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:00:00. > 3:59:59coming in for his injured Ulster team-mate Andrew Trimble Rob Kearney

:00:00. > :00:00.picked upn a groin injury in their win over the French

:00:00. > :00:18.Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be

:00:19. > :00:21.With me are Ruth Lea, Economic Adviser at Arbuthnot

:00:22. > :00:24.Banking Group, and Caroline Wheeler, Political Editor at

:00:25. > :00:40.Good to see you both, it has been an interesting day. We start with the

:00:41. > :00:44.Telegraph and its take on the budget is the Tories have broken their

:00:45. > :00:49.manifesto pledge not to raise taxes. The Guardian described the

:00:50. > :00:58.Chancellor is falling into a tax trap over his approach to national

:00:59. > :01:08.insurance. The Times describes the policy as a tax on red, while the

:01:09. > :01:19.express says Philip Philip Hammond is laying down the tracks for the

:01:20. > :01:26.Brexit move. The Daily Express asks what is so funny. The mail shows a

:01:27. > :01:29.picture of Philip Hammond and says it is no laughing matter. All the

:01:30. > :01:39.references are to joked and laughed. This is a man who is supposed to be

:01:40. > :01:44.very dour, a spreadsheet guy, a policy wonk, but he is cracking

:01:45. > :01:50.jokes as if he was Les Dawson. The most surprising thing about his

:01:51. > :01:56.budget speech was that because we knew it. We knew there would be

:01:57. > :02:03.extra money for social care, education, Betty level, or help for

:02:04. > :02:08.business rates. We read about the national insurance contributions

:02:09. > :02:15.rising and we knew the OBR would be changing their forecast. So the

:02:16. > :02:20.jokes were the surprise. But still it has to be said, Caroline, the

:02:21. > :02:24.front page of The Times, Philip Hammond's ?2 billion tax rate. The

:02:25. > :02:30.indications were that this was going to happen, he was going to have to

:02:31. > :02:37.do something about social care and he would have to find the money

:02:38. > :03:01.somewhere and that national insurers would be the area that was hit, but

:03:02. > :03:02.it was still a shock. We had an indication this was

:03:03. > :03:04.thinking was going. It is surprising the Conservative Chancellor would

:03:05. > :03:10.electricians, the make-up artists who have just done our make up. The

:03:11. > :03:15.idea is was that an impact assessment done on this? Theresa May

:03:16. > :03:20.said she was a country that works for everyone and not just the

:03:21. > :03:24.does not extend to those people who does not extend to those people who

:03:25. > :03:28.are self employed seem surprising to many of us, that these are the

:03:29. > :03:35.losers of this budget, when there will be many of those who are in the

:03:36. > :03:39.bracket. Also people who are running their own businesses who are self

:03:40. > :03:43.employed, many of them are the backbone of this country, the small

:03:44. > :03:48.shopkeepers, the people who do all those jobs that we need them to do.

:03:49. > :03:55.The idea they will be worse off as a result of this is a surprise. I got

:03:56. > :04:00.a tweet earlier saying the BBC, the BBC, you are so negative about the

:04:01. > :04:06.budget. I am self employed, I do not mind paying a little extra because

:04:07. > :04:10.the money will go to social care. That is very generous of that

:04:11. > :04:14.particular lady, but I would like to add to what Caroline said about the

:04:15. > :04:18.self employed. It is not just national insurance contributions

:04:19. > :04:24.that will be increased. There is the dividend allowance and if you are an

:04:25. > :04:29.incorporated self-employed person you can pay a dividend. The current

:04:30. > :04:36.allowance is ?5,000 and it will be cut down to ?2000. Plus the flat

:04:37. > :04:40.rate VAT scheme which is rather technical, there will be a

:04:41. > :04:45.disadvantage there. For the self employed, and I include myself in

:04:46. > :04:52.that bracket, there are now three different measures which have made

:04:53. > :04:56.it more difficult for people to be self-employed and to produce the

:04:57. > :04:59.incentive is to be self-employed. It is already difficult because you do

:05:00. > :05:06.not get holiday pay, sick pay, maternity pay. But that is part of

:05:07. > :05:09.the argument. What he is doing, as well as finding money for social

:05:10. > :05:16.care, is bringing parity between those who are employed with staff

