:00:15. > :00:17.Hello, and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be
:00:18. > :00:21.With me are Paul Johnson, Deputy Editor of the Guardian
:00:22. > :00:29.And Director of Bell Pottinger, Tim Collins.
:00:30. > :00:33.Good to see you both. Let's have a look at some of the front pages.
:00:34. > :00:35.Tomorrow's front pages, starting with...
:00:36. > :00:36.The Financial Times leads with the undisputed
:00:37. > :00:38.political story of the day - the Conservatives'
:00:39. > :00:41.It says it's "rattled" the Tory campaign.
:00:42. > :00:45.It reports there's confusion about exactly what the new social
:00:46. > :00:55.It calls it "May's manifesto meltdown".
:00:56. > :00:57.Pensioners will pay for the new policy,
:00:58. > :00:59.according to the Times, but it reports that Tory sources say
:01:00. > :01:01.it won't require tax rises or spending cuts.
:01:02. > :01:04.The Metro says that the Prime Minister has denied accusations that
:01:05. > :01:16.she's not so much "strong and stable" as "weak and wobbly".
:01:17. > :01:25.The Mirror asks, how can we ever trust Mrs U-turn? A different lead
:01:26. > :01:27.investigation reveals vulnerable investigation reveals vulnerable
:01:28. > :01:29.teenagers have been exposed to pornography through Facebook.
:01:30. > :01:31.A rather topical front page from the Express,
:01:32. > :01:33.although it's not actually about the so-called dementia tax.
:01:34. > :01:36.It says scientists have found dementia runs in the family.
:01:37. > :01:47.Tim, I'm going to start with you. Theresa May, strong and stable all
:01:48. > :01:53.week and wobbly, like jelly on a plate, so goes the nursery rhyme!
:01:54. > :01:57.This plays against the very thing that she was trying to put forward
:01:58. > :02:01.in this campaign, it's all about leadership, that it's about a strong
:02:02. > :02:06.negotiating hand, that you want Boadicea leading us into these
:02:07. > :02:11.Brexit talks. Jolyon a plate, according to the Metro? -- jelly on
:02:12. > :02:14.a plate. Brexit more than anything else was about politicians not
:02:15. > :02:18.listening. For decades they wouldn't listen to what the public was saying
:02:19. > :02:24.about emigration and power is going to Brussels. We do have a prominence
:02:25. > :02:28.to now who clearly has listened. -- we do have a Prime Minister. The
:02:29. > :02:32.reaction of particularly Tory leaning voters on the doorstep was
:02:33. > :02:36.very negative to this, and she has listened. The thing about the U-turn
:02:37. > :02:39.bit, that element of the policy that is new today actually takes us
:02:40. > :02:43.straight back to David Cameron's policy and what was the Goverment's
:02:44. > :02:48.policy until a week ago, that there should be a cap. It's not as if she
:02:49. > :02:52.has plucked an idea out of nowhere. That used to be a Tory Party policy,
:02:53. > :02:57.I thought about it further and we will go back to it. Paul, it was
:02:58. > :03:02.clear what Tory cause was under David Cameron last week. In fact,
:03:03. > :03:06.Quadri days ago -- what Tory policy was. She decided to pass it out and
:03:07. > :03:10.now she has brought it back in again. I was looking forward to see
:03:11. > :03:14.how Tim would spin his way out of that one! This is a complete
:03:15. > :03:17.shambles. The first time in history that a manifesto promise has been
:03:18. > :03:21.broken even before the election. It's just been a day of complete
:03:22. > :03:27.confusion. You've had a very angry Prime Minister, ministers running
:03:28. > :03:30.away from BBC TV cameras shown on screen. You had anger, blame gaming,
:03:31. > :03:35.you've had finger-pointing, the whole thing. It is a meltdown. It's
:03:36. > :03:39.being called meltdown Monday. This is not a rational act, it was forced
:03:40. > :03:47.upon Theresa May on the Government. Tim, come on, the front page of the
:03:48. > :03:50.Telegraph, chaos. The fact is, there were people within her own party,
:03:51. > :03:55.people within the Cabinet to thought it was a bad idea. Is she just not
:03:56. > :03:58.listening to anyone? I do think one of the lesson that has come out of
:03:59. > :04:04.this is that we know, this is true with Tony Blair and probably with
:04:05. > :04:08.David Cameron, he had a very sort of gilded circle, it does seem that
:04:09. > :04:12.prime ministers of all parties are to you eager to just listen to a
:04:13. > :04:16.very few voices and they tend to govern much better when they listen
:04:17. > :04:19.to a wider Cabinet and consult a bit more. That is probably a lesson that
:04:20. > :04:25.needed to be learned by Mrs May, as it was learned by her predecessor. I
:04:26. > :04:29.suspect after this, she will... One thing that is good about her is that
:04:30. > :04:34.she does listen. She campaigned for a Mane and now she is carrying
:04:35. > :04:41.through Lees, but she listened,. I don't think she will make this
:04:42. > :04:44.mistake again. They get up this morning and say, Prime Minister,
:04:45. > :04:50.we've got to get rid of this, how do we get rid of the policy? What we
:04:51. > :04:55.do, Prime Minister, we ditched the policy, how do we explain that? We
:04:56. > :04:58.say that nothing has changed. But who do we blame? We can't blame
:04:59. > :05:02.Cabinet ministers or the head of policy at Downing Street, they had
:05:03. > :05:06.nothing to do with it. We will blame Jeremy Corbyn! How do we do that?
