02/04/2017

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:00:00. > :00:15.that is all the sport. Now the papers.

:00:16. > :00:19.Slightly intimidating... Hello, and welcome to the look ahead at what

:00:20. > :00:25.the papers will be bringing us today.

:00:26. > :00:29.With me are David Wooding, Political Editor of The Sun

:00:30. > :00:32.on Sunday and Yasmin Alibhai Brown of the i newspaper

:00:33. > :00:36.The Mail on Sunday continues its campaign against videos

:00:37. > :00:39.on Google and YouTube which show violent or terror related content.

:00:40. > :00:41.This morning's front page highlights a video showing how

:00:42. > :00:44.Britain's airports and nuclear power stations need

:00:45. > :00:46.to tighten their defences against terrorist attacks,

:00:47. > :00:49.according to a story on the Sunday Telegraph's front page.

:00:50. > :00:53.British passports could soon be returning

:00:54. > :00:56.to their former dark blue livery following Brexit,

:00:57. > :01:02.the news that some peers are claiming thousands of pounds

:01:03. > :01:04.worth of expenses for attending the House of Lords,

:01:05. > :01:06.despite making little contribution to debates or committees.

:01:07. > :01:08.And the Observer highlights pressures being put

:01:09. > :01:10.on the government by some cross-party MPs who want

:01:11. > :01:13.to guarantee that EU nationals would still be able to work

:01:14. > :01:32.Let's begin with this story, airport and nuclear power stations on terror

:01:33. > :01:38.alert, when were they ever knocked on terror alert? LAUGHTER

:01:39. > :01:44.I think this is a good bit of journalistic thought. Clearly, the

:01:45. > :01:49.Sunday Telegraph have had a look at the story we had a few weeks ago

:01:50. > :01:52.where passengers boarding aircraft from certain countries were banned

:01:53. > :01:57.from taking laptops, they have done a little bit of digging around to

:01:58. > :02:03.find out why, and it seems Islamic State have found a way of making it

:02:04. > :02:08.possible to put a bomb inside a battery compartment of a laptop.

:02:09. > :02:13.Thereby, triggering explosions. They have gone even further to find that

:02:14. > :02:20.using cyber technology they could get inside nuclear power plants and

:02:21. > :02:28.cause greater devastation. There is the start, the knob, probably only

:02:29. > :02:33.scraping at the surface. Massive investigation by security services.

:02:34. > :02:39.-- the nub. This was one of Donald Trump's bright ideas, and of course,

:02:40. > :02:46.I am very wary of the US Department of Homeland Security beginning to

:02:47. > :02:53.feed what seemed essentially like a mad idea, of Donald Trump's, there

:02:54. > :02:56.is a threat, always a threat, the threat is getting worse but the

:02:57. > :03:04.threats we are facing now are those which we saw on Westminster Bridge.

:03:05. > :03:06.It is the idea... Very low-tech, very immediate, you can't prepare

:03:07. > :03:13.for it because you still have to go out and cross bridges... When you

:03:14. > :03:19.look at it, one of the former FBI agent says, we had the shoe bomber,

:03:20. > :03:26.then we had this bomber, exactly so, these were low-tech people connected

:03:27. > :03:35.to organisations or not. It seems to me that this is kind of misguided...

:03:36. > :03:38.We don't know half of it, the security sector will not show their

:03:39. > :03:42.hand... Or they may not tell us the truth. As a frequent flyer, I would

:03:43. > :03:47.feel a lot happier if everyone was not able to carry their laptop and

:03:48. > :03:50.it caused me in convenience but I knew that I was safer. But the truth

:03:51. > :03:56.is, we do not know. Interesting, the case in Egypt, the bomb was in a

:03:57. > :04:02.laptop, the laptop was in the hold, it still brought the plane down.

:04:03. > :04:09.Some will be a bit sceptical saying, you have to ban things

:04:10. > :04:13.completely...? There was an explosion in Mogadishu, Somalia, a

:04:14. > :04:19.year or so ago, which probably triggered all of this investigation.

