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:00:21. > :00:23.Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be

:00:24. > :00:28.With me are the business academic Melanie Eusebe

:00:29. > :00:36.and the Daily Mirror's Head of Politics, Jason Beattie.

:00:37. > :00:43.Let's take a look at those front pages. Most of the focus so far has

:00:44. > :00:47.been on Theresa May's speech this evening to Republicans in

:00:48. > :00:49.Philadelphia. That is ahead of her meeting with Donald Trump at the

:00:50. > :00:56.White House tomorrow afternoon. The Telegraph highlights her pledge

:00:57. > :01:00.never to repeat what she called the failed policies of Tony Blair and

:01:01. > :01:03.George W Bush. He was the last Republican president. The Metro

:01:04. > :01:12.describes the two leaders as the odd couple. The Express says the Brexit

:01:13. > :01:17.boom and the surge in share prices has given pensions of huge boost

:01:18. > :01:28.with annual pay-outs at their highest for nearly a decade. The

:01:29. > :01:32.Guardian has more on their big meeting tomorrow, with a photograph

:01:33. > :01:35.of Theresa May, highlighting her assertion that she can forge a

:01:36. > :01:41.strong personal relationship with the new president because opposites

:01:42. > :01:51.attract. The tie focuses on President Trump's policy towards his

:01:52. > :01:55.neighbours. The Daily Mirror gives its front page over to the news

:01:56. > :02:10.about Rory McGrath, who today admitted stalking a former lover.

:02:11. > :02:17.I think we will probably be guided by the front pages tomorrow morning.

:02:18. > :02:21.Let's begin with the Metro. Melanie Eusebe, the odd couple, you are from

:02:22. > :02:29.another of those neighbours of the United States, Canada - do you think

:02:30. > :02:33.they're and odd couple, or is there some kind of ideological corner

:02:34. > :02:37.which has emerged? They certainly are an odd couple. Theresa May

:02:38. > :02:42.again, she mentioned the fact that she is the daughter of a vicar.

:02:43. > :02:45.Schumacher emphasised that in her speech. However, on the other hand

:02:46. > :02:51.she also said that we do share the same values as countries as well as

:02:52. > :02:56.leaders. In terms of the belief in liberty and hard work and those

:02:57. > :02:59.typical conservative values. Yes, acknowledging the difference but

:03:00. > :03:07.saying that we can form a new partnership together. Looking at the

:03:08. > :03:11.next front page, the message coming across, with the Guardian again

:03:12. > :03:19.saying, opposites attract. Issue making the best of a bad lot, Jason

:03:20. > :03:26.Beattie, or do you think her team thinks there is a journey or

:03:27. > :03:31.something that they can work with? Let's go back one step first. Should

:03:32. > :03:36.she have gone at all? The fact she's the first world leader, it is seen

:03:37. > :03:42.by some as a great coup. And the Brexiteers are loving it, thinking,

:03:43. > :03:45.not only is she the first to meet the new president, but she could be

:03:46. > :03:52.the first to get a new trade deal. And others are saying, is it looking

:03:53. > :03:56.a little bit needy? Is she fawning, is this an act of desperation? I

:03:57. > :04:04.think her speech was actually quite canny. It was a difficult hand to

:04:05. > :04:09.play. Because obviously much about Trump, maybe she could have been a

:04:10. > :04:13.bit stronger on some of this. Theresa May we know is quite prim,

:04:14. > :04:17.as we said, the daughter of a vicar, and he's a very brash reality star

:04:18. > :04:22.billionaire who has made some pretty unpleasant it's about winning. And

:04:23. > :04:29.she has taken the issue of sexual exportation very seriously when she

:04:30. > :04:34.was at the Home Office. For in terms of the big geopolitical stuff, I

:04:35. > :04:41.thought she was quite careful. Sum nudges to trump, saying, look, Nato

:04:42. > :04:49.IS important. Don't be fooled by Vladimir Putin on the importance of

:04:50. > :04:53.the United Nations. The bit I find difficult is the message about

:04:54. > :05:00.shared values. Because I'm not sure Donald Trump HAS any values. And

:05:01. > :05:05.this way we kind of play up the special relationship. If you listen

:05:06. > :05:09.to various American presidents over the last 30 years, as I have done,

:05:10. > :05:14.they talk about the special relationship, and the enduring

:05:15. > :05:18.relationship, and the lasting relationship, or the historic

:05:19. > :05:27.relationship. We have taken the special relationship as ours. I

:05:28. > :05:37.think we over-hype it. That is what really worries me. Very interesting

:05:38. > :05:42.parallel, the number of the papers, and it is in her speech itself,

:05:43. > :05:47.Margaret Thatcher really have the back of her mind, she wants that

:05:48. > :05:53.kind of relationship. This is how the Huffington Post has it - is that

:05:54. > :05:58.how she will be seen, do you think, in North America, because she's a

:05:59. > :06:02.woman and leading Britain? I think that inadvertently, she was always

:06:03. > :06:10.going to be compared to Margaret Thatcher. The circumstances in which

:06:11. > :06:16.they came to office were also similar. However, I agree with you,

:06:17. > :06:23.I think the speech was very, very smart. It demonstrated strength in

:06:24. > :06:29.the areas where I think we needed to see strength, however it was also

:06:30. > :06:35.almost an olive branch in regards to acknowledging some of those shared

:06:36. > :06:44.values. I think Donald Trump has spoken of values like patriotism and

:06:45. > :06:48.nationalism and national pride. Nationalism, in the speech, not as

:06:49. > :06:55.an excuse, strikingly, to disengage from the world. You have still got

:06:56. > :06:59.to be a leader in the world, you can't just back off, it was a

:07:00. > :07:04.striking challenge to America? I think it was a conflicted message.

