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:00:12. > :00:13.Hello, this is BBC News with Lukwesa Burak.

:00:14. > :00:16.We'll be taking a look at tomorrow morning's papers in a moment.

:00:17. > :00:21.First, the headlines: President Trump celebrates

:00:22. > :00:26.the signing of $350 billion worth of contracts between the US

:00:27. > :00:35.and Saudi Arabia, on day one of his visit to the region.

:00:36. > :00:37.Jeremy Corbyn insists his party is committed to Trident,

:00:38. > :00:41.after members of the Shadow Cabinet publicly disagree over the issue.

:00:42. > :00:43.The Tories defend their aim to cut net migration

:00:44. > :00:46.to "tens of thousands", after it comes under fire from

:00:47. > :00:53.Iran's newly re-elected president, Hassan Rouhani, says

:00:54. > :00:56.he will use his second term to reach out to the world and work

:00:57. > :01:04.The wedding has taken place of Pippa Middleton, the sister

:01:05. > :01:08.Prince George was one of the page boys, while his sister

:01:09. > :01:30.Hello, and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be

:01:31. > :01:33.With me are Nigel Nelson, Political Editor of the Sunday

:01:34. > :01:41.And the political commentator Jo Phillips.

:01:42. > :01:48.Very good evening to both of you. Really looking forward to our chat.

:01:49. > :01:50.First of all, tomorrow's front pages. Starting with the Telegraph,

:01:51. > :01:55.I believe. Theresa May writes in

:01:56. > :01:57.the the Sunday Telegraph that she'll tell Brussels that "money paid

:01:58. > :02:00.in the past" by the UK must be taken into account

:02:01. > :02:02.in the final divorce bill. The Sunday Times reports a Tory

:02:03. > :02:05.wobble in the opinion polls, as cuts for elderly people slash

:02:06. > :02:10.Theresa May's lead. It puts the Tories on 44%,

:02:11. > :02:12.with Labour on 35%. The Observer reports that

:02:13. > :02:14.Theresa May's school meals plan "to hit 900,000 poor children",

:02:15. > :02:17.and there are concerns it could "The Dementia Tax Backlash"

:02:18. > :02:22.is the Mail on Sunday's headline, as the paper reports a Survation

:02:23. > :02:25.poll suggesting the Tories' lead has slipped by 5% after its pledge

:02:26. > :02:31.to make elederly people pay for care - but they're still

:02:32. > :02:33.12% ahead of Labour. Mummy Kate takes charge

:02:34. > :02:41.on Pippa's big day", the picture headline

:02:42. > :02:42.on the Sunday Express, is about Duchess of

:02:43. > :02:57.Cambridge's sister's wedding. It is a lovely picture. We will come

:02:58. > :03:03.to that later. Let's begin. Nigel and Jo, who is going to lead? Ladies

:03:04. > :03:10.first! That Sarries we do Pugh! I'm going to get into trouble! I will

:03:11. > :03:14.just sit back and! The Sunday Telegraph, as you were referring to

:03:15. > :03:19.just now, this is an interview with Theresa May. And I have to say, they

:03:20. > :03:24.have picked two bits that don't make it look like a very interesting

:03:25. > :03:29.interview. The headline is it lose your gong if you dishonour it, says

:03:30. > :03:34.PM. This is to raise a promising to crack down on people who have got

:03:35. > :03:39.honours like knighthoods and what have you -- Theresa May. The way it

:03:40. > :03:43.works at the moment is that if somebody is disgraced, I'm thinking

:03:44. > :03:46.of Fred Goodwin, from the Royal Bank of Scotland, or Anthony Blunt,

:03:47. > :03:50.people like that, it's all done behind closed doors. She wants a

:03:51. > :03:53.more transparent process where people can be stripped of their

:03:54. > :03:58.honours if they fall below the expected standard. I have to say, I

:03:59. > :04:02.can't imagine that this is right at the forefront of people's minds as

:04:03. > :04:10.we go into an election. Or what it means. If you strip someone of their

:04:11. > :04:13.honour, does it matter if it is behind closed doors were out in the

:04:14. > :04:18.open? Frankly, a lot of people are honoured, political stooges. There

:04:19. > :04:24.are other problems as we head into the election. That, which is Brexit,

:04:25. > :04:27.is at the bottom of the page in a very small story. Theresa May is

:04:28. > :04:33.saying that money paid in the past must be taken into consideration.

