19/04/2017

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:00:00. > :00:17.Hello there and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be

:00:18. > :00:21.With me are Alison Little, deputy political editor at

:00:22. > :00:23.The Daily Express, and Lucy Fisher, senior political

:00:24. > :00:36.Good to see you both. Happy there's an election? I'm exhilarated, I'm

:00:37. > :00:40.very happy! I can see you are. Let's look at some of the front pages. The

:00:41. > :00:44.Metro says, bring it on, after MPs Metro says, bring it on, after MPs

:00:45. > :00:50.voted for the snap general election on June the 8th. According to the

:00:51. > :00:56.Daily Mail, the Conservative manifesto will guarantee the end of

:00:57. > :00:58.free movement. The Daily Telegraph reports a warning from Theresa May

:00:59. > :01:04.that the SNP is plotting what she has called a coalition of chaos. The

:01:05. > :01:08.Times claims the Prime Minister is being forced into a concession over

:01:09. > :01:12.migrant targets as part of the price for calling the snap election.

:01:13. > :01:16.Philanthropist Bill Gates has warned that lives will be at risk if the

:01:17. > :01:23.Conservatives cut overseas aid, that is the top story on the front of the

:01:24. > :01:32.Guardian. Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn features on the front page of

:01:33. > :01:35.the Financial Times. The mirror headline is foul play, as the paper

:01:36. > :01:45.calls Theresa May chicken for refusing to take part in TV debates.

:01:46. > :01:51.We're going to start with the Metro. "Bring It on". There was no debate,

:01:52. > :01:53.note surprise this was going to happen, the Labour Party decided to

:01:54. > :02:00.back it, what a transformation 24 hours makes. Yes. Even last week we

:02:01. > :02:03.were writing cheerily about the onset of nuclear war and then all

:02:04. > :02:07.that has gone and suddenly here we are! I can tell you there are MPs

:02:08. > :02:13.frantically deciding what they want to do. Those who said they would go

:02:14. > :02:16.on until 2020 and stop, they have a hard and quick decision to make

:02:17. > :02:23.because of her. But she was ready for it, they are off, and off they

:02:24. > :02:27.go onto the campaign trail. Lucy, how prepared are the parties really

:02:28. > :02:32.for this, considering it's literally out of the blue? There is a whole

:02:33. > :02:36.organisation that has got to be sorted out to deal with this kind of

:02:37. > :02:41.thing. That's absolutely right, but when you look at CCH queue, they

:02:42. > :02:47.have already co-opted in Sir Lynton Crosby, the strategist credited with

:02:48. > :02:51.masterminding David Cameron's success in 2015. There might have

:02:52. > :02:55.been some planning effort because GCHQ has been rushing in recent

:02:56. > :02:59.weeks and months to update its candidates list under the radar. So

:03:00. > :03:02.to my mind, the Conservatives look in a little bit better shape than

:03:03. > :03:06.Labour and the Lib Dems, who have been a bit more court on the hoof.

:03:07. > :03:11.Certainly with Labour, they had a long meeting with their governing

:03:12. > :03:15.body to date and decide the rules. I think all parties now just need to

:03:16. > :03:22.get bodies in every seat ready to get going. It's just seven weeks.

:03:23. > :03:29.The Financial Times front page is Mr Corbyn, he is in Croydon, a marginal

:03:30. > :03:33.constituency. The caption at the top, "Call to arms, Corbyn targets

:03:34. > :03:40.the rich as MPs vote to set election clock ticking, he clearly feels of

:03:41. > :03:43.course that he can win. He is supported, surrounded by the party

:03:44. > :03:50.faithful, there. And he is on the stump. I think my point and we might

:03:51. > :03:53.row about this, is that I see that picture of Corbyn and I saw him on

:03:54. > :03:58.the television earlier and he walks into this rally amid cheers, someone

:03:59. > :04:03.said "I love you, I love you". This is where he's happiest, which is

:04:04. > :04:07.fine, because Theresa May also pictured in the Telegraph surrounded

:04:08. > :04:09.by her supporters. But critics of Jeremy Corbyn will say, this is the

:04:10. > :04:14.early thing he can do coming he loves these rallies, that is where

