12/02/2017

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:00:00. > :00:00.Cullen, on the novel for young readers, we come apart, which they

:00:00. > :00:15.roped together. Hello and welcome to our look ahead

:00:16. > :00:18.to what the the papers will be With me are Caroline Frost,

:00:19. > :00:21.entertainment editor at The Huffington Post UK,

:00:22. > :00:22.and Tony Grew, Alongside a picture of the Duke

:00:23. > :00:36.and Duchess of Cambridge arriving at the Baftas the Telegraph quotes

:00:37. > :00:40.the Justice Secretary Liz Truss as saying "wicked" offenders

:00:41. > :00:43.won't be released early in order The Express says there's fury

:00:44. > :00:49.at a new bid to wreck Theresa May's Brexit Bill when it

:00:50. > :00:54.goes through the House of Lords. "We all need tasers to fight

:00:55. > :00:57.terror" is the Metro's headline following a survey

:00:58. > :00:59.of Metropolitan Police officers suggesting two in three believe

:01:00. > :01:17.the stun guns should be carried And alongside a picture of Emma

:01:18. > :01:20.Stone who has taken the best actress Oscar at the Baftas:

:01:21. > :01:23.The Guardian reports that whistle blowers face a full frontal attack

:01:24. > :01:36.Let's begin. The Daily Telegraph, forget jail numbers, criminals will

:01:37. > :01:41.do time, who is saying this and what is it about? This is a preview of

:01:42. > :01:44.the speech that Liz Truss the Justice Secretary will give tomorrow

:01:45. > :01:48.in which she is going to say in her view wicked criminals, I'm not sure

:01:49. > :01:51.how she will define those, will spend longer behind bars. There has

:01:52. > :01:56.always been some controversy about the fact that people get released

:01:57. > :01:59.early as a matter of form, and that is to do with the problems we have

:02:00. > :02:06.in the prison system, which is why I'm surprised that she is saying

:02:07. > :02:11.she's going to be keeping people in prison longer, considering that the

:02:12. > :02:15.prison system that she oversees is in crisis, with overcrowding under

:02:16. > :02:18.her watch. While the Tory Right may be interested in this idea that we

:02:19. > :02:23.will go back to a hanged and flog Tory approach to law and order, I'm

:02:24. > :02:27.not sure that the prison system itself, it can't operate under its

:02:28. > :02:34.current capacity, so I'm not sure where these people will be spending

:02:35. > :02:38.their longer services. Using the word wicked, we seem to be in an era

:02:39. > :02:42.where politicians start selling some strange things straightaway. It's

:02:43. > :02:45.like a fairy tale. The idea of someone being innately wicked seems

:02:46. > :02:49.to chime quite badly with the idea that they are also talking about

:02:50. > :02:53.early interventions, nipping things in the bud, cutting things off at

:02:54. > :02:58.the pass. Wicked is something that is totally corruptible from birth

:02:59. > :03:02.and never to be changed, and that doesn't chime with anything I

:03:03. > :03:07.understand. And it marks a change from David Cameron's Government's

:03:08. > :03:10.approach to these issues, rehabilitation and preventing people

:03:11. > :03:14.from becoming offenders, some would argue, me among them, should be the

:03:15. > :03:18.focus of the Government's activities. Tough on the causes of

:03:19. > :03:26.crime. Exactly, one of the most famous slogans from 20 years ago.

:03:27. > :03:30.Liz Truss is saying that the 140% increase in sex offenders going to

:03:31. > :03:34.prison, so she's talking specifically about people being

:03:35. > :03:38.convicted of sex offences. And they talking about a rebuke to Labour, if

:03:39. > :03:44.that is what it is, which called for the prison population to be halved

:03:45. > :03:50.from 85,000 to 42,000 as it was in 1890. Was that the pledge? That was

:03:51. > :03:54.always going to be unrealistic. I would have thought so. A lot of

:03:55. > :03:59.squaring the circle is going on from both parties. But two decade old

:04:00. > :04:03.tough on the causes of crime, to try to keep the country feeling safe,

:04:04. > :04:06.feeling that justice is being satisfied while dealing with the

:04:07. > :04:12.social problems that are behind so many crimes. As we know, Labour did

:04:13. > :04:16.struggle with that. Michael Gove made big promises, it is always

:04:17. > :04:19.wonder when he is not seen as the hardest hitting of the politicians

:04:20. > :04:23.these problems. Good luck if they think they can do it with this new

:04:24. > :04:31.approach, but I can't see it happening. He talked pretty tough,

:04:32. > :04:37.too. He didn't get much done, he wasn't in post for long. But why has

:04:38. > :04:42.the prison publishing gone up from 42,000 in 1990 to 85,000? Has the

:04:43. > :04:48.country become more wicked? Word of the night! Or are we locking up

:04:49. > :04:55.people who should be locked up? Let's move on. Daily Express. It has

:04:56. > :04:59.another line in stories apart from the weather and the usual royal

:05:00. > :05:03.things. They do talk a lot about Brexit here. Let's explain what

:05:04. > :05:11.they're talking about. Furious at new bid to wreck Huw exit. Who is