:04:20. > :04:22.Interesting, some question over... America was doing a version of this,

:04:23. > :04:26.we were doing a slightly different version. Countries adopting it. Some

:04:27. > :04:30.suspicion was that it was about an attempt to damage Middle East

:04:31. > :04:34.airlines, that American companies have complained have been getting

:04:35. > :04:40.undue support from their governments, so there may have been

:04:41. > :04:44.a bit of politics in this. As well as legitimate security concerns. I

:04:45. > :04:48.don't trust any of it, partly... We have to be intelligent and think...

:04:49. > :04:53.There were a couple that you mention, but actually, is this where

:04:54. > :05:00.the threats have come from? This great terrible tragedies? No, it is

:05:01. > :05:06.part of a political agenda, as well, Donald Trump's political agenda, a

:05:07. > :05:08.political agenda of the right, and this is in the Telegraph, which

:05:09. > :05:15.makes me doubly suspicious, sorry! LAUGHTER

:05:16. > :05:18.Perhaps we will check out how it is reported in your newspaper. Staying

:05:19. > :05:29.with the Telegraph, second story, great headline, Gibraltar not the

:05:30. > :05:36.sale says Boris. As soon as the letter was delivered and answered,

:05:37. > :05:45.Gibraltar came up, 93... 94% of whom wanted to remain in the EU. But of

:05:46. > :05:49.course it is owned by Britain. Barzagli, part of the South West of

:05:50. > :05:57.England, according to political sources. Are we going to go around

:05:58. > :06:03.bombing Spain, this is what... Margaret Thatcher's popularity was

:06:04. > :06:06.really down, then the Falklands War. She did have to wait for Argentina

:06:07. > :06:14.to invade it, to be fair to her. Spain are doing this for political

:06:15. > :06:17.purposes. If they want to remain in Europe and feel passionately part of

:06:18. > :06:24.this country, what are they going to do about it? Special dispensation?

:06:25. > :06:31.The interesting thing about this story, Britain was warned that Spain

:06:32. > :06:36.would try to hijack "Brexit", to reclaim the rock, and they

:06:37. > :06:43.apparently warned Theresa May that she should put it in her Article 50

:06:44. > :06:45.letter, a 7-page letter in which she mentioned all sorts of things

:06:46. > :06:52.including security and intelligence but did not mention the rock. Lo and

:06:53. > :06:55.behold, the minute Article 50 is triggered, Spain bowl in and say, we

:06:56. > :06:58.want the rock as part of the negotiations. The EU have been a bit

:06:59. > :07:00.out of order in involving this, it is a bilateral issue involving

:07:01. > :07:07.Britain and Spain, nothing to do with the EU. It is time history was

:07:08. > :07:13.laid to rest, this is not a fashionable thing to say but these

:07:14. > :07:16.were places taken during the great imperial age, we are not in the

:07:17. > :07:19.imperial age, and I think the unthinkable should be thought,

:07:20. > :07:23.actually, what is the point of hanging onto something that actually

:07:24. > :07:28.physically is not part of your boundaries. What I would say to

:07:29. > :07:34.that, try going to Gibraltar, and saying that to the people of

:07:35. > :07:40.Gibraltar, they don't want to be part of Spain. But I want to be part

:07:41. > :07:46.of Europe. Again, another version of the debate over Northern Ireland.

:07:47. > :07:55.Whether you can have secure border, that allows you to say, we no longer

:07:56. > :07:57.have free movement, but how do you enforce that, if you want to allow,

:07:58. > :08:01.for example, free flow of goods. The Gibraltan issue, they have

:08:02. > :08:06.criticised it as smuggling tobacco in at a lower rate of tax. In

:08:07. > :08:13.Northern Ireland, part of the Good Friday agreement, reunification of

:08:14. > :08:18.Ireland. These are interesting, unexpected dramas. Many more will be

:08:19. > :08:27.thrown up as we move into "Brexit" which we have not even thought