:05:17. > :05:21.jobs and contracts and those who are freelance because they have been out

:05:22. > :05:26.of kilter. In terms of what they pay, but in terms of the benefits,

:05:27. > :05:32.he says they can get away with it because they have already tinkered

:05:33. > :05:38.with the state pension. The self-employed are now entitled to a

:05:39. > :05:44.full state pension. But if I am sick and I work for a company, I will be

:05:45. > :05:50.paid. It is a hassle being self employed, not least of all doing the

:05:51. > :05:56.VAT returns. I feel I deserve that bit of extra money! It is a hassle

:05:57. > :06:03.being self-employed. Let's go on to the Daily Telegraph. In this story

:06:04. > :06:07.it is the fact that before the 20 15th election the Conservatives said

:06:08. > :06:13.they would not raise taxes. In fact, the Daily Telegraph has on the front

:06:14. > :06:19.very commitment to you from that manifesto, no increases in VAT,

:06:20. > :06:25.national insurance contributions and income tax. They have broken a

:06:26. > :06:29.promise. I am afraid they have. If I may change the subject, I agree with

:06:30. > :06:36.that... You want to talk about Barcelona winning? It is interesting

:06:37. > :06:43.income tax is mentioned. What did not come out in this budget is that

:06:44. > :06:46.personal allowances will go up and April ?211,500 and the high rates

:06:47. > :06:53.will go up and that was not mentioned at all. If I had been

:06:54. > :06:58.Philip Hammond, I would have set I have got a nasty surprise for the

:06:59. > :07:02.self employed, but do not worry, I am putting personal allowances up.

:07:03. > :07:10.He mentioned the living wage is going up to ?7.50. He could have

:07:11. > :07:15.sugared the bill a bit. You are right about the tax break, but it is

:07:16. > :07:19.more than that, it is an ideological break which is something we have

:07:20. > :07:25.seen to read a good time and time again. From the moment she appointed

:07:26. > :07:29.her own Cabinet and sacked all the Notting Hill set and brought in her

:07:30. > :07:33.own people, she signalled a break with the camera an agenda which was

:07:34. > :07:38.very much in tune with George Osborne in terms of bringing taxes

:07:39. > :07:43.down and making the state as small as possible. It seems Philip Hammond

:07:44. > :07:46.is cut from a different cloth. Allister Heath's commentary in the

:07:47. > :07:52.Telegraph is very much talking about this idea that there are two camps.

:07:53. > :07:57.Those who believe the state should be involved and they should raise

:07:58. > :08:01.lots of taxes and do lots of things, and those who think you should step

:08:02. > :08:04.back and keep taxes low and let other sectors take on

:08:05. > :08:10.responsibility. Theresa May and Philip Hammond believed they can get

:08:11. > :08:16.away with breaking a policy pledge because there is no one to pick them

:08:17. > :08:22.up on it. Is that the implication? The Labour Party are whatever and

:08:23. > :08:30.the SNP have however many MPs, but they can get away with it. That is

:08:31. > :08:43.right. The Labour Party is polling 25%, that is extraordinary. Labour

:08:44. > :08:44.and the opposition generally are pretty good at flagging up

:08:45. > :08:49.warning signs. They have been going on for several weeks about the rate

:08:50. > :08:54.rises, so they were on message today. They saw that storm brewing

:08:55. > :08:59.and they headed it off today. They put in changes to business rates

:09:00. > :09:05.which have been causing such as headache to the government in these

:09:06. > :09:09.last couple of weeks. But what they did not do with this one is the

:09:10. > :09:13.opposition were not on the ball enough to see this coming, so the

:09:14. > :09:17.government did not get the warning signs they would often get when they

:09:18. > :09:22.could see that they are walking into trouble. When I read about the

:09:23. > :09:26.national insurance contributions last week it was described as

:09:27. > :09:31.controversial. It was not as if this was not controversial... Clearly

:09:32. > :09:39.they did not make anything out of it. They have already won a

:09:40. > :09:43.by-election. Copeland. In a way they should not have done. But on the

:09:44. > :09:48.front page of the Guardian, Philip Hammond falls into a tax trap. What

:09:49. > :09:54.are they trying to get across? It is the notion that they have broken a

:09:55. > :10:03.manifesto pledge which in political terms is a no-no. They cannot be

:10:04. > :10:06.trusted. Exactly. It is you implicating and implementing

:10:07. > :10:11.something which you yourself have said is bad. In that sense it is a

:10:12. > :10:17.trap. Again we come back to who is going to pull them up on this trap?

