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:00:00. > :00:08.the Toxteth area. A man has been arrested. And in Meet The Author I

:00:09. > :00:11.will be speaking to the author David Baldacci about his latest novel, Fur

:00:12. > :00:23.Fix. Hello and welcome to our look at

:00:24. > :00:28.what the papers will be bringing us tomorrow, a lot of one particular

:00:29. > :00:36.story, Tim Stanley, columnist at the Daily Telegraph, joins me with

:00:37. > :00:44.Benedicte Paviot, UK correspondent at France 24. The Financial Times

:00:45. > :00:47.headlines Emmanuel Macron's win in the French presidential election

:00:48. > :00:52.saying his win is a phenomenal achievement. The Metro calls him big

:00:53. > :00:56.Mac after he took over 65% of the vote in the second round. The

:00:57. > :01:01.Guardian says Mr Macron must now reunite it if fans after the far

:01:02. > :01:05.right Marine Le Pen received over 11 million votes. The Times receives

:01:06. > :01:09.that Emmanuel Macron received a landslide victory as fans elect its

:01:10. > :01:13.youngest leaders and is Napoleon. The Telegraph warns that the

:01:14. > :01:17.election of the Europhile could have an effect on Brexit negotiations

:01:18. > :01:21.with the European Union. And the Daily Mail leads with an exclusive

:01:22. > :01:25.in which it says that loyalty with an insurer can cost families an

:01:26. > :01:30.extra ?1000 a year. Interesting that some papers don't even mention the

:01:31. > :01:34.French presidential election. They won't feature much in this review.

:01:35. > :01:38.Maybe at past 11 we will look at broccoli on the front page of the

:01:39. > :01:42.Daily Express but we can't promise. Emmanuel Macron wins the presidency,

:01:43. > :01:46.yet the country remains divided. He was very much aware of that when he

:01:47. > :01:54.appeared on TV shortly after it became that he had won, Benedicte. ,

:01:55. > :01:59.Yes, this 39-year-old who resigned from the government only last summer

:02:00. > :02:05.and set up a movement, it is still a movement, not a party, with no

:02:06. > :02:08.official subsidies from the French authorities, En Marche, and he has

:02:09. > :02:15.astonishingly confounded all the predictions of the experts and

:02:16. > :02:19.tonight he is president elect of France. A certain Emmanuel Macron.

:02:20. > :02:24.He has reason to be solemn. The country is in a state of emergency

:02:25. > :02:29.still. There's a lot of major terrorist threats, as we know.

:02:30. > :02:33.French and policeman -- a French prison killed and another seriously

:02:34. > :02:39.injured on the Champs-Elysees, stagnant economy, huge unemployment,

:02:40. > :02:44.10%, that was the very pledge that the then candidate Francois Hollande

:02:45. > :02:49.said he should be judged on. And there is a lot to do. I thought it

:02:50. > :03:00.was interesting that Mr Macron talked about serving France and

:03:01. > :03:05.talked about the monumental task, la tache colossale that he has in front

:03:06. > :03:10.of him. It was a fractured campaign, we knew that since the first round,

:03:11. > :03:15.whistle that tonight. Marine Le Pen has lost resoundingly, Mr Macron has

:03:16. > :03:19.won comfortably, easily, but the fact is that what Marine Le Pen has

:03:20. > :03:24.achieved is in itself extraordinary. So Mr Macron has a lot to do. He is

:03:25. > :03:28.an independent, he says he's not from the left of right and he has

:03:29. > :03:32.the small matter of parliamentary elections in June and he needs to

:03:33. > :03:35.rally support behind him if he is to push through any or all of the

:03:36. > :03:43.reforms that he wants to do and unite France. There is no point in

:03:44. > :03:47.trying to compete on the French pronunciation front with this woman,

:03:48. > :03:58.Tim! Alaves I will speak in pidgin English! So you have this man who

:03:59. > :04:02.has won by 65% to 35%. Yet he positioned himself as not being of

:04:03. > :04:07.the establishment. For a lot of people, of course he is. This is one