:08:28. > :08:30.about. It'll be interesting to see what from week to week is the latest

:08:31. > :08:36.controversy and the latest row and potential compromise. Moving on to

:08:37. > :08:39.the mail on Sunday, very... I would like a flatter tummy in just six

:08:40. > :08:43.weeks, but I haven't got time to read that, let's stick with Google

:08:44. > :08:51.blood money, web giant cashing in on file videos showing how to Pierce

:08:52. > :08:57.stab vest. Terrible death ten days ago, PC Palmer. Suggestion that no

:08:58. > :09:06.damage had been done to the stab vest. -- pierce. What can Google do

:09:07. > :09:13.to stop this? I don't understand, is that my ignorance? The Internet has

:09:14. > :09:23.clearly made our lives better, we can access information, we can have

:09:24. > :09:31.friends on Facebook, but we have fake news as well, we have

:09:32. > :09:37.pornography, and we have hate and terrorism using Whats App and

:09:38. > :09:43.Google. Now, this comes at a time when certain vested interest,

:09:44. > :09:47.celebrities, for one, politician, want to gag the press even more,

:09:48. > :09:51.which is regulated to hell. We have some of the strictest regulations of

:09:52. > :09:58.television and newspapers in the world. And yet, the Internet is a

:09:59. > :10:02.wild West. And here we have, we have an organisation called stop funding

:10:03. > :10:12.hate, Google, putting up... Putting up videos... -- Stop Funding Hate.

:10:13. > :10:15.They have taken it down but it took a long time. I am so stupid

:10:16. > :10:19.sometimes about these things, I agree with Amber Rudd when she

:10:20. > :10:23.made... When she attacked some of these Internet giants. And then I

:10:24. > :10:28.had all this really intelligent young people saying, that was stupid

:10:29. > :10:33.because actually, practically, it cannot be done. I just want to

:10:34. > :10:45.educate myself about what exactly Google can do. I would say, in the

:10:46. > :10:47.same way that a newspaper would not print many stories, and believe

:10:48. > :10:49.me... You know this yourself, so much does not get into the

:10:50. > :10:54.newspapers now... Masses of information. Clearly, there must be

:10:55. > :10:59.some kind of algorithm, I think is the word, where they can... Better

:11:00. > :11:07.than a hashtag. Where they can find this stuff when it comes up. Another

:11:08. > :11:08.interesting aspect to the story, this idea that people are

:11:09. > :11:12.effectively, have turned this kind of thing into a full-time business,

:11:13. > :11:19.because you get some very small financial comeback from the number

:11:20. > :11:24.of people who look at your video or you choose, potentially, this guy

:11:25. > :11:30.has given up his job and is making fake news -- is making this. These

:11:31. > :11:33.how-to videos. Weapons expert. He can make them for next to nothing

:11:34. > :11:39.and put them up on the website and get lots of hits and get money. If

:11:40. > :11:44.you want to stop this kind of thing, you have to find a way to stop the

:11:45. > :11:46.money. There have been cases of major companies have stopped

:11:47. > :11:54.advertising on YouTube, in protest at this. That is the way, money will

:11:55. > :11:59.talk, if we say, we will not advertise, or, Google can become the

:12:00. > :12:04.biggest employer, ever... You know... 100% more employees, young

:12:05. > :12:11.people, give them jobs, to give them exactly what they want. As you say,

:12:12. > :12:15.massive system... That game, you would hit one on the head and

:12:16. > :12:19.another would pop up somewhere else. That is the problem they are

:12:20. > :12:23.struggling with. And politicians struggling with the problem of how

:12:24. > :12:28.you legislate for something that is international in a national context.

