27/02/2017

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:00:17. > :00:20.Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be

:00:21. > :00:25.With me are Laura Perrins, Co-Editor of The Conservative Women

:00:26. > :00:27.and Joe Watts, Political Editor at The Independent.

:00:28. > :00:30.Tomorrow's front pages, starting with...

:00:31. > :00:33.The i leads with John Major's first speech since the Brexit vote,

:00:34. > :00:38.The Express reports reports that the government could announce

:00:39. > :00:41.an end to the free movement of people on the day it

:00:42. > :00:47.The Telegraph picks up the story that UKIP is facing civil war

:00:48. > :00:52.after Nigel Farage called on the party to oust its sole

:00:53. > :01:06.The Metro shows the shock that last night's Oscar

:01:07. > :01:35.And the Daily Mail says that TV licence inspectors are targeting

:01:36. > :01:54.vulnerable people. John Major's speech at Chatham

:01:55. > :01:59.House. The i pretty summed it up. John Major is second-guessing the

:02:00. > :02:06.British people as what the best way is to approach Brexit. We have moved

:02:07. > :02:12.from project fear, to project smear and B are now at project pathetic.

:02:13. > :02:19.We had Tony Blair last week. I think things are getting a bit desperate.

:02:20. > :02:29.No one is showing contempt for the 40% who voted to remain. What's

:02:30. > :02:32.important is the 60% who were polled last week who said they want the

:02:33. > :02:38.Prime Minister to get on with Brexit, which is what she is doing.

:02:39. > :02:43.It was suggested that in London, which voted Remain, they thought

:02:44. > :02:50.immigration should be the priority and not trade. Was John Major out of

:02:51. > :03:03.the public? I then think so. I think what we are seeing here... Let him

:03:04. > :03:06.talk. I can feel the heat coming off of her. There has been some real

:03:07. > :03:10.opposition and the government is being held to account in a way we

:03:11. > :03:15.have not seen the elected politicians in the House of Commons

:03:16. > :03:19.doing. We've had Tony Blair making a speech, Lord Mandelson has been

:03:20. > :03:24.writing all over the place, now John Major. They are making real point

:03:25. > :03:27.about the way the government is approaching Brexit, about the way

:03:28. > :03:35.they are trying to railroad the Article 50 bill through without it

:03:36. > :03:47.being amended. Now they are trying to suggest... I knew she would not

:03:48. > :03:50.last long. Laurie, what -- Laura what is unhealthy about the country

:03:51. > :03:55.debating what Brexit means? Nobody knew until the last few weeks what

:03:56. > :03:59.it meant. They can continue to debate, I'd does them think people

:04:00. > :04:05.will listen to him or Tony Blair or whoever they will at next week. They

:04:06. > :04:08.are not very credible. John Major's record in Europe has been

:04:09. > :04:15.disastrous. He railroaded Britain into Maastricht. It is not about

:04:16. > :04:20.John Major or Tony Blair it's about the message. The messenger is very

:04:21. > :04:24.important, as we all know in politics. These two former prime

:04:25. > :04:33.ministers are discredited. If is the tactic, it's fine. Fill your boots.

:04:34. > :04:36.If that is the best they've got, I will be sleeping easy tonight. I

:04:37. > :04:41.would suggest that as time goes on and the economy starts to feel some

:04:42. > :04:47.of the strain of Brexit, then the message will carry a bit more

:04:48. > :04:53.weight. The Telegraph picks up on the fact that Mr major says leaving

:04:54. > :04:59.the EU is an historic mistake. He did also say in his speech that he

:05:00. > :05:02.accept the EU is not perfect. It's not all fantastic, but he was

:05:03. > :05:07.highlighting what he felt were major concerns about the government's

:05:08. > :05:13.handling of the Brexit negotiations and the dealings with EU leaders as

:05:14. > :05:18.well. Quite a scathing attack. Its scathing and bitter. It says more

:05:19. > :05:22.about him than it does about the Prime Minister, who I think is doing

:05:23. > :05:26.a fantastic job. I think he is going to come out of this worse off than

:05:27. > :05:36.the Prime Minister is. He is entitled to his opinion and people

:05:37. > :05:39.like yourself like to hear it, but it's amazing how the BBC now love

:05:40. > :05:45.John Major. When he was in power they hated him. They absolutely

:05:46. > :05:51.slammed him. We absolutely never take sides. We are very impartial,

:05:52. > :05:58.Laura. It is a cheek for you to say that. The government and Theresa May

:05:59. > :06:03.are talking about what they want from the Brexit deal. They haven't

:06:04. > :06:07.said anything about what we will have to pay. No one is being told

:06:08. > :06:11.that at the moment. That is a massive black hole in the debate and

:06:12. > :06:21.all he is doing is saying look, will be to start talking about this. The

:06:22. > :06:25.Daily Telegraph also poses the question, what now. They've

:06:26. > :06:28.interviewed Nigel Farage. How do you keep go forward now that Brexit is

:06:29. > :06:42.happening. Nigel Farage suggesting they get rid of the only standing

:06:43. > :06:48.MP. That is Ukip's problem. Theresa May is going forward with Brexit in

:06:49. > :06:55.a coherent fashion. If there is any slippage on the part of May, they'll

:06:56. > :06:59.be relevant and important again. I don't know how you can get rid of

:07:00. > :07:03.Douglas Carswell. He is either unelected by his constituents or he

:07:04. > :07:09.withdraws the whip from himself, which seems unlikely. It points to

:07:10. > :07:16.the underlying ridiculousness of Ukip. They only have this one MP who

:07:17. > :07:20.is a constant odds with other people in the party, people like Nigel

:07:21. > :07:24.Farage and Adam Banks, who is always demanding to take over the party.

