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:00:00. > :00:00.That was in it sets like Reagan. We have part of a wide shot. He is

:00:00. > :00:11.making it sound so easy. If it was so easy, why hasn't it been done so

:00:12. > :00:18.far? We had his supporter who came up on the stage. Not at all

:00:19. > :00:24.scripted. I am sure it was all unscripted! He was overwhelmed! He

:00:25. > :00:28.said that he knew Mr Trump would deliver. To be fair, the guy has

:00:29. > :00:34.only been in office for one month. It is a four-year term. He is trying

:00:35. > :00:38.to get people behind him. But you look at that and I am sure to some

:00:39. > :00:43.Americans and, without trying to start a war between our countries, I

:00:44. > :00:50.shall most Britons would have looked at that chap and thought, they would

:00:51. > :00:54.have raised an eyebrow or sniffed at this guy. He was a happy looking

:00:55. > :00:58.chap and Trump was happy to bring him up and let this average looking

:00:59. > :01:03.guy, he had no idea what he was going to say, be his spokesman and

:01:04. > :01:11.he was the stronger spokesman he could have had. He keeps talking

:01:12. > :01:15.about fake news. BBC News have carried his speech unedited for

:01:16. > :01:21.about 40 minutes, so no one is twisting his words. It is the first

:01:22. > :01:25.sign of a dictator when people talk about fake news. What's fake about

:01:26. > :01:32.carrying his speech unedited for 40 minutes. That's one of the big

:01:33. > :01:37.problems. He is in a position now where he is starting... It is only

:01:38. > :01:41.one month in, he will have to start delivering on some of these things.

:01:42. > :01:45.It is all very well to talk about the healthcare than solving Middle

:01:46. > :01:51.East problems, but it's that tough line on immigration, which works

:01:52. > :01:55.well with that crowd. He was in his home territory. But there will come

:01:56. > :02:00.a time when we will have -- it will have to start delivering on his

:02:01. > :02:06.promises. I think again he has brought forward solutions, even some

:02:07. > :02:10.as simple as the pipe. It seems something only a businessman would

:02:11. > :02:20.have notice. This is a non-partisan sort of divided. The us and them,

:02:21. > :02:26.blue-collar, average worker versus Leeds. He said he demanded the pipe

:02:27. > :02:31.was built here. That's hitting it out of the park. Talking about

:02:32. > :02:36.negotiations, he also brought up air force on. As I was listening to

:02:37. > :02:40.this, most people understand why you need two planes and you have someone

:02:41. > :02:48.as important as the president of the United States. Did think it was

:02:49. > :02:52.right for him to bring those negotiations out of the public? He

:02:53. > :03:00.says he is the businessman, he does the deals. It is all very well doing

:03:01. > :03:04.some of those things, like the deal with the Prime Minister in Japan,

:03:05. > :03:08.people like that language, but it is very hard to translate that to

:03:09. > :03:12.geopolitics and all of the big structures. He picks on this little

:03:13. > :03:18.emblematic things. What he will have to start doing the things. The

:03:19. > :03:24.Middle East solution, he says they will build safe zones, but that's

:03:25. > :03:28.impossible to do. Simplistic lines like, we will get rid of all the bad

:03:29. > :03:38.guys. I'm going to end drugs coming to America. Well, good luck with

:03:39. > :03:42.that. The businessman, the instruction is always to say, of

:03:43. > :03:48.course I can, then figure it out later. You can sell that stuff but

:03:49. > :03:52.you could say the same thing when John F. Kennedy said, we will put a

:03:53. > :03:56.man on the moon in ten years. That was an ask and they did it. At least

:03:57. > :04:00.he has the impetus and the push forward to motivate and to change

:04:01. > :04:04.the level of confidence in America and I think that's part of what

:04:05. > :04:08.being a leader is. Again, Reagan wasn't necessarily thinking about

:04:09. > :04:13.the plans himself, he had people to do that, but he could get up in his

:04:14. > :04:19.Uncle Ron sort of way to explain these things. A different style, but

:04:20. > :04:23.it is very Reagan. He referenced wrecks it in his speech and as

:04:24. > :04:29.example of people taking back control. -- referenced Brexit. Some

:04:30. > :04:33.people might think Brexit is a long way from being under control, as

:04:34. > :04:39.there is a lot of uncertainty. It is interesting. One of the most

:04:40. > :04:43.interesting thing is the idea of that you can't trust anything you

