17/04/2017

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:00:17. > :00:19.Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be

:00:20. > :00:22.With me - Kate Devlin, Political Correspondent

:00:23. > :00:32.at The Herald, and the broadcaster David Davies.

:00:33. > :00:37.Education correspondent, political correspondence. So a lot to talk

:00:38. > :00:40.about. They have had a sneak preview, let's give you an idea on

:00:41. > :00:41.what is in the front pages tomorrow morning.

:00:42. > :00:43.'North Korea threatens Trump with nuclear war'

:00:44. > :00:45.is the i's headline, after the country promised

:00:46. > :00:51.The Times claims Europe is braced for a new migrant crisis,

:00:52. > :00:53.after Turkey's President Erdogan indicated he may issue

:00:54. > :00:56.Brussels with an ultimatum on visa-free travel.

:00:57. > :00:58.The Guardian leads with a report from Afghanistan on the impact

:00:59. > :01:04.of last week's bomb attack by US forces.

:01:05. > :01:07.According to the Daily Telegraph, schoolchildren will be given better

:01:08. > :01:12.The paper featured an exclusive interview with Prince Harry today

:01:13. > :01:21.Meanwhile, the Daily Mail says the Duke of Cambridge will call

:01:22. > :01:24.for an end to the UK's stiff upper lip culture, and encourage people

:01:25. > :01:32.The Metro has fresh allegations about Facebook and the social media

:01:33. > :01:39.Top story for the Express is 'Crackdown on foreign crooks',

:01:40. > :01:42.with new rules to be announced by the Justice Secretary,

:01:43. > :01:45.The Mirror has the latest speculation on the disappearance

:01:46. > :01:50.Almost ten years since she vanished in Portugal.

:01:51. > :02:01.Who wants to kick off with this? What has he got to be so cheerful

:02:02. > :02:08.about, David? Well, I suppose we will have to get used to apocalyptic

:02:09. > :02:18.headlines like this. North Korea threatens Trump with nuclear war.

:02:19. > :02:22.This is what, in the past, I would have said, it is an exaggeration. It

:02:23. > :02:28.is not now because it appears to me that we are in uncharted waters in a

:02:29. > :02:32.very big way, and I have seen some of the interviews you have been

:02:33. > :02:36.doing on the News Channel during the day. The most difficult thing seems

:02:37. > :02:41.to me to be that there is no confidence at all that what is a

:02:42. > :02:47.logical discussion that we might regard as logical, the Americans

:02:48. > :02:52.might regard as a logical discussion between civil servants in Washington

:02:53. > :02:58.and in Pyongyang is regarded in that way at all by those in North Korea.

:02:59. > :03:01.So they are not talking the same language at all. Civil servants

:03:02. > :03:06.don't understand each other in the same way and that is before you get

:03:07. > :03:11.to the political leaders. Kate, I don't know if North Korea was on the

:03:12. > :03:17.list of countries who might have a free-trade deal with us after

:03:18. > :03:20.Brexit, I don't know if Boris Johnson David Davis fancy going! I

:03:21. > :03:26.am sure we have something we could sell! We were talking not that long

:03:27. > :03:31.ago, Britain's first Ambassador, in 2002, the first time we have had an

:03:32. > :03:36.Ambassador there, and he says he had no sense that people in Pyongyang in

:03:37. > :03:41.government circles had any idea of the UK thinking in the Foreign

:03:42. > :03:45.Office, and in what used to be called the chancelleries of Europe.

:03:46. > :03:52.It is quite terrifying and frankly, Britain's role is pretty marginal.

:03:53. > :04:00.It is, and you are right. Most days, he looks like a smiling madmen.

:04:01. > :04:07.Especially today. He is chortling. The contrast what you are saying

:04:08. > :04:10.about this ministry we also have to look at Donald Trump and most of his

:04:11. > :04:13.civil servants are still grappling with what he really thinks which

:04:14. > :04:21.seems to be changing on a daily basis. There is so much tough talk

:04:22. > :04:27.from both sides. It is apocalyptic language. I wonder if we are getting

:04:28. > :04:32.hints... People are pulling back from it? It does seem the US is now

:04:33. > :04:39.emphasising diplomatic routes and sanctions. This negotiation idea,

:04:40. > :04:46.both of them, is it just tough talk is? I absolutely want you to be

:04:47. > :04:53.right! The problem is, how much room for manoeuvre is that? We have had

:04:54. > :04:58.sanctions for years. Years and years and years. And the truth is, they

:04:59. > :05:05.have not worked. I would love to know what former President Obama

:05:06. > :05:09.thinks about where we are today. And indeed, interesting to know what

:05:10. > :05:14.Hillary Clinton thinks about it. Whether it would have been any

:05:15. > :05:20.different to President Trump. Yes, had those things happened. We are

:05:21. > :05:24.still just about at this stage of, well, if you do that, we will do the

:05:25. > :05:33.other things. All the rest of it, that cannot go on forever. Shall we

:05:34. > :05:36.move on the front the Express? What about Prince Harry in a moment and a

:05:37. > :05:39.lovely picture of his brother and sister-in-law talking about praising

:05:40. > :05:48.Prince Harry for coming out about his mental anguish. But this story

:05:49. > :05:51.about a crackdown on foreign oil site like the stories we get at this

:05:52. > :05:58.time of year when papers get given stuff before the bank holiday and

