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:00:00. > :00:00.life murder conspiracy that absorbed 1920s America, and in particular,

:00:00. > :00:13.the young J Edgar Hoover. Hello, and welcome to our look ahead

:00:14. > :00:16.to what the papers will be With me are Nigel Nelson, political

:00:17. > :00:22.editor of the Sunday Mirror and the Sunday People,

:00:23. > :00:24.and the political Lovely to see you boit. We will look

:00:25. > :00:36.at some of the stories in a moment. Tomorrow's front pages,

:00:37. > :00:39.starting with... The Mail on Sunday leads

:00:40. > :00:42.with the continued rising tensions around North Korea,

:00:43. > :00:45.and the threat to wipe out The Sunday Times, also

:00:46. > :00:48.leading on North Korea, says President Trump is prepared

:00:49. > :00:54.to strike Korean nuclear sites. The Telegraph goes with

:00:55. > :00:56.the potential threat to America It says that North Kreoa

:00:57. > :00:59.posses the capability The differences between

:01:00. > :01:04.the two countries is summed up in The Express,

:01:05. > :01:07.who call it the Deadliest Stand-off. The Observer leads on an education

:01:08. > :01:19.story, and says that free schools So that was just a taster of those

:01:20. > :01:23.front-pages. A more in-depth natter now with my

:01:24. > :01:28.guests and goodness, we have to start off with North Korea, don't

:01:29. > :01:32.we. . We do. What do you make of this? The Sunday Times in particular

:01:33. > :01:38.is the most worrying of The Papers tonight. Because that seems to sort

:01:39. > :01:45.of take war a step nearer. What the Sunday Times is saying is that their

:01:46. > :01:48.quoting general McMaster, Donald Trump's national security adviser

:01:49. > :01:53.who is saying that the America has the capability of taking out with

:01:54. > :01:57.conventional weapons the entire nuclear arsenal of North Korea, this

:01:58. > :02:00.is high stakes stuff, that the first question is what if they haven't got

:02:01. > :02:04.the capability of doing that? What happens next? The second thing is I

:02:05. > :02:08.can't see it happening really on the basis of South Korea, the first

:02:09. > :02:15.thing that would happen is there would be an invasion of South Korea,

:02:16. > :02:19.and you get a feeling it is like two pugnacious schoolboys squaring off

:02:20. > :02:23.in the playground. Both knows if one throws a punch they will get hurt,

:02:24. > :02:26.however you look at it. Certainly we are dealing with unpredictable

:02:27. > :02:31.people and the worry is that someone will do something really stupid. Jo,

:02:32. > :02:37.a lot of people saying that this is just the US trying to nudge China to

:02:38. > :02:42.actually do something. Yes, it is, but the whole relationship between

:02:43. > :02:49.America and China is not helped by where China sits on the question of

:02:50. > :02:54.Syria. I mean China has previously gone along with Russia, on UN votes

:02:55. > :02:58.and things, last week it abstained rather than veto the UN vote, but I

:02:59. > :03:04.mean, certainly what is happening, and you know, you have got huge

:03:05. > :03:09.American warships arriving, or heading towards the Korean

:03:10. > :03:13.peninsula, you have real pressure on a quite untested and inexperienced

:03:14. > :03:18.team of foreign policy people, not least of all Secretary of State Rex

:03:19. > :03:20.Tillerson dealing with as Nigel says unpredictable people, but in

:03:21. > :03:24.difficult area, you know, you have China on the one hand, you have

:03:25. > :03:31.Russia in the background, always. You have got North Korea, and you

:03:32. > :03:36.have got where do these rather unpredictable and men who want to

:03:37. > :03:41.make a show, it is, I have more bombs than you, your bomb is bigger

:03:42. > :03:46.than mine. At one point is one going to go let's show them who's boss? I

:03:47. > :03:51.think it is really very worrying. What is interesting is you have Mike

:03:52. > :03:57.Pence the American Vice-President. He is going to South Korea... Today,

:03:58. > :04:01.later tomorrow for talks. He is going there to have talks with them,

:04:02. > :04:10.and back home, in what seems a bit like the vicar at the Tea Party