:04:34. > :04:37.She talks about the European investment bank and the investment

:04:38. > :04:43.fund. It wouldn't make me rush out and buy a paper! No, it's very dull!

:04:44. > :04:47.Moving on... Good blogger at! I've got the interesting story! It is

:04:48. > :04:52.still Theresa May. But a very different angle. This is the front

:04:53. > :04:57.page of The Times. Yes, indeed. The Sunday Times have a poll taken since

:04:58. > :05:01.the Tory manifesto came out. What they are saying is that there is

:05:02. > :05:08.now, this is sort of War Ball weekend for the Tories. On the poll,

:05:09. > :05:13.the Tories are now on 44%, Labour on 35 -- a wobble weekend for the

:05:14. > :05:19.Tories. Eight just so Mike -- just a 9-point lead for the Tories. The

:05:20. > :05:24.Conservatives are down from an 18 point lead in just one week. It is

:05:25. > :05:29.all down to what came out through the manifesto. It is all down to the

:05:30. > :05:36.dementia tax, to taking away winter fuel allowance. When it comes to,

:05:37. > :05:39.it's interesting, it was during the manifesto launched watch Theresa

:05:40. > :05:44.May. She is so confident of winning this election, she felt she could do

:05:45. > :05:50.something that was bound to lose her votes. And her biggest vote is in

:05:51. > :05:55.the over-65s age group. They are the ones who go out and vote. She was

:05:56. > :06:02.hoping to pick up the under 35 is by doing it on the basis that they tend

:06:03. > :06:06.to go Labour. I wonder if the under 35s now they have realised they are

:06:07. > :06:09.about to lose their inheritance if there are more dad gets ill and

:06:10. > :06:15.stays at home, whether this is actually going to backfire? Make

:06:16. > :06:19.them more engaged into the conversation as well. One would hope

:06:20. > :06:22.so. Jeremy Corbyn is popular with young people, it will be interesting

:06:23. > :06:27.to see how many of them actually turn out to vote. I mean, the poll,

:06:28. > :06:31.as Nigel says, puts Labour at its highest standing since the last

:06:32. > :06:36.general election. But it won't do the Tories any harm to have a wobble

:06:37. > :06:41.like this. It will make them think. The terrible thing is, actually, and

:06:42. > :06:47.as we go onto the next paper, which is exactly the big story of last was

:06:48. > :06:51.the social care and the Inheritance Tax. If you are going to look at

:06:52. > :06:55.trying to do something to solve the into generational difference where

:06:56. > :06:58.you've got young people, they are either riddled with student debt or

:06:59. > :07:01.they can't get on the housing ladder, and you've got wealthy,

:07:02. > :07:07.older people living in houses that are too big and getting all sorts of

:07:08. > :07:10.benefits. You've got a pension age raised, but that's not commencing

:07:11. > :07:19.with the aid that many people get benefits like free bus passes and

:07:20. > :07:22.stuff like that. -- the age that many it is bonkers and you have to

:07:23. > :07:25.tackle it somehow. But however you tackle it you will get a backlash.

