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:00:00. > :00:22.Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be

:00:23. > :00:28.With me are Martin Bentham - home affairs Editor

:00:29. > :00:30.at the Evening Standard - and the journalist and broadcaster,

:00:31. > :00:37.A quick look at some of tomorrow's front pages,

:00:38. > :00:41.The Observer leads with what it calls the "global fury" in reaction

:00:42. > :00:43.to Donald Trump's immigration ban preventing people from seven mainly

:00:44. > :00:45.Muslim countries from entering the United States.

:00:46. > :00:47.The Sunday Times says there's a diplomatic rift

:00:48. > :00:50.between President Trump and the Prince of Wales

:00:51. > :00:53.over their views on climate change, which the paper says could disrupt

:00:54. > :00:55.the president's state visit to the UK in June.

:00:56. > :00:57.The Sunday Express says Prince William and Harry

:00:58. > :01:00.are to unveil a statue of Princess Diana in the grounds

:01:01. > :01:03.of Kensington Palace - to mark the 20th anniversary

:01:04. > :01:06.The Mail on Sunday reports that NHS doctors have been

:01:07. > :01:10.advised in guidelines from the BMA not to call pregnant women "mothers"

:01:11. > :01:11.because it might offend transgender people.

:01:12. > :01:13.And The Sunday Telegraph leads with comments

:01:14. > :01:16.from the Northern Ireland Secretary, James Brokenshire, who tells

:01:17. > :01:18.the paper the system for investigating murders committed

:01:19. > :01:38.So, let's begin and let's start with the story that has just dominated

:01:39. > :01:42.the day. President Trump's ban on migrants and refugees and the

:01:43. > :01:50.Observer talks about global jury which probably sums it up? Martin?

:01:51. > :01:57.It's fairly accurate. Especially in those countries that are affected by

:01:58. > :02:01.it but also across various parts of Europe, there has been widespread

:02:02. > :02:05.condemnation. Not by every single European leader, by any means. But

:02:06. > :02:13.there has been a lot of criticism of this policy. Donald Trump seems to

:02:14. > :02:22.be facing it all down and I suspect there may have to be some

:02:23. > :02:27.clarifications and concessions towards people with green cards and

:02:28. > :02:32.people with family. They have been concerns being raised by companies

:02:33. > :02:40.like Google about their staff in the USA. It's clearly divisive,

:02:41. > :02:47.abhorrent, and actually completely counter-productive, I would have

:02:48. > :02:53.thought. If you talk about trying to prevent extremists coming into the

:02:54. > :03:01.country, there is no evidence this policy will help but it may make it

:03:02. > :03:04.worse by fuelling grievances in Islamic parts of the world and maybe

:03:05. > :03:08.creating a greater problem rather than a lesser problem. You make the

:03:09. > :03:15.point that not everybody has condemned this policy. In this

:03:16. > :03:19.headline, to reason they refused to condemn this move. She will be

:03:20. > :03:27.judged very harshly for that. This is one of those moments. It is

:03:28. > :03:33.religious discrimination, clear and simple. It is an extreme measure

:03:34. > :03:41.from a president who is not in any sense a normal president. The

:03:42. > :03:45.Observer described him as ignorant, vicious, as no other American

:03:46. > :03:51.President has been. This is one of the times where you would expect the

:03:52. > :04:03.leader of the UK would reflect traditional use. I don't think this

:04:04. > :04:09.is a reflection of our traditions. Donald Trump was not liked by the

:04:10. > :04:14.UK. People with green cards people who have been there for ten years,

:04:15. > :04:18.who have lives, families, homes, jobs, are suddenly wondering whether

:04:19. > :04:23.they can go back home to their families and to their lives. It's

:04:24. > :04:27.absolutely abhorrent. It is cruelty, a despicable thing to do. Theresa

:04:28. > :04:33.May will be judged for not standing up to that and not taking a line

:04:34. > :04:40.against it. Martin, to reason they was in a difficult position, though.

