05/02/2017

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:00:00. > :00:07.On this week's Meet The Author, my guest is Sofie Kinsella. She will be

:00:08. > :00:17.talking about her latest book My Not So Perfect Life.

:00:18. > :00:23.Welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be bringing us

:00:24. > :00:31.tomorrow. Joining me is Robert Fox and former Conservative employment

:00:32. > :00:38.Minister Esther Mcveigh. The front pages, starting with the Daily

:00:39. > :00:41.Telegraph, leading analysis of plans to close A units in England in an

:00:42. > :00:46.effort to save money. It reports that up to one in six casualties

:00:47. > :00:50.departments face closure. Rent Revolution, the headline on the

:00:51. > :00:53.front of the Metro, referring to a shift in tone by the Conservatives

:00:54. > :00:59.from their right to buy policy towards affordable homes to rent.

:01:00. > :01:04.The Independent has a photo of the French far right leader Marine Le

:01:05. > :01:07.Pen as she launched her presidential campaign in France today and

:01:08. > :01:10.attacked a radical Islam. Blackmailing Beckham, the daily

:01:11. > :01:14.Mirror reports on a plot over hacked e-mails from David Beckham.

:01:15. > :01:21.Health tourism is the focus of the times. It reports hospitals will be

:01:22. > :01:24.legally obliged to charge foreign patients before they are allowed

:01:25. > :01:28.access to NHS health care. The garden looks at the

:01:29. > :01:33.controversial travel ban imposed by Donald Trump but rejected by a US

:01:34. > :01:38.appeals court. It looks like those defending the US president and his

:01:39. > :01:41.efforts to stop people travelling from seven many Muslim countries.

:01:42. > :01:45.I expected to see more of Donald Trump on the front pages but no. But

:01:46. > :01:50.there is a lot of Marine Le Pen instead. Here she is. She was

:01:51. > :01:58.appearing in Lyon today as she launched her campaign.

:01:59. > :02:15.Vive la haine, which I think long live hatred. Yes. It was the rage of

:02:16. > :02:20.the banlieues, which they do every ten years, badly. And those are the

:02:21. > :02:24.suburbs? That's right. The interesting thing is that is her

:02:25. > :02:29.constituency. I am worried about you and Mr Trump. We are not having him

:02:30. > :02:40.40 already, are we? I just thought he would feature more. -- for tea.

:02:41. > :02:45.The papers say Marine Le Pen is going in and she has a roaring start

:02:46. > :02:48.in the presidential election race. She'll win the first round but

:02:49. > :02:54.definitely not the second. You don't agree. I don't because we heard all

:02:55. > :02:59.of that about Mr Trump. What's been interesting since reporting last

:03:00. > :03:07.week from really depressed parts of France, very much the kind of rust

:03:08. > :03:16.belt area that Trump appealed to. They say we are behind one of the

:03:17. > :03:21.big union configurations, the CGT, but the only one who can really

:03:22. > :03:26.speak sent us this time his Marine Le Pen. Wait for a shock. We've

:03:27. > :03:30.heard from other politicians, particularly to do with Islamist

:03:31. > :03:35.fundamentalism in the US in particular, but also saying that we

:03:36. > :03:40.want a rethink of our relationship with the EU. And even the euro as

:03:41. > :03:46.they currency. And she's come out with putting France first. She wants

:03:47. > :03:50.to get into the, sort of, national feeling, the sense of the people

:03:51. > :03:55.she's coming forward with. As you say, whether it is the euro, whether

:03:56. > :04:00.it is talking in a debate to come out of the EU. She's also talking

:04:01. > :04:06.about wanting to tax imports. Also looking at contracts for foreign

:04:07. > :04:10.workers. To raise welfare. Cutting tax. She's appealing to everybody,

:04:11. > :04:17.giving them a pick and mix of things they can go to her for. Do you think

:04:18. > :04:23.she will win? Rob knows the country better. He feels she has support. I

:04:24. > :04:26.would not have thought that. Everything I've been reading has

:04:27. > :04:31.very much said it has always been in the French tradition anything but

