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:00:13. > :00:16.Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be

:00:17. > :00:20.With me are John Crowley, who's Editor-in-Chief

:00:21. > :00:23.at the International Business Times and Tim Stanley, the leader

:00:24. > :00:28.writer and columnist for the Daily Telegraph.

:00:29. > :00:34.The Telegraph has an exclusive interview with Prince Harry,

:00:35. > :00:37.talking about how he sought counselling in his mid-twenties

:00:38. > :00:44.to help cope with the death of his mother, Princess Diana.

:00:45. > :00:51.The Guardian says there are calls for a recount following the vote in

:00:52. > :00:52.Turkey giving President Erdogan the powerful major constitutional

:00:53. > :00:53.reform. The Times lead with what they call

:00:54. > :00:56.North Korean defiance in the face The i also lead with

:00:57. > :01:00.the tension in North Korea - saying that China and America

:01:01. > :01:10.are working together The Mira continues with North Korea,

:01:11. > :01:14.President Trump's message that he is poised to strike if necessary. The

:01:15. > :01:20.Daily Mail leads with a deterioration in UK and Russian

:01:21. > :01:21.relations, saying they are an all-time low.

:01:22. > :01:24.The FT lead on US Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross rubbishing

:01:25. > :01:26.International Monetary Fund claims of US protectionism.

:01:27. > :01:32.A distinctly international feel to the stories we are covering in this

:01:33. > :01:35.first review. But the first story is very much home-grown. The Daily

:01:36. > :01:41.Telegraph, an exclusive with Prince Harry. It was 20 years of not

:01:42. > :01:46.thinking about it, and then two years of total chaos coming he says,

:01:47. > :01:51.about how he coped with his mother's death when he was so young. This is

:01:52. > :01:56.an extraordinary exclusive to have got? It is historic, really. Our

:01:57. > :02:01.columnist, Brian Gordon, has spoken in an unfiltered way with the press

:02:02. > :02:05.about the experience of his mother's death, coping with the grief. You

:02:06. > :02:10.can listen to it on the website, it is a podcast. He is so astonishingly

:02:11. > :02:15.frank. He talks about bottling up, how it wasn't until he was 28 that

:02:16. > :02:18.he came to terms with what had happened. And he talks about the

:02:19. > :02:22.anger. The language is extraordinary. He says, I had

:02:23. > :02:27.probably been close to a complete breakdown on numerous occasions,

:02:28. > :02:30.with all sorts of grief, lies, misconceptions and everything coming

:02:31. > :02:34.from every angle. He talks about almost wanted to punch people. It is

:02:35. > :02:38.historic, partly because this is a story we are all familiar with and

:02:39. > :02:43.gives us a perspective on the story that we have never had before. Also,

:02:44. > :02:47.I cannot think of a member of the Royal family talking in this

:02:48. > :02:51.unfiltered way before to the press. We might have expected an interview

:02:52. > :02:56.that was then edited, which the palace would have to go through with

:02:57. > :03:01.a fine tooth comb to green light. For him to talk in this way, without

:03:02. > :03:05.any kind of filter, it feels like an historic change in the way the Royal

:03:06. > :03:09.family speaks to the nation. Absolutely, it wasn't so many years

:03:10. > :03:13.ago that the Royal family were seen as really quite distant. They kept

:03:14. > :03:18.their distance, quite deliberately. A lot of that changed when Princess

:03:19. > :03:21.Diana died? It was. I'm trying to think of another interview that a

:03:22. > :03:25.member of the Royal family has done in this raw and expansive way. I

:03:26. > :03:32.can't but help think of his parents, when Diana spoke to Martin Bashir

:03:33. > :03:35.and his father, the Prince of Wales, spoke to Jonathan Dimbleby, speaking

:03:36. > :03:44.about the affair. But the language is so raw. Saying he wanted to punch

:03:45. > :03:49.someone, this is not princely language, but it is breaking down

:03:50. > :03:53.barriers about mental health. She has written really expansively about

:03:54. > :03:57.her own personal mental health issues. This is bringing mental

:03:58. > :04:02.health to the centre of the National conversation, I think. So many

