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:00:15. > :00:17.Hello, and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be

:00:18. > :00:20.With me are journalist Yasmin Alibhai Brown

:00:21. > :00:30.and David Wooding, the political editor of The Sun on Sunday.

:00:31. > :00:32.Tomorrow's front pages, starting with...

:00:33. > :00:34.The Observer headlines on Labour's plans to increase income tax

:00:35. > :00:35.for people earning more than eighty-thousand-pounds,

:00:36. > :00:39.if Jeremy Corbyn becomes the next Prime Minister.

:00:40. > :00:42.The Sunday Telegraph has that same story and also reports

:00:43. > :00:44.that the European Commission's own lawyers say a suggested

:00:45. > :00:51.100 billion euro Brexit divorce bill could not be legally enforced.

:00:52. > :00:57.The Sunday Times - says the move is in a bid

:00:58. > :01:01.to shore up Labour's core support - as a new poll suggests the party has

:01:02. > :01:05.The paper - which is publishing its annual rich list -

:01:06. > :01:07.also says Brexit has seen the combined wealth of the country's

:01:08. > :01:14.The Sunday Express says - Theresa May is to unveil a set

:01:15. > :01:16.of manifesto pledges - which will serve as

:01:17. > :01:23.And The Mail on Sunday criticises a controversial drama to be aired

:01:24. > :01:32.The BBC has defended the production as a "critically acclaimed

:01:33. > :01:34.and fictional" play, which the Mail has described

:01:35. > :01:53.Who shall we start with? Yasmin, The Observer, this seems to be the

:01:54. > :01:57.election story at this early hour, Labour will fund spending by raising

:01:58. > :02:04.tax on ?80,000 earners. A fair amount of detail of what they want.

:02:05. > :02:09.There is, and if the party wasn't in such disarray, which it is, many

:02:10. > :02:14.people would support, I would support it. I would support such a

:02:15. > :02:18.move because in such a hopelessly economically divided country, and we

:02:19. > :02:24.are going to talk about the people who have more money, bathing in

:02:25. > :02:29.money, it doesn't make for a happy society. We have so many reports

:02:30. > :02:35.telling us our children are more miserable, our health is worse than

:02:36. > :02:39.countries which are more equal. The problem is, nothing is held together

:02:40. > :02:44.by this team properly but is trying to sell itself and its policies.

:02:45. > :02:51.This is Labour. I feel terrible saying it. Sticking with the policy

:02:52. > :02:54.that they outline, ?80,000, for an awful lot of people they'll say

:02:55. > :02:58.that's an enormous amount of money. But if you live in the south-east of

:02:59. > :03:02.England and you've got to people working it's not. It's an

:03:03. > :03:08.interesting figure. It's just a bit more than what an MP earns,

:03:09. > :03:11.strangely enough. You mustn't cast any aspersions! The Leader of the

:03:12. > :03:17.Opposition gets rather more. Of course. It's all about where you

:03:18. > :03:22.pitch it. The Conservatives are clearly working out what they do.

:03:23. > :03:25.The Chancellor Philip Hammond has said he needs more room, more

:03:26. > :03:31.flexibility. You'll need tax-raising powers if he can but they want to

:03:32. > :03:36.portray themselves as the party of low taxation. The issue is, there

:03:37. > :03:40.will be 1.2 million people paying more tax. While this will appeal to

:03:41. > :03:44.the hard-core Labour voter in working-class low-paid areas, there

:03:45. > :03:49.will be people in the NHS such as doctors who will be earning more

:03:50. > :03:54.than 80,000 who may think twice, and headteachers. I think if it was well

:03:55. > :03:59.presented as something that was necessary for the NHS, for

:04:00. > :04:12.education, a lot of us would go for it. 85%? 95% of us. We might only

:04:13. > :04:15.problem is is that it's presented hopelessly inadequately.

:04:16. > :04:19.Headteachers earn a lot of money, vice chancellors and a lot of money.