:04:15. > :04:17.he is happiest. We saw him at Prime Minister's Question Time today and I

:04:18. > :04:20.don't know how you thought he performed, but he was quite

:04:21. > :04:24.stumbling, there was no support from his MPs, he is miserable that. But

:04:25. > :04:28.when he is in this rally situation can he loves it. If you're going to

:04:29. > :04:32.be leader of the party and Prime Minister, you need to be able to do

:04:33. > :04:40.the other stuff as well, I think. He reminds me of a certain chap in

:04:41. > :04:46.1992. Mr major? That's right. He had a little soapbox. And it worked.

:04:47. > :04:51.Donald Trump. Donald Trump just stood there in front of the party

:04:52. > :04:57.faithful, didn't go anywhere else. He won too. It could work for Mr

:04:58. > :05:02.Corbyn. No? CHUCKLES

:05:03. > :05:06.I don't know, I think there is something in that. I'm sure the

:05:07. > :05:12.people in labour HQ are looking at John Major's soapbox talk, I think

:05:13. > :05:23.it is a backlash against the slickness... The trouble is there

:05:24. > :05:26.comes a point when in Dearing Dottie nature becomes an image of

:05:27. > :05:32.incompetence. Tuesday night we were waiting for him and all his MPs to

:05:33. > :05:35.attend a meeting of the PLP, very important, do talk about the

:05:36. > :05:43.election, and he was an hour late because he was stuck on a train

:05:44. > :05:47.coming back from a constituency. You might say it shows he's a man of the

:05:48. > :05:53.people... Know, being late is tardy, whether you are left, right,

:05:54. > :05:56.whatever. On the front page of the Telegraph we have Theresa May in a

:05:57. > :06:01.similar sort of setting. She has gone to her constituency and she is

:06:02. > :06:04.surrounded by the party faithful. The criticism of her could be that

:06:05. > :06:11.this is her comfort zone and that she, for instance, doesn't want to

:06:12. > :06:15.be on a TV debate. No, I think it's certainly something the rest of us

:06:16. > :06:17.want to see, not least in Westminster media circles, her

:06:18. > :06:23.pitched against Jeremy Corbyn and possibly other leaders, Tim Farron.

:06:24. > :06:30.They are always quite good fun and I think quite revealing. Sorry Dinda

:06:31. > :06:36.up but it is a similar criticism to Jeremy Corbyn, that she is not that

:06:37. > :06:41.nimble on her feet. In a sense, why would she want to hand over power,

:06:42. > :06:45.the certainty of that volatile situation when she doesn't need to.

:06:46. > :06:50.It will be interesting to see what happens. Because there was such a

:06:51. > :06:56.long lead up to 2015, there was a real chance for everyone to heap

:06:57. > :06:58.pressure on David Cameron. She might try and skip through without doing

:06:59. > :07:02.it. But I think where she has got is also interesting. Where Jeremy

:07:03. > :07:07.Corbyn was in London, the heartlands of his support, she went to Bolton.

:07:08. > :07:12.Those northern pro Brexit Labour held seats with a sizeable Ukip vote

:07:13. > :07:18.are now in the Tories's sites. The Times had a new poll out the night

:07:19. > :07:23.with you guv data showing that there is a 24 point lead for the Tories

:07:24. > :07:26.now over Labour. That is an increased majority over Labour,

:07:27. > :07:33.coming from the Ukip vote slipping. I think we will hear about that more

:07:34. > :07:36.in the coming days. Those seats in the north-west and the north-east,

:07:37. > :07:40.Labour would have thought they could count on but because a lot of them

:07:41. > :07:45.voted Brexit and labour doesn't seem to have a coherent policy on

:07:46. > :07:48.Brexit... Quite right, they don't. That makes it difficult for them

:07:49. > :07:51.when they are campaigning there. I think it does and they lot of them

:07:52. > :07:56.still feel neglected by an Labour and they are still struggling. I

:07:57. > :07:59.think there are quite a few Ukip now saying we're going to vote

:08:00. > :08:07.Conservative because that is how we secure Brexit. And I don't think of

:08:08. > :08:10.the London voice, I don't know how much it appeals. They've is really