:04:03. > :04:06.people will applaud him for doing it? Absolutely, he wants to draw

:04:07. > :04:10.attention to the charity he is running with Prince William, Heads

:04:11. > :04:15.Together. It reads like somebody talking about a physical wound, but

:04:16. > :04:18.they are talking about a mental wound. That is the change that is

:04:19. > :04:21.happening in society, getting us to the point where this kind of

:04:22. > :04:23.conversation can be had. It was the case for a very long time that

:04:24. > :04:27.mental health problems were something that was buried. It was

:04:28. > :04:31.felt you had to deal with it, get on with it. What he is saying with this

:04:32. > :04:44.honest and frank interview, in a way, it is the same as a physical

:04:45. > :04:47.problem. By talking about it, you address it, you deal with it and can

:04:48. > :04:49.move towards healing. It is a change not just in the Royal family, but

:04:50. > :04:52.this extraordinary interview reflects a change in the way society

:04:53. > :04:54.sees mental health. For many people, the change is not complete. There is

:04:55. > :04:57.a discussion to be had about funding of mental health services and also

:04:58. > :04:59.the stigma many people still feel, even when you have very visible

:05:00. > :05:11.public figures speaking about their own experiences? As you said, the

:05:12. > :05:16.subject is taboo. Everywhere, all places, there are people that have

:05:17. > :05:19.been affected by it. Years ago it would be swept under the carpet.

:05:20. > :05:24.This contribution he has made will bring that to the fore even more.

:05:25. > :05:31.Even more so because it is a man speaking about it? Absolutely, and a

:05:32. > :05:34.soldier as well. One wonders, I have not heard the podcast, I wonder if

:05:35. > :05:38.the experience of serving with men and seeing what happened to veterans

:05:39. > :05:42.is something he has spoken out about before, I wonder if that is one

:05:43. > :05:48.reason why he has chosen to do this. He briefly touches on it, speaking

:05:49. > :05:51.to fellow soldiers about their experiences made him rethink his own

:05:52. > :05:59.experience as well. He said it was two decades that he lost. It kind of

:06:00. > :06:03.puts into context all other things, being known as the playboy prince,

:06:04. > :06:09.two hijinks. Was this his way of trying to get away and not think

:06:10. > :06:13.about that? He lost his mother. Anybody losing a parent at such a

:06:14. > :06:18.young age, it is such a traumatic thing. To live it in the

:06:19. > :06:23.spotlight... And have to carry on? Carry on and keep that public face.

:06:24. > :06:26.It is such a brave thing for him to do. Massive moment and huge

:06:27. > :06:30.exclusive for the Daily Telegraph. It really is. Several very big

:06:31. > :06:36.stories that we have been concentrating on a lot today. The

:06:37. > :06:41.first one of which is on The Times. North Korea defiant as the US ramps

:06:42. > :06:44.up pressure, Trump wooing China to counter nuclear threats. We are told

:06:45. > :06:50.from the US point of view that they have some common ground with China?

:06:51. > :06:54.No actual idea yet from anybody how they are going to respond. But the

:06:55. > :06:57.fact they seem to be on the same page is progress? It is a sign of

:06:58. > :07:03.the topsy-turvy world we live in where China and Russia are urging

:07:04. > :07:09.calm. One of the most interesting things that I saw today, when you

:07:10. > :07:15.look for information about Donald Trump, it is in his tweets. He did

:07:16. > :07:21.several U-turns. One of them was accusing China of being a currency

:07:22. > :07:23.manipulator. He said, let's move on from the currency manipulation

:07:24. > :07:30.malarkey, we need to work together on North Korea. Of course, China has

:07:31. > :07:34.a huge role to play. It is supporting North Korea in terms of

:07:35. > :07:38.providing food, energy and resources. If the US decided to act

:07:39. > :07:44.unilaterally, China would absolutely have something to say about it. It

:07:45. > :07:47.is crucial for Trump that China is getting involved. We are led to

:07:48. > :07:51.believe if this had not been a failed missile test but a nuclear

:07:52. > :07:55.test, that would have been beyond the pale for China, even though the