:04:08. > :04:13.in a long line of remarkable elections that have changed politics

:04:14. > :04:18.across the world. Brexit, Trump and now Macron. The old parties seem to

:04:19. > :04:23.be unable to come up with solutions to France's myriad problems, a

:04:24. > :04:27.socialist was brought down by a corruption scandal, a communist did

:04:28. > :04:32.well in the first round and it came down to two people from outside

:04:33. > :04:38.mainstream politics, one independent and one rationalist. So the very

:04:39. > :04:43.fact that it was him this is her shows the scale of change -- one

:04:44. > :04:48.independent this is one rationalist. He has won that many people will say

:04:49. > :04:52.that he won because of who he was opposing. And I agree that although

:04:53. > :04:57.she lost the increase in the vote, National Front since when her father

:04:58. > :05:02.run is substantial. And for all the controversy around her to do one

:05:03. > :05:07.third of the vote is remarkable. On top of that roughly one third of

:05:08. > :05:11.eligible voters chose not to vote. An extraordinary figure of 4.2

:05:12. > :05:16.million people chose to spoil their ballot. So on the one hand, I'm

:05:17. > :05:22.saying that Emmanuel Macron yes, he has pulled off an extraordinary coup

:05:23. > :05:26.and reshaped French politics. On the other hand he is where he is because

:05:27. > :05:31.of a series of mishaps, accidents and forces of history well beyond

:05:32. > :05:36.his control. And the question is now, can he translate as he tried to

:05:37. > :05:40.do in his speech this evening this remarkable upsetting surprising

:05:41. > :05:46.victory into a coherent policy, a coherent approach towards

:05:47. > :05:50.government, and the question of a coherent political force? Just one

:05:51. > :05:55.line, I'm sorry, Martine, in the Guardian, I haven't seen it in the

:05:56. > :05:58.other papers, the calamitous performance in the final TV debate.

:05:59. > :06:04.I'm not suggesting any parallel with anyone who doesn't want to take part

:06:05. > :06:09.in UK TV debates but French TV debates in presidential campaigns

:06:10. > :06:13.before have not been massive vote winners. Marine Le Pen absolutely

:06:14. > :06:17.flanked her major test last Wednesday. But will have helped some

:06:18. > :06:22.people who are floating voters and said, this woman cannot be our

:06:23. > :06:28.president. Yet the polls after the debate suggested it had not changed

:06:29. > :06:32.things for her, for better or worse. But the polls immediately after the

:06:33. > :06:35.debate said that the person who had won the debate easily was Mr Macron

:06:36. > :06:42.and that he had the presidential qualities. The Times says a

:06:43. > :06:46.landslide for Macron, with pictures of his supporters celebrating

:06:47. > :06:54.outside the Louvre, he has got five years to prove that he can make

:06:55. > :07:00.these changes that he's promising. And if not will she be back again?

:07:01. > :07:05.This is what many people are predicting. Nigel Farage, who is

:07:06. > :07:09.turning into our very own voice of the outside right in the UK,

:07:10. > :07:13.predicted that she would return in the next round of elections and that

:07:14. > :07:17.she would win. What she wants to do now is when a large number of seats

:07:18. > :07:22.in the parliamentary elections so that she has some kind of foothold

:07:23. > :07:27.to do that. There's also talk that you wants to change the name of the

:07:28. > :07:31.party. That's right. In her acceptance speech, or defeat speech

:07:32. > :07:36.I should say, she wants to change the name of the party. This will be

:07:37. > :07:40.part of her changing the brand and distancing herself. She could do it

:07:41. > :07:43.tomorrow or the day after. She's got to move quickly, she wants to get in

:07:44. > :07:52.there and do well in the parliamentary elections. Macron said

:07:53. > :07:55.this in his speech, he said he wanted to change things so that

:07:56. > :07:59.people who voted for her would feel they would never have to vote for an

:08:00. > :08:04.extremist again. That means he has to get the economy right, and

:08:05. > :08:08.security, address this question of Frenchness, this existential threat

:08:09. > :08:12.to French identity which many seem to feel. Those are very difficult

