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:00:11. > :00:18.We'll be taking a look at tomorrow mornings papers in a moment.

:00:19. > :00:22.You can tell by the laughter that we have already rummaged through them.

:00:23. > :00:27.Ukip's leader Paul Nuttall has described the decision

:00:28. > :00:30.by the party's only MP, Douglas Carswell, to leave

:00:31. > :00:33.Mr Carswell says he'll remain in the House of Commons

:00:34. > :00:36.as an independent MP and is leaving Ukip "amicably and cheerfully."

:00:37. > :00:39.Fire crews are dealing with the aftermath of an explosion

:00:40. > :00:42.on the Wirral that is believed to have been caused

:00:43. > :00:48.The family of PC Keith Palmer, the officer murdered in Westminster,

:00:49. > :00:51.issue a statement thanking those who helped him in his last moments.

:00:52. > :00:58.The US says it's investigating coalition airstrikes that

:00:59. > :01:03.were carried out in western Mosul, killing dozens of civilians.

:01:04. > :01:09.The crew on board the International Space Station think they have found

:01:10. > :01:14.life on Mars in the science-fiction horror film Life. But is all what it

:01:15. > :01:19.seems? Mark Kermode will fill us in on the film review. -- The Film

:01:20. > :01:25.Review. Hello, and welcome to our look ahead

:01:26. > :01:29.to what the the papers will be With me are Ruth Lea, economic

:01:30. > :01:33.adviser for Arbuthnot Banking Group, and John Rentoul, chief political

:01:34. > :01:45.columnist at the Independent. Just before they begin with their

:01:46. > :01:48.thoughts on the papers, let's give you a fighting chance to keep up.

:01:49. > :01:50.Tomorrow's front pages, starting with the Sunday Times,

:01:51. > :01:53.caliming EU migrants living in Britain will continue to get

:01:54. > :01:54.child benefits after Britain leaves the EU.

:01:55. > :01:57.The Observer leads with the coalition air strikes in Mosul,

:01:58. > :02:00.which it says, have killed at least 150 civilians

:02:01. > :02:04.The Sunday Express's front page features the Conservative MP

:02:05. > :02:08.Tobias Ellwood, and says he's spoken for the first time after trying

:02:09. > :02:10.to save PC Keith Palmer in Wednesday's terror attacks.

:02:11. > :02:13.The Mail reports that the air ambulance Prince William co-pilots

:02:14. > :02:15.had a near miss with a drone last summer.

:02:16. > :02:18.The Sunday Telegraph leads with Douglas Carswell's resignation

:02:19. > :02:22.from Ukip, reporting that it's led to a "civil war" within the party.

:02:23. > :02:24.The Independent also has a picture of Douglas Carswell,

:02:25. > :02:28.but its main story features calls for Europe to stick together

:02:29. > :02:42.following the Westminster terror attacks.

:02:43. > :02:51.Welcome back to you both. Ruth, the Sunday express. Tonight we have seen

:02:52. > :02:55.a statement from the family of Keith Palmer. They will have been thinking

:02:56. > :02:59.of this man on the front page of the paper, Tobias Ellwood, the Foreign

:03:00. > :03:04.Office minister. He certainly is a bit of a hero. I thought he behaved

:03:05. > :03:08.excellently. He ran towards the problem and lots of other people

:03:09. > :03:13.were running away. This picture of PC Palmer, he looks so vulnerable,

:03:14. > :03:16.if I may say so. I think the real message of this story is that the

:03:17. > :03:20.security at the front of Parliament will have to be stepped up. You will

:03:21. > :03:24.have to have armed policeman there. At the moment you just have to

:03:25. > :03:30.police officers in high visibility jackets, which really isn't good

:03:31. > :03:33.enough. John, Scotland Yard has been giving us more details tonight in

:03:34. > :03:36.terms of what it knows in the investigation. One of the most

:03:37. > :03:40.striking things I have seen in the last hour is something that suggests

:03:41. > :03:44.that the entire duration of the attack, from the moment the first

:03:45. > :03:50.casualties was hit on the bridge to Keith Palmer being stabbed and then

:03:51. > :03:56.being shot, was one minute and 22 seconds. Yes, 82 seconds.

