving the right

:14:34. > :14:36.things to the right people. I have just bought a lot of stuff!

:14:37. > :14:41.LAUGHTER All right, you guys will be back in

:14:42. > :14:45.about 15 minutes, with some more stories behind the headlines. Many

:14:46. > :14:49.thanks for that. Do not forget all the papers and front pages will be

:14:50. > :14:52.online on the BBC News website where you can read detailed review of all

:14:53. > :15:02.of them. That is there for you seven days a week.

:15:03. > :15:08.Fair and you can see us there as well. Thank you to Miranda and

:15:09. > :15:12.Christopher and to all of you for watching. -- bbc.co.uk/papers, and

:15:13. > :15:22.you can see us there as well. Heavy weather on the way. Batten

:15:23. > :15:27.down the hatches. The wind is set to be the feature of the weather in the

:15:28. > :15:28.run-up to Christmas. It could be very