:04:44. > :04:50.see on TV and the news. He kept saying they wouldn't pan around at

:04:51. > :04:55.the crowd, but of course not as they will focus on a man the speech. He

:04:56. > :05:01.is very focused on the crowd. I mean, the whole world is watching

:05:02. > :05:09.him. The world is watching this man. 35% tax on goods. He was talking

:05:10. > :05:13.about industry in the country. What did you make of the language that he

:05:14. > :05:18.used? Slightly threatening perhaps? They will pay a big rise if they

:05:19. > :05:23.leave. The interesting thing, and I speak to a lot of people in business

:05:24. > :05:26.and trade and they do have worries about protectionism. But I don't

:05:27. > :05:33.think he will be protectionist. What he didn't say is that the stick, but

:05:34. > :05:36.for most of these companies the main thing is he will bring down business

:05:37. > :05:43.rates. The highest in the world, about 35%. He was about 15%, which

:05:44. > :05:49.is still a benefit for most. So most of these companies will want to come

:05:50. > :05:53.back. He is the type of guy who will bring back... The official estimate

:05:54. > :05:57.is about $3 trillion, it could be as high as $6 trillion that sitting

:05:58. > :06:03.offshore. So as Obama did before him, he is using it in his effective

:06:04. > :06:07.way. If we could lower taxes in a way that brings all of that offshore

:06:08. > :06:11.work back on great, but I think that's very unlikely. By lowering

:06:12. > :06:15.taxes he lowers the revenue he will need to create some of the things he

:06:16. > :06:19.wants to do, like we build the military. It is the argument where

:06:20. > :06:22.on the one hand he says he will cut taxes, but on the other hand he

:06:23. > :06:26.promises all of this sort of infrastructure. Just because we need

:06:27. > :06:32.to go onto the papers, what do you make of your standing on your

:06:33. > :06:37.president of broad? Because you are abroad. The reaction to him.

:06:38. > :06:41.Europeans will never understand him and will look down on him, just as

:06:42. > :06:46.the elites in America look down on him. When he comes over here he will

:06:47. > :06:50.be one step below Hitler and the world's most hated man and it really

:06:51. > :06:55.doesn't matter because it doesn't bother him. In some respects, and I

:06:56. > :07:00.don't want to sound arrogant, but it's a sovereign country that

:07:01. > :07:06.considers itself to be exceptional and always has been. We do try to do

:07:07. > :07:10.the right thing. You know, we will do what we think is right. Shall we

:07:11. > :07:19.go back to the job that we brought you into? That was a distraction!

:07:20. > :07:30.Will start with the Observer. You can lead us, Vincent. The main story

:07:31. > :07:36.is chaos looming for EU citizens who want to stay in Britain. This is a

:07:37. > :07:40.leaked document from Euro-MPs in the European Parliament and they say the

:07:41. > :07:44.trouble is that when we finally have Brexit, the status of the EU

:07:45. > :07:48.citizens in Britain is uncertain. We already know this and Theresa May

:07:49. > :07:54.say she will solve it. It is still quite unclear and the MPs say that

:07:55. > :08:00.we do not have good emigration records and what will the status of

:08:01. > :08:04.these people be? The suggestion is that many EU citizens living in the

:08:05. > :08:09.UK, possibly millions of them, will be in a stranded illegal no man's

:08:10. > :08:13.land. This is some of the problems that people like Donald Trump and

:08:14. > :08:20.who wants to take back control, the Observer is saying control is

:08:21. > :08:25.lacking. And I say fake news. I do think we have had all of these

:08:26. > :08:30.Brexit scare stories and for every story that goes this way it could

:08:31. > :08:34.also go that way. Immigration was never the problem for me. I know I

:08:35. > :08:40.was fought along those lines but for me it was about having control over

:08:41. > :08:43.immigration not the EU Commission. This is something that will be

:08:44. > :08:49.sorted out. I'm not worried about the people who are already here.

:08:50. > :08:52.Most of them fall under a grandfather clause, if you are

:08:53. > :08:57.already here you should still be entitled to that and we still have

:08:58. > :09:00.two years to work out Article 50. I can understand the problems but if

:09:01. > :09:06.you were worried about every obstacle, then we would never put a

:09:07. > :09:09.man on the moon. Let us stick with Brexit because in the Sunday Times

:09:10. > :09:15.they link at Brexit with foreign aid. What is this? This is a Donald

:09:16. > :09:21.Trump out of the deal. The ministers are at war over plans to divert

:09:22. > :09:26.foreign aid spending from wherever it goes to Eastern Bloc countries in

:09:27. > :09:33.the EU. We were talking before, Poland and who else? Hungary? But we

:09:34. > :09:37.want to buy off our friends within the European Union to make it so we

:09:38. > :09:42.have people on the inside helping us negotiate our way out and who knows?