:04:11. > :04:15.saying I am sure we can come so some arrangement Geoffrey Clifton Brown

:04:16. > :04:21.is trying to get a sort of all party support together, although I am

:04:22. > :04:24.being solutionly facetious, it is that level of bringing together

:04:25. > :04:28.common-sense and looking at the options, we don't know what North

:04:29. > :04:33.Korea has got. We have seen what they have shown us, but we don't

:04:34. > :04:39.know how real they. You I don't know if you have seen the satellite

:04:40. > :04:42.images. Yes. It is based on the movement of earth. The tests take

:04:43. > :04:47.place under groan, so this is where they are going, this is where they

:04:48. > :04:52.are saying there is something coming... You need, certainly the

:04:53. > :04:56.institute of strategic studies, who know something about these things,

:04:57. > :05:00.some of the analysis they have done is interesting. What they seem to be

:05:01. > :05:03.saying is look, we are not sure about the delivery systems, whether

:05:04. > :05:06.they are capable of doing the a long range launch or anything like that.

:05:07. > :05:10.That. What they are more certain about and it comes back to the

:05:11. > :05:15.original point we started with the Sunday Times, the medium range

:05:16. > :05:21.missiles, they can use, now obviously, that puts all of South

:05:22. > :05:25.Korea and some of Japan, within striking distance, so that is the

:05:26. > :05:32.kind of danger. I mean I was sceptical when I saw the stuff on

:05:33. > :05:36.the parade today. These missiles that can go 7,000 miles and hit the

:05:37. > :05:40.west coast of America. This is what the Sunday Telegraph is talking

:05:41. > :05:44.about. We never saw them. They were in their cases, for all we mow they

:05:45. > :05:49.could have been empty. Obviously, we were meant to think that is what

:05:50. > :05:54.they might do, but I mean, I am more worried about the ones he has tried

:05:55. > :05:59.out and work. Yes. OK. We will see how this goes, we will be interested

:06:00. > :06:04.to hear what Mike Pence does say, of course. Let us go to a football

:06:05. > :06:10.story now, on the front of The Observer, this is our third story,

:06:11. > :06:15.Jo, do you want to pick this up? So this is the story about as you refer

:06:16. > :06:18.to earlier, Everton have banned, Everton football club have banned

:06:19. > :06:25.the Sun, banned some reporters from being at training ground or maps at

:06:26. > :06:31.things because of Kelvin MacKenzie 's, the former editor's column.

:06:32. > :06:37.Which not only cast a slur deeply offensive racist slur on Ross

:06:38. > :06:44.Barkley their midfielder, but it was also that sort of casual sort of

:06:45. > :06:49.pugnacious, unpleasantness about people in Liverpool, that frankly,

:06:50. > :06:55.you know, I would have hoped had died out an awfully long tiling a.

:06:56. > :06:57.The Sun has a traditionally, it has got a historically appalling

:06:58. > :07:02.relationship with Liverpool. What do you think of the timing? It is

:07:03. > :07:08.ridiculous. With Hillsborough anniversary it is crazy. Has Kelvin

:07:09. > :07:14.MacKenzie got a free rain to do what he wanted to do. Why was there no

:07:15. > :07:19.editor? Someone saying this is is a bit near the knuckle? Let us put

:07:20. > :07:24.aside this allegation, of a racial slur, so there was an alleged racial

:07:25. > :07:29.slur, let us put that to one side and look at the columnist's job. The

:07:30. > :07:36.columnist's job, particularly a tabloid cluckist's job is to provoke

:07:37. > :07:42.people, to get people talking, -- columnist. As a tabloid columnist, I

:07:43. > :07:47.don't see it as provoking necessarily, certainly to get people

:07:48. > :07:53.talking, to try and give a different way of looking at something. Kelvin

:07:54. > :07:58.is the master of the insult, and what happened here was that was as

:07:59. > :08:03.gratuitously insulting as it was possible to be. That is old

:08:04. > :08:08.fashioned journalism. I am amazed the Sun re-employed him, however,

:08:09. > :08:11.they did. The bit I am unsurprise Iingly, I don't like the idea of

:08:12. > :08:17.newspapers suspending their columnist if they don't like

:08:18. > :08:20.something they write. I don't like football clubs banning journalists

:08:21. > :08:24.from covering matches, or going to training session, it seems we have a

:08:25. > :08:32.new kind of reaction to things we don't like, we say well ban that,

:08:33. > :08:36.shut that person up. Sepsis the casualness, -- sepsis the casualness

:08:37. > :08:44.people say it is just a bit of harmness bander. It is not harmn't.