:04:20. > :04:24.It's right they should pay, we should pay. But it's the top cream

:04:25. > :04:29.that finds ways of not paying. It's interesting to me The Sunday

:04:30. > :04:38.Telegraph front page have been same story very much, and their

:04:39. > :04:45.headliners, labour tax to hammer workers, "A savage cash raid". We

:04:46. > :04:49.all know The Telegraph is a right-wing newspaper but the wording

:04:50. > :04:52.matters a lot now. Of course it does. They are focusing on the other

:04:53. > :04:58.aspect which is that Labour haven't said what the tax rise will be for

:04:59. > :05:02.people earning over ?80,000. I think the decision a lot of people will

:05:03. > :05:06.make if taxation is an issue that helps to decide your boat, is when

:05:07. > :05:09.the Conservatives come clean on what they are going to do about taxation.

:05:10. > :05:12.Clearly they don't have a simple choice, they've got to do something

:05:13. > :05:17.about giving the Chancellor money that he needs. One of the things

:05:18. > :05:21.about Brexit that they are going to consider seriously, is that it

:05:22. > :05:29.becomes a low tax economy for those who create jobs. One of the ideas

:05:30. > :05:35.has been to do what Ireland did, which is lower corporation tax and

:05:36. > :05:40.so on. How that fit with the need, as you said, for more money in the

:05:41. > :05:45.coffers? One thing we haven't heard about is this thing about large

:05:46. > :05:49.companies who avoid that. We've got to be careful who we mention because

:05:50. > :05:57.some do and some surprisingly don't. But for the popular bit of politics

:05:58. > :06:00.only a short time ago. Yes. And The Telegraph line is people earning

:06:01. > :06:04.over ?80,000 will have made a success of their lives, some will

:06:05. > :06:08.have clawed their way up to that level and feel, why am I being

:06:09. > :06:13.punished for my success. That is one side of the argument that you've

:06:14. > :06:19.also eloquently expressed the other side of the Ottoman. They will be

:06:20. > :06:23.thinking, what about these huge organisations, multimillionaires,

:06:24. > :06:27.who somehow have creative taxation accountancy, which helps them to

:06:28. > :06:31.avoid paying anything. In the end you have to say, there is such a

:06:32. > :06:35.thing as society. We all share a space. If we all contributed a bit

:06:36. > :06:40.more, that space could be a much better space for us. How many

:06:41. > :06:49.handbags do you need that cost ?30,000? How many? None, in my case!

:06:50. > :06:54.Better ask my wife. LAUGHTER We talked about the Conservatives, it

:06:55. > :06:59.different tact from them today but an interesting one about mental

:07:00. > :07:04.health. It's on the front pages, it's a small story but it's quite

:07:05. > :07:08.important. Theresa May, when she became Prime Minister, one of the

:07:09. > :07:14.first things she did when she stood outside Downing Street in July was

:07:15. > :07:18.said she wants to end the prejudices in our society. One of the

:07:19. > :07:22.prejudices was against people suffering from mental health. What

:07:23. > :07:30.she is announcing today, which is in the papers, is that she wants to

:07:31. > :07:36.scrap the 1983 Mental Health Act, which is regarded by campaigners as

:07:37. > :07:40.being completely unfit and out of date, an anachronism in fact. She

:07:41. > :07:45.says it discriminates against people. Apart from that it will

:07:46. > :07:50.reduce the number of people who are detained, sometimes often in police

:07:51. > :07:53.cells. There is a disproportionate number of black and ethnic people

:07:54. > :07:56.locked up under the Mental Health Act and she hopes it. That. There's

:07:57. > :08:06.also other action being announced here, such as mental health first

:08:07. > :08:10.aid as in schools. Some kids suffer from mental health issues at the age

:08:11. > :08:14.of 14 because of things like cyber bullying and the workplace will be

:08:15. > :08:19.forced to have mental health first aid is as well. All of this is going