:12:29. > :12:35.Sunday Times, lovely picture on the front here, Johanna Konta,

:12:36. > :12:39.celebrating this great win at the Miami open, cannot quite believe it,

:12:40. > :12:44.maybe fans of women's tennis in Britain cannot quite believe it

:12:45. > :12:47.either, it has been a long time since Virginia Wade. Old enough to

:12:48. > :12:54.remember her in 1977. When they were called ladies, now they are able to

:12:55. > :13:01.be women players, treated as equals. In terms of the impact. Has captured

:13:02. > :13:06.the second where she realises she has done it. A story which looks

:13:07. > :13:14.rather more familiar than great British tennis success. Lord Paul,

:13:15. > :13:24.he was involved in this, he was... He was suspended. Old story,

:13:25. > :13:30.according to the Times, some newer naughty peers... Including Lord

:13:31. > :13:35.Evans, a Labour peer, crossbench, a former Tory peer, Lord Hanning

:13:36. > :13:46.feels, who also went to prison. And Francis to Susa, former Speaker, who

:13:47. > :13:51.was herself caught up in an and expenses row. Here is what is my

:13:52. > :13:57.suspicion, the Lords is resisting some of "Brexit" speed, and the

:13:58. > :14:01.simplicity that Brexiteers would like. -- Lord Hanningfield. I think

:14:02. > :14:06.there is something about discrediting the Lords, I think that

:14:07. > :14:17.there is no other reason to have that here. There is 800 of them,

:14:18. > :14:22.what is different in this, it is the Sunday Times relaunch today, which

:14:23. > :14:26.you may see, it has a slight tweak, it has a slightly different look

:14:27. > :14:32.about it, maybe only a trade journalists can spot it, but a

:14:33. > :14:36.slightly different face a stories are shorter and a bit more readable.

:14:37. > :14:40.I quite like it. -- Frances D'Souza. As part of that, they have done an

:14:41. > :14:46.investigation to give themselves a different property. The new line,

:14:47. > :14:51.Richard Pearce, people who are already wealthy in their own right,

:14:52. > :14:55.are... We know this, it has happened before, if they had a front-page

:14:56. > :15:00.story saying, interfering with the will of the people, and their

:15:01. > :15:11.arguments are wrong, that would make sense. This recycling, to have

:15:12. > :15:14.people lose faith in the Lords. Suspicious of the motives. We did

:15:15. > :15:18.something in the sun on Sunday if you weeks ago, these figures,

:15:19. > :15:25.?40,000 in expenses, tax-free, must be worth a bit more. And they do not

:15:26. > :15:32.need it. -- Sun on Sunday. It is all very well to pick out the wealthy

:15:33. > :15:37.peers, but they do this, there is not a salary, this is what they live

:15:38. > :15:44.on, basically. Whether you think that is right or wrong, that is

:15:45. > :15:48.true. And some of the best peers are some of the best scrutinises we now

:15:49. > :15:58.have. And I think it is very important... The richer the people,

:15:59. > :16:05.the more greedy they are, what is new there(!) the Observer. As ever,

:16:06. > :16:10.from now on, not every story but quite a lot stories will be coloured

:16:11. > :16:13.by "Brexit", one way or another, whether it is lobbying to say extra

:16:14. > :16:16.help, because of "Brexit", other people saying, what will we do about

:16:17. > :16:23.getting staff, this is interesting given all the other questions the

:16:24. > :16:27.NHS is under. It is the wallpaper, everything we do it is there,

:16:28. > :16:32."Brexit" is the backdrop of our lives, this is a hell story about

:16:33. > :16:40."Brexit". The suggestion is that there will be an exodus of NHS

:16:41. > :16:43.staff, we do employ a lot of Europeans in hospitals, and people

:16:44. > :16:48.from all over the world, worried about whether they will be able to

:16:49. > :16:53.state post "Brexit" and leaving... Some of the figures show, last year,

:16:54. > :17:03.17,000 EU nationals who left the NHS, compared with only 11,020 14,

:17:04. > :17:11.2348 doctors left between July and September, that is up from 1200,

:17:12. > :17:15.same period, 2015. Yes, 80 something percent rise in the number of people

:17:16. > :17:20.leaving. Here it is, the immigration promise which was made carelessly

:17:21. > :17:27.and manipulative league again and again and again is not going to be