:03:57. > :04:03.Astonishing. And it was all over. It was all over very quickly. I was

:04:04. > :04:09.working in my office off the press gallery, just beneath Big Ben, and I

:04:10. > :04:13.heard the bang of the car hitting the railings and I thought it was a

:04:14. > :04:17.traffic accident. It sounded witty serious so I went to the window to

:04:18. > :04:21.see what was going on. -- pretty serious. It was very confusing, you

:04:22. > :04:25.couldn't see what was happening until you heard the crack of

:04:26. > :04:30.gunfire. And that was it, it was all over. U2 will know this very well,

:04:31. > :04:33.but the people watching who are not aware of this, we think of

:04:34. > :04:36.Parliament as one building, but it is a kind of rabbit warren of

:04:37. > :04:41.connected buildings and corridors and sellers. -- You two will know.

:04:42. > :04:45.The police would have been searching for hours afterwards to make sure

:04:46. > :04:49.nobody else slipped in during the confusion. I think so. To this idea

:04:50. > :04:52.of armed police, the idea that you do not have armed police around the

:04:53. > :04:57.Parliament is nonsense. There are some armed police. But in 82

:04:58. > :05:01.seconds, my goodness, he caused some damage. And he could have caused a

:05:02. > :05:06.great deal more. He could have killed 30 people. He injured how

:05:07. > :05:10.many, 30? And if there had been more than one person, they could have got

:05:11. > :05:15.into the Parliamentary estate. He was stopped within 20 yards. But if

:05:16. > :05:19.there had been others behind him, the Gates were still open, and the

:05:20. > :05:25.Prime Minister herself was there. She was only 100 yards away. Yes,

:05:26. > :05:30.too vulnerable. People have reported seeing her in new Palace Yard, and

:05:31. > :05:34.then being told to get into a car. This is striking, in the light of

:05:35. > :05:40.what you are saying, this report on the front of the Observer, which

:05:41. > :05:45.suggests that the police may never know now exactly what motivated him.

:05:46. > :05:55.I don't think any of us do. He was an odd character, 52 years old. Most

:05:56. > :05:59.of these jihadists are in their 20s. 52, extraordinary. And of course he

:06:00. > :06:03.was a convert. But what he did, why he did it, nobody will ever know.

:06:04. > :06:08.But it was obviously premeditated. He must have worked out the route.

:06:09. > :06:12.You have to pick the right sort of pavement, in order to do this. He

:06:13. > :06:17.had obviously thought about this quite hard. John, presumably there

:06:18. > :06:20.is a dilemma here for the authorities, all kinds of

:06:21. > :06:25.authorities, because the suggestion is he may have been radicalised in

:06:26. > :06:29.prison. That is a very hard place to provide effective countervailing

:06:30. > :06:33.measures. Absolutely, that is a serious problem. We have had the

:06:34. > :06:38.Prevent programme for more than a decade. Fishermen bleat is quite

:06:39. > :06:44.hard to measure how effective it has been. -- presumably it is quite

:06:45. > :06:48.hard. Has it been able to prevent lots of kids from being radicalised,

:06:49. > :06:52.or not spotted the ones who were in danger? I think the coloured Mahmoud

:06:53. > :06:58.case does raise another question. -- Khalid Masood. To what extent was he

:06:59. > :07:04.really and Islamists terrorists, or was he disturbed individual would

:07:05. > :07:10.management problems? Who just have a rage against society. Obviously

:07:11. > :07:17.there is a sort of lowering between the two in many cases. -- sort of

:07:18. > :07:21.blurring. Police do not like the term loan Wolf, they prefer the term

:07:22. > :07:28.Logan Act. What he has turned out to be a lone actor. And therefore less

:07:29. > :07:31.of a danger to society than he might have been. In an open society you

:07:32. > :07:35.will never stop these things, that is the tragedy. Woosha just clarify

:07:36. > :07:40.the number of casualties. You mentioned the figures, but we think

:07:41. > :07:43.we are down to 14 still in hospital. That is in encouraging sign, the

:07:44. > :07:47.numbers are decreasing all the time. We obviously hope that all of them

:07:48. > :07:51.will be out sooner rather than later. Another story on the front of

:07:52. > :07:55.the Observer, this very interesting story about the Mosul attack. This

:07:56. > :07:58.is one of those stories that bubbles up occasionally and then drops away,

:07:59. > :08:03.and we lose attention on it. But this has been going on for months

:08:04. > :08:07.now. That is right. We were given the impression a long time ago that

:08:08. > :08:16.Mosul was within days of falling to the Iraqi army. But they are still

:08:17. > :08:20.there. They have had to halt the bombing because of civilian

:08:21. > :08:30.casualties. This is a bombing attack that happens more than a week ago.