:05:59. > :06:03.they think it will be a quiet run. The stay back at work. Tell us about

:06:04. > :06:07.the story and how much do you think it stands? It is important to

:06:08. > :06:13.remember this particular Minister needs a win at the moment, Liz Truss

:06:14. > :06:17.has had a lot of difficulties in recent weeks, heavily criticised by

:06:18. > :06:22.the judiciary, overruled in some of that initiatives she has tried to

:06:23. > :06:28.bring in. So this is an interesting story and it does depend on what the

:06:29. > :06:34.detail will be. As always! Who are these foreign crooks we are cracking

:06:35. > :06:38.down on? The problem might be there not that many of them. There are

:06:39. > :06:44.quite a lot of foreign crooks and people who have been turned down for

:06:45. > :06:48.asylum. So it is that old thing of getting people out of the country

:06:49. > :06:52.again? Yes, and putting the two together. Even the Minister of

:06:53. > :06:57.Justice is suggesting this would be 2,000 cases a year and it would save

:06:58. > :07:00.around 2.7 million. Which in the grand scheme of things is fairly

:07:01. > :07:05.small. There is another figure in the middle of the story, the backlog

:07:06. > :07:13.of cases of asylum seekers deemed subject to removal action,", stood

:07:14. > :07:17.at nearly 27,000 last year, not including the thousands and Royal in

:07:18. > :07:22.legal appeals against the rejection of their applications to stay. I

:07:23. > :07:29.hate to be a sin at, but I have an instinct that this is more work. I

:07:30. > :07:32.hate to be a cynic. More work than my loan and friends! Surely not,

:07:33. > :07:38.there are quotes from Liz Truss saying it is vital and they should

:07:39. > :07:43.be removed as quickly as possible. I feel I have heard this before, and

:07:44. > :07:47.remember Charles Clarke and there was all that stuff about foreign

:07:48. > :07:50.prisoners who should be kicked out after serving their sentences here

:07:51. > :07:55.and they banished, and John Reid before he said the Home Office was

:07:56. > :08:00.broken. It is now the Ministry of Justice. These stories seem to come

:08:01. > :08:05.round on a regular basis. Yes, and it seems quite difficult to achieve,

:08:06. > :08:09.so it seems as if they have narrowed the field of what they are doing.

:08:10. > :08:12.Talking about Case reviews for each individual case and you can see why

:08:13. > :08:20.they are only talking about 2,000 cases a year. In some ways, job

:08:21. > :08:24.done. Front page of the Express, and the Telegraph. Good headlines for a

:08:25. > :08:29.Minister in difficulty going back to work on Tuesday. We mention Harry,

:08:30. > :08:33.the on the front of the Daily Telegraph and you cannot blame them

:08:34. > :08:40.for milking this story. It is a cracker of a story. From their own

:08:41. > :08:44.paper today, at watershed moment for the mental health debate, that is

:08:45. > :08:53.top of tomorrow's Daily Telegraph and about time too. Let's hope

:08:54. > :08:58.Prince Harry's revelation that he took counselling to come to terms

:08:59. > :09:02.with his mother's death has the same effect that that same mother had

:09:03. > :09:08.when she got involved in the HIV aid debate. Which was extraordinary. A

:09:09. > :09:11.catalyst for so much in terms of changing attitudes. A lot of

:09:12. > :09:17.hostility towards people with HIV and she became a reassuring figure

:09:18. > :09:21.and a lot of people were very nervous about how we should deal

:09:22. > :09:30.with it and react. Absolutely, but I could not help on the way in here

:09:31. > :09:35.the studio, we saw the ten o'clock news stop and there we have, my

:09:36. > :09:42.goodness, a change for children taking maths and that is, I think,

:09:43. > :09:51.is that right? And the grading systems. Where is this coming from?

:09:52. > :09:57.Politicians again. Some of us have lived through education revolution

:09:58. > :10:04.of the education revolution. Going back 30 years or more! And you get

:10:05. > :10:09.to a point, are our politicians in this country incapable of finding a

:10:10. > :10:14.consensus, a consensus for a set number of years, from whichever

:10:15. > :10:20.political party they come from. And letting the teachers get on with the

:10:21. > :10:27.job. This is the teachers conference. I am sure you have spent

:10:28. > :10:31.many happy weekends! Some of us have the wounds from the past. We were

:10:32. > :10:36.talking about this then and we are no further. Kate, finally, do you

:10:37. > :10:40.think something like this differently in schools in Scotland

:10:41. > :10:47.in terms of issues like support for pupils in crisis and counselling,

:10:48. > :10:52.compared to what has happened and in England? I think across the UK, all

:10:53. > :10:58.schools are still struggling to understand the scale and extent of

:10:59. > :11:05.the problem. And then to try and deal with a societywide stigma. But

:11:06. > :11:08.it talks about depression and anxiety on the increase of 70% in

:11:09. > :11:14.the last 25 years. Among young people. I don't think we have yet

:11:15. > :11:20.grappled with how big a problem it is. Hopefully, we will talk about

:11:21. > :11:26.this more at half past 11. That is a flavour of what is coming up.

:11:27. > :11:31.You'll both be back at 11:30 for another look at the front pages.

:11:32. > :11:34.And if you miss the programme any evening, you can watch it

:11:35. > :12:09.The skies are starting to clear that we're in for a chilly night, a touch

:12:10. > :12:10.of frost around in many areas, and a sharp frost across the far