:10:18. > :10:22.Is the Labour Party going to be able to make enough noise on this issue

:10:23. > :10:28.that it will force Philip Hammond into a U-turn. In this instance you

:10:29. > :10:30.will see more of a noise on the Conservative backbenchers because

:10:31. > :10:36.they know they will harm more of their own. We have already seen

:10:37. > :10:39.rumblings in the 1922 committee, which is usually a barometer of

:10:40. > :10:44.where things stand in the Conservative Party and people like

:10:45. > :10:50.John Redwood have been speaking this evening saying it was a daft idea, a

:10:51. > :10:55.tax on enterprise. That is the trap and it is if he will get out of it

:10:56. > :11:00.now. I do not think he will do a U-turn. Most of the papers are

:11:01. > :11:08.running on the same story. That is the irony. There is something about

:11:09. > :11:13.the economy as well. Some of this money is going to social care, that

:11:14. > :11:18.was a big issue going into the budget. He has made an effort to try

:11:19. > :11:23.and deal with that, although many people are saying 3 million over the

:11:24. > :11:28.next few years, 1 million this year and 2 million later on, that is not

:11:29. > :11:33.enough. It cannot be enough, especially in the longer term

:11:34. > :11:38.dealing with an ageing population. I think funding social care and the

:11:39. > :11:43.paper they are bringing out is well overdue. The truth is we have to

:11:44. > :11:49.think very hard as we get an ageing population how we will fund social

:11:50. > :11:55.care and the NHS. This debate has hardly begun. We need to have it. It

:11:56. > :12:04.is difficult for him if you have this kind of red as it is being

:12:05. > :12:11.portrayed. Despite van man. That is the front page. The Sun newspaper is

:12:12. > :12:17.making the point that the Chancellor is hitting the self employed. We

:12:18. > :12:21.have seen the number of self-employed rise dramatically in

:12:22. > :12:26.the last few years. It is appealing to its readers, many of whom are

:12:27. > :12:34.white van men and women. They have been hit by this. The problem he has

:12:35. > :12:38.got is that self-employed people fall into every walk of life. They

:12:39. > :12:44.will be people earning lots of money right at the top like barristers.

:12:45. > :12:48.But the problem he has got is the notion he is kind of robbing Peter

:12:49. > :12:53.to pay Paul in terms of the social care crisis and the problem he stuck

:12:54. > :13:00.with it he has not solved the social care crisis. 1 billion pounds this

:13:01. > :13:03.year is less than a third of what the local authorities are predicting

:13:04. > :13:09.is the black hole in the funding formula for this year alone. He is

:13:10. > :13:14.not solving one problem by creating another and that will be a political

:13:15. > :13:19.nightmare for him. Tax raid on the self-employed, it is smoke and

:13:20. > :13:24.mirrors. It looks as if he is doing something and this 1 billion this

:13:25. > :13:29.year to immediately inject some cash in the system will help. I know some

:13:30. > :13:34.local authorities are pleased about that, but there has to be a

:13:35. > :13:40.strategic vision about where we go in terms of social care stop

:13:41. > :13:44.absolutely and this is why I will be interested to see the green paper

:13:45. > :13:49.when it comes out. There has been a debate, but it has not been pushed

:13:50. > :13:52.hard enough. It is not a new issue and a lot of reports have looked

:13:53. > :13:59.into this subject, but nothing substantive has changed. I wrote a

:14:00. > :14:03.piece on the NHS 15 years ago saying it was not sustainable because we

:14:04. > :14:07.had an ageing population and increasingly expensive treatments

:14:08. > :14:12.and it was pushed into the long grass. Those issues will come back

:14:13. > :14:20.time and time again. That statistic is really striking, every child at

:14:21. > :14:28.this point today, one in three, will live to about 100. On that very

:14:29. > :14:31.population, ageing by the minute. It population, ageing by the minute. It

:14:32. > :14:38.is a bottomless pit. This is why you is a bottomless pit. This is why you

:14:39. > :14:49.have to start thinking of other means of financing that and

:14:50. > :14:49.inevitably it will be some sort of insurance system. The Daily Express.