:07:26. > :07:27.What it does do, and one of the figure the Sunday Times quotes is it

:07:28. > :07:32.would mean that Theresa May would have a majority of 46. Only one week

:07:33. > :07:36.ago we were looking at the three figure majority. You might have

:07:37. > :07:41.been! Polls were looking at a three figure majority. The more that comes

:07:42. > :07:46.down, it is better for the governance of Britain. A cake. It

:07:47. > :07:53.doesn't much in any other parties, interestingly. Yes, it does. Let's

:07:54. > :07:59.turn to the Mail. It is the dementia tax backlash is the headline. Again,

:08:00. > :08:07.carrying on with this. We have got the elderly, dementia, do you want

:08:08. > :08:12.to pick this up? It's very interesting, because this actually,

:08:13. > :08:15.the Mail and the Express are almost interchangeable. I find it rather

:08:16. > :08:23.offensive, actually, to call it a dementia tax. But, you know, this is

:08:24. > :08:27.the idea that people who need social care in their own homes who

:08:28. > :08:37.currently have to pay if they've got savings or income assets of over

:08:38. > :08:40.?24,000. This is now going to quadruple under the Tory manifesto

:08:41. > :08:46.plan, but it also takes into account the value of your house. But it is

:08:47. > :08:54.capped at ?100,000, that is the lowest level. That is the floor. It

:08:55. > :08:57.is a floor rather than a cap. But of course what that means is that

:08:58. > :09:01.people will still have to sell their property in order to pay for their

:09:02. > :09:06.care. That ties in very nicely to the front of the Express. The front

:09:07. > :09:10.page really, it is just headlined at the very top, it is a front page

:09:11. > :09:14.that we will becoming too. The headline we will be talking about

:09:15. > :09:18.here is Labour's death tax bombshell. Interestingly, I was

:09:19. > :09:26.listening to Radio 4 on my drive to work. It was Any Answers. Some of

:09:27. > :09:31.the feedback that was coming from the Tory manifesto, in particular

:09:32. > :09:35.things like, you know, losing some of the benefits, they were saying,

:09:36. > :09:40.it is the embarrassment of having to go through a lot of these. You know,

:09:41. > :09:44.the means testing. It is undignified, yes. Yes, and

:09:45. > :09:48.dignified, and talking to the young and a lot of parents now saying, you

:09:49. > :09:51.know, go out and build up the debt. Their fathers were saying, I know

:09:52. > :09:55.this sounds terrible to be telling them this, but what's the point of

:09:56. > :10:00.saving? It's all going to be stripped away from you. There is a

:10:01. > :10:04.lot of backlash. As you were saying, the potential to lose a lot of their

:10:05. > :10:08.core voters over this issue. That is why it is such an interesting thing

:10:09. > :10:13.to do. We don't have the details and we don't actually know who these

:10:14. > :10:18.various things are going to hit. But when... Sorry, are we doing the

:10:19. > :10:23.Express? We are just finishing off the Express. The interesting thing

:10:24. > :10:27.about this, this is an interview with Philip Hammond. He is attacking

:10:28. > :10:32.them the other way. He's going for the death tax, which is Labour's

:10:33. > :10:41.plans to halve the out of Inheritance Tax exemption from more

:10:42. > :10:46.than ?800,000, ?850,000, to ?425,000. He says that homes owned

:10:47. > :10:49.by people who've worked hard all of their lives, they've saved and

:10:50. > :10:53.struggled, put something by, they are going to be punished by this

:10:54. > :10:56.tax. Well, actually you could make exactly the same argument for the

:10:57. > :11:02.dementia tax that you don't like to call it. People will lose their

:11:03. > :11:07.homes if they have to go in... If they are to stay at home and receive

:11:08. > :11:12.nonresidential care, in the same way that they would under Labour. It is

:11:13. > :11:16.a curious argument. It is also about the skewed property market, that is

:11:17. > :11:19.part of the problem. There is a point that outside of the bubble of

:11:20. > :11:25.London, you know, where house prices are absolutely ridiculous, you would

:11:26. > :11:29.end up with about 60% of houses in London being, you know, within the

:11:30. > :11:33.bracket. But that wouldn't necessarily be the same outside. But

:11:34. > :11:40.the tax on both from either side or exactly the same. Let's move on

:11:41. > :11:49.quickly to Mr Trump in Saudi Arabia. Back to the Sunday Telegraph, going

:11:50. > :11:53.back to the first page. And what is Trump telling the Saudis? What have

