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:00:15. > :00:18.Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be

:00:19. > :00:21.With me are the Guardian's Chief leader writer Randeep

:00:22. > :00:23.Ramesh and Lucy Fisher, Chief Political Correspondent

:00:24. > :00:33.Good to have you both. Let's look at the front pages.

:00:34. > :00:34.Fortress America is the Metro's headline -

:00:35. > :00:37.after President Trump signed an executive order to build a wall

:00:38. > :00:41.The i previews Theresa May's upcoming visit to the United States,

:00:42. > :00:46.with the paper describing it as "tricky".

:00:47. > :00:48.The Guardian says the Prime Minister will seek a "special deal"

:00:49. > :00:51.with the new president during what the paper calls

:00:52. > :00:56.The FT says Donald Trump's moves on infrastructure and deregulation

:00:57. > :01:03.have reignited investor confidence in the US economy.

:01:04. > :01:10.The Times has an RAF Typhoon escorting a Russian aircraft carrier

:01:11. > :01:12.through the English Channel on its way back from deployment in Syria.

:01:13. > :01:15.According to the Telegraph, Southern Rail could be temporarily

:01:16. > :01:17.renationalised under government plans to deal with delays

:01:18. > :01:20.And finally, the Express says mushrooms could be a vital tool

:01:21. > :01:35.We will not be looking at that front page. We shall go to the Metro.

:01:36. > :01:40.Fortress America, Trump signs the order for the Mexico wall set to ban

:01:41. > :01:47.migrants from seven nations. Holding true to his promise? Absolutely,

:01:48. > :01:54.quite a surprise for many commentators who thought he would be

:01:55. > :01:57.more moderate. Within a matter of days, he has signed a number of

:01:58. > :02:05.executive orders and as well as building the small, it is unclear

:02:06. > :02:11.how this will be paid for. He said that torture works, he has lifted

:02:12. > :02:16.the ban on CIA blackspot presents... Well... I discussion paper suggests

:02:17. > :02:24.that he was going to ask the security services to look into

:02:25. > :02:29.whether it might be worth that. The White House has made clear it is not

:02:30. > :02:35.a White House document. But he said torture works. There is a signal of

:02:36. > :02:43.intent, paving the way. They are putting this up there as a kite?

:02:44. > :02:46.That is what people think. And there is this outlandish investigation

:02:47. > :02:58.into voter fraud, which seems slightly bizarre given that he has

:02:59. > :03:07.one. There are lot of peeves coming from Mr Trump since the top job. And

:03:08. > :03:11.he won the election, he got the requisite college votes, electoral

:03:12. > :03:17.College votes, why is he worrying about voter fraud? Fortress America,

:03:18. > :03:22.building this wall, building this wall, this man has not pivoted to

:03:23. > :03:30.the kind of President that many people thought he might have done

:03:31. > :03:34.now that he is in the Oval Office? Yes, he campaigned in mendacity and

:03:35. > :03:42.will govern in moderation. Sticking true to what he is, he has a divider

:03:43. > :03:46.not a unifier, his base wants to hold on to those pledges about

:03:47. > :03:51.closing immigration, shutting down trade with the rest of the world and

:03:52. > :03:57.fighting radical Islam, as he describes it. In many ways these are

:03:58. > :04:00.the kind of darker sides of Donald Trump's Presidency which she is

:04:01. > :04:07.unleashing. It is what people voted for? It is what they wanted? The

:04:08. > :04:11.majority of Americans did not vote for him, the electoral college gave

:04:12. > :04:17.him that. It is a system that he won as no one says he is an illegitimate

:04:18. > :04:25.President. Actually, many people are! You're not. His paranoia is

:04:26. > :04:32.more troubling, a person who gets upset about a discussion about his

:04:33. > :04:34.inauguration crowds and then instructs his press spokesperson

:04:35. > :04:40.tonight to members of the press on the first day of his Presidency is a

:04:41. > :04:44.person who is probably too thin-skinned for high office. He

:04:45. > :04:49.might grow a thicker skin but he would help all of us by hurrying up.