:08:45. > :08:47.Unless people say this is harmless. You know, obviously, it is now that

:08:48. > :08:51.matter for the police to decide whether or not there is a

:08:52. > :08:54.prosecution. Put that to one side. It's a is slur on the people of

:08:55. > :09:00.Liverpool about what he said about people... It is amazing, that Kelvin

:09:01. > :09:03.MacKenzie of all people, would have put anything in his column about

:09:04. > :09:08.Liverpool but a he knows the reaction there. The relationship

:09:09. > :09:13.isn't the best. We must point out at this point, that Kelvin MacKenzie

:09:14. > :09:18.denies that there was any intention of a racial shrub. So we will make

:09:19. > :09:22.sure that is, that is stated because there is a police investigation.

:09:23. > :09:28.Yes, absolutely. All right. Well, let us move, we will stay with The

:09:29. > :09:34.Observer, actually. The EU Crown Jewels, we could lose them. Did you

:09:35. > :09:39.know we had them for a start? So, these are the European banking and

:09:40. > :09:44.medicine agencies, otherwise known as the European banking authority,

:09:45. > :09:48.and the European Medicines Agency. They employ between bun,000 people

:09:49. > :09:52.and they provide a hub for businesses in the UK and are based

:09:53. > :09:58.in London. But according The Observer report, the EU is set to

:09:59. > :10:00.inflict a double hue my Asian on the Prime Minister -- humiliation,

:10:01. > :10:04.stripping Britain of its European agencies within weeks and basically

:10:05. > :10:10.holding a beauty contest to see which city gets them, whether it is

:10:11. > :10:14.Amsterdam, Frankfurt Milan or Paris. They are regarded as among the Crown

:10:15. > :10:20.jewels, I am sorry, I find that a bit hard to... Maybe going a bit

:10:21. > :10:24.far. According to The Observer, it is worth 1,000 jobs in this country.

:10:25. > :10:29.We don't want to lose these thing, but then again, what do we expect?

:10:30. > :10:33.If we are leaving the EU, these things, they are regulatory body,

:10:34. > :10:38.they can't stay here, they will have to go to an EU country, so whether

:10:39. > :10:42.they go now, or in two years' time, seems to me a bit irrelevant, and I

:10:43. > :10:46.could, we are going to get a lot of this, the EU will make sure we are

:10:47. > :10:51.punished for what we are doing, and this is the start of the punishment.

:10:52. > :10:59.They are going to hurt us. Yes, we will get a good spanking for this.

:11:00. > :11:04.OK, The Independent and I notice the story earlier today, actually, this

:11:05. > :11:09.new poll giving Tories an historic lead over Labour on the front-page

:11:10. > :11:14.of The Independent. Still bad new, not doing very well in these polls.

:11:15. > :11:19.Labour is not doing very well at all. The poll is one that said even

:11:20. > :11:26.something like 45% of Labour voters don't think he is a very good

:11:27. > :11:29.leader, but this is the first time since a government, first time since

:11:30. > :11:33.1983 when a government in power has been so far ahead of the opposition,

:11:34. > :11:38.that was Margaret Thatcher, just before her second victory at the

:11:39. > :11:41.ballot box, so this is a poll conducted by come Perez for the

:11:42. > :11:48.independent, gives the Tories are 46% of the vote share so that the 21

:11:49. > :11:52.points ahead of Labour. 11% for the Liberal Democrats and 9% for Ukip. I

:11:53. > :11:57.mean it is damning for Labour, but I feel like we say that every week.

