21/12/2016

Download Subtitles

Transcript

:00:19. > :00:21.Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be

:00:22. > :00:24.With me are Lucy Fisher, senior political correspondent

:00:25. > :00:26.for The Times and commentator Henry Bonsu.

:00:27. > :00:28.Tomorrow's front pages, starting with:

:00:29. > :00:31.The Telegraph leads on events in Berlin.

:00:32. > :00:34.The paper says the prime suspect for the massacre was under covert

:00:35. > :00:36.surveillance for months as a possible terrorist,

:00:37. > :00:38.until police let him slip through their grasp,

:00:39. > :00:45.Anis Amri stares from the front of the Metro.

:00:46. > :00:49.He's now said to be the most wanted man in Europe.

:00:50. > :00:51.The Times says the authorities suspected Amri of "preparing

:00:52. > :00:53.a serious crime endangering national safety" but red tape

:00:54. > :01:00.The i says the German authorities are under pressure after a series

:01:01. > :01:03.of blunders in their hunt for the killer.

:01:04. > :01:07.The FT pictures some of the suspect's different identities.

:01:08. > :01:10.Its main story is that the world's oldest bank is to be rescued

:01:11. > :01:15.The Guardian says Amri was known to multiple German

:01:16. > :01:31.And the Sun has a pun on the Queen's cold.

:01:32. > :01:39.Headline writers at the Sun have done better than that I'm afraid.

:01:40. > :01:45.Most wanted man in Europe, they now have a name and that's the face of

:01:46. > :01:48.their prime suspect in the Christmas market truck attack. The terrible

:01:49. > :01:52.thing is that he's had such a long head start in escaping after the

:01:53. > :02:00.German authorities held the wrong man overnight. Amir Anis. Tunisian

:02:01. > :02:03.failed asylum seeker. Turns out he's the master of disguise, already with

:02:04. > :02:09.six aliases, posing as a migrant from three different nations. He is

:02:10. > :02:19.clearly very... Practised at hiding his identity. Yeah. Yeah. Henry, the

:02:20. > :02:25.fact is, as Lucy points out, this man has had 24 hours, more than

:02:26. > :02:30.that, now, to evade capture. The German admitted that they got the

:02:31. > :02:33.wrong person. Yes. To begin with. And, clearly, there are a hell of a

:02:34. > :02:36.lot of questions the German authorities had got to answer in

:02:37. > :02:42.relation to this man. Because he was on their radar. And he's now on our

:02:43. > :02:47.radar. Because they hell of a lot is known about him. Usually, when we

:02:48. > :02:52.have the rest or the killing of a suspect when it came to the Paris

:02:53. > :02:55.attacks a year or so ago, we get all this information once the person has

:02:56. > :02:59.been killed or captured but we are getting all this while this guy is

:03:00. > :03:03.still on the run. We know he was in an Italian jail for four years and

:03:04. > :03:10.he managed to get into Germany under Angela Merkel's "Open door policy".

:03:11. > :03:13.They had him on their radar and let him slip through their grass, the

:03:14. > :03:18.difficulty seem to be the red tape. Then it needed be sure where he was

:03:19. > :03:23.from and that Tunisia would accept him. With the surveillance powers,

:03:24. > :03:28.the agent undercover in the Tunisian - Germany community or "Islamist"

:03:29. > :03:33.part of the Bellerin community or if he's gone across the border into the

:03:34. > :03:36.Netherlands in that community -- part of the Berlin community. It

:03:37. > :03:40.would appear at the German security services that they may not have the

:03:41. > :03:46.capacity to get on top of this. People are making comparisons with

:03:47. > :03:50.this country and the way we do things. That is unfair. Difficulties

:03:51. > :03:55.they face very difficult different to us on this island which we have

:03:56. > :04:00.been doing for many years. This man has had a head start. We know a huge

:04:01. > :04:04.amount about him but he is a man of many faces. Many faces. Front page

:04:05. > :04:08.of the Daily Telegraph. The Metro has a big headline and a big picture

:04:09. > :04:13.of the man but the Telegraph is a lot more detail. You talked about

:04:14. > :04:17.that, Henry. Lucy, the Telegraph goes on to say that the authorities

:04:18. > :04:21.in Germany couldn't deport him back to Tunisia because he didn't have a

:04:22. > :04:25.passport. They asked the Tunisian authorities for a passport and the

:04:26. > :04:31.passport arrived yesterday. I know. So many sliding doors scenario.

:04:32. > :04:36.Minute margins of time and circumstance. The fact he was under

:04:37. > :04:39.covert surveillance by the German authorities for so many months, it

:04:40. > :04:45.is awful to think he was on their radar' was involved in a robbery in

:04:46. > :04:50.a park and a bar brawl, never arrested. What would he have done to

:04:51. > :04:54.merit a four year sentence in Italy? Four sentence in every any European

:04:55. > :04:58.country, but to get that, you need to have done something serious. You

:04:59. > :05:02.need information share but a lack of it between European countries.

:05:03. > :05:05.Europol is meant to share this information.