:17:28. > :17:32.possible. And we have now got even people like David Davis, Liam Fox,

:17:33. > :17:36.sorry, saying that immigration will not go down. A lot of people voted

:17:37. > :17:40.because they thought foreigners would leave, and whatever. So it is

:17:41. > :17:48.going to be difficult for them to politically manage this. Yes, in

:17:49. > :17:53.fact, one of the few points Labour did well on raising was the NHS

:17:54. > :17:56.during the referendum campaign, obviously, now, Article 50 has been

:17:57. > :18:01.triggered, one of the priorities will be to get a deal on EU

:18:02. > :18:06.nationals living in Britain, and British nationals living in the 27

:18:07. > :18:13.EU states, that is a priority. There is a cartoon, he has a lady coming

:18:14. > :18:18.back on her own... She has been on holiday in Europe, she says, the

:18:19. > :18:22.Europeans are holding my husband hostage because of the "Brexit" mid

:18:23. > :18:26.Ocean oceans(!) it is going to be interesting to see how many of these

:18:27. > :18:34.industries or areas of business... The care sector, with the ageing

:18:35. > :18:38.population, it will just shuts down. Because... Almost all their workers

:18:39. > :18:46.come from somewhere else. On a brighter note, the front of the

:18:47. > :18:50.express, Tom Jones, how singing save my life after the death of my wife

:18:51. > :18:52.last year. I am about to renew my passport, we will look at the

:18:53. > :18:59.passport, I will probably get another EU passport, until we get

:19:00. > :19:02.through passport, I have no opinion either way, red or blue, I am

:19:03. > :19:09.colour-blind! The true blue passport, the dark blue colour

:19:10. > :19:11.coming back. I don't want it, I want my European passport. I had such

:19:12. > :19:15.problems with my blue passport, always interrogated! Always made to

:19:16. > :19:19.feel like a second-class citizen, only when the red passport came,

:19:20. > :19:25.nobody asked me any questions. At the time you got it, your family was

:19:26. > :19:35.out of Uganda by Idi Amin, 40 years ago... We loved it then, but we had

:19:36. > :19:38.a special stamp, D, and that meant that you could not freely come even

:19:39. > :19:46.though you had a British passport. White Zimbabwe and had C and they

:19:47. > :19:49.would come. Labour passed the law in 1968, a deeply racist law which they

:19:50. > :19:59.passed. So I did not care for my blue passport, made me feel

:20:00. > :20:03.unwanted. Deeply the study, GB stickers on the back of the car,

:20:04. > :20:10.that will come back as well. Look, they do keep redoing the passport

:20:11. > :20:13.every so many years, to stop forgeries, and this is a ?500

:20:14. > :20:18.million contract that has gone out on a government website, and the

:20:19. > :20:22.Sunday express, like some others this morning, as they collected that

:20:23. > :20:27.there may be a return of the blue passport. The Royal Standard will

:20:28. > :20:30.stay on the front, yes, we all want that on the front of it, European

:20:31. > :20:39.Union coming off the top, not a lot to change anything else. Do we have

:20:40. > :20:42.the right to keep the European one? We won't be citizens of the European

:20:43. > :20:46.Union... All the recognised the back passport recognise the sovereignty

:20:47. > :20:48.of the individual nations, there is not such a thing as a European

:20:49. > :20:57.passport, as such. My my view is that you have to get the

:20:58. > :21:02.passport of your own nation. We will find out this week. Bats we can find

:21:03. > :21:06.out more over the course of the coming days, perhaps we will speak

:21:07. > :21:09.to the passport office. I'm sure it is something that will be asked

:21:10. > :21:14.about in the "Brexit" debates. Thank you both very much. Always a

:21:15. > :21:18.pleasure to have you here. Don't forget, tomorrow's front pages

:21:19. > :21:22.tonight, 1040, you're on BBC News. -- 10:40pm. We will be back with

:21:23. > :21:36.more news at the top of the hour. We have a nice day on the way today,

:21:37. > :21:37.better than