:05:12. > :05:15.threatening to wreck it and why? This is the senior house, the House

:05:16. > :05:21.of Lords, and we know that Mrs May of Lords, and we know that Mrs May

:05:22. > :05:25.got a surprising mandate, surprisingly large. I do about Tony

:05:26. > :05:32.with his knowledge of the corridors of power. So, really it should be

:05:33. > :05:34.full team ahead, both parties have replied and perhaps Mr Corbyn has

:05:35. > :05:39.taken even more flak than he normally does because of the way his

:05:40. > :05:42.party agreed with so many of the terms, no amendments, lots of

:05:43. > :05:47.promises to fight on every corner, but it is going through. And of

:05:48. > :05:50.course we know that there is a stumbling block, there is the House

:05:51. > :05:55.of Lords, and now the Daily Express, I think they try to conjure up some

:05:56. > :06:01.early fear, some early intervention so that everybody is on alert to the

:06:02. > :06:05.Lords. There have even been implicit threat that if they try to stop this

:06:06. > :06:08.they will show their relevance, is that right? The ultimate thread that

:06:09. > :06:12.the Government is under the impression it has is that it will

:06:13. > :06:14.abolish the House of Lords, considering that Parliamentary

:06:15. > :06:20.parties have been making that promise for more than a century, and

:06:21. > :06:28.it still carries on. The Express even have a logo saying get us out

:06:29. > :06:31.of the EU. So next Monday, when the Lords comeback, of course they will

:06:32. > :06:36.put down those amendments to the Bill in the winner Tim beast did.

:06:37. > :06:39.The bill left the Commons on amended which weakens their position

:06:40. > :06:44.considerably. I suspect they will try and amend it, but I suspect they

:06:45. > :06:48.would significantly frustrated. Remind us how the Lords is composed.

:06:49. > :06:52.A quick reading of that and you think that this conservative

:06:53. > :06:57.Government faces to River Calder is from too many other parties in the

:06:58. > :07:03.Lords. Is that right? What are the numbers? When David Cameron became

:07:04. > :07:08.Prime Minister in 2015, he was the first Tory Prime Minister ever not

:07:09. > :07:12.to have an in-built majority in the House of Lords because the

:07:13. > :07:15.hereditary peers had been removed. The Government needs to work with

:07:16. > :07:21.crossbenchers, they are more than 100, they are not affiliated to any

:07:22. > :07:28.party. They are some of the experts... Experts are very out of

:07:29. > :07:34.fashion! They are not in the House of Lords. The Commons voted to

:07:35. > :07:38.remain, the conversation is not now about whether we vote to Remain or

:07:39. > :07:43.Leave, it is about how the Government goes about triggering

:07:44. > :07:46.article 50. I did six they will significantly frustrate the process.

:07:47. > :07:49.We talked about the extremely long history of people saying they want

:07:50. > :07:53.to abolish the House of Lords, and also coming back to the idea that

:07:54. > :07:55.they might actually stuff it full of their own supporters, the

:07:56. > :08:00.Government. But that is totally improbable, surely? Given that David

:08:01. > :08:07.Cameron created hundreds of peers and took a reputational hit for it,

:08:08. > :08:09.I don't think Theresa May will have an appetite for that, but

:08:10. > :08:14.threatening peers is like threatening judges, they don't care,

:08:15. > :08:19.they will just do their job. Caroline, the Financial Times,

:08:20. > :08:23.bringing us back to very much rather alarming things that happen in the

:08:24. > :08:26.world. North Korea has been up to it again, a missile has gone up, and

:08:27. > :08:32.President Trump, what I found fascinating about this story is that

:08:33. > :08:37.President Trump is hosting the Japanese Prime Minister, they are

:08:38. > :08:39.playing golf at the President's hideaway in Florida, and then this

:08:40. > :08:46.happened. The timing not accidental, obviously. No, of course. We think

:08:47. > :08:51.they are playing golf, but no press have been allowed to witness

:08:52. > :08:57.President Trump's swing. There was one picture. The president put that

:08:58. > :09:03.on his Instagram account, it wasn't a press photo. Meanwhile, North

:09:04. > :09:07.Korea have taken the initiative and launched another missile into the

:09:08. > :09:11.Sea of Japan with all sorts of promises about upscaling their

:09:12. > :09:17.capacity. But basically, North Korea are doing what they have been doing

:09:18. > :09:21.over the last few decades, saying that they have got the power, this

:09:22. > :09:26.is a little bit more evidence. I think it is as you say no excuse

:09:27. > :09:30.that President Trump is entertaining the Japanese premier as this is

:09:31. > :09:33.happening, and it is a case of putting him on the spot. A little

:09:34. > :09:41.bit of mini Brickman ship in the first few weeks of his

:09:42. > :09:44.administration, and we know that -- brinkmanship in the first weeks of

:09:45. > :09:50.his administration, and we know that he things that things are terrible

:09:51. > :09:55.or awesome or sad or failing. Or wicked? !

