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:00:10. > :00:16.Good evening. You are watching BBC News. We will be taking a look at

:00:17. > :00:23.the newspapers in just a moment with my guests. We will go through the

:00:24. > :00:27.front pages. First, the headlines. The Foreign Office says UK nationals

:00:28. > :00:31.should not be banned from travelling to the United States, even if they

:00:32. > :00:35.hold dual nationality with one of the seven countries President Trump

:00:36. > :00:39.as this travel restrictions on. The government says passengers might

:00:40. > :00:43.face extra checks if they are flying from one of the mainly Muslim

:00:44. > :00:47.countries. Huge crowds gathered outside the White House to protest

:00:48. > :00:53.the travel ban. Leading Republican senators have said the order could

:00:54. > :00:58.help extremist recruitment and 16 state attorney generals had said

:00:59. > :01:01.restrictions are unconstitutional. An online petition against the

:01:02. > :01:05.travel that the group planned state visit by Donald Trump has gained

:01:06. > :01:11.more than 700 supporters. The petition will be considered for

:01:12. > :01:15.debate by MPs. The United States military says a raid against

:01:16. > :01:19.Al-Qaeda in Yemen, authorised the President Trump, has killed 14

:01:20. > :01:24.militants. Local sources say at least a dozen civilians have been

:01:25. > :01:35.killed. The former French premised has been defeated in the race to be

:01:36. > :01:39.France's Socialist candidate. My guests and made the offer is Chris

:01:40. > :01:43.Cleave, whose book, everyone agrees for giving takes us back to the

:01:44. > :01:58.London of the Blitz when they still didn't know he would win the war.

:01:59. > :02:09.Welcome to our look ahead at what was in The Papers tomorrow. Jackie

:02:10. > :02:15.France's and Tom Bergen are with me. Thanks so much for being with us.

:02:16. > :02:18.That shows what we have got of the front pages. The Financial Times

:02:19. > :02:22.saying President Trump remains defiant over that controversial

:02:23. > :02:27.travel ban as protests and legal challenges mount. The Times says the

:02:28. > :02:31.White House has backed down over dual nationality Britons and the

:02:32. > :02:35.Telegraph says borrowing Johnson, the Foreign Secretary, has received

:02:36. > :02:39.streams is that the vast majority of British citizens will be exempt from

:02:40. > :02:44.the ban. The picture is of Sir Mo Farah, who has been told he can

:02:45. > :02:47.return the United States. The Olympic champion coded in the daily

:02:48. > :02:53.Star saying he fears for his family who all live in America. Stop Trump

:02:54. > :02:57.state visit is the Metro Red Line. More than 700,000 people signing the

:02:58. > :03:01.online petition calling on the government to stop the trip later

:03:02. > :03:08.this year. According to the express, a drug to traverse all summers could

:03:09. > :03:15.be just years away. Only one place to start and that is with the Donald

:03:16. > :03:20.Trump travel ban. Let's look at the Financial Times. Trump defined as

:03:21. > :03:24.protests mount over extreme setting travel ban and there have been a lot

:03:25. > :03:35.of protests. He is doing what he said he would do. For him, it is a

:03:36. > :03:41.no brain. We might be sued -- we might be surprised that people

:03:42. > :03:48.thought he would do otherwise. Saudi Arabia is not on the list. We know

:03:49. > :03:52.that most of the people who are involved in the 9-11 hijackings were

:03:53. > :03:59.from Saudi Arabia. What that means is that most of the US citizens who

:04:00. > :04:02.have been killed in terror attacks involved Saudi citizens, they are

:04:03. > :04:07.not on the list. That could be because there are certain real

:04:08. > :04:13.politic issues with Saudi Arabia. It is not as simple as just banning

:04:14. > :04:18.Muslims. The issue is if it is not that simple, is this measure too

:04:19. > :04:22.simple? There could be a blowback, which they are concerned about

:04:23. > :04:26.coming from Saudi Arabia and other countries. Should we be surprised

:04:27. > :04:35.question talk a lot about banning Muslims and so on? Absolutely not.

:04:36. > :04:40.One thing, in his short time as president, he has shown is, if he

:04:41. > :04:43.said it, on the campaign trail, he ain't it. That is what is

:04:44. > :04:48.frightening, because most people thought once he got into the Oval

:04:49. > :04:52.Office, he would somehow be tempered, the actual office, the

:04:53. > :04:59.status of being president, would change. He is saying Donald is

:05:00. > :05:04.Donald. I said I would do it and I have done it. It has taken many

:05:05. > :05:09.Americans and a lot of officials there by surprise. The New York

:05:10. > :05:17.Times is writing there was confusion amongst officials. Airlines were not

:05:18. > :05:23.certain as to who to stop. It was done quite quickly. Let's talk about

:05:24. > :05:28.the British angle. We gather that Whitehall, the Foreign Office, the

:05:29. > :05:32.Home Office have been scrambling to work out what it means for British

:05:33. > :05:38.citizens. What is your understanding question to interpret it for us. The

:05:39. > :05:44.jury Telegraph front page is Boris keeps United States open to Britons.

