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:00:14. > :00:21.Everything is a bit late in tonight, so we will see how we can do! We

:00:22. > :00:36.will be taking a look at tomorrow's papers shortly, hopefully.

:00:37. > :00:41.Theresa May has refused to say whether she knew about a failed

:00:42. > :00:43.Trident missile test when MPs were voting to renew

:00:44. > :00:46.I have absolute faith in our Trident missiles -

:00:47. > :00:49.when I made that speech in the House of Commons what we were talking

:00:50. > :00:51.about was whether or not we should renew our Trident.

:00:52. > :00:54.Trade, Nato and Brexit are likely to be high on the agenda

:00:55. > :00:57.when the Prime Minister meets Donald Trump this Friday.

:00:58. > :00:59.President Trump and his White House team have launched a furious

:01:00. > :01:01.attack on the media, accusing them of lying

:01:02. > :01:04.about the size of the crowds at his inauguration on Friday.

:01:05. > :01:07.A court in Iran rejects an appeal against a five-year prison sentence

:01:08. > :01:09.given to a woman with dual British and Iranian citizenship accused

:01:10. > :01:20.Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be

:01:21. > :01:34.With us, broadcaster Natalie Haynes and Deputy political editor of the

:01:35. > :01:37.Independent Rob Merrick. Luckily I remembered where you both work

:01:38. > :01:50.because it was not written down on my autocue! We are starting so well.

:01:51. > :01:53.Are we dealing with plain facts tonight? Yes, plain facts. I am so

:01:54. > :01:55.glad! The Financial Times leads with more

:01:56. > :01:57.reaction to the Trump administration's hard line

:01:58. > :01:59.against what they are calling The i says the prime

:02:00. > :02:02.minister's post-Brexit plan The Daily Express has claims

:02:03. > :02:06.from a leading Brexit campaigner that up to a million EU migrants may

:02:07. > :02:09.head to the UK over The Metro says Theresa May is ready

:02:10. > :02:13.to challenge President Trump over sexist remarks when she meets him

:02:14. > :02:19.at the White House on Friday. The Telegraph says a free trade deal

:02:20. > :02:22.with the United States is likely to open the door to US jobs

:02:23. > :02:27.for British workers. The Times reports that rural

:02:28. > :02:29.enterprises will be the biggest losers in upcoming business rate

:02:30. > :02:33.rises in England. And the Daily Mail claims terrorists

:02:34. > :02:36.and criminals are able to travel to Britain without crossing border

:02:37. > :02:44.control because of a loophole Would you be surprised if I said we

:02:45. > :02:50.were going to start with Donald Trump? The Financial Times. Trump

:02:51. > :02:54.sets tone for presidency with attacked and dishonest media. We of

:02:55. > :02:58.course got to see that last night on the News Channel when that press

:02:59. > :03:15.conference took place, the press briefing. Sean Spicer, a man we will

:03:16. > :03:24.get to know the well, I am sure. An interesting press briefing. Yes,

:03:25. > :03:28.perhaps contrary to popular opinion what the spokesperson tries not to

:03:29. > :03:35.do in Britain is to live. They might not tell you the whole truth. The

:03:36. > :03:41.obscure the truth, of Christ -- not do in Britain is to li. They do not

:03:42. > :03:45.want to be caught lying because that is devastating and their reputation

:03:46. > :03:52.a shot. We will not have the same ability to speak to the media again

:03:53. > :03:58.-- the obscure the truth, of course. This person has walked in and told E

:03:59. > :04:06.Bald lie about the inauguration and I guess this is just the new

:04:07. > :04:10.reality. Kellyanne Conway, his adviser, you know, if you wanted to

:04:11. > :04:13.say it was the most watched inauguration, that is probably true

:04:14. > :04:18.because of the people watching online and on TV, but not

:04:19. > :04:23.necessarily there in person. Yes, an alternative two facts, I guess, like

:04:24. > :04:27.an alternative medicine. Once it has been tested, it is just medicine.

:04:28. > :04:34.That is the route they have gone with and it is a strange choice.

