11/05/2017

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:00:16. > :00:18.Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be

:00:19. > :00:22.With me are Ayesha Hazarika, the former Labour political

:00:23. > :00:24.adviser and now comedian, and the Conservative

:00:25. > :00:37.Tomorrow's front pages, starting with...

:00:38. > :00:56.The Times leads with the Labour Party's cleat manifesto, saying they

:00:57. > :00:59.are facing a doctor to the Guardian takes a different angle saying the

:01:00. > :01:05.party is rallying around the proposals.

:01:06. > :01:06.The Independent picks up the Bank of England's

:01:07. > :01:08.latest forecast, which suggest incomes could get squeezed.

:01:09. > :01:10.The Financial Times notes that Japan's Soft Bank

:01:11. > :01:13.is investing $500 million in a UK tech start-up.

:01:14. > :01:14.The NHS makes the Mirror's lead story -

:01:15. > :01:17.with nurses urging the government to end a 1% paycap.

:01:18. > :01:19.The Express focuses on what it calls a "dementia crisis",

:01:20. > :01:22.reporting that some families are being forced to pay ?100,000

:01:23. > :01:38.Let's begin on the first of our papers with the front page of the

:01:39. > :01:41.eye. Labour's ?50 billion wish list. Ayesha, presumably it hasn't

:01:42. > :01:48.actually been costed as that, that is their best guest. -- best guess.

:01:49. > :01:52.I think the diggers will be a slightly movable feast but it's not

:01:53. > :01:56.about the figures, it's about the bold political signal that Jeremy

:01:57. > :02:02.Corbyn was sending out today. We have had two years of Jeremy Corbyn

:02:03. > :02:06.today, a lot of criticism, but his team came out swinging today,

:02:07. > :02:16.absolute cobblers. Some would say this was Michael foot tribute act --

:02:17. > :02:26.absolute Jeremy Corbyn. He has not shied away from putting forward his

:02:27. > :02:34.choices, his policies, and there is a very clear choice on the ballot

:02:35. > :02:37.paper. I think the Labour Party have managed to convert, everyone is

:02:38. > :02:44.talking about it and people are certainly talking about the boldness

:02:45. > :02:52.of it. Tim, you get the front page of the eye and then you get the

:02:53. > :02:57.alternative take on Ayesha's which is fantasyland. Boyle the

:02:58. > :03:03.Conservatives be licking their lips over this? I think this has worked

:03:04. > :03:10.well for the Labour Party over the last 24 hours. They have had good

:03:11. > :03:15.publicity and Jeremy Corbyn looks like a happy warrior on the news

:03:16. > :03:20.tonight. It's a contrast with Theresa May's quite scripted style

:03:21. > :03:25.but the one thing that isn't in the leak was the costings. I wonder

:03:26. > :03:29.whether there's a gap now between this leak and the publication which

:03:30. > :03:33.the Tory party will fill. I'm sure that's what the Tory campaign

:03:34. > :03:39.strategist will now do, so that perhaps on Saturday or Sunday's

:03:40. > :03:43.papers, the will be attacking Corbyn before Labour get their costings

:03:44. > :03:47.out. The Tories will try to have the first strike. Often a story that

:03:48. > :03:52.looks good for the first 24 hours can take on a different life

:03:53. > :03:56.afterwards. In a way, we're already starting to see this. The male are

:03:57. > :04:04.saying this will cost every family ?4000 but I think the calculation

:04:05. > :04:10.that Corbyn's team have taken on this is that the average family will

:04:11. > :04:14.not get bogged down in the costings of this, they will see things they

:04:15. > :04:18.like, and they think as well because there was a lot of talk of the media

:04:19. > :04:22.being biased against Corbyn and things like that, and a lot of

:04:23. > :04:27.people get their news three Facebook and social media, I think they are

:04:28. > :04:32.taking quite a bold move to try to make an emotional, populist appeal.

:04:33. > :04:42.You are doing a very good job on this. God loves a try. You are right

:04:43. > :04:48.about some of the press on this and there was acquired last night from

:04:49. > :04:52.Margaret Thatcher which was that the problem with socialism is that

:04:53. > :04:59.eventually socialists run out of other peoples money. I think that's

:05:00. > :05:02.problem with this. Labour lost office because they look like they

:05:03. > :05:06.spent too much money and they couldn't control public finances. I

:05:07. > :05:11.would say one thing on that. There was quite a howl of discontent about

:05:12. > :05:15.how much people feel on inequality at the moment. Even though the

:05:16. > :05:19.dominant narrative is against Corbyn, you can never say never. The

:05:20. > :05:26.polls have got it wrong in lots of elections. Not this wrong. We will

:05:27. > :05:31.come back to that. We will look in passing at the front page of the

:05:32. > :05:34.Guardian. If the eye is the positive and the Daily Mail is no negative,

:05:35. > :05:42.the Guardian is looking for middle ground. That is a pretty straight

:05:43. > :05:49.headline. I am more worried that Star Wars is 40. I remember going to

:05:50. > :05:55.it as a kid. The daily Mirror might make you feel even older. The actor

:05:56. > :06:01.who played cat weasel has died. There's a childhood memory many

:06:02. > :06:08.people will have. He looks a bit like Jeremy Corbyn. Right, you are

:06:09. > :06:14.off Jeremy Corbyn's Christmas card list. Although if he doesn't win

:06:15. > :06:21.number ten and there is every Mac, it might be a job for him. It is

:06:22. > :06:27.interesting that in the phone in Theresa May was in this evening, the

:06:28. > :06:31.first question came from a nurse. The NHS has always been a difficult

:06:32. > :06:37.issue for the Conservative Party at elections. Even know so much has

:06:38. > :06:41.been cut during these years of austerity, plenty of budgets

:06:42. > :06:44.typically associated with the Tories, the defence budget, the

:06:45. > :06:47.police budget, the Conservatives have kept putting money over and

:06:48. > :06:51.above inflation into the NHS but it's still their Achilles' heel.