:05:06. > :05:11.Is seems not to have been done. We saw the same thing last year with

:05:12. > :05:16.what happened in France. That's true. As you say, the problem is,

:05:17. > :05:19.sometimes you that when European authorities tried to deport them but

:05:20. > :05:22.if the home country doesn't want to take them back or doesn't accept

:05:23. > :05:28.they are of that nationality or origin, that can become difficult.

:05:29. > :05:31.Today, there is this detail that the passport had just arrived for him to

:05:32. > :05:36.go back. Maybe that affected his timing that he went and perform this

:05:37. > :05:40.atrocity before he knew he was about to be kicked out of Germany. If you

:05:41. > :05:46.are a host country and there is a possibility that you can deny that

:05:47. > :05:48.this man actually is a citizen of this country... Masi you're not

:05:49. > :05:54.going to want him. Why would you want this guy back in this country?

:05:55. > :05:57.We are assuming most of this is true. Remember, 24 hours ago we

:05:58. > :06:02.thought it was a Pakistani person. We still need to put that note of

:06:03. > :06:06.caution in. But apparently, he is a supporter of the people behind the

:06:07. > :06:12.Sousse terrorist attack which killed over 30 British people 18 months

:06:13. > :06:15.ago. Close links to a terror network. You'd think that in the

:06:16. > :06:21.interconnected world that we live in that these kinds of barriers might

:06:22. > :06:26.have been sorted out. You would think so. But one of the things

:06:27. > :06:31.about Germany, it prides itself, post-war, on being very... You know

:06:32. > :06:35.Germany. I've been to Germany many times, burning, Munich, Frankfurt.

:06:36. > :06:38.Germans pride themselves on being very open, tolerant. Which is why

:06:39. > :06:42.the extreme right has never gone beyond a few percentage points. Like

:06:43. > :06:45.in France. They don't want the Christmas market and the places

:06:46. > :06:53.where they gather in the centre of their squares to be corralled with

:06:54. > :06:56.heavy masonry, with gun toting police officers. People are saying

:06:57. > :07:00.this is the new normal, we've got to change. I've went to Westminster and

:07:01. > :07:06.it was noticeable, the uptake of police present even in London. That

:07:07. > :07:10.is the new reality, as you say. Changing the guard as well. Roads

:07:11. > :07:15.blocked off on the entrances. It is unthinkable. What is the most crazy,

:07:16. > :07:19.weird, unusual, outlandish thing that anyone can think of and you can

:07:20. > :07:22.be sure that some crazy person he wants to kill people will think of

:07:23. > :07:27.it. Lucy mentioned earlier that this man was a master of disguise.

:07:28. > :07:33.Multiple identities. Front page of the Financial Times. Four mugshots

:07:34. > :07:36.of him looking very different. In all of them.

:07:37. > :07:41.What right, he's got quite a fat chow hall look. Very gaunt and thin

:07:42. > :07:52.on the one next to him. Six different aliases. Three

:07:53. > :07:58.different nationalities. Tracking this man will be difficult. But what

:07:59. > :08:03.we have been talking about, how you have cross-border intelligence and

:08:04. > :08:06.security that joins up all the dots. European court rules, indiscriminate

:08:07. > :08:10.UK mass surveillance law to be illegal, Lucy. It's very

:08:11. > :08:15.interesting, the timing of this judgment given that we have just had

:08:16. > :08:19.this terror attack. The ECJ has ruled against this law that would

:08:20. > :08:22.allow the Home Office, the government, to keep the internet

:08:23. > :08:28.records and phone records of British citizens for 12 months. If you

:08:29. > :08:32.suspect someone of being involved in crime or serious crime or terror,

:08:33. > :08:36.instead of asking the authorities onwards looking to keep records, you

:08:37. > :08:40.can look back at what they've been looking at online or the website,

:08:41. > :08:44.not every web page but the general domain names. And the people they've

:08:45. > :08:47.been in contact with. This has been ruled illegal because it is so

:08:48. > :08:52.indiscriminate. The idea it is not targeted, you should not have these

:08:53. > :08:56.net trawls of data that affect every UK citizen when there is no

:08:57. > :09:00.suspicion. When you look at some of the departments that would have

:09:01. > :09:03.access to this, things like the Food Standards Agency, the gambling

:09:04. > :09:07.commission, you do think, as a British citizen, what I want these

:09:08. > :09:11.people looking at it? What's going on? It's one thing, an author body

:09:12. > :09:16.institution having access to this data but what about the individuals

:09:17. > :09:20.in those organisations, are they incorruptible? We have seen cases of

:09:21. > :09:23.police officers when they are upset with journalists, a journalist was

:09:24. > :09:28.investigating a police department and a police officer used his access

:09:29. > :09:32.to go after the generalist. It is the indiscriminate nature of this

:09:33. > :09:38.mass surveillance that the ECJ is exercised about? That's right. One

:09:39. > :09:42.of the most fascinating details about this case is that it was

:09:43. > :09:48.originally brought by David Davis, Tory MP while on the backbenches, he

:09:49. > :09:52.was a champion of Civil liberties. But as of Civil Liberties. David