:04:35. > :04:37.Partly of course there is a vague sense of delight something so

:04:38. > :04:41.horrendous could happen. This press briefing, where it is not just one

:04:42. > :04:45.thing that has gone wrong but ten things. The National Parks hadn't

:04:46. > :04:49.given the numbers because they don't, the Metro at given numbers

:04:50. > :04:55.because something was wrong, it was the first time they put white stuff

:04:56. > :04:59.on the floor and that meant they had to be less people. Any screenwriter

:05:00. > :05:06.with tell you with the five excuses, it sounds a lot less convincing than

:05:07. > :05:09.it was before there is something compelling about watching somebody

:05:10. > :05:12.lie in that incredibly barefaced fashion except that anyone who has

:05:13. > :05:16.lived under an authoritarian regime will tell you, and indeed whether or

:05:17. > :05:20.not you want to believe them, you can suddenly go back to your George

:05:21. > :05:25.Orwell, that the trick of an authoritarian regime is to persuade

:05:26. > :05:29.people that even incredibly inane things, however many fingers he is

:05:30. > :05:34.holding up, reading it at school, even a benign thing you can be made

:05:35. > :05:39.to lie about, so you see four fingers but say five. Even just

:05:40. > :05:43.using the word lie makes me slightly anxious. Because we do not call it

:05:44. > :05:47.that, do we? We have a whole range of different words for it, but no

:05:48. > :05:52.people are becoming emboldened. This is not a great way for this

:05:53. > :05:55.relationship to have started. If press briefings are going to prevent

:05:56. > :06:02.journalists from asking questions, if -- there is already such a

:06:03. > :06:07.terrible breakdown between the White House and the media, but where to

:06:08. > :06:12.start. During the Iraq war Saddam have a spokesman who would stand up

:06:13. > :06:20.and help barefaced lies about how Iraqi troops were about to defeat

:06:21. > :06:24.the Americans and of course he got a nickname, Comical Ali. What you are

:06:25. > :06:29.right. As a starting point between Trump and the press, you would think

:06:30. > :06:34.it would be disastrous, but of course Trump boasts of that, his

:06:35. > :06:37.millions of Twitter followers, he will carry on with that and he hopes

:06:38. > :06:41.to community directly with them in a way that combines the traditional

:06:42. > :06:47.media which has left rates than it used to. Sorry to have Cotten,

:06:48. > :06:53.Twitter users number about 16% of people in the UK and I guess it is

:06:54. > :06:55.roughly similar in the USA -- sorry to have cut in. Quite a small

:06:56. > :07:03.minority of people. The piece that stood out for me today was that long

:07:04. > :07:07.post put out by the great American elder statesman of American

:07:08. > :07:10.broadcasting, basically saying that the Washington press corps better

:07:11. > :07:14.get its act together and that they need to be challenging. If they are

:07:15. > :07:18.not getting answers from the White House they need to challenge other

:07:19. > :07:22.Republicans and they need to ask those questions over and over again.

:07:23. > :07:25.I think a lot of us thought that with Donald Trump's press conference

:07:26. > :07:32.a couple of weeks ago when he shut down CNN. It was CNN, wasn't it? And

:07:33. > :07:35.I know it goes against the grain for journalists to band together as

:07:36. > :07:39.opposed to a skidding each other but the right thing for the next person

:07:40. > :07:48.to do was to ask this CNN question and if they do not band together it

:07:49. > :07:52.will be divide and rule -- as opposed to out-scooping each other.

:07:53. > :07:56.I think a scientist today said journalists need to teach people to

:07:57. > :08:02.think critically. If you are cut off that is very difficult, as you say,

:08:03. > :08:06.so it needs to be a collective effort. But it is forensic stuff,

:08:07. > :08:13.being dog-eared, keep asking that same question. And we are often very

:08:14. > :08:16.quick to decry war on another type of news organisation, this is fake

:08:17. > :08:20.news, these ones are OK, this one is bad, but across the board this

:08:21. > :08:26.morning American broadcast media were criticising, even Fox News,

:08:27. > :08:35.they were seeing, these are not lies. I wonder how unhelpful the

:08:36. > :08:40.Buzzfeed reports were, because did into anybody's Hans? He could see it

:08:41. > :08:45.is fake news put out to discredit me. That does not help of a

:08:46. > :08:50.journalists, does it? I think you're probably right. To publish those

:08:51. > :08:53.allegations when he couldn't be proved, yes, it gave him some

:08:54. > :08:57.ammunition to say, look at this, they cannot prove it. Another thing

:08:58. > :09:00.that gets to me about today's events, the worrying thing, not

:09:01. > :09:04.stepping away from his relationship with the press, it is just his

:09:05. > :09:07.priorities. You mentioned his visit to the CIA yesterday and I read

:09:08. > :09:11.about that on the way in and of course he has had this bust up with

:09:12. > :09:16.the intelligence services... He says he holds them in incredibly high

:09:17. > :09:20.regard. But also it was just a bizarre ramble. The whole speech,

:09:21. > :09:24.going into... Getting into the crowds, how much they loved him, how

:09:25. > :09:31.wonderful it was, speaking about the fact it had stopped raining, when it

:09:32. > :09:35.hadn't... His mindset, it seems to be that, doesn't it, people love me,

:09:36. > :09:39.a success, fantastic? He is still running a campaign, isn't he?