:05:07. > :05:10.Say it is fake news, that is how we get out of it. By the way, you have
:05:11. > :05:14.a half an hour slot in your diary this afternoon to explain all of
:05:15. > :05:21.this to Andrew Neil! I bet that went down well! It is a difficult day. Is
:05:22. > :05:26.it a mortal wound? No, the reality is we are going to come on later to
:05:27. > :05:32.the story about opinion polls. It is important but all of this in
:05:33. > :05:38.context. She remains further ahead even in the worst opinion polls that
:05:39. > :05:41.were above is a work published over the weekend than Margaret Thatcher
:05:42. > :05:46.was before her general election landslide, more than Tony Blair was
:05:47. > :05:50.in his worst poll before the 1997 landslide. The reality is, most
:05:51. > :05:54.general elections over the last 30 or 40 years, in fact, every general
:05:55. > :05:58.election, you have had the result in the end that you did in the middle.
:05:59. > :06:02.We get very excited about these things, but most rotors have made up
:06:03. > :06:07.their minds already. They decided that they prefer Mrs May to Mr
:06:08. > :06:11.Corbyn. This hasn't been a great day for her but it won't change
:06:12. > :06:15.anything. Left-leaning press, Paul, playing this. Your front page in the
:06:16. > :06:20.Guardian is doing so, the Daily Mirror as well. How can we ever
:06:21. > :06:24.trust Mrs U-turn? Not the most flattering picture of the Prime
:06:25. > :06:31.Minister. PM flip-flops again. The fact is, she still is, according to
:06:32. > :06:36.the polls, we ahead of the Labour Party. This has been a good day for
:06:37. > :06:39.them. -- we ahead. We seeing an element of hubris here on behalf of
:06:40. > :06:43.the Prime Minister, because she was so far ahead, we have the changes to
:06:44. > :06:50.getting rid of free school lunches we have means testing winter fuel
:06:51. > :06:56.payment, winter fuel allowance is. And we've now got this U-turn as a
:06:57. > :07:01.result of the belief that she could potentially scare her core vote.
:07:02. > :07:04.Yes, it is quite extraordinary. You could characterise this as callous
:07:05. > :07:08.or as complacent, you could characterise it as a trust issue.
:07:09. > :07:14.You could characterise it as the right thing to do! There is no doubt
:07:15. > :07:17.she did the right thing by introducing the future of social
:07:18. > :07:20.care into the rational conversation, there's no doubt something has to be
:07:21. > :07:26.done about intergenerational wealth. But to do it in this way was very,
:07:27. > :07:29.very or indeed. To say to a big ball of the country, to say to a big pull
:07:30. > :07:35.of your constituency -- you're going to have to pay, I'll tell you how
:07:36. > :07:38.much after the election. I understand why Tories like me or
:07:39. > :07:43.upset with the idea of undermining the principle of inheritance. What I
:07:44. > :07:45.genuinely don't understand is how socialists like John McDonnell or
:07:46. > :07:48.Jeremy Corbyn can say, we're going to fight for the right of
:07:49. > :07:52.multimillionaires in the south of England to hand over the entire
:07:53. > :07:54.value of their homes. We're going to fight to make sure that
:07:55. > :07:59.multimillionaires keep the winter fuel allowance is. Why is the left
:08:00. > :08:03.saying, we are keeping every privilege for the rich? I thought
:08:04. > :08:09.Jeremy Corbyn's allowance is that the system is rigged for the rich.