:09:43. > :09:46.We could be speeding along the exit of other countries. You never know.

:09:47. > :09:53.This is an internecine war between departments. You can't use this

:09:54. > :09:57.money to spend in Europe, it needs to go elsewhere. Many people

:09:58. > :10:01.listening to this are wondering why we would centred elsewhere. Why

:10:02. > :10:05.don't we use it and keep it here? That is the purest version of the

:10:06. > :10:12.article, that is what people in the UK want. Cash that is prompting to

:10:13. > :10:19.wasteful products as referred to. You get into an argument about

:10:20. > :10:24.whether or not you have foreign aid, is a better spent in Asia and Africa

:10:25. > :10:29.or somewhere like India which has a fast-growing economy or should you

:10:30. > :10:37.be putting it into eastern European countries where you can love rigid

:10:38. > :10:41.trade deal. And the point of this story is that officials in Downing

:10:42. > :10:44.Street and we can use it to get a good trade deal. Money spent should

:10:45. > :10:48.benefit this country. Countries work on their own self-interest. There

:10:49. > :10:52.have been stories in the past of deals gone awry because there is so

:10:53. > :10:58.much cash to get rid of we don't know what to do with it. They have

:10:59. > :11:03.to meet funding goals so Germany will not spend 2% on defence towards

:11:04. > :11:11.Nato will hearing today but meanwhile we have cash rolling

:11:12. > :11:16.around under a bomb with the 4 billion years to help Iranians.

:11:17. > :11:22.Sitting there on the at an airport. It makes you wonder. In talking

:11:23. > :11:27.about foreign aid, India says they never asked for it but they were

:11:28. > :11:37.given it. Yes. This is the Indian High Commissioner and his wife. They

:11:38. > :11:45.say they never asked for foreign aid, is said they were thinking. Why

:11:46. > :11:48.does India get it? They have a fast improving economy. He does say that

:11:49. > :11:54.is a win-win situation for them and the sky is the limit for the two

:11:55. > :11:58.countries together. So it is a very positive interview but it is used by

:11:59. > :12:01.the Sunday Express rather sceptically about how the money is

:12:02. > :12:06.spent is another example should this money really be going to India?

:12:07. > :12:12.India is quite a balkanised country in many ways. There is a huge middle

:12:13. > :12:16.class and a huge amount of money. But there are still extremely poor

:12:17. > :12:26.areas and there is still an argument for spending international aid. I

:12:27. > :12:29.think the Institute of economic affairs points out that it is money

:12:30. > :12:35.that goes from our poor to their reach. The money always goes to the

:12:36. > :12:38.wrong places. Best aid is people coming to this country and working

:12:39. > :12:44.and sending a portion of their hard earned money back home. For things

:12:45. > :12:51.that they care about instead of just being dumped without any idea of

:12:52. > :12:56.where it is going. Russia is allegedly involved in an

:12:57. > :13:06.assassination plot. This one is just amazing. To the point where we need

:13:07. > :13:16.to queue the James Bond theme. The Kremlin, according to MI5 or MI6...

:13:17. > :13:21.MI6. And people in the United States have researched this. The Kremlin

:13:22. > :13:25.had plotted to oust the Montenegro government, kill the Prime Minister

:13:26. > :13:30.and take over the Parliament. And this is the opening scene of a Bond

:13:31. > :13:35.film. They had a pair of people who are setting this up and had spent

:13:36. > :13:38.months organising it. The two people spent months is overseeing the

:13:39. > :13:42.recruitment and equipping of a small force of Serbian nationals to attack

:13:43. > :13:53.the Parliament building disguised as a local police and an kill the Prime

:13:54. > :14:00.Minister. I mean that... And not just on any day, but on election

:14:01. > :14:03.day. So despite the difficulties with and assassinations, they were

:14:04. > :14:08.going to do it on a particular day as well. They are trying to deny

:14:09. > :14:11.that they are not making a good president about it are they? The