:09:40. > :09:46.Instead of focusing on other things. Not realising he has won. Not

:09:47. > :09:49.governing. Let's look at the Metro. It is interesting how journalists

:09:50. > :09:58.will have to deal with this new way of governing. The Metro. This is the

:09:59. > :10:04.claim that Theresa May will say the difficult things she needs to see if

:10:05. > :10:06.she feels it is appropriate. I'm no Pussycay, challenging things Donald

:10:07. > :10:12.Trump has said that our offensive. But she has to get the deal for

:10:13. > :10:16.trade and Nato and the really serious things? Go for it. I was

:10:17. > :10:20.going to say, I think there are a few things in the question, before

:10:21. > :10:23.she got to the point where she said she would not be afraid to challenge

:10:24. > :10:28.Donald Trump. Do we really think she will sit in the Oval Office with

:10:29. > :10:34.Donald Trump and speak about his misbehaviour? She might do, but the

:10:35. > :10:38.thing is what we think is a robust sort of approach gets somewhat

:10:39. > :10:47.piloted in diplomatic language, necessarily, doesn't it? -- gets

:10:48. > :10:51.somewhat diluted. And we have to bear in mind that Americans think

:10:52. > :10:55.that about the British anyway. They think we spend our whole time

:10:56. > :11:03.apologising and drinking tea, that is our whole thing. They basically

:11:04. > :11:09.think we are Dowton Abbey. So she will be, who, Maggie Smith? A lovely

:11:10. > :11:14.completely baffling women from another universe as opposed to a

:11:15. > :11:18.relevant one, our best scenario. Trump said she would be his Margaret

:11:19. > :11:24.Thatcher. Again, you start to not believe anything in the end. Perhaps

:11:25. > :11:27.he believes that but the fact of the matter remains we are really little

:11:28. > :11:30.country in relation to them and they see us as a sort of occasionally

:11:31. > :11:39.adorable but sometimes irritating, you know, ancient aunt. But we might

:11:40. > :11:47.be in for a decent trade deal. The Daily Telegraph saying it will open

:11:48. > :11:53.the door to US jobs? As the door closes on the EU the open on

:11:54. > :11:58.opportunities in the States? Does my face betray my attitude to that? It

:11:59. > :12:03.does, I am afraid. Do you know about the chlorine and the chickens? Is

:12:04. > :12:07.this some sort of code message? LAUGHTER

:12:08. > :12:11.The myth is the EU did not want, or did not try hard enough to sign a

:12:12. > :12:15.free-trade deal with America, and we will try harder and get one and we

:12:16. > :12:19.will be incredibly rewarded, but one of reasons why the reported trade

:12:20. > :12:22.deal with the EU collapsed is because the EU does not want to do

:12:23. > :12:26.everything America wants it to do in a so-called free trade deal and that

:12:27. > :12:29.means to accept much more environmental standards that they

:12:30. > :12:34.have in America, much lower food safety standards... Which is how we

:12:35. > :12:38.get to the chlorine and the chickens? Anyone who has eaten that

:12:39. > :12:45.in America says it is terrible, full of sugar, and the outgoing Vice

:12:46. > :12:49.President Joe Biden says he is not going to sign anything not wanted by

:12:50. > :12:54.the chicken farmers in Delaware. The fact is they are to lazy to worry

:12:55. > :12:58.about food standards all the way down the line to the supermarket

:12:59. > :13:03.shelf like we do in Britain. That is a very big claim. I heard it from a

:13:04. > :13:07.top politician. What they do is sit these chickens in chlorine, in

:13:08. > :13:10.bleach, then send them out and they eat that in America X Factor I am

:13:11. > :13:13.not saying chickens is the biggest part of a potential trade deal but I

:13:14. > :13:21.think it is indicative of the sort of thing we might be persuaded,

:13:22. > :13:23.forced, to do, to accept much lower standards in Britain than the

:13:24. > :13:26.currently accepted cause we are so desperate to sign a trade deal with

:13:27. > :13:30.Trump -- then they eat them in America. I am not saying. My

:13:31. > :13:30.apologies if you are a chicken reader!