:08:13. > :08:17.problems and if he fails it is conceivable that her vote will go

:08:18. > :08:21.up. If nothing else, given the scale of the vote, given how comfortably

:08:22. > :08:24.she got into the second round, it looks as if her great achievement is

:08:25. > :08:32.to make the Front National the opposition within France. That is

:08:33. > :08:38.her goal. How instructive will what happened in Britain beat the Ukip

:08:39. > :08:43.vote where they lost 143 of their wards -- how will it be to the Ukip

:08:44. > :08:48.vote? They don't have a single MP left, how instructive will that be

:08:49. > :08:53.for Mr Macron on how to see off a party that is further to the right?

:08:54. > :08:59.He is very well read, he met Theresa May back in February, by the way,

:09:00. > :09:03.she has warmly congratulated Mr Macron tonight and says that France

:09:04. > :09:07.is one of the UK's closest allies and says they look forward to

:09:08. > :09:12.working with the new president who will take office on May 14 on a wide

:09:13. > :09:19.range of shared priorities. What lessons? Well I think that he knows

:09:20. > :09:24.that the task is huge. And I think his whole appeal to a lot of people

:09:25. > :09:28.has been to say, I don't believe that looking at the experience,

:09:29. > :09:34.having been in government for two years, as a finance minister, having

:09:35. > :09:37.been also had two years the chief economic adviser of Francois

:09:38. > :09:40.Hollande, people forget that, he has seen the inner workings of

:09:41. > :09:46.government and says, we must forget these totally left and right issues.

:09:47. > :09:51.And what is interesting and will be very instructive in the coming days

:09:52. > :09:53.is to watch the number of Les Republicains, French conservatives

:09:54. > :09:58.will continue to support Emmanuel Macron and who will be prepared to

:09:59. > :10:02.have their names put with him and say that they will support him in a

:10:03. > :10:08.government, it will be very instructive to see who he presents,

:10:09. > :10:13.who he appoints as Prime Minister, one who will be appointed

:10:14. > :10:17.immediately, man or woman, I'm hearing a lot about 52-year-old MEP

:10:18. > :10:21.woman tonight, whether it will be her or not, and that Prime Minister

:10:22. > :10:25.May not be his Prime Minister depending on what the results are in

:10:26. > :10:30.the parliamentary elections and to the Minister decides -- of the

:10:31. > :10:37.people decides in June he must work with. Cloud of a Brexit, said the

:10:38. > :10:41.headlines, EU leaders hailing the victory, Angela Merkel delighted

:10:42. > :10:46.that she has this man to do business with. Should she be? That's the

:10:47. > :10:51.interesting question. There are two takes on his win when it comes to

:10:52. > :10:54.Brexit. On the one hand like most European leaders he has been very

:10:55. > :10:58.critical of Brexit. He described it as a crime which is an extraordinary

:10:59. > :11:03.word to use. So there's a lot of worry that in a crude national

:11:04. > :11:07.interest since this was a bad outcome for Britain because at least

:11:08. > :11:11.Marine Le Pen what have been Eurosceptic and would have been

:11:12. > :11:16.against the EU whereas this man very much stands for a unified Europe. On

:11:17. > :11:20.the other hand what does he want to do. He wants to shift institutional

:11:21. > :11:28.power. And the focus of economic decision making away from Germany,

:11:29. > :11:33.which dominates, and towards France. Emmanuel Macron is interested in a

:11:34. > :11:37.more integrated economic policy and crucially or deflationary one, which

:11:38. > :11:42.encourages Germans to spend and consumers to buy stuff and to get

:11:43. > :11:54.the European economic working again. He is far more of a Keynesian fan a

:11:55. > :11:57.Conservative. So you could argue that he represents an attitude which

:11:58. > :12:02.modern Eurosceptics would welcome. So I don't know if it's such a good

:12:03. > :12:06.thing for Angela Merkel. We could seek the politics of Europe shift

:12:07. > :12:11.slightly away from Berlin and towards Paris. I'm not sure I share