:08:31. > :08:34.Last week. It does suggest that taking Mosul is turning out to be a

:08:35. > :08:38.much, much bigger and longer struggle than we thought. But you

:08:39. > :08:41.can see they will go back into it, they will assume they will fight and

:08:42. > :08:46.fight and fight until they actually destroy the Isis state. At the

:08:47. > :08:50.moment they just have Raqqa as well, in Syria, and you can see Isis as

:08:51. > :08:54.this caliphate that they talk about, disappearing. My goodness me, the

:08:55. > :08:58.terrorism will continue. Yes, we said pitcher on the front of one of

:08:59. > :09:03.the little girls in a refugee camp, who has been displaced from Mosul.

:09:04. > :09:11.Let's go to your paper, John, the Independent on Sunday, and we have a

:09:12. > :09:13.byline from your good self confidently predicting that Douglas

:09:14. > :09:17.Carswell will rejoin the Conservative Party. I don't know

:09:18. > :09:21.that pictures from this weekend or if it is from the archive. You think

:09:22. > :09:26.it is the end of Ukip is a party? Yes. I think Ukip has been a tenant

:09:27. > :09:33.since the referendum, if not before. The fact that Britain is leading the

:09:34. > :09:37.European Union means there is no point to Ukip. Douglas Carswell has

:09:38. > :09:41.for some time sounded to me like somebody who is going back to the

:09:42. > :09:44.Conservative Party. The only thing that stopped him going straight back

:09:45. > :09:47.across to the Conservative Party is that under his own principles he

:09:48. > :09:52.would have to have a by-election. He doesn't want to do that. I suspect

:09:53. > :09:59.he will join the Conservatives up just make joined the Conservatives

:10:00. > :10:06.just before the next election. I cannot help but think of Winston

:10:07. > :10:11.Churchill's phrase, he ratted and then re-ratted. Douglas Carswell is

:10:12. > :10:15.a Tory and always has been a Tory. As he said himself, as he was being

:10:16. > :10:18.interviewed this afternoon, he joined Ukip because he was so

:10:19. > :10:23.passionate about Brexit. At Brexit is happening. If I was a Ukip

:10:24. > :10:27.minister I would say, that is all very well, but look at the political

:10:28. > :10:30.scene at the moment. We have a Labour Party that is deeply divided

:10:31. > :10:34.and according to the polls deeply unpopular. We have the Liberal

:10:35. > :10:40.Democrats, almost white doubt in the Parliament, they have won a

:10:41. > :10:43.by-election since, but they are still a shadow of what they were

:10:44. > :10:46.several years ago. We have an opening here, a potential here, for

:10:47. > :10:50.a party to challenge the Conservatives. In the Stoke

:10:51. > :10:54.by-election, Ukip's big chance, it failed to make any headway. Ukip

:10:55. > :10:58.could have established itself as a working-class protest party to

:10:59. > :11:05.displace Labour. But it didn't work. It is all over, I'm afraid. The

:11:06. > :11:11.Sunday Times. This is quite a story, on the face of it. EU migrants keep

:11:12. > :11:15.benefits after Brexit. Another Tory manifesto pledge at risk, says Tim

:11:16. > :11:24.Shipman, the paper's little editor. What do you make of it? -- political

:11:25. > :11:26.editor. It goes back to the negotiations David Cameron was

:11:27. > :11:29.having before the referendum to try to renegotiate the terms. This is

:11:30. > :11:35.about the payment of child benefits to EU citizens who are going to be

:11:36. > :11:38.here after Brexit. That is a slightly different category of

:11:39. > :11:44.people eke as those are people that the UK has decided, outside of the

