:00:15. > :00:17.Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be
:00:18. > :00:20.With me are Camilla Tominey, Deputy political editor
:00:21. > :00:28.at The Daily Express and the Broadcaster, David Davies.
:00:29. > :00:31.Let's have a look at some front pages.
:00:32. > :00:33.The Sun leads with tonight's news that the Moors murderer,
:00:34. > :00:39.They say he never revealed where he buried one of his vitims.
:00:40. > :00:43.The Times also carries a picture Ian Brady,
:00:44. > :00:46.The Times also carries a picture of Ian Brady,
:00:47. > :00:49.but leads with a drugs firm facing a fine of hundreds of millions
:00:50. > :00:51.of pounds, for increasing the cost of cancer medicines.
:00:52. > :00:54.The FT says the hackers could be ready to launch a second global
:00:55. > :00:58.cyber attack using a system stolen from US spies.
:00:59. > :01:01.Ahead of tomorrow's manifesto launch - the i's headline is 'Labour's
:01:02. > :01:04.tax grab on the rich', with the paper expected to propose
:01:05. > :01:11.extending the top rate to those earning above ?80,000 a year.
:01:12. > :01:13.The Telegraph leads on the same story -
:01:14. > :01:15.claiming that almost a million middle-class people would be dragged
:01:16. > :01:18.into paying the top rate of income tax under Labour's plans.
:01:19. > :01:22.While The Guardian reports a Labour manifesto pledging a levy on firms
:01:23. > :01:24.paying over ?330,000 on individual wages.
:01:25. > :01:26.The Metro focuses on the search for body of missing schoolgirl
:01:27. > :01:31.Danielle Jones, following a tip-off, 16 years after she disappeared.
:01:32. > :01:35.And the Express says a balanced diet and exercise can
:01:36. > :01:59.Another winner from you. The Sunday express, actually. Got out of that
:02:00. > :02:04.one very nicely, neat footwork in there. Appreciate that, very good.
:02:05. > :02:10.We're going to go with the sun. Breaking news tonight, Ian Brady has
:02:11. > :02:16.died. At Ashworth psychiatric hospital. I think we have the front
:02:17. > :02:19.page of the paper. There it is. That's how they are referring to
:02:20. > :02:27.him. A lot of people feel that way and this day could not come soon
:02:28. > :02:30.enough. I think as well, when you look at that headline and the
:02:31. > :02:34.description of monster and the mugshot, the of him alongside Myra
:02:35. > :02:42.are probably some of the most awful the iconic images of the 60s and
:02:43. > :02:45.have lived with us for many generations. I am starkly reminded
:02:46. > :02:50.of Winnie Johnson 's death, the mother of Keith Bennett in 2012, and
:02:51. > :02:54.reading her obituary and this poor woman who went to her grave not
:02:55. > :02:58.knowing where her 12-year-old son was buried. That is still the case
:02:59. > :03:03.for all these families so this man, this monster who are on a number of
:03:04. > :03:07.occasions took the police on a wild goose chase on the moors discovered
:03:08. > :03:10.nothing, and families had no pleasure whatsoever. This will not
:03:11. > :03:15.be closure for them if they do not know where these bodies were buried.
:03:16. > :03:21.What do we do? How do we react to this? We react appropriately, we do
:03:22. > :03:30.not eulogise him, we reflect on his heinous crimes and bats try and move
:03:31. > :03:37.forward. You covered the trial. I went as a journalist of the North
:03:38. > :03:46.West just after the trial. Which is inked on the memories of so many
:03:47. > :03:49.people. From Madeira, -- from that era. I then covered it and
:03:50. > :03:59.interviewed Keith Bennett 's mother, who you mentioned. It is hard to
:04:00. > :04:05.convey to people the awfulness of the feelings that everybody had at
:04:06. > :04:09.that time. The impact on hardened police officers, let alone the jury
:04:10. > :04:14.who heard those awful things at that trial. Let alone journalists, as
:04:15. > :04:20.well, hardened journalists who had never heard things as awful as they
:04:21. > :04:26.heard in that courtroom. The people you feel sorry for though, are of
:04:27. > :04:32.course the relatives who will never, now, presumably, no. I always think,
:04:33. > :04:37.the only thing that is never quite clear, is whether Hindley and Brady
:04:38. > :04:46.did actually know where specifically where, the bodies were buried. But,
:04:47. > :04:51.if they did, it was even more horrendous. For most people, it is
:04:52. > :04:55.impossible to understand the level of evil, and the word monster is
:04:56. > :05:02.frankly the right one. I think we have an image of the front page of
:05:03. > :05:08.The Times. Sorry, we already showed that in the intro. Just showing a
:05:09. > :05:15.picture there. Ian Brady, who has died. We are going to move on now
:05:16. > :05:21.actually to the Financial Times. The hacking story, cyber attack, hackers
:05:22. > :05:24.have second US weapon primed for attack, according to analysts.
