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:00:00. > :00:00.Sunday. And adrift for 32 hours in the Irish Sea - the rescued surfer

:00:00. > :00:18.Matthew Price tells the BBC he had prepared for death.

:00:19. > :00:21.Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be

:00:22. > :00:25.With me are the former trade minister, Lord Digby Jones,

:00:26. > :00:27.and the broadcaster and campaigner, Henry Bonsu.

:00:28. > :00:37.They are both going to respect each other's opinion and not talk over

:00:38. > :00:39.each other at all! LAUGHTER The Telegraph leads with the Duke

:00:40. > :00:42.of Edinburgh who is retiring who is retiring from public

:00:43. > :00:45.duties this autumn. The Daily Mail pays tribute

:00:46. > :00:47.to the Prince with a salute The Sun has totted up a total

:00:48. > :00:52.of over 22,000 personal engagements The same story is on the front off

:00:53. > :01:01.the i - the paper estimates that the Duke has

:01:02. > :01:03.made 5,000 speeches. The Times claims that the Queen's

:01:04. > :01:06.consort decided to retire to avoid The Mirror says the BBC claims that

:01:07. > :01:14.Sir Cliff Richard has spent an unreasonable amount on legal fees

:01:15. > :01:17.after taking action over coverage The Guardian's main story

:01:18. > :01:21.is a warning from Donald Tusk for Theresa May to show respect

:01:22. > :01:28.during Brexit talks. And the FT's top story headlines

:01:29. > :01:38.a six month slump in oil prices. There is a glut of front pages

:01:39. > :01:41.dedicated to Prince Philip's service over nearly 70 years and his

:01:42. > :01:45.decision announced after an emergency meeting at the palace,

:01:46. > :01:50.which got everyone excited this morning, to step down in the autumn

:01:51. > :01:55.from public service from his public duties, well, most of them anyway.

:01:56. > :02:04.The Sun says he has had his Phil! Almost 70 years is... I am going to

:02:05. > :02:09.ask Henry first. I will be evenhanded. Thank you very much. It

:02:10. > :02:13.is a lovely picture for a guy who is supposed to be the man of his time,

:02:14. > :02:22.the stiff upper lip. He smiles very warmly and the Sun has captured

:02:23. > :02:28.that, 22,000, we think of him alongside the Queen, but he does a

:02:29. > :02:35.lot on his own, 5000 speeches, and they haven't kept out of the

:02:36. > :02:41.countless gaffs that he cannot win. Fantastic coverage, and people will

:02:42. > :02:46.be pleased to keep this. I think the reason it was so exciting and it was

:02:47. > :02:50.like an emergency, it is like last week, or was it the week before,

:02:51. > :02:54.when we were told Theresa May would make an announcement. They are

:02:55. > :03:01.trying hard to stop leaks, aren't they? The only way to do it is you

:03:02. > :03:07.don't know anything about it, the next, bang, emergency meeting. In

:03:08. > :03:11.this review of the papers, if you look at the way they have treated

:03:12. > :03:17.very interesting, because in the very interesting, because in the

:03:18. > :03:23.Sun, they played it, and a few years ago, maybe, at its garrulous best, a

:03:24. > :03:30.lovely one in the Mail, Her Majesty. Which we can look at now, Sandra, if

:03:31. > :03:35.you would? I was going to say, contrasting them, if you look at the

:03:36. > :03:42.Times, they have him in beautiful, naval uniform. We are not using the

:03:43. > :03:46.Times, Digby. And if you look at that, that is how the nation would

:03:47. > :03:51.see him in his public service duty, then look at the Guardian, that has

:03:52. > :03:57.an old man... He is rewriting the rules! I am not your glamorous

:03:58. > :04:01.assistant, I am the host! They have an old man frightened in a car and I

:04:02. > :04:04.thought better of the Guardian than that on a day when you could

:04:05. > :04:10.celebrate something, they have played it happily. Except that one.

:04:11. > :04:14.Except for the Guardian. If we can, we will go back to the pages four

:04:15. > :04:22.and five on the Daily Mail. Thank you, yes. And what does it say?

:04:23. > :04:28.Well, they call them the superb royal writers, self praise is no

:04:29. > :04:32.recommendation. Isn't it? They are very good at writing and they have

:04:33. > :04:37.done for several years. They call it the greatest double act of them all.