:09:53. > :09:56.Davis Spartacus. But he quietly withdrew from the action and kept a

:09:57. > :10:01.low profile. Exactly. This is not going to matter when we leave the

:10:02. > :10:05.European Union. It might do. Final paragraph says that this decision

:10:06. > :10:08.will pose a problem for London as EU rules, bear in mind we have been

:10:09. > :10:12.talking about terrorism, do not allow exchange of personal data with

:10:13. > :10:18.countries that do not comply with its privacy regime. If we continue

:10:19. > :10:21.with this, after 2020, we have left European Union but it might not

:10:22. > :10:25.have, we might not be able to get the Europol type thing. Do you know

:10:26. > :10:32.something we don't? Have you got a hotline to Theresa May? No. There we

:10:33. > :10:39.are. All right, let's go on to the daily. This made all of us, all of

:10:40. > :10:47.our ears prick up when we heard this, the health scare for the Queen

:10:48. > :10:52.and Prince Philip. It's amazing, really. For me, this idea that she

:10:53. > :10:57.had a heavy cold which stopped her going to Sandringham, they do this

:10:58. > :11:02.every year. It just shows that given the Queen is 90 and Prince Philip is

:11:03. > :11:05.95, it shows how ready they get ill. Public servers, all the travelling

:11:06. > :11:08.they do, all the people they have to meet and come across the germs that

:11:09. > :11:13.might be transmitted quite resilient. All those little kids

:11:14. > :11:20.with posies! Lucy! That's a horrible thing to say! A bit of diversity

:11:21. > :11:27.might help the Jean Paul. What's wrong with the Jean Paul? I'm not

:11:28. > :11:33.saying that. -- what's wrong with the gene pool? They are both unwell.

:11:34. > :11:37.This train from King 's Lynn, they get driven to King's Lynn from

:11:38. > :11:43.Buckingham Palace. The armed protection. And then all the way up

:11:44. > :11:46.to Sandringham. Yeah. They will make another decision tomorrow, maybe. If

:11:47. > :11:52.they've got over it a bit they will go. It could be as late as Christmas

:11:53. > :11:58.eve. But it's a big thing. That's when I head off to the West Country

:11:59. > :12:02.or the Midlands. I go to Manchester. You go to Manchester. They go to

:12:03. > :12:08.Norfolk, the family get together and it is important. Absolutely. To miss

:12:09. > :12:12.that would be a shame. A day or two ago, the Queen quietly disengaged.

:12:13. > :12:18.Not quietly, because it was reported by Nicholas Witchel quietly. That's

:12:19. > :12:22.his job. Thanks, Nick. She's dropped 25 charities that she was patron of.

:12:23. > :12:28.She will no longer be a patron. Those patronises will go to some of

:12:29. > :12:33.the other members of the family. -- those patronises

:12:34. > :12:42.The advisers to Theresa May are almost as much as she does. Fiona

:12:43. > :12:48.Mill and Nick Timothy, they are both on ?140,000 per year, we have

:12:49. > :12:51.learned today, only 6% less than the Prime Minister herself on round

:12:52. > :12:56.about 149. I have been digging around today in all the records. I

:12:57. > :13:00.was interested to find that there are 400 civil servants who earn more

:13:01. > :13:06.than 150 K per year. I always thought the civil service was a bit

:13:07. > :13:12.less well than that. As you reach the top earner. Is that a case of

:13:13. > :13:16.our civil servants and special advisers earning too much or the

:13:17. > :13:20.Prime Minister earning too little? That's a good question. The Prime

:13:21. > :13:27.Minister and too little. David Cameron in an act of mea culpa cut

:13:28. > :13:31.down the salary from 160 or so to 145. But the president of the United

:13:32. > :13:39.States and about $400,000, post Brexit is about... 300 p! That was a

:13:40. > :13:47.joke, not a statement! It was a joke! It's over, it's over! What are

:13:48. > :13:50.you trying to say? Maybe the Prime Minister, considering the

:13:51. > :13:54.responsibility... Have come a bunch of MPs haven't complained about

:13:55. > :13:59.this? Because they want a pay rise. They are about to award themselves a

:14:00. > :14:07.pay rise. 10%, isn't it? They are coming onto just under ?75,000. Some

:14:08. > :14:11.MPs called me about this case today. MPs are unhappy there are 17

:14:12. > :14:14.advisers in number ten who are earning more than them on their

:14:15. > :14:18.basic pay. They think that's a bit unfair. Not necessarily the top

:14:19. > :14:25.people like the chief of staff but when you go down the grade and

:14:26. > :14:29.you've got right people advising London and what haircut to have. It

:14:30. > :14:35.is a privilege of doing your job, being a public servant in the most

:14:36. > :14:40.direct way. That's what I should have told them. That's exactly what

:14:41. > :14:44.you should have said. Thank you both for looking at the papers. You will

:14:45. > :14:48.be back in about 50 minutes. Do it all again. Looking at the headlines

:14:49. > :14:52.again and some of the other ones will have come in. Many, many thanks

:14:53. > :14:54.to you and thanks to you for watching. Stay with us, the

:14:55. > :14:55.headlines are coming