:04:32. > :04:35.Marine Le Pen and the National front. She would get through on the

:04:36. > :04:38.first round but not the second. But if people are not tapping in and you

:04:39. > :04:42.are not hearing the coverage of the people she's appealing to, then that

:04:43. > :04:47.could be a way of keeping her off the front pages, but all I saw from

:04:48. > :04:51.the footage on the BBC, when they spoke to an audience afterwards,

:04:52. > :04:55.some were teachers, doctors, students, and they all said Marine

:04:56. > :05:00.Le Pen is the only one for us. So what you are saying is resonating

:05:01. > :05:03.from those 3000 in Lyon. But if they wanted somebody new, somebody

:05:04. > :05:08.different, who wasn't part of the political establishment in terms of

:05:09. > :05:15.had held elected office before they could pick Macron, who have twice as

:05:16. > :05:20.many people turn up at his launch, also in Lyon. He is part of the

:05:21. > :05:25.establishment. He went to the grand schools. He's been minister. He is

:05:26. > :05:28.never held elected office. We've heard that before. I think Marine Le

:05:29. > :05:39.Pen is a much better politician than her father, the founder of the front

:05:40. > :05:43.National, and I think she has populism. She is another one of the

:05:44. > :05:48.big populist leaders, saying, I know the people, I trust the people, the

:05:49. > :05:53.people trust me. I think he is an elite figure, very intelligent,

:05:54. > :05:58.absolutely top drawer, Macron will find it difficult to break that

:05:59. > :06:08.crust. In a way the establishment let themselves down. The people who

:06:09. > :06:12.should have been there, Fillon... I could not agree more. In the States,

:06:13. > :06:16.everybody said, we didn't want Trump, we didn't want Hillary,

:06:17. > :06:23.Hillary had problems with her foundation, her e-mails, why was she

:06:24. > :06:26.the Democrat candidate? C have two people who wouldn't necessarily come

:06:27. > :06:29.forward but the establishment has, they've let themselves down by doing

:06:30. > :06:35.things they should not have done. You are saying the establishment has

:06:36. > :06:39.rotten candidates? I didn't. But I think you have a point. They have

:06:40. > :06:42.done things so wrong for a long time and got away with it, but these

:06:43. > :06:45.people are now coming through. They've opened up the path that

:06:46. > :06:49.these people who you would not have thought would have been here

:06:50. > :06:54.together in the final. So it is really interesting. We will find out

:06:55. > :07:03.pretty soon what is going to happen. April, then many, if we need a

:07:04. > :07:08.second. And we have the Dutch. -- then May. Then we have the big ones,

:07:09. > :07:11.the Germans, and then the Italian ones will come somewhere in between.

:07:12. > :07:17.We will have somebody who does not agree with politics at all. It is

:07:18. > :07:21.rock and roll. Let's move on and talk about Brexit in various guises.

:07:22. > :07:27.There are so many different strands to the Brexit story. First of all on

:07:28. > :07:31.the Telegraph. Made to stand firm against rebels' attempts to wreck

:07:32. > :07:35.Brexit bill. -- Theresa May to stand firm. This would be by a number of

:07:36. > :07:39.amendments which would cause trouble. The government will not

:07:40. > :07:42.back any of them. How can they wrecked the Brexit bill with

:07:43. > :07:47.amendments if they don't get much support? I would not have thought

:07:48. > :07:53.the support was more than nine or ten. Amongst the Conservatives? Yes,

:07:54. > :07:57.couldn't really see that, some of these amendments it is like 100 have

:07:58. > :08:02.come forward. They are wrecking amendments, I think, one has gone

:08:03. > :08:11.through that you cannot trigger article 50 until we've had money put

:08:12. > :08:13.into Cardiff airport. Bless them for trying, but lots of things are

:08:14. > :08:20.coming forward like this. At the end of the day she is going to proceed.