:05:25. > :05:28.Everyone expected a spike on the weekend following Friday's attack
:05:29. > :05:34.but that did not happen. Do you know, my worry is that we are being
:05:35. > :05:37.let down by government, be they British governments, certainly
:05:38. > :05:42.questions have to be asked on the American government. And indeed of
:05:43. > :05:46.the Russians in all this. If the extents of hacking is what it
:05:47. > :05:54.appears to be, of course, it is horrendous what has been going on to
:05:55. > :06:02.the NHS and elements of the NHS. People with heart problems, stroke
:06:03. > :06:09.victims, have had to be moved elsewhere this very weekend. This is
:06:10. > :06:13.the extent of it. Is it... I mean, I have occasionally been sympathetic
:06:14. > :06:17.to Jeremy Hunt in this studio in the past, but the problem he has got is
:06:18. > :06:23.this has happened on his watch. He will now have to answer on behalf of
:06:24. > :06:28.the health service for what has been going on. It does seem bizarre, we
:06:29. > :06:31.all get the messages on our computer saying you need to update your
:06:32. > :06:37.software. Download this and it will happen overnight. Stuff is left not
:06:38. > :06:40.quite working when you get at the next day, but you work through it
:06:41. > :06:46.and get it sorted. It's hard to believe that is all a lot of these
:06:47. > :06:49.trusts had to do to stop this? It's incredible. But then we have just
:06:50. > :06:52.been through the winter crisis. We probably have a lot of people in
:06:53. > :06:56.hospitals with other priorities. I know Amber Rudd was saying over the
:06:57. > :07:00.weekend, we told just to do this and we set money aside. It comes against
:07:01. > :07:06.a backdrop of catastrophic IT failures by NHS. Only a few years
:07:07. > :07:10.ago they scrapped that scheme to digitise everything that cost the
:07:11. > :07:14.taxpayer ?10 billion. It seems that anything they touch with regards to
:07:15. > :07:18.IT turns to rot. Equally I think people are quite sympathetic with
:07:19. > :07:21.the actual front line staff that had to deal with this, and also probably
:07:22. > :07:24.people look at their own behaviour with their own cyber security
:07:25. > :07:31.reflect that actually will probably not all as digital gent as we could
:07:32. > :07:37.be. But we run NHS trusts. -- not as diligent as we could be. Some of
:07:38. > :07:42.these trusts apparently, I was talking to a cyber expert tonight,
:07:43. > :07:47.they have been encouraged to update their systems for several years also
:07:48. > :07:51.have refused to do so because they are used to the system may have and
:07:52. > :07:55.it works for them. This is the point. If governments
:07:56. > :08:02.are not telling the these trusts the risks that they are running. Let me
:08:03. > :08:06.declare an interest right away. I have had my e-mail account hacked in
:08:07. > :08:14.recent weeks. I have discovered e-mails have been sent to certain of
:08:15. > :08:18.my contacts, and friends, asking invoices which appeared to come from
:08:19. > :08:24.my e-mail accounts and which when you actually look closely, come from
:08:25. > :08:29.Poland and Malaysia for example. The truth of the matter is, I should be
:08:30. > :08:36.changing my passwords and all the rest of it, much more regularly than
:08:37. > :08:41.I am, I assume. We all should be. Then somebody has to tell us this.
:08:42. > :08:47.Tell us it's deadly serious, chaps. Also why isn't this system is
:08:48. > :08:52.standardised across all systems? We talk about 500 different types of
:08:53. > :08:56.surgery gloves. Why are some places using Windows XP, and I heard
:08:57. > :09:02.elsewhere, lotus notes? That's a messaging service that is 20 years
:09:03. > :09:05.old. You stick with what you know. This is originating in the American
:09:06. > :09:10.security operation, and that is a huge scandal. There is a bloke
:09:11. > :09:15.called Trump who should be concentrating perhaps a bit more on
:09:16. > :09:24.that. He has issues on his plate, don't worry about that. Camilla, the
:09:25. > :09:28.I. Tax grabs on the rich. The Labour manifesto out tomorrow, they have
:09:29. > :09:33.got to cost all this stuff? We are living in some sort of Groundhog
:09:34. > :09:41.Day. We heard all this last week when the manifesto was weak. Going
:09:42. > :09:45.back over it. But occur when the manifesto was leaked. Corbin saying
:09:46. > :09:49.anyone who owns over 80 grand in taxed. He has made all these
:09:50. > :09:55.pledges. He wants to scrap Jewish and fees, money back into the NHS.