:13:31. > :13:44.LAUGHTER -- chicken-rearer. I am delighted

:13:45. > :13:52.not to eating chicken for 29 years, all I can say. The i exclusive,

:13:53. > :13:57.Theresa May's plan to reboot British industry. How will this happen? She

:13:58. > :14:04.is taking the cabinet out of London on an away day, to Warrington, run

:14:05. > :14:08.to get across the point I suppose it is not all that London. And the idea

:14:09. > :14:12.that she has other ideas to remake the country, not all about Brexit.

:14:13. > :14:20.Completely separate to the European debate and tomorrow is the turn of

:14:21. > :14:25.changing our traditional focus on the universities above all else and

:14:26. > :14:28.trying to create a higher skilled workforce for the post Brexit

:14:29. > :14:31.challenges ahead. Very good, Robert. I was not supposed to ask you about

:14:32. > :14:36.that story, was it? LAUGHTER

:14:37. > :14:40.It is very good. I threw that at you with no warning and off UN! Let's

:14:41. > :14:48.deal with the ?40 billion question of the Trident cover-up as well.

:14:49. > :14:52.Entirely my fault. -- off you went. This was in the newspapers last

:14:53. > :14:58.night. Why did Parliament not know? Why were they not told? This missile

:14:59. > :15:03.that went slightly astray. Always a phrase you want to hear, isn't it?

:15:04. > :15:09.In close proximity to the word missile, slightly astray! Towards

:15:10. > :15:12.America. In any direction would have been bad! America, that would

:15:13. > :15:14.obviously have been particularly embarrassing with her going there

:15:15. > :15:18.this week but it would have of course been bad going in any

:15:19. > :15:24.direction whatsoever, I would suggest! This do these tests, to

:15:25. > :15:29.find out. Why should we be too concerned? They will work out what

:15:30. > :15:33.was wrong with the telemetry. We are setting the bar quite low for things

:15:34. > :15:41.we would like to go right! On the BBC, I heard them declare it as a

:15:42. > :15:46.success, the MoD! Did I hear that? They have absolute confidence in the

:15:47. > :15:51.system. As far as everyone voted to buy new and more expensive ones

:15:52. > :15:54.which probably will not go astray. Probably why they are ?40 billion.

:15:55. > :15:58.Time and we do these tests every three or four mag years, so we have

:15:59. > :16:04.not done another one since. -- and we do these tests. An extraordinary

:16:05. > :16:10.situation. I do not know how many people watched that this morning but

:16:11. > :16:13.Andrew Marr, he had her squirming, Theresa May. Her refusal to answer

:16:14. > :16:16.the question came back to bite her and she looked very shifty. Four or

:16:17. > :16:21.five times she refused to say whether she knew this Trident launch

:16:22. > :16:26.had misfired. Doing what we all have to do, keep asking the question! If

:16:27. > :16:34.you want to stay healthy, don't Brown to coast, although the Daily

:16:35. > :16:38.Telegraph says it is a row over brown toast and crispy roast potato

:16:39. > :16:42.cancer. What is the problem? What are we not meant to do now? We are

:16:43. > :16:48.meant to have lovely golden toast and not crispy brown toast and

:16:49. > :16:52.lovely golden potatoes rather than brown and crunchy ones because of

:16:53. > :16:58.carcinogens when everything is crunchy. Do feel free to note the

:16:59. > :17:04.Times headline does not say what you should have is non-brown toast,

:17:05. > :17:09.which more of us know by its more ordinary name, bread. And your

:17:10. > :17:15.potatoes cannot be too fluffy because it creates more of a surface

:17:16. > :17:23.area? And no crisps either. Oh, dear. I had a crispy roast potatoes

:17:24. > :17:29.I have ever had and they were also the nicest so I do not think that

:17:30. > :17:34.will change. I think we all treat these cancer stories with a pinch of

:17:35. > :17:40.salt. A pinch of salt! If that is not too unhealthy. Oh, dear, let's

:17:41. > :17:42.have a bag of crisps. Before you go, these

:17:43. > :17:48.front pages have come -- Don't forget, all the front pages

:17:49. > :17:52.are online on the BBC News website where you can read a detailed review

:17:53. > :17:54.of the papers. It's all there for you, seven days

:17:55. > :17:57.a week, at bbc.co.uk/papers, and you can see us there too,

:17:58. > :17:59.with each night's edition of the Papers been posted

:18:00. > :18:02.on the page shortly Now it's time for Meet the Author,

:18:03. > :18:06.and Jim Naughtie talks