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:00:15. > :00:18.Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be

:00:19. > :00:22.With me are journalist, writer and broadcaster Agnes Poirier

:00:23. > :00:24.and the Economics Editor of The Independent Ben Chu.

:00:25. > :00:27.No prizes for guessing the story on all of tomorrow's front

:00:28. > :00:42.It is the visit to America by Theresa May. Many of the papers show

:00:43. > :00:50.the picture of Theresa May and double trap holding hands.

:00:51. > :00:54.Many of the papers show the picture of Donald Trump and Theresa May

:00:55. > :00:56.holding hands with the words "love at the White House."

:00:57. > :00:58.The hand holding also features on the Mirror's front page

:00:59. > :00:59.which describes the meeting as something of a love-in.

:01:00. > :01:04.The Guardian calls it the new special relationship and suggests

:01:05. > :01:05.Theresa May has been reassured by President Trump and several key

:01:06. > :01:08.issues. The Telegraph refers to Donald Trump

:01:09. > :01:12.and Theresa May as the happy couple who have shown that

:01:13. > :01:22.opposites attract. The Times signals Trump's praise for

:01:23. > :01:22.exit and shows him pointing at the bust of Winston Churchill, now

:01:23. > :01:26.reinstated in the Oval Office. The Independent's headline mentions

:01:27. > :01:29.President Trump's backing of Brexit and the confirmation Theresa May

:01:30. > :01:31.said she was given that he backs And the FT regards the meeting

:01:32. > :01:37.as a success, saying Trump hands May the promise

:01:38. > :01:44.of 'stronger' special relationship. The Sun has its own

:01:45. > :01:47.exclusive about three students at Harrow public school

:01:48. > :02:01.who are believed to have collapsed All right. Let's begin. It was

:02:02. > :02:04.almost a complete set, wasn't it? Only be sun broke rank with their

:02:05. > :02:09.front page. Let's start with the Daily Mail and the head line the

:02:10. > :02:14.love in at the White House. The pictures of the handholding, the arm

:02:15. > :02:19.around the back and everything. The mood of it was fairly good or were

:02:20. > :02:23.you not really surprised at all, Agnes, about this? It looks as if

:02:24. > :02:33.the British press wants us all to blush when actually all I felt was

:02:34. > :02:37.mortified. The haste in which Theresa May, just after he was

:02:38. > :02:43.elected, she couldn't get to him on the phone, and actually he was very

:02:44. > :02:48.quick to meet Nigel Farage on the hub of the British people. Now she

:02:49. > :02:52.says, thank you so much for having me so soon at the White House and it

:02:53. > :02:56.sounds so desperate. And indeed, sounds so desperate. And indeed,

:02:57. > :02:59.is a trade deal now because of is a trade deal now because of

:03:00. > :03:02.Brexit. So we had of course words about the special relationship but

:03:03. > :03:12.we've had that for decades if not centuries. I don't know. Then the

:03:13. > :03:17.'s side. She is above all this. So 's side. She is above all this. So

:03:18. > :03:24.don't bring having. What do you think? You say Brexit but those in

:03:25. > :03:29.favour of Brexit with a sensible? This is the first full week of

:03:30. > :03:32.Donald Trump's presidency and by any rational standard it has been a

:03:33. > :03:36.complete disaster. Any hope that he would become more presidential,

:03:37. > :03:40.become more restraint have been out the window. Talking about trade

:03:41. > :03:44.wars, insulting people, relations breaking down all over the place.

:03:45. > :03:48.Pathological lying has come through. Then for the British Prime Minister

:03:49. > :03:54.had to go here and as Agnes says tries to be depressed of this man is

:03:55. > :04:00.a very high risk minibar. -- tries to be the best friend of this man.

:04:01. > :04:04.If he carried on in this vein, these pictures of Theresa May holding

:04:05. > :04:08.hands with him a welder, millstone around her neck that not only have

:04:09. > :04:12.about the country will struggle to live down. Do you not think you is

:04:13. > :04:18.likely tone things down during that period is today though? Well, by his

:04:19. > :04:23.own standards, yes, he appeared restrained, but what does that mean?