:04:50. > :04:57.He is 70! If you haven't learned by then. Lucy, having heard all of

:04:58. > :05:04.that, Theresa May on a mission to seek a special deal with the

:05:05. > :05:08.President. Given his character, he is in real estate, some people think

:05:09. > :05:19.he still is in real estate! He hasn't given any up. Zero some, I

:05:20. > :05:24.win and you lose. How can you have a trade deal with someone being a

:05:25. > :05:28.country who was like that? You lose and I win? How is Theresa May going

:05:29. > :05:34.to get the kind of deal that will benefit the UK? It is very difficult

:05:35. > :05:39.to see that working. He clearly said America first, this is about

:05:40. > :05:45.American jobs and the order is like the pipelines indicator, only

:05:46. > :05:52.American steel will be used. He is holding true to that cry. Economic

:05:53. > :05:57.protectionism. Even today at PMQs, Theresa May said UK interest and

:05:58. > :06:04.values first. It is interesting how they can dovetail. Very vague

:06:05. > :06:08.language, with trade there can be prosperity, growth, more jobs on

:06:09. > :06:12.both sides of the Atlantic. It is tricky, one thing we can say is

:06:13. > :06:16.Donald Trump, because Imex making these deals, he wants to keep up his

:06:17. > :06:24.reputation for results, there could be leverage, perhaps before the

:06:25. > :06:28.midterms, wanting to sign something. It is about horse trading, a trade

:06:29. > :06:33.deal, you get something and we get something and we are happy. You have

:06:34. > :06:37.painted a portrait of his character. Is that the kind of character that

:06:38. > :06:44.is going to be able to compromise here? And make the kind of deal that

:06:45. > :06:50.is going to benefit everyone? Any transaction is a compromise to some

:06:51. > :06:54.respect because you have done a deal and if you can see advantage in the

:06:55. > :07:02.deal and then promote that advantage as a PR win, both sides can win. You

:07:03. > :07:06.sell the deal. That is part of the deal. The trouble with Donald Trump

:07:07. > :07:11.is everything seems to be a transaction. There doesn't seem...

:07:12. > :07:14.You would hope with someone who seeks to attain the leadership of

:07:15. > :07:19.the free world, they would have some moral baseline upon which they don't

:07:20. > :07:25.fall below. With him, everything seems to be up for grabs. There is a

:07:26. > :07:30.trapdoor! There is nothing beyond the boundaries, from lock them up,

:07:31. > :07:36.send them home... It is a dangerous place to be in a democracy because

:07:37. > :07:41.democracy is one on trust and autocracy is here and Donald Trump

:07:42. > :07:46.often runs towards here. We have seen all of that on the campaign

:07:47. > :07:52.trail and a little bit in the last few days, Lucy. What about the

:07:53. > :07:56.sexism and racism and, as you pointed out, the possibility that

:07:57. > :08:01.they might reopen these black sites around the world? Freedom of speech.

:08:02. > :08:08.Attacks on the press. All the kind of stuff that the British or at

:08:09. > :08:13.least certainly the government would think are a part of who we are as a

:08:14. > :08:17.nation, freedom of speech and so on. This band is not believe in a lot of

:08:18. > :08:23.that, potentially. How does Theresa May deal with all of that? It is

:08:24. > :08:27.tricky, she has been very strident talking on The Andrew Marr Show, I

:08:28. > :08:33.am not afraid to tell Donald Trump what is unacceptable. She does not

:08:34. > :08:37.really hold the cards, America does. We are leaving the EU, we need a

:08:38. > :08:40.trade deal more than the US. She is at risk of going in and even if

:08:41. > :08:47.there is positive mood music from this charm offensive this week, what

:08:48. > :08:51.is to say he won't treat next week, Theresa May- loser. As he has done

:08:52. > :08:59.with virtually everyone else he has met over the years. He has turned on

:09:00. > :09:03.them online. The omens are not good. The major foreign policy decisions,

:09:04. > :09:06.Nato and the encroachment of Russia and Brexit, he is in favour of

:09:07. > :09:10.Brexit, which is incredibly difficult to deliver on anybody's

:09:11. > :09:15.terms and he thinks Nato is obsolete and he wants to embrace Russia. Not

:09:16. > :09:19.good signs for a British Prime Minister. Whatever she talks

:09:20. > :09:23.about... We have cut ourselves off from Europe and it is a bit like the

:09:24. > :09:29.Secretary of State saying we have lost an empire and were searching

:09:30. > :09:34.for our role in the world. When Theresa May goes back to Number 10

:09:35. > :09:42.and somebody shouts 8- did you talk about his sexism comments? She will

:09:43. > :09:47.have to say something? Isn't she? Like she took him to task and that?