:04:41. > :04:49.It was 24 hours since she had been shoulder to shoulder with President

:04:50. > :04:56.Trump, talking trade I'm not sure if your correct is completely, Rachel.

:04:57. > :05:00.I do think British people will be in favour of this ban. I'm quite sure

:05:01. > :05:04.they would be but the question for to reason they as the actual Prime

:05:05. > :05:08.Minister of of our country is what is likely to be the most effective

:05:09. > :05:12.way of having a positive influence, if you can have one, on Donald

:05:13. > :05:17.Trump. It may turn out to be a futile exercise and obviously her

:05:18. > :05:22.whole strategy is to try to have good relationship with him, to try

:05:23. > :05:27.to that actually the roughest possible edges are smoothed off him

:05:28. > :05:32.and try to direct him in some kind of way, in a better direction, than

:05:33. > :05:35.otherwise he might go. That is her strategy. I think, in one sense,

:05:36. > :05:40.sounding off from the sidelines isn't going to be very helpful.

:05:41. > :05:45.That's her calculation. I did it that's necessarily unwired,

:05:46. > :06:00.actually. --I don't think it's necessarily -- unwise. This is

:06:01. > :06:09.looking at a potential diplomatic car crash. This is apparently coming

:06:10. > :06:19.from the President's team of sources. Intriguing in its health.

:06:20. > :06:25.They have warned that it will be counter-productive to have the

:06:26. > :06:48.Prince of way all is meat Trump. -- intriguing in its self. -- the

:06:49. > :06:57.Prince of way -- Wales. The quotes coming out from President Trump,

:06:58. > :07:02.they want all the pomp, the with William and Kate, all to go

:07:03. > :07:10.seamlessly. One of the risk factors is Charles. The White House is

:07:11. > :07:15.wanting to dictate protocol and usually it would be Buckingham

:07:16. > :07:19.Palace. We are anticipating the row but this is a fascinating scenario.

:07:20. > :07:23.Suggesting here that Prince Charles would want to meet him. We were

:07:24. > :07:27.discussing in the earlier review that maybe Prince Charles might have

:07:28. > :07:36.said he didn't want to get involved with meeting President Trump. He has

:07:37. > :07:45.refused to meet the Chinese, for example, overheat their treatment of

:07:46. > :07:52.Tibet. -- over their treatment. This is suggesting that Trump wants the

:07:53. > :07:55.pomp and circumstance and not to have any clash whatsoever. What will

:07:56. > :08:02.actually happen if they do meet and if other royal members who also meet

:08:03. > :08:09.him and may also have things they don't like about Donald Trump. It

:08:10. > :08:18.will be a fascinating thing which unfortunately we may not ever hear

:08:19. > :08:26.about. Unless he tweets about it. Let's move on to the Sunday express.

:08:27. > :08:34.A story on page six. Do about his policy, he took phone calls from

:08:35. > :08:44.various leaders including Putin. The express is that reporting on this 15

:08:45. > :08:49.minutes on the phone with Putin. There have been questions

:08:50. > :08:54.surrounding Trump's relationship with Russia and the degree to

:08:55. > :09:01.whether Russia had an influence on Trump and the election campaign. It

:09:02. > :09:05.seems the top line coming out of this conversation was to do with

:09:06. > :09:13.dealing with Islamic State. Trump has been talking about rousing a

:09:14. > :09:21.coalition of the willing, again. It will be a departure for the US.