:08:21. > :08:25.She is going to carry on. The vote last week was pretty much unanimous

:08:26. > :08:33.over 380 supporting it going forward. Ken Clarke? He is about the

:08:34. > :08:40.only one. He was the only one from the Conservatives. But we expected

:08:41. > :08:44.that. We knew that. Yes, stand firm, follow one through, and, you know,

:08:45. > :08:49.she is touring the right thing. We've also got on the FT, just

:08:50. > :08:55.quickly, Brexit having a negative effect already, says big business

:08:56. > :08:58.leaders. Hold the front page. How original of the FT. They've been

:08:59. > :09:04.writing that practically since the 23rd of June last year. When we

:09:05. > :09:07.actually leave, though... It might happen, but, you see, they have been

:09:08. > :09:10.doing that and they've been rather blown out of the water by the

:09:11. > :09:16.government of the Bank of England -- governor. And the statistics saying

:09:17. > :09:21.we are doing better than we thought it would be. On the front of the

:09:22. > :09:26.Independent, Jeremy Corbyn braced for fresh Brexit rebellion, it says.

:09:27. > :09:30.Diane Abbott also under pressure. This will be the story. It won't be

:09:31. > :09:40.the Conservatives. They've probably never been so united. This is the

:09:41. > :09:44.story, Diane Abbott has a six-day, having a migraine... A Brexit

:09:45. > :09:48.migraine. She said she was ill and that is why she didn't turn up. Her

:09:49. > :09:53.own party don't believe that. Caroline Flint saying that today.

:09:54. > :09:57.This will be interesting. What will she do next week? She cannot beat

:09:58. > :10:02.you with a migraine this coming week. She will have to vote. -- she

:10:03. > :10:07.cannot be all with a migraine. What will happen when other people didn't

:10:08. > :10:12.want to vote, they wanted at Stein, he said no and they've lost their

:10:13. > :10:19.place in the Shadow Cabinet. -- they wanted to abstain. I think this is

:10:20. > :10:25.the start of Jeremy Corbyn's demise and him going for what Diane Abbott

:10:26. > :10:35.has done. You think so? Do you think he will stick with her? -- I do.

:10:36. > :10:41.I don't think Jeremy Corbyn has fought through a Brexit strategy.

:10:42. > :10:46.One suspects he is in sympathy. He was not a great enthusiast for the

:10:47. > :10:52.EU. Arguably he campaigned more visibly than Theresa May did, who

:10:53. > :10:57.was supposed to be in Remain. I tweeted the other week that they

:10:58. > :11:00.should have been given a free vote because Brexit would have gone

:11:01. > :11:04.through if people had a free vote or not because more constituents and

:11:05. > :11:08.more MPs would have had to have voted with him. He could have done

:11:09. > :11:13.that. I think he's put himself in a pickle going forward. He was trying

:11:14. > :11:18.to appeal to the by-election in Stoke, the one in Copeland, he had

:11:19. > :11:22.to show his northern voters that he's in touch with his working

:11:23. > :11:27.class. But he isn't. He is pulling further apart. It is difficult for

:11:28. > :11:31.any leader, who does he follow, kind of thing, Metropolitan elite,

:11:32. > :11:37.working-class voters in the north, the two by-elections are in the

:11:38. > :11:43.north and that is why he went way. The health service. All this week

:11:44. > :11:47.across the BBC we will be looking at the state of the NHS. The Daily

:11:48. > :11:55.Telegraph says one in six A and the wards are facing closure. --

:11:56. > :12:00.accident and emergency wards. A lot of insight into that. They are

:12:01. > :12:07.really holding things together in a lot of places. Exactly. Talking of

:12:08. > :12:11.closing them down or and cutting them back, according to this story,

:12:12. > :12:17.which is very detailed, the plans are part of efforts to close a ?22

:12:18. > :12:24.billion debt. You cannot go on doing this. The thing is the NHS is going

:12:25. > :12:28.to need money. It will probably need a lot more money given the ageing

:12:29. > :12:36.population. We heard on your interview just before this

:12:37. > :12:42.programme, I think he was from... He was from a former NHS Trust. Yes. We

:12:43. > :12:46.know what is going to happen. But when will we finally confront it?