:09:48. > :09:52.It seems like Number 10 has been styling the lines on this. The fact

:09:53. > :09:55.I am a female Prime Minister. I will be sitting there in the room with

:09:56. > :10:01.him, but will show him that women can lead. I am not sure she is going

:10:02. > :10:11.to tackle him head-on in the first meeting. Quite unlikely. The other

:10:12. > :10:16.story is Southern Rail. The franchise at risk of being

:10:17. > :10:20.renationalised? This will come as any surprise to anyone because it is

:10:21. > :10:28.the worst performing operator on the old British Gas service. Only 46% of

:10:29. > :10:36.trains running on time in the past month and this is fallout from this

:10:37. > :10:40.strike. About how many guards and people should be working on a train,

:10:41. > :10:45.a driverless train. The problem at this is the government loses both

:10:46. > :10:50.ways, if they renationalised this the unions claim victory, if they

:10:51. > :10:58.let it run, they get a beating in the heartland, where people are not

:10:59. > :11:01.getting a decent service. I have to say, Chris Grayling, the minister,

:11:02. > :11:08.has a history of not being a very effective minister, I will say that.

:11:09. > :11:15.That has been one of his downfall in government. This might prove

:11:16. > :11:19.another. It is Hobson 's choice. It doesn't put him into a winning

:11:20. > :11:24.position, whichever he takes. Grammar schools on the front page of

:11:25. > :11:32.the Telegraph. But grammar stream in every school to help bright pupils,

:11:33. > :11:35.according to the head of UCAS? I am not sure how but grammar stream

:11:36. > :11:41.would be different to the streaming that already happens in most schools

:11:42. > :11:45.and I suppose the point that the outgoing Chief Executive is trying

:11:46. > :11:50.to make but without saying so is that we don't want a social economic

:11:51. > :11:54.ghetto with rich areas with grammar schools and middle-class people

:11:55. > :11:58.moving in because the catchment area has become so expensive and poor

:11:59. > :12:03.areas with worse girls, perhaps it was not the same level of

:12:04. > :12:07.achievement. I can only assume this is what this means otherwise it is

:12:08. > :12:15.just supercharged streaming. What is new in that? It is a cultural thing.

:12:16. > :12:18.There is called, they would follow traditional academic curriculum is

:12:19. > :12:23.and where behavioural norms could be taken for granted. There is a

:12:24. > :12:29.sanctuary within the rough and tumble of comprehensive schools that

:12:30. > :12:36.she seems to be advocating as though there is this place for Latin and

:12:37. > :12:43.violent players! It is a cultural thing. Interesting. The Telegraph is

:12:44. > :12:49.the only paper that seems to have that story. Interesting to see how

:12:50. > :12:55.that develops. Who is that bruiser on the front of The Daily Telegraph?

:12:56. > :13:05.Some sort of drunken sailor? He has had quite a bit to drink? No, Mary

:13:06. > :13:11.Berry! Looking very combative after having won a national award! Good on

:13:12. > :13:17.her! Named the best television judge at the national television awards.

:13:18. > :13:23.That is so great, she is so elegant on television, on The Great British

:13:24. > :13:31.Bake Off. And here it comes out! Raging against the machine! Good on

:13:32. > :13:35.her! I think she has either find out that The Great British Bake Off is

:13:36. > :13:40.going to Channel 4 or she has decided, you know what, I will not

:13:41. > :13:47.get involved myself! Staying with the BBC! I think that is what it is!

:13:48. > :13:52.It could be her next pay check! She has got a pay rise. Probably the

:13:53. > :13:55.only one! Good to see both of you. Many thanks for that.

:13:56. > :13:58.Don't forget you can see the front pages of the papers online

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