:14:12. > :14:16.heart is about Russian meddling. Talking about the Defence Secretary

:14:17. > :14:19.were they won about a change in the way the Kremlin medals and

:14:20. > :14:28.countries. It feeds into that broad theme of meddling across Europe and

:14:29. > :14:31.across the world. An increasing sense of alarm amongst government

:14:32. > :14:37.sources because of the closeness of America to Vladimir Putin as well

:14:38. > :14:40.and that is one of the problems. Where it gets interesting is that

:14:41. > :14:44.Vladimir Putin is making the argument that this is a form of

:14:45. > :14:50.expansionism. Nato... That is the moral equivalent that does not

:14:51. > :14:53.equate. Countries joining Nato for their own defence. This is markedly

:14:54. > :14:59.different from expansion of the Russian Federation. Did we point out

:15:00. > :15:02.that the reason they were doing this, allegedly, is because they

:15:03. > :15:10.were not too happy about the plans of Montenegro to join Nato? Exactly.

:15:11. > :15:16.Vincent. Take a screw the story dominating the front of the Mail on

:15:17. > :15:20.Sunday? A couple of pages inside as well. More on the allegations

:15:21. > :15:26.against the former Prime Minister Sir Ted Heath. He was accused of sex

:15:27. > :15:30.crimes. One of the many people in the Westminster release was put in

:15:31. > :15:39.the frame for this. It seems largely to centre on the fact that police,

:15:40. > :15:44.the police chief who started this enquiry about a year ago is

:15:45. > :15:51.convinced according to the source, that Ted Heath is 120% guilty.

:15:52. > :15:58.People around him said he could not do these crimes because he could not

:15:59. > :16:03.drive a car yet photos have emerged of Ted Heath posing in a car. It has

:16:04. > :16:08.reignited the idea of these allegations and the Mail on Sunday's

:16:09. > :16:14.line is that it is a witch-hunt. We saw in Britain and we have seen it

:16:15. > :16:22.before. The same territory here. The question we are being asked is

:16:23. > :16:27.assured these allegations still be being investigated by police at a

:16:28. > :16:33.huge cost? I will jump in there. I would like to really touch on the

:16:34. > :16:38.link and story. Do you have the sport pages? In the meantime, off

:16:39. > :16:41.the back of the story, there is a statement that has been released

:16:42. > :16:45.now, a statement by the Wiltshire police and I will go through the

:16:46. > :16:51.main lines here. The chief Constable states in an open letter published

:16:52. > :16:57.back in December 2016 that it is his role to ensure the investigation is

:16:58. > :17:01.necessary. If abuse has occurred then it remains relevant to support

:17:02. > :17:06.those affected and to seek to bring to justice any person still living

:17:07. > :17:09.who may have committed associated criminal offences. It is important

:17:10. > :17:16.to identify any vulnerable individuals who require

:17:17. > :17:19.safeguarding. The role of the police service is to impartially

:17:20. > :17:23.investigate allegations that without fear or favour and go where the

:17:24. > :17:30.evidence takes us. We'll see where this goes but it is sorry that was

:17:31. > :17:36.ongoing. Now, Lincoln City. I would like to recuse myself. I may not

:17:37. > :17:41.understand this. It is just a massive story. A huge story. The

:17:42. > :17:50.argument that a nonleague club could do so well. And the back of the Mail

:17:51. > :17:59.on Sunday, is that it is Linc-possible. Leicester City is

:18:00. > :18:05.out, isn't it? Yes. They are out. They are not having a wonderful

:18:06. > :18:11.season. So you are in the final eight? The quarter-finals? Yes. A

:18:12. > :18:14.few games away from the final. Our chances of winning are slim but the

:18:15. > :18:19.chances of them getting this far with slim. We love these fairytale

:18:20. > :18:23.stories from the footballing world. It is nice to see a change about in

:18:24. > :18:27.big names are a lot of people. And especially for the fans. I should

:18:28. > :18:33.have put a bet on. That would have been better. I did not put a dent on

:18:34. > :18:37.Trump either so... Charlie and Vincent, thank you very much. -- did

:18:38. > :18:48.not put a bet on Trump either. You can read a detailed review of

:18:49. > :19:00.the papers on our website. Seven days a week on BBC .co .uk. We have

:19:01. > :19:04.each night's edition of the paper posted on the site shortly after we

:19:05. > :19:06.finish. Thank you very much to my guests and stay tuned here to BBC

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