:08:20. > :08:26.to cost money. I recently spoke to someone from the Royal College of

:08:27. > :08:31.psychiatry. Funding for a lot of these developments of young people

:08:32. > :08:34.being distressed to the point of non-functionality, there is no

:08:35. > :08:37.money. So it's no good our Prime Minister saying I want to do

:08:38. > :08:41.something about it. It's good she's getting rid of this awful archaic

:08:42. > :08:47.law, but where is the money to really provide the kind of services

:08:48. > :08:50.every section of the population now need is to mark why are we so

:08:51. > :08:54.mentally ill is a question which I think relates back to the terrible

:08:55. > :09:01.inequalities that we've gone through and are living with now. The funding

:09:02. > :09:06.issues needs to be answered. She say she will employ an extra 10,000

:09:07. > :09:15.medical health medical staff in the NHS by 2020. Labour say that there

:09:16. > :09:19.has been a reduction of 6000. I often wonder where these figures...

:09:20. > :09:23.They always seem suspiciously rounded up. I'm talking about all

:09:24. > :09:27.the political parties who do it. If there's been a big fall, you've got

:09:28. > :09:34.to make up that shortfall before you stop recruiting more. But also,

:09:35. > :09:38.various other things have been cut, where very high levels of mental

:09:39. > :09:43.distress, like women's refuges. Where quite a lot of women who have

:09:44. > :09:47.been abused is to find shelter and find a lot of therapeutic help.

:09:48. > :09:52.They've been shut down across the country. No joined up thinking about

:09:53. > :09:57.the needs that are there and how you fund them and do it properly. What I

:09:58. > :10:01.think is positive about this is that mental health is being treated more

:10:02. > :10:06.seriously by all politicians and a good thing that the celebrities have

:10:07. > :10:12.done, a lot of celebrities, footballers, the Royals, they've all

:10:13. > :10:16.come out and spoken about it. The stigma is slowly being removed and I

:10:17. > :10:21.think that's good. If Theresa May is really going to do this, good for

:10:22. > :10:31.her. It's made of the newspapers as well. The Mail on Sunday has it as

:10:32. > :10:38.well. There's a spread in The Mail on Sunday and we've got it on page

:10:39. > :10:42.two in The Sun. Let's move on. Yasmin, start off on the rich list.

:10:43. > :10:48.You've already mentioned that you aren't in favour of ?20,000

:10:49. > :10:55.handbags. Not necessary. Are you in a state of rage about billionaires

:10:56. > :11:00.generally? Is fascinating, isn't it? It's not fascinating. Why are you

:11:01. > :11:05.begin people? OK, you start up a company and you do well and that's

:11:06. > :11:10.fine, it's capitalism, I have no problems with that. But the real

:11:11. > :11:14.heroes of our country are those neurosurgeons who are saving lives.

:11:15. > :11:22.Why don't we have a list our top doctors? Our top social service

:11:23. > :11:28.workers? This concentration on the quite offensive amounts of money...

:11:29. > :11:33.We have food banks growing around the country. I'm sorry, there's

:11:34. > :11:43.nothing to celebrate for me here. OK, let's not celebrate, let's

:11:44. > :11:48.report. Again, it's the Hinduja brothers who are always at the top.

:11:49. > :11:53.They've increased their wealth by ?3.2 billion to ?16.2 billion on

:11:54. > :11:58.oils, plastics and other things. They've opened a posh hotel in

:11:59. > :12:07.London. The overall figures are quite fun. The fortunes have risen

:12:08. > :12:12.by 14%, this has been fuelled by what is called the Brexit boom. This

:12:13. > :12:17.is to do with in some way the buoyant stock market and also the

:12:18. > :12:20.weaker pound. A lot of these multi billionaires have money invested

:12:21. > :12:26.overseas. An interesting fact is that we now have 134 billionaires in

:12:27. > :12:33.the UK. There were only 14 last year. That is a huge leap. There are