:04:24. > :04:27.There is all this new special relationship but can we believe what

:04:28. > :04:32.he says? Nope. This is one thing one day and another another day. This

:04:33. > :04:38.thing about Nato. It used to be obsolete and now she, that is the

:04:39. > :04:42.biggest news today, she managed to say, as you told me, Mr President,

:04:43. > :04:46.you told me you were backing Nato 100%. But we haven't heard him say

:04:47. > :04:50.this. A lot of the analysts were saying that was perhaps the most

:04:51. > :04:55.important thing that was said. The Daily Telegraph with the headline

:04:56. > :05:01.their hand-in-hand, the happy couple. Again, the handholding has

:05:02. > :05:05.it. Towards the end of the article there, that note that Theresa May

:05:06. > :05:11.said that Donald Trump had said he was 100% behind Nato and that hold

:05:12. > :05:14.Nato issue has been very much a hot potato. He gave an interview to

:05:15. > :05:19.Michael Gove in the Times a couple of weeks ago and said that Nato was

:05:20. > :05:25.obsolete. Picking up on a theme that he ran with very strongly in his

:05:26. > :05:28.campaign that they basically believe the countries in Nato don't pay

:05:29. > :05:32.enough for their defence. Theresa May have gone there and said in this

:05:33. > :05:38.press conference that you agreed in our previous meeting that you were

:05:39. > :05:41.backing Nato 100% but he didn't say that himself. These words didn't

:05:42. > :05:46.come out of the mouth of the president of the United States. He

:05:47. > :05:49.had every opportunity to say, yes, I agree with that, but he didn't say

:05:50. > :05:55.that. There is a degree of false conflict being drawn that he backs

:05:56. > :05:58.Nato 100% because he didn't say it. But earlier and we had a

:05:59. > :06:01.British-based republican former adviser who was saying, do you not

:06:02. > :06:05.think they discussed he was going to say what before they walked out

:06:06. > :06:11.there? That was her view, that it was all carefully stage-managed. It

:06:12. > :06:17.looked quite awkward. She was really walking on eggshells and anybody in

:06:18. > :06:24.her shoes would. With Donald Trump, the problem is you don't believe

:06:25. > :06:28.anything he says. I'm getting the feeling that neither of you are big

:06:29. > :06:33.fans at this point. Let me put it to you, if either -- if other European

:06:34. > :06:39.leaders had been offered to go first, they would have gone? Well,

:06:40. > :06:43.it didn't happen. I'm not sure Angela Merkel would have done

:06:44. > :06:48.actually. She doesn't seem desperate, doesn't act as if she is

:06:49. > :06:51.desperate and is not desperate. She will be on the frame to him

:06:52. > :06:57.tomorrow, so we'll Francois Hollande and so will Vladimir Putin. I do

:06:58. > :07:02.hope they don't rush to Washington. They will, along with other world

:07:03. > :07:09.leaders, the heartened to hear the 100% support for Nato. And the 100%

:07:10. > :07:14.support of Brexit as well, of course. Donald Trump is not a normal

:07:15. > :07:18.presidency. The way he conducts himself, the people he has

:07:19. > :07:22.appointed, the whole setup is not typical and we simply do not know at

:07:23. > :07:26.this stage what a commitment from Donald Trump to something like Nato

:07:27. > :07:31.or a Mexican wall, whether this actually means anything. Can we

:07:32. > :07:37.trust what he says? Does he even believe or understand what he's

:07:38. > :07:40.saying. We could talk about torture. He said he has appointed somebody

:07:41. > :07:46.who doesn't believe in torture say we will go with him, but personally

:07:47. > :07:52.as the president of the United States, I do think I believe in

:07:53. > :07:55.torture. Something we have never heard before. That is something

:07:56. > :08:00.which is not normal for the president. It is very difficult to

:08:01. > :08:06.judge him by what he says. Playing devils advocate again, we are always

:08:07. > :08:09.criticising politicians for not giving their honest opinion. You

:08:10. > :08:14.could argue that at least he was being honest about it? I suppose if

:08:15. > :08:19.you wanted to burn something positive to say. I am going to

:08:20. > :08:24.struggle with you to to get that. It is frightening times. It is almost

:08:25. > :08:29.comic, a lot of what is going on but it is also incredibly serious at the

:08:30. > :08:34.same time. And quite sad to see Britain playing that card because it

:08:35. > :08:38.might really not get them where they wanted to. Time Will Powell on that.