:07:56. > :08:00.consequences could be enormous if a destabilised North Korea were to

:08:01. > :08:06.spill over its borders? North Korea, after all these years, it still

:08:07. > :08:09.can't get it up. It probably is a nuclear state by now. Crucially, it

:08:10. > :08:13.doesn't have the ability to deliver nuclear weapons yet. I'm going to be

:08:14. > :08:18.controversial and say that this latest crisis actually does have a

:08:19. > :08:23.silver lining. It is the sign of closer cooperation between

:08:24. > :08:25.Washington and Beijing. Some American officials have claimed

:08:26. > :08:31.there was an agreement to share intelligence that came out of the

:08:32. > :08:36.meeting between the Chinese President and Donald Trump. A

:08:37. > :08:38.general agreement to cut back on imports and trade, isolate North

:08:39. > :08:43.Korea. If you look at the language the Chinese have used in the past

:08:44. > :08:46.few days, they said there should not be a conflict, they advised against

:08:47. > :08:51.it, but they have not invoked their 1961 alliance with North Korea. They

:08:52. > :08:55.have not said we will come to North Korea's defence. Crucially, it could

:08:56. > :08:59.be interpreted that if North Korea develops nuclear weapons and takes

:09:00. > :09:02.an aggressive position, it could be in breach of the nuclear

:09:03. > :09:08.Non-Proliferation Treaty. Under the terms of the 1961 treaty that binds

:09:09. > :09:12.China and North Korea together, China would no longer be obliged to

:09:13. > :09:16.protect it. It is possible North Korea, by coming a lot closer, a

:09:17. > :09:20.step closer to being able to deliver a nuclear payload, it might be

:09:21. > :09:27.cutting itself off from China. There could be a new concordat, between

:09:28. > :09:30.China and America about North Korea. I do think the nuclear cloud has a

:09:31. > :09:35.silver lining. Have you been practising that all day? That is

:09:36. > :09:39.very good. It is actually a quote from Doctor Who, fans will hear that

:09:40. > :09:48.and know what it is from! How do you follow that? Kim Jong-un, some

:09:49. > :09:53.commentators say, once recognition as a nuclear state, as a nuclear

:09:54. > :09:57.power. He is not likely to get that. He needs to be given a way out from

:09:58. > :10:02.this? Yes, you press somebody up against a wall, you have to give

:10:03. > :10:09.him... Or if he feels that he needs a get out. The vagaries of Donald

:10:10. > :10:16.Trump and his policy moves, it is difficult to see how he would want

:10:17. > :10:21.to give North Korea that. I don't think he is somebody a get out, he

:10:22. > :10:25.is an alpha male, he wants to dominate and put people in their

:10:26. > :10:33.place. To save face, the real politic is having to do, he has done

:10:34. > :10:36.this about-face, accusing China of currency minute elation. Maybe he

:10:37. > :10:42.has to realise that were diplomacy matters you need to give countries a

:10:43. > :10:45.chance to save face. Let's look at the Financial Times and what is

:10:46. > :10:52.happening in Turkey. I've gone to the wrong paper, have I? No, it is

:10:53. > :10:55.the picture. Narrow boat, he claims victory in the Turkish ballot over

:10:56. > :11:00.new powers. He was expecting to win by a much bigger margin? It was

:11:01. > :11:04.predicted it would be 55%, it was closer to 51%. The opposition has

:11:05. > :11:07.already said it is demanding a recount of some of the votes,

:11:08. > :11:10.because some of the ballots that were issued were not officially

:11:11. > :11:15.stamped. There are already grounds to contest this. What is it he

:11:16. > :11:18.wants? You want is to replace Turkey's parliamentary democracy

:11:19. > :11:29.with an executive presidency, that could give him the power to dissolve

:11:30. > :11:34.Parliament, appoint judges, he could move the country more towards

:11:35. > :11:38.Islamification than it has been in the past. This has been a real

:11:39. > :11:41.turning point, not only in Turkey's history, but also relations between

:11:42. > :11:45.Turkey and the rest of the world. Turkey is part of the Western

:11:46. > :11:50.alliance, the Weston family. It is a bridge between Europe and Asia. For