:04:38. > :04:42.And a double at writing about a double act, referring to Her Majesty

:04:43. > :04:47.and her husband. Interesting point in this article in detail about his

:04:48. > :04:50.marvellous 70 years public service. But it says we will probably see

:04:51. > :04:55.less of Her Majesty in public because he is going into private

:04:56. > :05:00.life. She will probably support him more in private and therefore not be

:05:01. > :05:04.available so much to us. We have been moving towards that, haven't

:05:05. > :05:09.we, with Kate, William and Harry taking on the duties, and Princess

:05:10. > :05:12.and is taking on more. And Prince Philip hasn't just been thinking

:05:13. > :05:17.there since the start of the year, he gave an interview on his 90th

:05:18. > :05:21.birthday in 2011, I think, when he talked about slowing down a little

:05:22. > :05:25.bit. But of course he got straight back into the fray and it has taken

:05:26. > :05:28.six years to get to this position. Very interesting insight in this

:05:29. > :05:33.piece in the Mail where he talks about how the Queen is still a shy

:05:34. > :05:37.person even though she has been on the throne for a long time and often

:05:38. > :05:41.she will wait before she goes into a room and greets everybody to gather

:05:42. > :05:44.herself and it is Prince Philip who is the warmup man and he thinks he

:05:45. > :05:49.can make anyone laugh in 15 seconds. He does that, he will put people at

:05:50. > :05:53.ease, and that is the double act. The yen and Yang. People we spoke to

:05:54. > :06:00.have said that about him, he likes it when people challenge him -- ying

:06:01. > :06:06.and yang. I have sat next to him at various things and he likes a good

:06:07. > :06:10.quality argument, not a row, a good-quality discussion. And yet at

:06:11. > :06:14.the same time I can remember Pat, my wife, sitting next to him, she had

:06:15. > :06:18.never done that before, she was apprehensive and he put her at her

:06:19. > :06:22.ease. She will always think well of him for that. He can have a row with

:06:23. > :06:28.me and then be... He probably made a joke about you, Digby. Dave, who is

:06:29. > :06:32.producing tonight, suggested we get them into do the papers. That would

:06:33. > :06:40.be marvellous. We will get George Osborne as well. The editor of the

:06:41. > :06:44.Standard. LAUGHTER the Daily Telegraph, Matt

:06:45. > :06:48.has had a little look at this one, and here we've got the cartoon, and

:06:49. > :06:52.it is the curtains that have been pulled back across the rail to

:06:53. > :07:06.reveal the clerk, and it says unveil your own damp plaque.

:07:07. > :07:10.It is a matter of public record, of course. Princess and, if she has

:07:11. > :07:15.taken on more, I don't know where she will get the time, she is one of

:07:16. > :07:19.the busiest. All of this is a matter of record but for the Sun to whip it

:07:20. > :07:23.up quickly, yes. Someone has had the calculator out. You often think of

:07:24. > :07:27.him reading out a speech someone has written but he have to think

:07:28. > :07:33.something to to people every day. And even when he feels, you know, I

:07:34. > :07:39.have so much time for the Royal family in this respect, they have

:07:40. > :07:42.off days, they all do, and they still have to shake hands with

:07:43. > :07:46.strangers and make them feel wonderful and they have to turn up

:07:47. > :07:51.to the 42nd millionth... They recognise they are in a unique

:07:52. > :07:54.position. Ambassadorial duties for the nation. And I say God bless him

:07:55. > :08:06.and he deserves his retirement. Let's look at the Guardian - show

:08:07. > :08:09.respect in Brexit talks, Tusk tells May, in response to the leaking of

:08:10. > :08:14.the conversation she had with Jean-Claude Juncker. I wonder

:08:15. > :08:19.whether there is a message to the other side as well to show respect

:08:20. > :08:24.and do not leak stuff. Well, exactly. In negotiations, if you are

:08:25. > :08:28.losing, get as many leaks out as you can and brief against them. I think

:08:29. > :08:32.Jean-Claude Juncker was showing signs of that with the leak of this.

:08:33. > :08:38.Interesting the way the Guardian - because the Guardian and the

:08:39. > :08:43.Financial Times are both propaganda for the Remain. The other lot are

:08:44. > :08:50.the same for Brexit. I am merely stating a fact. Well, a propaganda

:08:51. > :08:55.sheet is not just a fact, is it? If you look at the headline of the

:08:56. > :08:59.Guardian, show respect in Brexit talks, Tusk tells May, even the

:09:00. > :09:06.Guardian carry in the third paragraph, appealing for a

:09:07. > :09:12.ceasefire, he, May, chided Junker for leaking to Downing Street. So,

:09:13. > :09:18.even they have said, hey, cessation of hostilities on both sides,

:09:19. > :09:20.please, not just one. Yes, if you look "the Guardian has, these

:09:21. > :09:27.negotiations are difficult enough as they are. If we argue before they