:08:39. > :08:46.Let's stay with the same story a different angle -- time will tell on

:08:47. > :08:51.that. Let's move to the Financial Times, Trump hands made the promise

:08:52. > :08:56.of a stronger special relationship. But also talk about Russia. There is

:08:57. > :09:01.to be a phone call tomorrow between Vladimir Putin and Donald Trump. I'd

:09:02. > :09:07.love to be a fly on the wall. Absolutely. I'm sure other people

:09:08. > :09:10.will be listening in, because the Russian -- if the Russian secret

:09:11. > :09:15.service reputation is anything to go by. This is one of the key

:09:16. > :09:20.relationships. People talk about Britain and the US but Russia and

:09:21. > :09:24.the US, Vladimir Putin and Donald Trump, given all the insinuations

:09:25. > :09:32.about compromise, what they might have on Donald Trump himself, how is

:09:33. > :09:37.he going to behave towards Russia? If he is friendly towards them, that

:09:38. > :09:42.will only add to the sense that he is somehow compromised. But he

:09:43. > :09:46.didn't shy away from this very interesting and quite worrying line

:09:47. > :09:50.that he has had which is that I don't know Vladimir Putin, I want to

:09:51. > :09:53.have a good relationship with him. When the American military and

:09:54. > :09:59.diplomatic immunity are very clear that Russia is not a friend of the

:10:00. > :10:05.United States. It is a hostile power and that they do not, they think

:10:06. > :10:10.there are grave dangers is getting too close. It's like torture. The

:10:11. > :10:16.president disagrees with his generals. The big question is

:10:17. > :10:20.sanctions. To be fair to Theresa May, I think she did say they are

:10:21. > :10:24.sticking with sanctions. She thought held her ground but yesterday in

:10:25. > :10:27.Philadelphia she was also saying, we should have a new relationship with

:10:28. > :10:36.Russia and its actually the same sound coming from the president

:10:37. > :10:40.hopeful in France. If he is elected he is very much in favour of

:10:41. > :10:43.changing completely different foreign policy towards Russia, so it

:10:44. > :10:47.is not something we haven't heard in different parts of Europe. It is

:10:48. > :10:51.something which is gradually taking ground and I see it coming with

:10:52. > :10:56.Theresa May. She is trying to hold on to what is British foreign policy

:10:57. > :11:00.but it is changing. What do you think we will get out of that call

:11:01. > :11:05.or what will we be told to come out of that call? I suspect we won't be

:11:06. > :11:11.told a lot of useful information. Except that it is tremendous and

:11:12. > :11:15.fantastic. We had the same thing with the Mexican president. It was a

:11:16. > :11:19.great conversation, we got on really well. Nothing of substance was

:11:20. > :11:23.reported and I suspect it will be a while before we find out about the

:11:24. > :11:29.bilateral relationship between Trump and other world leaders. The Mexican

:11:30. > :11:33.-- Trump said he cancelled the meeting with the Mexican president,

:11:34. > :11:36.making it sound like they both decided it wasn't happening. I

:11:37. > :11:41.mentioned it, let's get back onto it and go through it in real-time.

:11:42. > :11:45.Brexit. This was going to be very closely looked at, what was said in

:11:46. > :11:50.a press conference and the West, by the European press, by the European

:11:51. > :11:55.leaders. Agnes, let me start with you. How do you think the other

:11:56. > :11:57.European leaders will be viewing what happened today? The thing is,

:11:58. > :12:01.what happened today apart from words. Trump said it was the most

:12:02. > :12:10.wonderful thing that could happen to Britain. But in terms of trade, do

:12:11. > :12:19.we know anything in detail? No, it might be too early. It's the first

:12:20. > :12:24.visit. But also his words towards the EU, towards the consortium, I

:12:25. > :12:29.mean, he hates the organisation that is the European Union. Will it have

:12:30. > :12:36.annoyed, angered, embittered foreign leaders towards the UK? Yes,

:12:37. > :12:39.absolutely. Article 50 haven't been triggered and yet Theresa May, the

:12:40. > :12:45.British Prime Minister, is rushing, running to Washington in the hope of

:12:46. > :12:50.having a trade deal with Trump. Trump says, yes, of course, we'll

:12:51. > :12:55.have a tremendous relationship. But it's all wind. It's all

:12:56. > :13:02.anti-dash-mac empty words. Britain is still in the European Union as

:13:03. > :13:05.far as we know. Would the other European leaders have expected it

:13:06. > :13:12.and if the boot was on the other fit, they would have gone? Expected

:13:13. > :13:15.a chronology, perhaps. You go after you have officially said, I am

:13:16. > :13:20.leaving the European Union and I will therefore start negotiations. I

:13:21. > :13:24.think what's really interesting is that for all the handholding, Trump

:13:25. > :13:27.did not come out and say, we will definitely do a quick trade deal

:13:28. > :13:33.with the UK and we will start negotiating it now. That's not what

:13:34. > :13:36.Theresa May and Downing Street would have hoped to have come out of this.