:12:47. > :12:53.Let me put it to you as a serving politician. Put it off today because

:12:54. > :12:56.it is such a big question. And it is about what you said about something

:12:57. > :13:00.else, dammed if you do dammed if you don't. But it is underfunded for

:13:01. > :13:04.what it is going to have to do and probably what it has today already.

:13:05. > :13:08.We will have a special tax. An insurance scheme in the middle of

:13:09. > :13:13.it. Part privatised with an insurance thing. Do we bring back

:13:14. > :13:18.that dreaded concept that I cannot see any British politician or

:13:19. > :13:25.political party doing it, the means test? They are very big questions.

:13:26. > :13:28.The Conservatives in the coalition spent a lot of money as Labour had.

:13:29. > :13:32.That appears from the figures we have seen to have tailed away, the

:13:33. > :13:38.amount of investment going in. The investment has gone in. The

:13:39. > :13:41.investments are going in. As we were saying before, there are so many

:13:42. > :13:46.demands on it now. Even with the money going in and increased money

:13:47. > :13:50.going in the demands are growing at a faster rate. Whether it is

:13:51. > :13:55.expectations, whether it is the cost of pharmaceutical goods, whether it

:13:56. > :13:59.is ageing population, social care attached to that, that will be the

:14:00. > :14:03.issue. But I think it is positive that now maybe people are going to

:14:04. > :14:07.have a proper adult conversation rather than being so tribal, locked

:14:08. > :14:13.and extreme parts of the debate, and not really solving the problem.

:14:14. > :14:23.Foreign patients to pay upfront for NHS care in the Times newspaper.

:14:24. > :14:26.Hospitals will be legally obliged to charge foreign patients. If somebody

:14:27. > :14:31.comes in and they really need help you do not ask to see a credit card,

:14:32. > :14:37.do you? No. This obviously has to work within the realms of humanity

:14:38. > :14:41.and what is right. But what do you need to do is find out who is

:14:42. > :14:46.eligible, who isn't eligible, and they need crisis treatment. They

:14:47. > :14:50.will be paying for it afterwards. So far they haven't done that. The fact

:14:51. > :14:54.they are just issuing them with the ability to do that with pay

:14:55. > :14:59.machines, nobody has ever asked before. We are going to have to say

:15:00. > :15:02.that it is in the International health service, it is the national

:15:03. > :15:08.Health Service, and people who paid for it need to get treatment from

:15:09. > :15:16.it. I just need to look at the rent revolution. It is in the Metro. A

:15:17. > :15:20.shake-up to give tenants longer agreements. We are all supposed to

:15:21. > :15:27.be homeowners. This is pretty big. It is huge. The homeowning

:15:28. > :15:31.democracy, that was Margaret Thatcher's slogan. Selling council

:15:32. > :15:35.houses. I can hear the brakes being slammed on, grinding gears, it is a

:15:36. > :15:38.big change, and it is because of the way the housing stock is run and

:15:39. > :15:43.rents are impossible, and it's very difficult for young people. A

:15:44. > :15:48.solution 40 years ago which was right isn't necessarily the solution

:15:49. > :15:51.now. You have so many precious. When David Cameron said we want to have

:15:52. > :15:55.all of these new homes, you know what, you never got the planning

:15:56. > :15:58.permission through. You can say whatever you want, actually people

:15:59. > :16:02.don't want them built in their local environment, it isn't going to

:16:03. > :16:05.happen. So then you have 300,000 people coming in every year, which

:16:06. > :16:10.is pretty much a city coming into the country, where are you going to

:16:11. > :16:14.house them? If you can't, you are not building enough, you will have

:16:15. > :16:21.to look at rent, affordability, that is a dilemma but we do have to have

:16:22. > :16:26.something. Supply and demand. There you go, basic. Basic economics. That

:16:27. > :16:34.is it for this hour. But you will both be back at 11:30pm. The poor

:16:35. > :16:38.viewers. I don't want to be here are my own. Coming up next, Meet The

:16:39. > :16:45.Author. Sophie Kinsella's new novel

:16:46. > :16:51.is called my My Not So Perfect Life, It's about a woman in her 20s

:16:52. > :16:54.who leads an apparently