:09:28. > :09:30.begin, it will be impossible. He is being the oil on troubled waters

:09:31. > :09:35.because both positions are hard at and who knows where they are going

:09:36. > :09:39.to go. It will be hard to roll back if it continues. Isn't it posturing

:09:40. > :09:42.on both sides, and when they get in, of course, all of that horse, the

:09:43. > :09:47.amount of money which we will come onto in a minute, that we might have

:09:48. > :09:52.to pay to leave... We won't be privy to the talks. We won't get a

:09:53. > :09:56.communique. So much of it will be behind closed doors. The other thing

:09:57. > :10:00.in the Guardian report where I think the way they show it is good, I

:10:01. > :10:04.think that Tusk is playing a blind, actually, and I think his conduct

:10:05. > :10:08.from the day he got the Article 50 notice all the way through has been

:10:09. > :10:12.statesmanlike. He has been very moderate. He has risen above it.

:10:13. > :10:19.What did he say, we miss you already? He had a tear in his eye. I

:10:20. > :10:25.think, you know, for a relatively new member of the EU, he is from

:10:26. > :10:29.Poland, I think he is, he is an example on how things should be

:10:30. > :10:33.done. And then, how helpful is it for a Prime Minister involved in

:10:34. > :10:37.these talks, to say, I am going to be difficult about it? She has a

:10:38. > :10:41.domestic political agenda, a general election to fight, she has to appear

:10:42. > :10:45.to be strong. I will take the talking stick from you and give it

:10:46. > :10:50.to Henry just for a minute. Part of the reason why the EU is playing

:10:51. > :10:54.hardball is because Britain has been quite aggressive, you know. Since

:10:55. > :10:57.Theresa May became Prime Minister she has made it clear that she is

:10:58. > :11:05.prepared to walk away, she has played a very, very kind of close

:11:06. > :11:09.game with extreme right-wing Brexiteers, to the extent UKIP will

:11:10. > :11:14.be in seats defended by Brexit Tory candidates, so you don't expect the

:11:15. > :11:17.EU Commission and the EU to take it lying down because it is a

:11:18. > :11:21.negotiation and they will defend their positions and hopefully meet

:11:22. > :11:25.in the middle. And there is an election to be fought in the midst

:11:26. > :11:32.of it, and Brexit will be a big issue. What I think will be lost if

:11:33. > :11:36.Barnier, the EU negotiator, if he isn't careful, there are two aspects

:11:37. > :11:40.that Europe wants, one is, call it for what it is, punishment. We can't

:11:41. > :11:43.have people threatening to leave, we have to be nasty to the Brits to

:11:44. > :11:47.teach everyone a lesson. Secondly, they cannot cut off their nose to

:11:48. > :11:52.spite their face and they have to look after the countries of Europe.

:11:53. > :11:57.Can I move onto page seven of The Express, this is associated, EU to

:11:58. > :12:05.face crisis with ?85 billion from the UK that they need to balance the

:12:06. > :12:09.books, but David Davis says these numbers are fantastical. This figure

:12:10. > :12:13.which we talked about in the previous hour came from the FTA

:12:14. > :12:19.couple of mornings ago, not from the EU, the FT has a model which will

:12:20. > :12:23.scale things up from the quoted 60 billion euros, up to 100 billion

:12:24. > :12:27.euros, ?85 billion. And Barnier hasn't quoted the figure. The Daily

:12:28. > :12:32.Express conflated these things together. The direct quote from

:12:33. > :12:37.Barnier is, "We have to be rigourous in the approach to clearing the

:12:38. > :12:40.accounts." That is sorting out the effort bill. "Otherwise The

:12:41. > :12:45.situation might be explosive if we stop programmes, imagine the

:12:46. > :12:47.problems." Not talking about riots in the street. Talking about

:12:48. > :12:55.difficulties, diplomatic difficulties. He also said, in

:12:56. > :12:59.quotes, in the article, "Member states don't have a right to those

:13:00. > :13:05.assets, be they drinkable or non- drinkable." The big wine cellar. And

:13:06. > :13:10.you see, there is an argument that says we have about ?58 billion as a

:13:11. > :13:14.share of the EU's assets that we have helped to buy, so if I was

:13:15. > :13:19.negotiating I would say, I don't agree with the ?85 billion but I

:13:20. > :13:23.would like ?58 billion please, and we talk the differences. That is a

:13:24. > :13:27.fantasy figure as well. Of course it is. They haven't attributed that

:13:28. > :13:31.figure to any organisation. The figure of ?100 billion came from the

:13:32. > :13:35.FT report. They need to stop handbags at dawn and behave like

:13:36. > :13:38.statement that they are meant to be. After the election. After the