:09:56. > :10:05.Everyone is vitally asking how to fund this. -- he wants to scrap
:10:06. > :10:10.tuition fees. Well, most people will not be taxed, according to him.
:10:11. > :10:16.Let's be fair. I am making this assumption based on the part of the
:10:17. > :10:21.manifesto that was not leaked were the costings. We await with baited
:10:22. > :10:26.breath. There was the assumption they had made at least 12 pledges on
:10:27. > :10:33.the back basis of the Corporation pledged tax. These things have to
:10:34. > :10:37.add up. An 80 billion price tag on Norman Smith. That has to come from
:10:38. > :10:40.somewhere and I would assume people's pockets in order to
:10:41. > :10:46.generate this revenue, borrowing admittedly, but also there must be
:10:47. > :10:50.tax hikes as the Telegraph has suggested. The top 5% of earners,
:10:51. > :10:56.big business, they can afford all that. This is what Labour is saying.
:10:57. > :11:02.Surely you are able to make that argument. The problem is, because
:11:03. > :11:05.the gap between rich and poor in our country under Tory, under Labour
:11:06. > :11:11.administrations, has hopelessly gotten wider. Having said that,
:11:12. > :11:14.there is unfortunately a real problem with the leader of the
:11:15. > :11:20.Labour Party. And you can talk to candidates of any colour on the
:11:21. > :11:27.doorstep, and if it is impossible for so many people to see the prime
:11:28. > :11:30.ministerial candidate of the Labour Party ever walking into number ten
:11:31. > :11:37.Downing St and kissing hands with the Queen and all that sort of
:11:38. > :11:42.thing, then whatever you propose... Biggest party in Europe? 4 million
:11:43. > :11:46.members? That's right, you can do that, you can appeal, but you can
:11:47. > :11:50.only win an election from a broad spectrum. If you cannot attract that
:11:51. > :11:57.broad spectrum, because your leader is not seen as a true potential
:11:58. > :12:02.Prime Minister, you have a problem. Front page of the Daily Telegraph,
:12:03. > :12:06.we will end on this. Labour plan to pull 1 million into top tax bracket.
:12:07. > :12:10.This is their spin, we know the Telegraph 's political leaning. Is
:12:11. > :12:19.this the Achilles' heel in a lot of these policies? 10,000 extra cost to
:12:20. > :12:22.copies on the beat. More money for the NHS. A lot of people agree with
:12:23. > :12:29.that. But the tax issue could be the thing that a lot of people say, you
:12:30. > :12:34.know what, I don't earn 80,000 but I want to, I don't want to be trapped.
:12:35. > :12:39.If its EU as anti-aspirational batsman thing, I think the
:12:40. > :12:42.corporation taxes damning than this personal tax. Purely on the basis
:12:43. > :12:46.that people understand the wealth creation and supporting businesses
:12:47. > :12:50.as we going to Brexit is crucial. Even the Institute of fixed school
:12:51. > :12:53.studies of the nation of increasing corporation tax at this time, when
:12:54. > :12:59.we are going through his negotiation under going to have to be firing on
:13:00. > :13:02.all business cylinders is silly. Equally I think voters are sadly now
:13:03. > :13:06.and they still have echoes of Gordon Brown flogging gold at the wrong
:13:07. > :13:11.price, and there is no money left. He didn't know the price is going to
:13:12. > :13:15.fall when he did so! Regardless, that's how the voters think. They
:13:16. > :13:21.look at Labour and think spend, spend. The look that Ed balls in the
:13:22. > :13:30.economy. I don't agree at all. I come back to the point they made,
:13:31. > :13:32.the Conservatives, yes the conservative press are successfully
:13:33. > :13:37.creating this as Theresa May or Corbin. It's going ahead and people
:13:38. > :13:45.do not see Jeremy Corbyn. Whatever the rights and wrongs of the tax
:13:46. > :13:50.rates, etc, by the way, some of us remember 1992 when Woodward talking
:13:51. > :13:55.about, was it ?22,000 Labour was going to have a higher tax rate? Now
:13:56. > :14:04.it's 80. Not many people on that. We will have to leave it there. Thanks
:14:05. > :14:07.for that. Thanks for looking at the stories. And to you for watching. I
:14:08. > :14:08.buy.