:07:25. > :07:35.You never know with Ukip. At any moment Nigel Farage cle comeback. It

:07:36. > :07:42.looks as if he had Aaron Banks on his side. Tough new migrant rules.

:07:43. > :07:47.Free movement could be ended within weeks. This is something that may be

:07:48. > :07:53.not everyone thought about, that the rules kick in when article $50. It

:07:54. > :07:58.will be interesting to see if it is when Article 50 is triggered or at

:07:59. > :08:02.the end of the negotiations. Whatever the migration rules are,

:08:03. > :08:07.they need to be decided in Westminster and not Brussels. It's

:08:08. > :08:13.decided by democracy as opposed to bureaucracy in Brussels. When the

:08:14. > :08:15.bill goes through there will be suitable scrutiny and an examination

:08:16. > :08:21.of what the law should be, which is how democracy works. Whether or not

:08:22. > :08:27.it does happen when Article 50 is triggered, everybody... The

:08:28. > :08:31.important point is that everyone is given adequate notice, it can be

:08:32. > :08:35.done retroactively and if rules change when Article 50 is triggered,

:08:36. > :08:40.that is there enough in terms of notice given to people coming into

:08:41. > :08:46.the country. Let's move the Times. The headline there that will worry

:08:47. > :08:50.many people. Don't lock-up loneliest paedophiles. This is a quote from

:08:51. > :08:56.the police. The public will be horrified. Give us the background.

:08:57. > :09:01.This is Britain's most senior child protection officer saying the police

:09:02. > :09:08.have been inundated with investigations into child sex abuse,

:09:09. > :09:13.into paedophilia and the rise has been 80% in three years. They are

:09:14. > :09:16.getting 112 new complaint today and they expect a further 40,000 to the

:09:17. > :09:22.official enquiry that is happening into historic child sex abuse. They

:09:23. > :09:29.are saying they are over spilling and they can't do with it and

:09:30. > :09:33.because of that some of the lesser offences will have to be

:09:34. > :09:37.decriminalised. That is going to horrify most people and even he

:09:38. > :09:41.acknowledges that this stance will horrified a lot of people. He is

:09:42. > :09:46.saying we have no choice. The question seems to be of resources,

:09:47. > :09:50.or at least he is raising that here. Is it the simply a question of

:09:51. > :09:55.money? Can you solve this problem by hiring more police officers? I don't

:09:56. > :09:59.know if it will be as simple as that, nonetheless it will be a

:10:00. > :10:05.shocking story. In some ways it's reassuring that people are

:10:06. > :10:09.overwhelmed with stories because people feel they can step forward

:10:10. > :10:13.and report. It's not just the question of not locking them up

:10:14. > :10:18.because if you are convicted of something you can also receive a

:10:19. > :10:22.non-custodial sentence, but what worries me about this is that he is

:10:23. > :10:26.saying they shouldn't be given any criminal sanction which could have a

:10:27. > :10:29.knock-on effect. If it is not on your record you will be free to what

:10:30. > :10:36.were children. That is the first issue, and also looking at indecent

:10:37. > :10:41.images, it is wrong to say that this is a victimless crime. The poor

:10:42. > :10:55.children in those images, and there is a scale from minor to incredibly

:10:56. > :11:03.dangerous image eens -- images, and I think they are level five, to say

:11:04. > :11:07.it is victimless is wrong. It points to this idea that they are trying to

:11:08. > :11:12.slightly change the way society views these crimes and I think a lot

:11:13. > :11:17.of people across the political spectrum will probably agree that

:11:18. > :11:21.actually the way we see it as a horrific crime at the moment is

:11:22. > :11:25.right. You can deal with the sentencing in a different way, but

:11:26. > :11:34.there should be a criminal sanction. The Guardian. It devotes a lot of

:11:35. > :11:37.hits from to politics in America, unlike other papers. Trump plans a

:11:38. > :11:45.huge increase in US military spending. A wonderful you have to

:11:46. > :11:54.give credit to Trump. He made a lot of promises in his election campaign

:11:55. > :11:58.and he is delivering on his bonkers promises. He said he will remove

:11:59. > :12:07.spending from environmental policy and from eight spending as well.

:12:08. > :12:19.They're trying to redirect spending in those areas to be military. Trump

:12:20. > :12:27.has promised to reinvigorate industry in a Rocca as well and it's

:12:28. > :12:32.a very easy way to do that, by building new tanks, ships, whatever

:12:33. > :12:37.the needs. Defending your country is not a bonkers promise. I like the

:12:38. > :12:45.protection that the United States give us, as you do also. Italy take

:12:46. > :12:50.advantage of it, even though they spent hardly anything on the

:12:51. > :12:57.military. People are being protected by the American military, who

:12:58. > :13:02.liberated Europe from fascism. Putting that to one side, he is

:13:03. > :13:05.entitled to fulfil his electoral promise to defend his country and I

:13:06. > :13:12.think anybody who doesn't think defending your own country, liberty

:13:13. > :13:21.and security should take a long hard look at themselves. But it comes at

:13:22. > :13:29.eight cost to other areas. It is causing a lot of concern. It's only

:13:30. > :13:35.causing concern to those opposed to Trump. We have to leave it there,

:13:36. > :13:37.but many thanks for the interesting discussion. We will continue that.

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