:13:39. > :13:44.general election and the French election. And the Italian is coming

:13:45. > :13:50.up as well. The FT, a couple of stories, the Thames Water fined over

:13:51. > :13:54.river sewage dwarfed by ?1 billion pay-outs to owners of a ten year

:13:55. > :14:01.period, Thames Water, privately held, dumped the equivalent of 21

:14:02. > :14:05.supertankers of untreated sewage into the River Thames, and ?1

:14:06. > :14:09.billion was paid out. How can that be justified? Well, it can't, and I

:14:10. > :14:15.wrote a book about this. What I tried to say, talking about fixing

:14:16. > :14:18.business reputations, and I feel passionately about the role of

:14:19. > :14:22.business in society and how, without the wealth creative part of it, you

:14:23. > :14:27.don't get a public-sector, you don't get tax, and I named companies that

:14:28. > :14:30.have done nothing to help the reputation of business. Loads of

:14:31. > :14:36.them. Frankly, this lot have just joined the list. It breaks my heart.

:14:37. > :14:41.Because a good hard-working businesswoman sitting in Newcastle

:14:42. > :14:46.on time, risking her house, creating ten jobs, rarely seeing the family,

:14:47. > :14:49.working hard, she has as much to do with that story and then they get

:14:50. > :14:54.lumped together as businesses. I am not sure it goes together. It really

:14:55. > :14:58.worries me. And I condemn this and I am grateful to the FT for putting it

:14:59. > :15:03.on the front page. Can people tell the difference between the worst of

:15:04. > :15:08.big business and a small to medium-size business?

:15:09. > :15:19.That's why we have different terms. I have been a businessman. I have

:15:20. > :15:28.taken risks, I have lost a lot of money, that is why I so bitter

:15:29. > :15:38.LAUGHTER We are not saying that Thames Water is not paying taxes. We

:15:39. > :15:44.have a guy... Accountability is something we are looking for and we

:15:45. > :15:49.do not find it in this story when you consider how much damage they

:15:50. > :15:53.have done, huge amount of untreated sewage, the amount they have paid in

:15:54. > :15:58.dividends in ten years and how little the fine has been, it does

:15:59. > :16:05.not sound like a balanced approach. You could not make this up. They pay

:16:06. > :16:09.themselves more money than the fine but then the dividend goes to

:16:10. > :16:15.shareholders in Luxembourg and the Cayman Islands. It has got

:16:16. > :16:22.everything. It breaks my heart because so many businesspeople every

:16:23. > :16:26.day, watching this programme, will tell you this is absolutely

:16:27. > :16:34.disgraceful. Donald Trump wins vote to replace Obamacare. They have

:16:35. > :16:41.finally crossed the first hurdle. 20 Republicans voted against it but

:16:42. > :16:46.over rolled the figures went their way. All the Democrats voted against

:16:47. > :16:50.it. What they had to do to get it across the line, no protection to

:16:51. > :16:54.existing pre-existing conditions. The states will be able to opt out

:16:55. > :17:01.of the rules prohibiting insurance from charging people extra premiums.

:17:02. > :17:07.It is going to mean that at least 24 million people will not have

:17:08. > :17:12.healthcare who currently do have it. It has all been changed so much but

:17:13. > :17:18.it seems there will be millions of people without healthcare but

:17:19. > :17:23.premiums will come down, it will be more affordable... For the rich

:17:24. > :17:34.people. And more companies to offer the policies. I find it... It is the

:17:35. > :17:42.nature of America. Very generous country in terms of foreign policy.

:17:43. > :17:48.There is a huge abortion issue. And yet here is a country that you can

:17:49. > :17:54.buy a gun down at the drug stop but it has 30 million people with no

:17:55. > :18:01.access to health insurance. The contradiction... Isn't the argument

:18:02. > :18:10.for some people is that government has no business meddling? Pricing

:18:11. > :18:17.should be but facility, that is for government. The government is led to

:18:18. > :18:23.set the framework. When government retreats, it is the wild West.