:05:45. > :05:47.As far as we can tell, Boris has had a word with somebody and he is

:05:48. > :05:52.saying that if you are a British citizen, you are OK. If you are

:05:53. > :05:58.travelling to the US from anywhere other than those countries, for

:05:59. > :06:03.example, the UK, it doesn't apply to you. We were a bit confused because

:06:04. > :06:07.we were thinking, if I am a Somali, travelling from the UK to America,

:06:08. > :06:14.that doesn't apply to me? It doesn't make sense. The guidance of my

:06:15. > :06:19.colleagues in Cairo have gone to the airport there, that is not what is

:06:20. > :06:23.happening there. People are not being allowed to fights. Unless you

:06:24. > :06:27.are coming physically from one of those countries you are safe, but is

:06:28. > :06:32.what the Foreign Office is saying, does not fit the facts on the

:06:33. > :06:36.ground. The issue is, if it is your life and you have a life in America

:06:37. > :06:39.and you are tempted to visit family in Iraq, it might be the end of your

:06:40. > :06:43.life in America. He have to have a higher level of certainty.

:06:44. > :06:48.Businesses around the world, there will be shock. If you have somebody

:06:49. > :06:53.working for you who is abroad and from one of those countries, are

:06:54. > :06:55.they going to be able to get back into the country? Back into America

:06:56. > :07:04.for work on Monday morning? Above the knot. The Telegraph feature Sir

:07:05. > :07:08.Mo Farah. He has been saying the Queen made him Sir Mo Farah and

:07:09. > :07:14.Donald Trump is bit of an alien, which is a memorable message. He

:07:15. > :07:22.encapsulates the difficulties that many people like him are facing. The

:07:23. > :07:25.uncertainty. Lots of people have international lives these days,

:07:26. > :07:30.especially people we see in newspapers and read about, sports

:07:31. > :07:36.stars, they train in one country was coming from another country. Big

:07:37. > :07:40.companies, tech companies, rely a lot on foreign employees because

:07:41. > :07:43.they like to recruit the smartest people from around the world. They

:07:44. > :07:47.are telling your staff do not go home until you know what the

:07:48. > :07:54.situation is. It is all very well one person getting the all clear,

:07:55. > :07:57.you cannot do it one by one, millions are affected. Just think of

:07:58. > :08:01.all the students. The students studying in America who went home

:08:02. > :08:06.and who are coming back for the new semester. Are they are certain they

:08:07. > :08:13.can get back into America, ready for university? We do come back to the

:08:14. > :08:18.fact he is a democratically elected president and this, as we said, is

:08:19. > :08:21.not a surprise. This is what the people who voted for him, maybe not

:08:22. > :08:29.exactly, but the kind of thing people who voted for him voted for.

:08:30. > :08:33.Absolutely. They are in heaven. They are seeing, right before their eyes,

:08:34. > :08:37.exactly what they wanted to see which is that he said it and he has

:08:38. > :08:44.done it. He said it is making America stronger and he said the

:08:45. > :08:50.world is a horrible mess. Did he mean from when he signed it on

:08:51. > :08:54.Friday or hasn't always a mess? A lot of people said it is

:08:55. > :09:00.unconstitutional. That isn't necessarily true, the president has

:09:01. > :09:03.a lot of legal leeway, even if it appears to be prejudiced against

:09:04. > :09:07.certain religions. The accusation he is doing something unlawful, that

:09:08. > :09:14.has not been proven whatsoever and it seems uncertain. This was the

:09:15. > :09:17.decision of the people. There is a question about the effectiveness and

:09:18. > :09:22.terrorism is a difficult thing to study. It is not studied as much as

:09:23. > :09:26.it should be. What is consistent in most strategies is the hearts and

:09:27. > :09:33.minds issue. This potentially does cause problems in that area. There

:09:34. > :09:40.are is not a war on terrorism and immoral, it has become a war on

:09:41. > :09:45.Muslims. Should Donald Trump come to the UK for this visit? This online

:09:46. > :09:49.petition, every time we should it has gotten more signatures, more

:09:50. > :09:54.than 700,000, heading toward 100,000. Will that make any

:09:55. > :09:59.difference? I don't think it does. When it comes to the Queen and the

:10:00. > :10:06.people she has met over Korean, in terms of dislike and petitions,

:10:07. > :10:10.Donald isn't even close, I don't think. Once it has officially been

:10:11. > :10:14.announced there will be a visit, because it takes place. I said

:10:15. > :10:17.earlier, even if we snubbed him, it will be in such a particularly

:10:18. > :10:24.British weight that he might not notice he is being snubbed. It will

:10:25. > :10:28.go ahead. Presumably there will be demonstrations and protests and so

:10:29. > :10:32.on as there have been in America? I am sure there will be and he will

:10:33. > :10:38.tweet about that because he has incredibly thin skin. When I think

:10:39. > :10:43.of it years the Obama 's had to put up with what they did and he is

:10:44. > :10:47.president for five days and he is complaining about all the press not