:11:51. > :11:53.it to take a step towards religious conservatism, eight more autocratic

:11:54. > :11:59.style of government, that puts it at odds with its western partners. It

:12:00. > :12:02.is a member of the Council of Europe, the Secretary General has

:12:03. > :12:06.already said if you need help in navigating this, a reminder that

:12:07. > :12:14.part of your responsible it is our upholding the rule of law, we are

:12:15. > :12:20.here to guide you through it? The EU was in a difficult spot, it is

:12:21. > :12:25.paying money to tick each year to solve that problem. It will be

:12:26. > :12:30.interesting to see how the EU reacts officially. It is quite interesting,

:12:31. > :12:33.a referendum about the country on the edge of Europe split down the

:12:34. > :12:47.middle, it rings a bell with me somewhere. It is a rubber-stamp for

:12:48. > :12:53.him being a single party strongman now and he can rule until 2029. It

:12:54. > :12:59.is a turning point. It could be. Turkey has long wanted to join the

:13:00. > :13:02.EU. But something he has said this evening that he wants to do is to

:13:03. > :13:06.eventually introduce the death penalty. Europe has been clear and

:13:07. > :13:14.said if Turkey does that, it does not get into the EU. It looks like

:13:15. > :13:20.Turkey is choosing to face eastwards. He has got the result

:13:21. > :13:24.that some commentators are saying in the worst possible way. It is too

:13:25. > :13:28.small a margin to say he has a clear mandate to introduce the powers?

:13:29. > :13:36.Asked him was saying, he was expected to get 55% and did not. It

:13:37. > :13:41.was like the 52-48 that we had, it is not a ringing endorsement. It

:13:42. > :13:46.creates more uncertainty. He was looking for a rubber-stamp. He

:13:47. > :13:50.didn't get it. Now you have the opposition saying 60% of the vote is

:13:51. > :13:57.being contested. It creates more uncertainty. That region is and

:13:58. > :14:04.uncertain region. They are a buffer state between Syria and Europe. He

:14:05. > :14:12.has used the cover of the coup last year to call this. I think he has

:14:13. > :14:15.put something like 50,000 people, jailed or removed from their jobs in

:14:16. > :14:20.the judiciary, journalists... He says that is to bring about

:14:21. > :14:23.stability and security? He has to deal with Syria, the Kurdish

:14:24. > :14:30.problem, Islamists from his own country. This is going to solidify

:14:31. > :14:38.divisions and show us the size of dissent. Three of the biggest cities

:14:39. > :14:46.in Turkey voted against it. The i, is it time to strip President

:14:47. > :14:51.Assad's wife of UK citizenship? She was born in London and holds a

:14:52. > :14:56.British passport. There is a move in Parliament to do exactly that.

:14:57. > :15:02.Conservative MPs and Liberal Democrat MPs are calling for her to

:15:03. > :15:10.have her citizenship revoked. The right to do that, I think it is

:15:11. > :15:16.under the British Nationality Act, it lies with the Home Secretary.

:15:17. > :15:19.Does being the wife of a dictator give you the license to say you are

:15:20. > :15:25.not entitled to British citizenship any more? One important point, she

:15:26. > :15:32.has been disseminating pro-Syrian, pro-Assad messages on social media

:15:33. > :15:35.accounts. We are not at war with Syria. I'm uncomfortable about

:15:36. > :15:38.stripping citizenship. It is usually invoked to protect the country

:15:39. > :15:41.against someone you don't want coming in. I think everyone has

:15:42. > :15:43.human rights, civil rights, she remains a citizen until she shows

:15:44. > :15:45.good cause for having it taken away. Don't forget all the front pages

:15:46. > :15:48.are online on the BBC News website where you can read a detailed review

:15:49. > :15:50.of the papers. It's all there for you - seven days

:15:51. > :15:54.a week at bbc.co.uk/papers - and you can see us there too -

:15:55. > :15:56.with each night's edition of The Papers being posted

:15:57. > :16:03.on the page shortly after we've Don't go yet, John and Tim will be

:16:04. > :16:04.back at 11:30pm for another look at the front pages.

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