:08:11. > :08:17.going to have to get its election machine in gear. Let's go to the

:08:18. > :08:20.front page of the Independent. Reveal, Corbyn's plan to hang on

:08:21. > :08:27.even if Labour suffers a humiliating defeat. This is a man who has

:08:28. > :08:30.survived one leadership election, another leadership election, a

:08:31. > :08:37.massive vote of no-confidence in own party. The suggestion here seems to

:08:38. > :08:40.be that even if there is a wipe-out and the Conservatives get a three

:08:41. > :08:47.figure majority, he will still hang on. That is absolutely where my

:08:48. > :08:51.money is and has always been. He will not stand down. As you say,

:08:52. > :08:58.Clive, he showed himself to be completely impervious to pressure

:08:59. > :09:02.until now. I'm not convinced that he is on the edge and unbecoming the

:09:03. > :09:06.psychological pressure that some people seem to think. This is a

:09:07. > :09:09.battle the left have been waging an waiting for their chance for

:09:10. > :09:13.decades, they're not going to give it up without a mechanism being in

:09:14. > :09:18.place to hand over to a left-wing candidate. I think there are so many

:09:19. > :09:21.risks involved in them trying to get through the so-called McDonald

:09:22. > :09:27.amendment bringing down the threshold of Labour MPs needed to

:09:28. > :09:32.get on the ballot paper, I think... He's going to want to hang on.

:09:33. > :09:35.Having said that, it is the biggest party in Europe, the membership is

:09:36. > :09:44.at record levels because of Jeremy Corbyn, why should he go? Even if he

:09:45. > :09:50.does go and they do lose? Those adoring supporters do exist. We have

:09:51. > :09:56.seen them. And they firmly believe in him and his project. Yes, and he

:09:57. > :10:00.did want to give his members more say in deselecting some of the

:10:01. > :10:04.sitting MPs, which scared the living daylights out of some of the

:10:05. > :10:09.moderates, but they might have decided that wasn't enough time to

:10:10. > :10:12.do that. And he does claim, yes, that it is a movement of the people

:10:13. > :10:16.and they can defy the polls with their message. He is trying to make

:10:17. > :10:20.it about the economy, living standards, something different. A

:10:21. > :10:25.lot of people believing his policies. I don't think he can

:10:26. > :10:30.possibly win, after last year. But after last year we would be foolish

:10:31. > :10:37.to make firm predictions! Theresa May's cast-iron Brexit pledge. It

:10:38. > :10:43.will guarantee the end of free movement and no more meddling by

:10:44. > :10:47.European judges. And that is a cast-iron guarantee, which I think

:10:48. > :10:50.will make conservatives feel a bit queasy, because the last time David

:10:51. > :10:54.Cameron said cast-iron, it all went morally wrong. Can we trust anything

:10:55. > :11:00.Theresa May says now, after saying she was not going to have a snap

:11:01. > :11:02.election? I think she will be held to account. She had to U-turn pretty

:11:03. > :11:08.quickly on the national insurance debacle and the budget. But I think

:11:09. > :11:12.this is interesting. Home Secretary Amber Rudd hinted that with Theresa

:11:13. > :11:15.May seeking a larger mandate, that could be a way in which she is

:11:16. > :11:20.seeking to land a softer kind of Brexit. So I think this is Theresa

:11:21. > :11:26.May making clear to the Daily Mail, and the right wing of her party,

:11:27. > :11:28.that no, she's going to stick to those pledges, the end of freedom of

:11:29. > :11:34.movement, the end of the jurisdiction of the European court

:11:35. > :11:38.of justice, and I think that is something that is expected. What

:11:39. > :11:43.people will also be looking for, the final Cameron legacy she dumps,

:11:44. > :11:50.going forward into the next election, could be that she cares up

:11:51. > :11:54.the pledge of no .7% aid and the lock on pensions is set to go, so

:11:55. > :11:57.there could be a lot of focus on that. The front page of The Times,

:11:58. > :12:02.Theresa May forced to weaken key target on migrants. The Times are

:12:03. > :12:09.saying this is part of the price of calling a quick election. You have a

:12:10. > :12:14.lot to tie up before Parliament rises for the election campaign.