:09:56. > :10:01.This is the first genuine grown-up test of his presidency and how he

:10:02. > :10:04.chooses to respond. And he did respond in a grown-up way by saying

:10:05. > :10:09.that we stand behind our allies. He didn't condemn the launch itself,

:10:10. > :10:14.some may think that is an omission, but he did say, we are with you,

:10:15. > :10:17.Japan, South Korea. I'm just grateful he hasn't started a nuclear

:10:18. > :10:21.war already, so the fact that his response didn't involve him treating

:10:22. > :10:25.abuse at the North Korean premier is probably a good sign. This is a

:10:26. > :10:28.major challenge now, whoever is in the White House, it doesn't matter

:10:29. > :10:33.how they conduct themselves, they have to face this issue. It is a

:10:34. > :10:36.major ongoing problem, and the issue with North Korea is there is only

:10:37. > :10:41.one country that has any leveraged with them and that is China, and

:10:42. > :10:45.they are also neighbours in the South China Sea attending to

:10:46. > :10:48.establish new land bases and islands with military bases, so this is a

:10:49. > :10:52.difficult balance and I hope President Trump is aware of how

:10:53. > :10:58.subtle the gradations of diplomacy can be. An interesting detail in

:10:59. > :11:01.here, he said he committed himself to the great ally, Japan, the remark

:11:02. > :11:05.that raised eyebrows in South Korea because he didn't mention South

:11:06. > :11:08.Korea as a great ally. This is complicated stuff and I hope he

:11:09. > :11:11.treads lightly or we could end with a much more situation than the one

:11:12. > :11:19.we have now which is a rogue state missiles around. Indeed. Let's move

:11:20. > :11:25.on. Tony let's go with the Metro having this story about this big

:11:26. > :11:29.survey of what police officers actually thought about guns, tasered

:11:30. > :11:34.and so on. Is this the result of that? It is, and that is what I find

:11:35. > :11:37.it really interesting about this particular story, as you rightly

:11:38. > :11:43.said, the Police Federation, the trade union for police officers,

:11:44. > :11:46.they had a conversation about whether a knobbly should be armed,

:11:47. > :11:50.and they asked their members and found that most of them believe that

:11:51. > :11:54.they should have Taser is, but that only one in four thinks that all

:11:55. > :11:58.police officers should carry guns. This is an important issue, we are

:11:59. > :12:01.one of the few countries in the world where police officers do not

:12:02. > :12:06.routinely carry firearms, and I think that is why we have so few

:12:07. > :12:09.incidents of police officers being killed by firearms. In any other

:12:10. > :12:14.country, your first option should you have a gun is to shoot the

:12:15. > :12:18.police officer, but that is one of the strength that we have in our

:12:19. > :12:22.policing. We are rare in that we have a sense of community policing,

:12:23. > :12:27.the police are not separate from the community, they police by consent.

:12:28. > :12:30.It is good to see that the vast majority still don't want weapons. I

:12:31. > :12:36.thought that one in for thinking they should carry guns actually is

:12:37. > :12:42.quite an advance on a few years ago. Yes, I think so, and I can remember

:12:43. > :12:45.as a child travelling to Europe for the first time in Singh policeman

:12:46. > :12:49.with guns and feeling quite horrified and realising we grew up

:12:50. > :12:53.in different circumstances. Circumstances have changed. This

:12:54. > :12:57.does seem to be a compromise of sorts, at least that we are not

:12:58. > :13:02.going down the full firearms route, a Taser is not a nice thing to be on

:13:03. > :13:05.the receiving end of, but the fatalities that we have experienced

:13:06. > :13:11.in the US on both sides. Heavily armed cops on every corner. The

:13:12. > :13:16.Baftas, you were there this evening! I wasn't in the front row, I need to

:13:17. > :13:20.stress. We are always keen to talk to people who were there. The Daily

:13:21. > :13:24.Telegraph has a picture on the front page of people who are not actors

:13:25. > :13:28.are tall, but they stole the limelight on the red carpet, I

:13:29. > :13:32.think, Prince William and lovely Kate. It is a revelation when you

:13:33. > :13:36.are there on the sidelines and you get these a list is and their

:13:37. > :13:39.Oscar-winning Sam Baird Golden Globe winners, and they are so used to

:13:40. > :13:44.hoovering up the attention, and people do give them the right kind

:13:45. > :13:48.of attention, and then the Royals turn up, and there are only two

:13:49. > :13:54.stars in town suddenly. Is really bizarre. You feel the change? There

:13:55. > :13:57.is electricity and attention, the service was delayed because they

:13:58. > :14:03.were delayed in their car, we have to macro superstars. And Tony I must

:14:04. > :14:08.ask you about the dress she was wearing. No, perhaps I won't! We saw

:14:09. > :14:12.some very skimpy dresses tonight, but that was a nice one. We have

:14:13. > :14:17.another lady, and we talked about this earlier, beaming in minus three

:14:18. > :14:21.Celsius was naked shoulder flesh, give everyone an Oscar as far as I'm

:14:22. > :14:26.concerned. I wasn't smiling, and I had a hot water bottle up my coat!

:14:27. > :14:28.Thank you both very much indeed. That's it for The Papers

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