:07:05. > :07:06.The one line saying, we are not going to repeat the mistakes of Bush

:07:07. > :07:13.and Blair and intervene in countries. And in the, but nor are

:07:14. > :07:20.we going to stand back if there is a threat. And then she says, we must

:07:21. > :07:24.go on and tackle Daesh in the Middle East. You're thinking, hang on, none

:07:25. > :07:35.of these go together as one argument! I don't think she fully

:07:36. > :07:43.resolved that. But I think she did a good job in of resolving it. She

:07:44. > :07:52.indicated, we are not going to make these countries in our own image. I

:07:53. > :08:01.come back to this, what image is this any more?! Is this the Trump

:08:02. > :08:06.image or is this a British image? We do not know what the Trump image is,

:08:07. > :08:11.is it the snarling, repugnant, nationalistic in the worst sense

:08:12. > :08:15.president? Theresa May was still trying to cling onto this kind of

:08:16. > :08:20.traditional partnership. I'm not sure that's entirely possible. What

:08:21. > :08:25.do you think then, on that point, about the suggestion of what kind of

:08:26. > :08:33.relationship we might have with Donald Trump, it is almost kind of

:08:34. > :08:41.crude, it is a business relationship when he said, business deals, trade

:08:42. > :08:45.deals, 30 days termination contract clause. Will any country really by

:08:46. > :08:52.up to that just to get a deal with the United States? I think that

:08:53. > :08:57.Donald Trump will have a sad, rude awakening in regards to negotiation,

:08:58. > :09:03.international negotiation. I don't think that's possible, quite

:09:04. > :09:09.friendly. However, I think it's more bravado. It really is. I am not by

:09:10. > :09:14.any means a person who has voted for Donald Trump. However, I think

:09:15. > :09:19.there's a lot about drawing a line in the sand and working towards it,

:09:20. > :09:25.rather than it being, let's just trade and have a good time! There

:09:26. > :09:34.aren't many jokes out of the stories which are around, but this cartoon

:09:35. > :09:45.is always one which makes you stop and think, by Matt. We were looking

:09:46. > :09:51.for some light relief! And we've now got these MPs walking from the House

:09:52. > :09:56.of Commons chamber, going, I'm just saying, triggering Article 50 would

:09:57. > :10:01.be a lot easier if we could torture the Romanians. Obviously, the

:10:02. > :10:13.reference to the problems back home about Article 50, and Donald Trump's

:10:14. > :10:20.comments about torture, coats, absolutely works. Theresa May on the

:10:21. > :10:24.plane out today, said, yes, I will raise torture with him. And if he

:10:25. > :10:28.says, look, if our intelligence sharing with America is based on

:10:29. > :10:34.them using torture, then that relationship collapses. Now, the

:10:35. > :10:41.fundamental relationship we have with America before Donald Trump, we

:10:42. > :10:47.had unprecedented security and defence relationship. And then we

:10:48. > :10:52.had opposition as America chose leading voice within the European

:10:53. > :11:02.Union. Should be of those pillars are in danger of collapsing. And

:11:03. > :11:07.what about the fundamentals of our special relationship? Yet again, it

:11:08. > :11:15.illustrates how beautifully political her speech was. The towing

:11:16. > :11:20.the line in regards to Brexit, and she has been towing the line quite

:11:21. > :11:26.well, and she did so with this one. However, the reality is, the two

:11:27. > :11:31.positions are untenable. If Donald Trump is saying, water boarding is

:11:32. > :11:39.permissible, let's fight fire with fire... You would have to change the

:11:40. > :11:44.law in America before you could even contemplate it. Exactly. Quite

:11:45. > :11:50.frankly, it would take years for us to untangle that. It is untenable.

:11:51. > :12:01.It reminds me of our exit struggle right now. Mexican stand-off. Neat

:12:02. > :12:07.headline from the i on a less than neat relationship. Let's end on the

:12:08. > :12:14.New York Times, Jason. This interesting piece on the front page

:12:15. > :12:18.- freshening policy from random Twitter posts. Is this going to be

:12:19. > :12:28.the shape of things to come for the next four years? Members of his

:12:29. > :12:32.staff in the White House are saying, these can carry on tweeting. They

:12:33. > :12:36.say this is his way of getting the message across, because he does not

:12:37. > :12:40.trust the mainstream media. People like myself, obviously, we just

:12:41. > :12:46.report alternative facts. The cleverness of Trump is the way he

:12:47. > :12:50.uses Twitter as a distraction. So, bad news comes along, and you find

:12:51. > :12:55.him tweeting what looks random but probably is purpose about a TV show,

:12:56. > :13:00.or the ratings of the Apprentice. And so we all look at that, and we

:13:01. > :13:07.are not looking over there. It is quite frightening. Melanie Eusebe

:13:08. > :13:11.and Jason Beattie, we are out of time, unfortunately. That's The

:13:12. > :13:18.Papers tonight. You can see the front pages online on the BBC News

:13:19. > :13:24.website. If you missed any of this evening's programme, you can watch

:13:25. > :13:27.it later on the iPlayer. My thanks to Melanie Eusebe and Jason Beattie.