:06:52. > :06:55.It's still something the public worries about. Do you think they

:06:56. > :07:00.worry about it in a sense that they worry about the political damage

:07:01. > :07:02.that health is finished you can do to the Conservatives? Even though

:07:03. > :07:07.the Conservative governments have probably been running the NHS longer

:07:08. > :07:11.than Labour governments because they have been in office for longer? I

:07:12. > :07:15.think they should worry about it. We have been fortunate not to have

:07:16. > :07:19.extreme winter is the last few winters get the NHS has still been

:07:20. > :07:23.at the brink. We only need a bad winter in the next few years and it

:07:24. > :07:28.really will be tested to its limits. I think the health service is one of

:07:29. > :07:31.those issues that is very symbolic of the Labour Party and people

:07:32. > :07:36.always fill the Labour Party is more likely to look after the NHS. And

:07:37. > :07:40.that sometimes constrains what the Labour Party feel they can do. In

:07:41. > :07:46.terms of having a radical agenda and talking about modernising the NHS. I

:07:47. > :07:51.think the NHS will loom large in this campaign. Brexit is not proving

:07:52. > :07:54.to be as much of a lightning conductor issue as they thought. I

:07:55. > :07:58.think health and education and things like social care will be very

:07:59. > :08:07.important. Social care I agree with you. In the Copeland by-election,

:08:08. > :08:10.the Labour seat held by them for decades, Labour ran very tough scare

:08:11. > :08:17.stories about the local hospital and the Tories still won. I think that

:08:18. > :08:21.the leadership issue and also the nuclear issue. I think there's a

:08:22. > :08:27.chance that Labour have overplayed this card and made it too political.

:08:28. > :08:31.True, but there is also a lot of public sympathy for... When you have

:08:32. > :08:34.stories of nurses writing to the Prime Minister talking about their

:08:35. > :08:40.pay, when you hear that nurses have got to go to payday loan companies

:08:41. > :08:45.and to food banks, begging the Prime Minister that they are in poverty,

:08:46. > :08:48.that is very emotive. It is interesting that you brought

:08:49. > :08:52.that up because I've put this to a party spokesman from Labour and the

:08:53. > :08:56.Conservatives. I said, Labour you are saying vote against the Tories

:08:57. > :09:00.because the Prime Minister has said it may not be appropriate to keep

:09:01. > :09:03.the maternity unit at this hospital and people should perhaps travel

:09:04. > :09:08.further. If you vote Labour you will be sending a message, but their

:09:09. > :09:11.policy wasn't necessarily to do anything different and equally their

:09:12. > :09:15.policy decision would be made by health service managers not by

:09:16. > :09:18.politicians. Similarly, the Conservatives were saying our local

:09:19. > :09:24.candidate supports keeping this hospital whatever the local

:09:25. > :09:27.candidate might have said. That was equally dishonest because they

:09:28. > :09:30.weren't making the decision either. What is it about health that

:09:31. > :09:36.politicians think they can play these games are public expectations

:09:37. > :09:40.or is it our fault as well? I think it is difficult because it

:09:41. > :09:46.impossible to be giving the honest about the health service challenges

:09:47. > :09:50.that are faced. Even an infinite amount of money might not be enough

:09:51. > :09:54.because of the challenge of the health service. It's such an emotive

:09:55. > :09:57.issue because what's hard for any political party is when you are

:09:58. > :10:00.essentially in a short-term cycle, to look at the health service

:10:01. > :10:06.properly, to really review it and make it fit for the future, join it

:10:07. > :10:09.up with social care, have prevention strategies and things, that's

:10:10. > :10:13.radical thinking that's probably 15 or 20 years down the track. And when

:10:14. > :10:19.there are financial restraint as difficult as well. I think that's

:10:20. > :10:23.Labour's problem, the financial restraints. It's a card the

:10:24. > :10:27.Conservatives are good at playing, you can't look after the National

:10:28. > :10:29.health service, you don't look after the economy properly I think that's

:10:30. > :10:34.why it won't work the Jeremy Corbyn because people don't think he's got

:10:35. > :10:38.a basic level of economic competence. I don't know if people

:10:39. > :10:45.think that Theresa May has the level of empathy to look after NHS. I have

:10:46. > :10:51.to ask you, are you missing being in the thick of it? Are you missing not

:10:52. > :10:53.party headquarters this time round party headquarters this time round

:10:54. > :10:59.because you have both been in the past? I have to say I have and

:11:00. > :11:01.that's partly because working on an election campaign is that a

:11:02. > :11:05.fantastically interesting thing for all the good things and bad things

:11:06. > :11:09.that go wrong. There's a lot of adrenaline and it's exciting. Not

:11:10. > :11:14.much actually because I think the campaign is quite dull. I think the

:11:15. > :11:17.exciting thing will be afterwards, potentially the ructions within the

:11:18. > :11:28.Labour Party, Theresa May getting together whether -- getting to grips

:11:29. > :11:32.with the Brexit negotiations. If she wins. I think she just might.

:11:33. > :11:37.Don't forget you can see the front pages of the papers online

:11:38. > :11:42.It's all there for you - 7 days a week at bbc.co.uk/papers -

:11:43. > :11:46.and if you miss the programme any evening, you can watch it