:12:34. > :12:38.86 billionaires in London which is more than in any other city in the

:12:39. > :12:41.world. And how much tax do they pay? And do they see the beggars on the

:12:42. > :12:55.street, or they don't walk the streets? They can look at the back

:12:56. > :13:01.of the Rolls-Royce. Not all people... There is a funny picture

:13:02. > :13:07.on the front page of Adele where she is pretending to be this Catherine

:13:08. > :13:12.Tate character. She likes disguises. She's made about ?125 million. I

:13:13. > :13:17.remember a while ago when she didn't like the taxes she was having to pay

:13:18. > :13:24.as her money went up. Actually, again, how many handbags do you

:13:25. > :13:33.need, Adele? JK Rowling, ?650 million, Harry Potter wizardry

:13:34. > :13:38.there. She still says she a socialist, interestingly. Some

:13:39. > :13:42.people go down. Sir Philip Greene, there's a name. And Mike Ashley of

:13:43. > :13:50.Sports Direct. There is a God! LAUGHTER It brings me onto another

:13:51. > :13:53.thing, David, there are a lot of people who are very wealthy who

:13:54. > :13:58.don't ever appear in this list. They make sure they don't talk to the

:13:59. > :14:02.researchers, or the researchers can't find out. There must be a lot

:14:03. > :14:08.of that about. There is. I disagree with you on this one. Oh David, no!

:14:09. > :14:16.I'm not supporting them and good luck to some of them. I find it

:14:17. > :14:26.fascinating reading the magazine because it breaks it down into the

:14:27. > :14:33.arts, doctors, football, everything. Journalists don't seem to appear in

:14:34. > :14:37.there! LAUGHTER We are more concerned about the Labour story on

:14:38. > :14:45.the taxes, I think. Let's move onto a story altogether. It's in a couple

:14:46. > :14:51.of the papers, The Mail on Sunday. Pride and plagiarism, no TV

:14:52. > :15:01.historian, Lucy insists... What is this about? Lucy Worsley has written

:15:02. > :15:07.a book about Jane Austen and there is a suggestion that she cut and

:15:08. > :15:17.pasted it and tickled around with it a bit from another book... Paula

:15:18. > :15:21.Byrne. They say all the facts are in there. Her response is that there

:15:22. > :15:24.are a lot of books written about Jane Austen and all these facts are

:15:25. > :15:30.common ground and she hasn't lifted it. The gracious Doctor Byrne is

:15:31. > :15:38.saying, I'm not getting involved in this one. She says, the more books

:15:39. > :15:41.about Jane Austin, the better the Jane Austen. Jane Austen has been

:15:42. > :15:47.gone a number of years, there can't be much more new to say about her.

:15:48. > :15:51.There can't. This is one of the dangers of our times. You can Google

:15:52. > :15:56.anything and once upon a time you had to sit in the library, take a

:15:57. > :16:01.book down and write your own notes in pencil in the British library.

:16:02. > :16:06.Now it's all feeding into you. Sometimes I think it's quite easy to

:16:07. > :16:10.forget it came through another source because it becomes quickly

:16:11. > :16:15.part of the way you think. Quite a lot of authors have landed in

:16:16. > :16:20.trouble by unconsciously almost filtering information that had

:16:21. > :16:25.earlier appeared. It's a great drama, this unconscious plagiarism.

:16:26. > :16:30.We get this in newspapers will be break an exclusive and put it

:16:31. > :16:34.online, then it's cut and pasted into people's blogs, virtually word

:16:35. > :16:38.for word, by people who attack the paper and say they don't like it.

:16:39. > :16:44.Then they put it on their own websites in the same language. In

:16:45. > :16:50.other sections of The Daily Mail, it does a separate review of Lucy

:16:51. > :16:54.Worsley's book and it gives her four stars out of five. LAUGHTER You like

:16:55. > :16:58.her, that's it!