:11:54. > :11:59.you made of the pictures, the pomp, the ceremony was blocked by our

:12:00. > :12:02.terribly pleased to have him! I expect they are secretly hoping that

:12:03. > :12:06.Barack Obama is watching and thinking, well, they didn't do that

:12:07. > :12:10.for me! It does put those of us who are older to remember but people

:12:11. > :12:15.will know about it anyway, the Shah of Iran, who did the fantastic party

:12:16. > :12:20.in the desert with peacocks and palm trees. Donald Trump would have liked

:12:21. > :12:23.that! Exactly, but it was the beginning of his end, actually, that

:12:24. > :12:30.great grandiose waste of money. I'm not saying it is the end of the

:12:31. > :12:32.Saudis, that is a different thing. Donald Trump is probably very glad

:12:33. > :12:35.to be away from home. Although the shadows will cast further... They

:12:36. > :12:40.are saying there is a lot of concern, isn't there, that he had

:12:41. > :12:48.derided, make disparaging comments about Islam. They are now saying,

:12:49. > :12:52.you know what, for the case of expediency we are going to have to

:12:53. > :12:57.work with him anyway. And a lot of people also saying they are tapping

:12:58. > :13:00.into his love of the larger life. One of the things that he will have

:13:01. > :13:04.to do tomorrow when he makes his speech is somehow got back it has

:13:05. > :13:09.got to be a really skilful speech. What he's got to do is to obviously

:13:10. > :13:20.move the Muslims in Saudi Arabia, get them onside as far as -- woo by

:13:21. > :13:25.Muslims. He has to explain why he tried to ban them from America in

:13:26. > :13:29.the first play. It is a tricky speech, that one. He's going to have

:13:30. > :13:33.to be a politician, isn't he? Smart I wonder who is going to write it

:13:34. > :13:43.for him?! We have to squeeze the next two in. The Chibok girls are

:13:44. > :13:48.reunited with their parents. This story has been running all day. It

:13:49. > :13:55.is astonishing that these girls, who were kidnapped three years ago, some

:13:56. > :13:58.have been returned. And this is the next 82 children. They were reunited

:13:59. > :14:05.with their families, who have travelled the days. They had to go

:14:06. > :14:09.to Abuja, didn't they? To go and meet them. You would have a heart of

:14:10. > :14:12.stone not to be moved by this. It would be very interesting, what a

:14:13. > :14:16.nerve kept them going, the hope that they would finally be reunited. --

:14:17. > :14:22.what an earth kept them going. Obviously they are very emotional.

:14:23. > :14:27.There are still 100 girls with Boko Haram at the moment. What it does

:14:28. > :14:30.show is deals can be done. They swapped five militants for the

:14:31. > :14:34.girls. One would hope the other goals will come out as well. There

:14:35. > :14:42.has been much learned about the deals. The Sunday Express. I think

:14:43. > :14:50.this is the picture, isn't it? I love this picture. This did make me

:14:51. > :14:55.smile. Nigel, your softer side! Oh, yes, my softer side! How long have

:14:56. > :15:01.you got?! I thought the papers rather over did the wedding. Don't

:15:02. > :15:06.be ridiculous! It was a lovely wedding but it seemed a bit

:15:07. > :15:10.overdone. For the Sunday Express! They have got page after page... It

:15:11. > :15:13.is a nice picture. There was a lot of trouble getting pictures today

:15:14. > :15:18.for the journalists. Coming back with things like this, they are

:15:19. > :15:21.lovely, I agree. I think this is a smashing thing. Anyone who has had

:15:22. > :15:25.to look after small children at a wedding or a party or a day out, you

:15:26. > :15:35.know that thing of turning round to them and saying, shhh. It is lovely

:15:36. > :15:40.to see her performing the role of sister, the roles are reversed. It

:15:41. > :15:45.is wonderful. Anyway, Nigel and Jo, we will leave it there for now. But

:15:46. > :15:46.you are coming back at just gone 11:30pm. For now, that is it from

:15:47. > :15:51.the papers.