:14:50. > :14:54.The wider implications budget. This is paving the way for a

:14:55. > :14:57.smooth EU exit. Cautious Philip Hammond repairs Britain to break

:14:58. > :15:06.with Brussels. That is really the autumn budget. Article 50 will have

:15:07. > :15:10.been triggered. Yes, absolutely. It is a different interpretation of the

:15:11. > :15:14.same story, but they have tried to put a slightly more positive spin on

:15:15. > :15:24.it, although they have the same strapline. What they are trying to

:15:25. > :15:27.suggest is the forecasts in terms of government spending forecasts have

:15:28. > :15:32.been pessimistic. We know Brexit looks a bit rosier than we thought,

:15:33. > :15:40.which gives us a float as we set sail for Brexit. Set sail! It could

:15:41. > :15:45.happen in a week that we trigger Article 50. There are other

:15:46. > :15:49.suggestions it may not be until the end of the month. But the idea that

:15:50. > :15:55.we are going into this project is a bit of a leap in the unknown with

:15:56. > :15:57.the wind in our sales from the economy is something the Daily

:15:58. > :16:04.Express feels their readers want to read about. Because of the OBR's

:16:05. > :16:09.favourable forecast for the next 12 months at least he has got a bit

:16:10. > :16:14.more petrol in the tank as well, but he will not splash it out. He will

:16:15. > :16:21.save it in case the headwinds do get a bit choppy. He is right to do

:16:22. > :16:26.that. Even if it was not for Brexit, we need fiscal discipline in this

:16:27. > :16:34.country. We have still got a deficit of 2.5% of the GDP. Our debt is

:16:35. > :16:40.about 85% of GDP, it is enormous. You would still need some austerity.

:16:41. > :16:46.But this story is interesting because the OBR has been obliged to

:16:47. > :16:49.push up its forecast to 2%. Yet again he is forecasting

:16:50. > :16:53.organisations have been caught by the fact they were all terribly

:16:54. > :16:59.negative about what was going to happen. I was saying it was going to

:17:00. > :17:04.be fine. I was a maverick. If you are a maverick and you are wrong,

:17:05. > :17:09.you are wrong. If you are a group thinker and you are wrong, you are

:17:10. > :17:15.right. The predictions were on Article 50 being triggered on June

:17:16. > :17:25.the 25th. And a lot were not. That is true. It would not have made any

:17:26. > :17:28.difference. We will never know. Finally, we are going to mix

:17:29. > :17:35.together the Daily Mail and the Daily Mirror and show our viewers

:17:36. > :17:44.what the front pages are saying. Here they come. The Daily Mirror on

:17:45. > :17:47.the left. What is so funny, Prime Minister? The Daily Mail,

:17:48. > :17:49.laughing matter. Both of them are making the point that he tried to

:17:50. > :17:56.put some jokes in their anti-tried to look beyond the spreadsheet Phil

:17:57. > :18:02.policy geek label, but fundamentally this was a crucial budget in terms

:18:03. > :18:10.of the way that this government looks as it moves towards Brexit.

:18:11. > :18:13.Yes, exactly. Both of them are not normal bedfellows, the Daily Mirror

:18:14. > :18:18.and the Daily Mail. But we have got the same gist. We have got Theresa

:18:19. > :18:24.May and Philip Hammond laughing and the message is that the message that

:18:25. > :18:27.comes out of the budget will not go down particularly well with the

:18:28. > :18:32.readers of the Daily Mirror and the Daily Mail. That is something for

:18:33. > :18:35.the government to worry about. When you are getting papers that are

:18:36. > :18:40.diametrically opposed and they are using the same line, you basically

:18:41. > :18:45.offended both sides of the divide and that is very worrying for her as

:18:46. > :18:54.we are so close to Brexit when we will need all the support we can

:18:55. > :18:59.have. I have been told we have got to end, so there you go. It has been

:19:00. > :19:05.a pleasure looking at some of the stories behind the front pages. All

:19:06. > :19:07.of them have simply been about the budget.

:19:08. > :19:10.Don't forget you can see the front pages of the papers online

:19:11. > :19:14.It's all there for you, seven days a week at bbc.couk/papers.

:19:15. > :19:17.If you miss the programme any evening, you can watch it