:09:22. > :09:29.While the US and Russia have both been involved in Syria, Russia has

:09:30. > :09:33.been on the side of Bashar al-Assad and the only Corporation between

:09:34. > :09:40.Russia and the US has been about not getting in each other's way over

:09:41. > :09:44.targets. It wasn't clear that Russia was ever going after Islamic State

:09:45. > :09:48.to begin with and seemed to be hitting more civilians and people

:09:49. > :09:51.not involved with Islamic State. This goes back to what we were

:09:52. > :09:55.talking about with Theresa May. Of course, Trump has been making

:09:56. > :10:03.friendly noises about Vladimir Putin, talking about using

:10:04. > :10:07.sanctions. There is a lot of fear in the Baltic states about Russian

:10:08. > :10:14.aggression. Of course, if Trump gets very close to Putin, we want to stop

:10:15. > :10:18.that, really. We want to be making sure that he goes in with his eyes

:10:19. > :10:21.open when he is dealing with Britain and he doesn't get seduced by this

:10:22. > :10:27.idea of some great new friendships and so on. Again, if you look back

:10:28. > :10:32.at the overall political dynamics of things. Theresa May, for example,

:10:33. > :10:36.will be thinking about exactly this. Who will Trump be friendly with? If

:10:37. > :10:40.everybody else is denouncing him, he may end up big friendly with the

:10:41. > :10:48.people that are most unwilling... We're the trouble with that

:10:49. > :10:52.configuration is it assumes you can bring about reform inside the tent

:10:53. > :10:59.when there is a fire inside the tent. Lets me bring you back to the

:11:00. > :11:05.Times. A follow-up from a big story a couple of weeks ago about the

:11:06. > :11:12.Trident nuclear deterrent. The previous story had been about a test

:11:13. > :11:15.in which the Trident had gone off in the wrong direction. The follow up

:11:16. > :11:21.this week? There has been 1.4 billion, which seems a lot of money,

:11:22. > :11:29.on repairing the system of the Trident missiles. You got the full

:11:30. > :11:33.story here. I don't pick it says here over what period that money had

:11:34. > :11:38.been spent at clearly they will have been a need to update some of the

:11:39. > :11:42.guidance systems on it because it is quite an old missile. On the other

:11:43. > :11:51.hand, it plays into what was a good story that Sunday Times had last

:11:52. > :11:58.week about the misfiring. It should not have been concealed. It was made

:11:59. > :12:03.to sound as though it wasn't an isolated incident. There have been

:12:04. > :12:07.potentially ongoing issues. I think it's good that the Sunday Times is

:12:08. > :12:13.the sticking with this investigation because it does raise questions,

:12:14. > :12:16.primarily over the secrecy of the government around this and why it

:12:17. > :12:23.didn't disclose this information last year and whether it didn't

:12:24. > :12:27.disclose the information because it was ahead of a vote on Trident

:12:28. > :12:32.renewal. These are questions that haven't really been addressed yet,

:12:33. > :12:37.have they? Let's move away from politics for a moment and go to the

:12:38. > :12:43.front page of the Mail on Sunday. An extraordinary headline. Don't call

:12:44. > :12:47.pregnant patient mothers. Why? Why not? It is quite confusing but it's

:12:48. > :12:55.basically because there is a risk of offending a transgender person who

:12:56. > :13:00.is about to give birth. I E a woman who is changing sex to a man but has

:13:01. > :13:13.still got the worm and therefore is able to become pregnant -- pregnant

:13:14. > :13:17.and so on. It is apparently put out guidelines saying that mothers to be

:13:18. > :13:21.should be referred to as pregnant people instead which seems

:13:22. > :13:25.absolutely nonsensical given that there must be one or two people at

:13:26. > :13:29.the very most that are likely to be in that situation and whether they

:13:30. > :13:33.would be offended or not by being called a pregnant mother as opposed

:13:34. > :13:38.to a pregnant person. It seems unlikely. Anyway... What you think

:13:39. > :13:44.of this story, Rachel? Unconvinced? I'm not convinced that it would

:13:45. > :13:49.cause offence. I think, Gino, if you are in that situation, presumably

:13:50. > :13:58.the focus is the pregnancy. -- you know. It's hard to imagine that a

:13:59. > :14:03.pregnant person would take offence. There we will leave it. Thank you

:14:04. > :14:08.both very much indeed. That is it for the papers their sour. Thank you

:14:09. > :14:10.to Martin and to Rachel. Coming up next is the film are a few -- this

:14:11. > :14:12.owl.