:11:58. > :12:01.Afraid so. I am sure if you are a Labour MP you probably feel that is

:12:02. > :12:07.what people say. It does say, it does say that some of Mr Corbyn's

:12:08. > :12:12.policies, including free school meals and forcing private schools to

:12:13. > :12:16.pay VAT enjoy public support but you could argue that the weather

:12:17. > :12:21.forecast for the Bank Holiday Monday would enjoy support and we have more

:12:22. > :12:27.chance of getting that. We have a real poll with the local elections

:12:28. > :12:33.coming up, let us see how he does there is this How do you think he

:12:34. > :12:37.can fix it. I am not sure that it is actually fixable. That the Labour

:12:38. > :12:41.Party, there are two Labour Parties in Parliament, there is the Jeremy

:12:42. > :12:48.Corbyn wing, and the provisional wing which is the other Labour MPs,

:12:49. > :12:53.I am not sure that is fixable, if, they are beginning to up with policy

:12:54. > :12:58.for the first time. We have seen a raft of them. Let us so if the

:12:59. > :13:04.public like it. The only way things can improve if he improves in actual

:13:05. > :13:14.proper votes, we get... Does he want to fission it? I get the impression

:13:15. > :13:17.that he is so arrogant, despite this image of humility and authenticity,

:13:18. > :13:23.whatever that means that you wonder whether he does want to fix it. Like

:13:24. > :13:27.any opposition minister I think he wans to be Prime Minister. Do you?

:13:28. > :13:32.That is the impression one gets from him, now, the question is will he

:13:33. > :13:37.make it to 2020 when the elections comes up There won't be a leadership

:13:38. > :13:42.challenge this year, there is no question after the debacle last year

:13:43. > :13:46.they can do it. They are working on a possibility for 2018. . He might

:13:47. > :13:50.not make the chance of getting to a general election. ? You wonder

:13:51. > :13:59.whether there is going to be pressure on Theresa May to call an

:14:00. > :14:04.election. You think he should. I do. It St what did for Gordon Brown, he

:14:05. > :14:08.didn't have the man Tait, that he was crowned rather than Oman date.

:14:09. > :14:15.He succeeded to power rather than won it. If she went to the country

:14:16. > :14:18.with this sort of lead, she would most likely increase her majority,

:14:19. > :14:26.which then at least she can say, I now have a mandate, and that gives

:14:27. > :14:31.her a mandate. It means she can in a way silence or at least neutralise

:14:32. > :14:36.some of the critics in our own party on such a slim majority, I it would

:14:37. > :14:41.help the country because it would force Labour to do something. She

:14:42. > :14:45.said she won't do it, which is the first thing and the second is I am

:14:46. > :14:49.sure she is conscious that political parties get punished by voters if it

:14:50. > :14:53.likes like they are doing it for their own narrow interests. It

:14:54. > :14:56.wouldn't be, she would argue it was for the public interest and it would

:14:57. > :15:01.be... If she changes her mind that is how she would argue it. Quickly,

:15:02. > :15:09.let us finish off with an amazing discovery. I think this is my

:15:10. > :15:15.favourite story. It is fab isn't it. Back to the Sunday Telegraph. This

:15:16. > :15:20.is some workmen working at Lambeth Palace and they discovered the tombs

:15:21. > :15:25.of five former Archbishops going back to the early 17th century. They

:15:26. > :15:29.found it because they put down a mobile phone, and they discovered

:15:30. > :15:35.that there was a hidden stairway, and beneath that was a brick lined

:15:36. > :15:38.vault and in the brick lined vault were all these led coffins. It is

:15:39. > :15:42.amazing, the really good thing I think is so fantastic is the details

:15:43. > :15:46.have been kept secret up until now, to make it all safe, to make the

:15:47. > :15:51.vault safe, because the museum is going to have a grand opening next

:15:52. > :15:56.month. A great line from the site manager, he says we see lots of

:15:57. > :16:00.bones but we knew this was different the moment we spotted an

:16:01. > :16:03.Archbishop's crown. On that note, we are finishing off on the Sunday

:16:04. > :16:11.Telegraph there, I hope you will join us in half an hour, for our

:16:12. > :16:22.fine the Paper, coming up next, it is Meet the Author. Stay tuned