:12:15. > :12:19.They are saying she's going to have to give in, not necessarily

:12:20. > :12:22.completely, but to keep students out of the net migration figures, which,

:12:23. > :12:28.famously of course, and she hasn't dropped this pledge yet, we think

:12:29. > :12:34.she might do. That was a Cameron pledge, to get net migration under

:12:35. > :12:38.100,000 a year. If you include students, 134,000 international

:12:39. > :12:42.students arrived in 2016, those numbers, you can make that target

:12:43. > :12:47.even more impossible to get. They are saying that she wants to get a

:12:48. > :12:51.bill through the House of Lords to enable universities to raise their

:12:52. > :12:56.fees even higher, and the cost of that could be that she makes a

:12:57. > :13:01.concession. But also I know, I think the Foreign Office and various

:13:02. > :13:05.ministers, I went to India with Theresa May on her trip last year

:13:06. > :13:10.and there is a lot of concern here and in countries like India that

:13:11. > :13:14.Britain is being unfriendly towards their students and making it

:13:15. > :13:20.difficult for them to arrive. They would say that they bring benefits

:13:21. > :13:22.and prunes to this country. So it might help with International

:13:23. > :13:27.relations as well if they would soften their stance a little. OK, so

:13:28. > :13:31.the horse trading has already begun before the election even starts. Any

:13:32. > :13:36.suggestion that Theresa May is going to weaken on key migrant targets is

:13:37. > :13:40.not going to be what a lot of people in the country want to hear. It's an

:13:41. > :13:42.interesting one, I think particularly the student numbers,

:13:43. > :13:48.because I think people think they only come here temporarily and the

:13:49. > :13:52.evidence shows that very few overstayed their visas. People say,

:13:53. > :13:57.why should they be counted alongside people that come and settle here

:13:58. > :14:00.long-term and put a long-term burden, the argument goes, an

:14:01. > :14:04.essential public services, health and education. So I think this is a

:14:05. > :14:08.slightly more niche issue to the whole immigration question but

:14:09. > :14:13.certainly immigration numbers and whether she's forced to put a

:14:14. > :14:17.concrete cap in her manifesto as a pledge going into the election... I

:14:18. > :14:30.think Ukip is going to campaign very hard on immigration. OK, finally, it

:14:31. > :14:33.is your story in the express, "I'm stepping down from the Commons for

:14:34. > :14:38.now", not you, George Osborne! There is a picture of him. He's going to

:14:39. > :14:42.be the editor of the Evening Standard and he is not going to seek

:14:43. > :14:51.re-election. Yes, but he is leaving the House of Commons "For now". He

:14:52. > :14:53.always fancied himself to be a great newsmaker and wants to show himself

:14:54. > :14:57.to be intriguing and mysterious. But we just hate it because he's going

:14:58. > :15:02.to earn loads more money from journalism for much less work than

:15:03. > :15:07.we ever will! I think he must have concluded he could not fight... If

:15:08. > :15:09.he fought for re-election as an MP, there would have been so many

:15:10. > :15:16.questions over his commitment to the job because he was not only going to

:15:17. > :15:20.be the editor of a daily newspaper but he has various other roles as

:15:21. > :15:25.well. 70 grand as an MP, X number of gold bullion bars as editor of a

:15:26. > :15:31.newspaper! Difficult decision! By having all said -- having said that,

:15:32. > :15:34.he missed his first deadline today. He did, first rule of journalism,

:15:35. > :15:40.make your deadlines. He didn't make the print edition. Dear oh dear, Mr

:15:41. > :15:42.Osborne, you had better do better! Great having you with us. Many

:15:43. > :15:45.thanks for that. Don't forget you can see the front

:15:46. > :15:54.pages of the papers online And you can see a recording of this

:15:55. > :15:57.broadcast any time you like, on iPlayer. Relive the memories!

:15:58. > :16:13.Another quiet evening out there and for the remainder of the week, the

:16:14. > :16:19.weather is going to remain settled. If anything, just a touch warmer,

:16:20. > :16:20.particularly across some southern and eastern areas of the UK, but