:11:45. > :11:48.freedom of movement of the EU... Because they will no longer have a

:11:49. > :11:53.right to be here. Yes, those other people where we decided they may

:11:54. > :11:58.live here. Therefore the question of where their child benefit goes to is

:11:59. > :12:01.less important, I would suggest. I think that is right. It seems

:12:02. > :12:05.perfectly reasonable that EU migrants who come here should have

:12:06. > :12:11.the same rights. But I like that, another Tory manifesto pledge at

:12:12. > :12:16.risk. Stir, stir, stir. Let's be honest. The Tory manifesto was in

:12:17. > :12:19.2015. Since then there has been a referendum and we are leaving the

:12:20. > :12:24.EU. I think the ground rules have changed. It is nothing like the next

:12:25. > :12:29.manifesto pledge, in my humble opinion. We will take your word on

:12:30. > :12:32.that. We will briefly note that the Sunday Telegraph is reporting that

:12:33. > :12:36.Ukip is at war after Carswell quits the party. From what John says it

:12:37. > :12:40.sounds like there was civil war before, during and after Carswell.

:12:41. > :12:46.Some might say it goes back to the days of Alan scared, the leader who

:12:47. > :12:49.was fighting his colleagues. -- Alan Sked. It is quite an achievement,

:12:50. > :12:52.really, that the party has operated despite all these rivalries and

:12:53. > :12:56.conflicts. It has an impressive record of local government victories

:12:57. > :13:00.and European Parliament victories. I don't like to pay tribute to Nigel

:13:01. > :13:06.Farage, but you have to say that as a 1-man band, his personality and

:13:07. > :13:09.his television presence was enough to hold the party together

:13:10. > :13:15.sufficiently. Boy, do they miss him now. Absolutely. I will pay tribute

:13:16. > :13:21.to Nigel Farage. I think he has done a great job. Well, as a Brexit

:13:22. > :13:29.supporter you would. Is that the first time you have been competitor

:13:30. > :13:34.Mandy Rice Davies? Darling! Finally, a story that might not be a story at

:13:35. > :13:40.all, Ruth? Exactly. Tell us about it anyway. This is Prince William's air

:13:41. > :13:44.ambulance, or the one that he copilots. It does not say that he

:13:45. > :13:47.was actually in it. Despite the fact they have put a photograph on him on

:13:48. > :13:51.the front. William's helicopter split second from lethal drone

:13:52. > :14:02.crash. He was probably at home changing nappies. That is almost

:14:03. > :14:06.certainly true. Otherwise this would not be called exclusive... If

:14:07. > :14:12.William himself had been a split second from a lethal drone crash, I

:14:13. > :14:17.think the BBC might have already changed its bulletins by now. I

:14:18. > :14:22.suspect there is slightly less to this story than meets the eye. Does

:14:23. > :14:28.that happen a lot? Do journalists sometimes slightly write stories up

:14:29. > :14:31.a bit more? Well, got to have something to put on the front page.

:14:32. > :14:36.To have something to put the headlines. Indeed. That is

:14:37. > :14:41.journalism. It certainly made us stop, look and read. Yes, full

:14:42. > :14:45.marks. But we still haven't read the inside copy. We are desperate to

:14:46. > :14:49.read the inside copy as well. You may have to wait. You might find one

:14:50. > :14:56.in your home tonight, in the cabs, as you head back. Keep your eyes

:14:57. > :15:00.peeled for a late-night vendor. What is on page four? We'll tell you

:15:01. > :15:03.tomorrow when we review the papers in the morning. Why then we will

:15:04. > :15:08.have a hard copies. Thank you to both of you. And forget, all the

:15:09. > :15:12.front pages are online on the BBC News website, where you can get a

:15:13. > :15:16.detailed review of the papers. It is all there for you, seven days a

:15:17. > :15:20.week. And you can watch us there as well, if you really want to again,

:15:21. > :15:24.with each night's edition of the papers posted on the page shortly

:15:25. > :15:28.after we finish. Ruth, John, thank you for your company this evening. I

:15:29. > :15:30.will be back tomorrow afternoon. Coming up next, The Film Review.