:13:37. > :13:41.You think realistically though he might have said something like that?

:13:42. > :13:45.With Trump, of course he might have done. You might have had to row back

:13:46. > :13:49.on it but he could have done. Someone has got to him and said

:13:50. > :13:51.don't go too far on this. We have to get this through Congress, we have

:13:52. > :13:54.to speak to the lobbyists in the US to speak to the lobbyists in the US

:13:55. > :13:58.about what the terms of this will be. Throw back a bit. I think it's

:13:59. > :14:02.interesting. They would have loved to have been able to say, Trump says

:14:03. > :14:06.we will definitely do a trade deal but they didn't get that headline.

:14:07. > :14:10.With regard to the fact that he doesn't make the laws, it have to go

:14:11. > :14:14.through Congress and the British can't start proper trade talks until

:14:15. > :14:18.that period has finished, in a sense, a lot of this was for show

:14:19. > :14:24.anyway? Of course. It's all about holding hands, you know. I do hope

:14:25. > :14:29.he's not going to try holding hands with the Queen. Hopefully he will be

:14:30. > :14:34.briefed on that. I mean, this is a pantomime. Isn't it? I mean, that's

:14:35. > :14:40.all you get on every single British newspaper. The ministers will be

:14:41. > :14:45.delighted seeing it so prominently everywhere. Well, some will be, and

:14:46. > :14:50.some will share my view, I suspect, that there is perhaps a very large

:14:51. > :14:53.hostage to fortune. If Trump goes down in flames, which is not

:14:54. > :14:58.inconceivable given his erratic Hagar in this first week, this could

:14:59. > :15:02.look really bad. I don't think Angela Merkel would have held hands

:15:03. > :15:06.with Donald Trump. It was interesting, as they were walking

:15:07. > :15:10.behind the pillars, those pillars hit quite a lot. We don't know who

:15:11. > :15:17.grabbed his hand. It's like the playground. Though back to the

:15:18. > :15:21.Telegraph as well, as that has got an interesting angle on that. Inside

:15:22. > :15:25.and on page five, Prince Charles talking about Brexit, saying it has

:15:26. > :15:31.been given almost a possession status over other important topics,

:15:32. > :15:35.most particularly, Christian persecution. He took part in this

:15:36. > :15:40.campaign about persecution in the Middle East of questions and he was

:15:41. > :15:46.very frustrated, it seems, it seems pretty well sourced, that this

:15:47. > :15:51.wasn't picked up by the media. Prince Charles blamed Brexit that it

:15:52. > :15:55.wasn't picked up because everyone is obsessed with that. I think it's

:15:56. > :15:58.more that the media is obsessed than the British people. One thing you

:15:59. > :16:03.can say, he has certainly right about wrong because now it is in the

:16:04. > :16:07.media and the report is being talked about and he has got exposure for

:16:08. > :16:10.it, so good for him. It is a little talked about subject, the

:16:11. > :16:16.persecution of Christians, and it has been said for years, so good on

:16:17. > :16:24.him to actually push it almost to the front page. Just briefly if you

:16:25. > :16:28.would, this is just the start, is it not? The start of constant headlines

:16:29. > :16:32.about Brexit over the next two or so years. Oh, yes, we have had it long

:16:33. > :16:37.as the can see. What next with the as the can see. What next with the

:16:38. > :16:44.Trump written relationship? Obviously you two are deeply Peta

:16:45. > :16:48.Miss -- pessimistic about it. Do you see the wheels falling off in the

:16:49. > :16:53.next few days or weeks? Well, they will bid. It's a bit like Brexit,

:16:54. > :16:58.it's almost worse than Brexit, because it concentrates all your

:16:59. > :17:01.attention. If only we could focus on something else. Well, there we must

:17:02. > :17:07.leave it. Thank you very much indeed.

:17:08. > :17:11.Don't forget you can see the front pages of the papers online

:17:12. > :17:15.It's all there for you, 7 days a week at bbc.co.uk/papers -

:17:16. > :17:17.and if you miss the programme any evening, you can watch it

:17:18. > :17:28.A big thank you to Agnes and to Ben. Goodbye.

:17:29. > :17:36.Good evening. The gradual progression towards milder weather

:17:37. > :17:40.has started. But we still had some freezing fog and some ice around

:17:41. > :17:42.into this afternoon. Plenty of sunshine around as well, further

:17:43. > :17:44.north across