:10:48. > :10:53.liking him, it is like, suck it up a Donald, you have four more years to

:10:54. > :11:05.go. Conceivably yet more years. Now, now. Do you think the visit should

:11:06. > :11:10.go ahead because we had Theresa May in Washington, is not important talk

:11:11. > :11:16.about trade and post Brexit and so one? We have to find our way in the

:11:17. > :11:21.world. It is difficult to think of a realistic basis at present on which

:11:22. > :11:30.you would deny him entry were not seek to do business with them. I

:11:31. > :11:34.think that what is interesting, especially for the leadership, what

:11:35. > :11:38.happened today, or over the weekend, is a sign of the risks for Theresa

:11:39. > :11:42.May of having him here. Looking at images of Theresa May in Washington,

:11:43. > :11:46.there was a lack of fear on her face, worried about what he might

:11:47. > :11:53.say and what position... He held her hand. Imagine if he announced this

:11:54. > :11:57.at the podium when he was with. If he comes and mixed statements, you

:11:58. > :12:01.can make a statement which would be embarrassing for the British

:12:02. > :12:06.government. There is a risk for them. I don't think there is a risk

:12:07. > :12:10.he would come but it does bring political risks. He did not sit just

:12:11. > :12:16.after she left and she didn't have too much time to react. A quick look

:12:17. > :12:20.at the express. The Queen caught in Trump visited row over US ban on

:12:21. > :12:24.refugees. As you were saying, she has seen it all before. She has and

:12:25. > :12:31.she will continue doing what she does which is to make sure that she

:12:32. > :12:35.keeps the monarchy in the best light and the state visit where it should

:12:36. > :12:39.be, which is up there, pop and circumstance is what he wants and

:12:40. > :12:44.what he will get. He wants her to watch playing golf at Balmoral. It

:12:45. > :12:50.just seems bizarre. The list of things they trade, this is what we

:12:51. > :12:58.want, this is what you get, not going to happen. But at a quick look

:12:59. > :13:04.at other stories. The Financial Times again, they have a story about

:13:05. > :13:09.MBA graduate salaries racing at the fastest rate for a decade. A golden

:13:10. > :13:14.age for a job? It is a golden age for jobs if you are in a select

:13:15. > :13:21.group. You get paid very well. We live in an economy, what comes out

:13:22. > :13:25.at me, it is another side of inequality. This is a statistical

:13:26. > :13:31.reality that unskilled workers have experienced over the past ten or 20

:13:32. > :13:38.years, maybe more. Very low wage inflation, whereas at the higher

:13:39. > :13:44.end, it is significant. This is consistent with a lot of the data we

:13:45. > :13:50.are seeing. What is your experience on the jobs front? If you have

:13:51. > :13:55.?300,000 it says here to pay for a nBA, the payoff at the end would be

:13:56. > :13:57.great. For most people, it is completely unrealistic and when you

:13:58. > :14:04.think about student that now, who then would think, I go X amount of

:14:05. > :14:08.money, let me go and do this? It depends on who you are, what

:14:09. > :14:14.industry you are going into and, unfortunately, where you get your

:14:15. > :14:19.degree from. Somebody who does have ?300,000, I would bet, that is Roger

:14:20. > :14:24.Federer. He is back. Rolling back the years. Aged 35, wins the

:14:25. > :14:30.Australian. What is most interesting. He hasn't won a major

:14:31. > :14:34.in almost five years. After being of the top of the game for that length

:14:35. > :14:39.of the period, many people had written him off. His seeding was low

:14:40. > :14:49.in tournaments recently. It is great to see this. 35 is both apparently.

:14:50. > :14:54.Absolutely ancient. Be careful. I think back to Jack Nicholas, his

:14:55. > :14:59.sixth Masters victory at 46, it is gripped to see somebody like this. I

:15:00. > :15:05.keep thinking if only Andy had stayed in, he could have won this.

:15:06. > :15:09.Are you and Andy fan? No, I am not a tennis fan. I just think it is

:15:10. > :15:14.wonderful and it shows that age is not a barrier and somebody like him,

:15:15. > :15:20.she has been training of his life, can still continue and the same

:15:21. > :15:26.thing with Serena Williams. She is 35, 36 and they are saying she could

:15:27. > :15:32.go for another four or five years. We'll Andy went another grand slam?

:15:33. > :15:35.In terms of age, she is younger than Federer. As Jackie says, it

:15:36. > :15:42.shouldn't be a bath. There is no particular reason to think he has

:15:43. > :15:48.peaked. It is unlikely Roger Federer will return to the peak form he had

:15:49. > :15:52.in the past. There has to be plenty more left in the town. One hopes, it

:15:53. > :16:04.is good for the country, when he does do well. Good to talk to you

:16:05. > :16:08.both. We will see you both later on. Like you for running through The

:16:09. > :16:11.Papers with us. We will be back at half past 11 for another look at the

:16:12. > :16:18.stories making The Papers. Chris Cleave knows

:16:19. > :16:20.how to spin a story. His novels have been huge

:16:21. > :16:23.bestsellers, gripping thrillers they