:12:12. > :12:15.that vision. I think he has indicated that he wants to work

:12:16. > :12:19.closely with Angela Merkel. In fact Marine Le Pen, one of her main

:12:20. > :12:23.accusations in the TV debate said, either way it will be a woman who

:12:24. > :12:31.will rule, Sunday night because she said it would either be hurt or

:12:32. > :12:35.Angela Merkel. The point is, that either her or Angela Merkel. Mr

:12:36. > :12:40.Macron knows that he needs to work closely with Germany. It is a very

:12:41. > :12:45.different vision of France in the EU and for the EU and Mr Macron said it

:12:46. > :12:49.would be no walk in the park as far as the Brexit negotiations were

:12:50. > :12:54.concerned and he has talked about also as the Daily Telegraph points

:12:55. > :12:58.out, defending the integrity of the EU single market and the

:12:59. > :13:09.jurisdiction of the European Court of Justice. I think we could have a

:13:10. > :13:13.rapid visit by President elect Macron. Remember that Theresa May

:13:14. > :13:18.chose to meet him and just not to meet Marine Le Pen. I want to

:13:19. > :13:25.quickly defend my argument... While you are doing that can be just show

:13:26. > :13:30.the Financial Times? Thank you! We run extracts from the memoirs of the

:13:31. > :13:34.Greek leader about the Greek crisis and he revealed that the one person

:13:35. > :13:38.in Europe he felt was friendly towards Greece's interests and

:13:39. > :13:43.understood what was being done to it was unfair and bad in the long-term,

:13:44. > :13:48.was Mr Macron. He said he thought Mr Macron was squeezed out of taking

:13:49. > :13:53.part in negotiations in the process because the Germans saw that he

:13:54. > :13:57.disagreed with them on policy. One way in which again he is bad for

:13:58. > :14:01.Brexit is, what France really wants to do is make sure that Britain

:14:02. > :14:06.doesn't do a race to the bottom in terms of regulation and tax after

:14:07. > :14:11.Brexit. So I think fans will really emphasise that strongly. France is

:14:12. > :14:14.keen to attract the City and get a brain drain going from London to

:14:15. > :14:19.Paris because it's been going the other way to such a long time. So in

:14:20. > :14:24.that sense is bad for Brexit, probably. He says, Britain, you want

:14:25. > :14:29.to be in control of your borders, we want to do it for you in Calais,

:14:30. > :14:33.have it back in Dover. That's why I'm surprised the French election

:14:34. > :14:37.hasn't made the front of the Daily Mail! There you are, said it. Hello

:14:38. > :14:42.Daily Mail. Maybe they will their minds. I'm sure that there will be

:14:43. > :14:47.discussions quite quickly about that. Let's see. It's one thing when

:14:48. > :14:52.you are campaigning, it's another when you have the office of

:14:53. > :14:56.president, and what they do decide on that, because that would change

:14:57. > :15:02.things a great deal for people coming into the UK. But then a great

:15:03. > :15:06.deal will change in the coming two years for the United Kingdom and for

:15:07. > :15:12.Europeans coming possibly, depending on what the powers that be decide in

:15:13. > :15:18.the Brexit steel and the status of EU Citizens and that equally of

:15:19. > :15:23.Brits in the EU. And he needs some MPs behind him. He has, elections

:15:24. > :15:28.will happen next month. At present En Marche, his party, doesn't have a

:15:29. > :15:32.single member. So he's got to get some. Presumably he'll be able to

:15:33. > :15:36.translate some of his momentum into a large number of seats. But if we

:15:37. > :15:39.can assume that the first round of elections indeed reflected the

:15:40. > :15:45.divisions accurately within France, there's no reason to presume that

:15:46. > :15:48.Jean-Luc Melenchon's people want to do well or force were Ffion's

:15:49. > :15:52.people, or indeed the Front National. So he may end up the

:15:53. > :15:59.parliament that is quite difficult deal with. That's it the papers of

:16:00. > :16:06.the moment, I'll be back with Tim and Benedicte at 11:30pm for another

:16:07. > :16:07.look at the front pages. Coming up next, Meet