:18:24. > :18:29.People unprotected in the richest country in the world. Structure is

:18:30. > :18:40.for government. Some collectors stories. A beautiful rainbow, the

:18:41. > :18:49.picture story. You can see it. A diesel car sales slump. Suggestions

:18:50. > :18:55.there might be a scrappage scheme. Ever likely that people are thinking

:18:56. > :19:01.twice about which car they will buy. If I was looking to buy a new car

:19:02. > :19:08.would not be buying a diesel. People are being punished. People are

:19:09. > :19:14.encouraged to buy these cars at ten, 15 years ago. It was a government

:19:15. > :19:23.policy. Theresa May has acknowledged that. The CBI. It was all about

:19:24. > :19:30.turning the diesel. Interesting point, a personal issue, if you have

:19:31. > :19:38.your car almost invariably is these days, what my mum would have called

:19:39. > :19:43.the never never, on a contract brand which is the residual value of the

:19:44. > :19:49.car so what you are left owing is what the second-hand price is. On

:19:50. > :19:54.that basis, if you're residual value has gone straight through the floor

:19:55. > :20:06.because diesel car sales slump, no finance company is going to do that.

:20:07. > :20:14.You will find a lot of hardship because of these apparently

:20:15. > :20:23.underfinanced link situation. New car registrations are going down. In

:20:24. > :20:30.general. Down by 20%. Suing over pollution. The government facing

:20:31. > :20:40.class action. From diesel vehicles. Absolutely. In the last few years,

:20:41. > :20:48.we have a barrister seeking to bring the action. I am not sure how many

:20:49. > :20:51.people will join in this action by claimants are looking to identify

:20:52. > :20:58.specifically children living in polluted parts of London. More and

:20:59. > :21:08.more people will contact her now that the story is out. On a purely

:21:09. > :21:13.legal basis, not on a moral issue and health issue, sensitivity to

:21:14. > :21:19.people suffering, but purely from the legal basis I cannot see how you

:21:20. > :21:25.are going to get a claim that sticks on such a wide ranging... Where is

:21:26. > :21:32.the cause and effect, and who can prove that it was these that cause

:21:33. > :21:40.these pollution? We all know what is going to happen, it will make a lot

:21:41. > :21:47.of noise. Daily Star is where we will end. 52 premiership stars,

:21:48. > :21:52.after the Everton winger mental health problem coming to light, all

:21:53. > :21:58.sorts of stresses you imagine being a premiership football player are

:21:59. > :22:04.nothing but positive about the stresses they are under a massive.

:22:05. > :22:09.They really are. These are guys who are plucked from school at the age

:22:10. > :22:16.of ten. A lot of them do not develop the coping skills. Everything,

:22:17. > :22:21.especially at the top level, is done for you. When you hit a fork in the

:22:22. > :22:28.road, it is difficult. People really struggle. In foot will there is no

:22:29. > :22:33.great deal of sympathy for quick is all perceived weakness. Years ago

:22:34. > :22:39.clubs were not aware of the problems. Stan Collingwood's

:22:40. > :22:43.experience at Aston Villa, John Gregory at the time, it it was

:22:44. > :22:50.suggested he could have been more supportive. John Gregory did

:22:51. > :22:56.acknowledge that Stan Collingwood needed to go away and get some

:22:57. > :23:01.proper help. He understood eventually the difficulties. One of

:23:02. > :23:09.the problems is... Henry is absolutely right, they are not

:23:10. > :23:16.equipped to deal with problems. Statistically, there have to be

:23:17. > :23:22.quite a few gay footballers but the point is, the culture makes it

:23:23. > :23:31.difficult to be yourself, be normal, be gay, so what, the mental stress

:23:32. > :23:35.that must put on plays is appalling. Even if you are a top player,

:23:36. > :23:43.playing two games a week, there is an awful lot of downtime. They go

:23:44. > :23:51.betting, golf but a lot of people... The devil makes work for idle hands.

:23:52. > :23:57.Too much time, not enough to do and they struggle to cope, especially

:23:58. > :24:01.when they are not playing. A lot would be homesick. We forget this,

:24:02. > :24:07.one day you're playing with your family, nextday you've been

:24:08. > :24:15.transferred to another country. All you are on the bench, not playing.

:24:16. > :24:21.29 years old, on the bench, it can result in a lot of stress. The work

:24:22. > :24:29.the Royal Family have been doing, the younger royals, this might be a

:24:30. > :24:35.bit of a breakthrough. It would be courageous. It would be great. It is

:24:36. > :24:41.a strange word to use but they could be role models. Strange word to use

:24:42. > :24:45.when they are suffering but they could be role models. The former

:24:46. > :24:52.chairman of the PFA attempted suicide a few years ago, now we have

:24:53. > :24:59.Aaron Lennon, let's hope this time people is concerned sticks. And the

:25:00. > :25:09.goalkeeper... You hope to keep it at the front of people 's mind. I will

:25:10. > :25:15.give you seven out of ten. Room for improvement but much better. The

:25:16. > :25:24.talking stick stays with me, I am in charge! That's it for the papers

:25:25. > :25:26.denied. Thank you for coming. Thank you for going. LAUGHTER See you