:08:10. > :08:16.It's mad! I think we are in argument about whether the rights or
:08:17. > :08:19.wrongs... The triple lock. The Conservative sums don't add up. In
:08:20. > :08:25.the Andrew Neil grilling we saw, tell us about taxes. I can't give
:08:26. > :08:28.you any promises. Tell us about the NHS and the extra ?8 billion. I
:08:29. > :08:32.can't tell you where it is coming from or whether it is new money or
:08:33. > :08:38.not. There two default position is that the primers has. Number one is
:08:39. > :08:42.evasion, number two is blame Corbyn. The most important sadistic she out
:08:43. > :08:46.with in that interview was she said, in the next ten years there will be
:08:47. > :08:50.2 million more people over the age of 75 needing care. We can't expect
:08:51. > :08:53.people in work to pay higher taxes because the tax burden is the
:08:54. > :08:58.highest it has been for 30 years. We can't borrow it because our or ring
:08:59. > :09:01.is far too high. Where do we get it? At least the Tories have some ideas
:09:02. > :09:06.about. Labour is the magic money tree and a free unicorn for
:09:07. > :09:15.everyone! If we had got to the Don Lock cap, it could have been costed.
:09:16. > :09:19.-- the Andrew Dilnot cap. Ministers yesterday was on... Gentlemen,
:09:20. > :09:25.please! I need a whistle or something! We are back to the cap,
:09:26. > :09:30.but we don't know what the cap is, the interesting debate, no limit has
:09:31. > :09:34.been set by the Conservatives so far. Paul, interesting, this poll.
:09:35. > :09:40.This is the Huffington Post suggesting that in Wales Labour are
:09:41. > :09:46.racing ahead with Welsh voters stop your yes, this is curious, this
:09:47. > :09:52.poll. They are talking about an extraordinary 16 points swing to
:09:53. > :09:56.Jeremy Corbyn's favour in Wales. Now, we've been here before with
:09:57. > :10:04.swings. We've been here before with poles. We are quite a way out from
:10:05. > :10:08.polling day. These figures are doubtless moving around, but they
:10:09. > :10:12.are only moving in one way. The Tory vote is staying basically steady, or
:10:13. > :10:18.so it seems. Labour seems to be inching up. And the other parties
:10:19. > :10:23.seem to be involved in a third-place play-off. Polls are just polls,
:10:24. > :10:26.that's it. Lets not forget, the polls called the referendum wrong,
:10:27. > :10:30.they called Trump from, they called the last general election wrong, I
:10:31. > :10:34.wouldn't get too excited. I know you are looking forward to the great
:10:35. > :10:37.socialist republic, but it ain't going to happen. You were talking
:10:38. > :10:43.only about how far ahead Theresa May was in the polls. If she is as far
:10:44. > :10:46.ahead as Mrs Thatcher was, it she didn't do very well either. Let's
:10:47. > :10:53.move on to the Financial Times, Trump at the wall. I hope we can get
:10:54. > :10:58.this picture on screen. Can you imagine from tweeting this out to
:10:59. > :11:02.say, number one he is made stopping a flood by holding back the waters!
:11:03. > :11:11.-- here is me. Number two, I told you I would build a wall! It is
:11:12. > :11:15.significant, though. It is significant and very interesting,
:11:16. > :11:20.the significance has been underwhelmed, it has got into
:11:21. > :11:23.difficulties. Because Trump, his approach to secrecy has been
:11:24. > :11:26.encapsulated in this visit. In a trip to talk to the Russians he
:11:27. > :11:31.talks about secret intelligence being passed on from Syria. He then
:11:32. > :11:35.gets other people to deny it. He then confirms it himself, and today
:11:36. > :11:40.he says in public, oh, but I'm never mentioned Israel, it wasn't me,
:11:41. > :11:45.honest. It's! It was an incredible clanger. One issue of substance. At
:11:46. > :11:50.the weekend he was in Saudi Arabia, he spoke at a conference of 40
:11:51. > :11:53.Islamic countries, all of whom are delighted that under him US foreign
:11:54. > :11:56.policy is going back to its traditional stance of backing the
:11:57. > :12:00.Saudi view of the Middle East rather than the Iranian view of the Middle
:12:01. > :12:03.East. Although that will be unpopular with some, he is amazingly
:12:04. > :12:13.popular in the Gulf states, because they feel that America is back being
:12:14. > :12:16.their friend against. The Times, apparently storms and tea on not
:12:17. > :12:22.going to be part of the break between cricket matches as people
:12:23. > :12:26.thought they would. When I saw this on page three I wondered why it
:12:27. > :12:30.wasn't on the front page! And act like this ripping apart the very
:12:31. > :12:35.fabric of society, this has got to be another thing that Jeremy Corbyn
:12:36. > :12:38.has come up with! But it isn't. There is a reason it is the bottom
:12:39. > :12:44.of page three, it is talking about doing away with cucumber Sam Wood
:12:45. > :12:50.is, but it comes from Tony Oxley of fear of Cricket club. -- cucumber
:12:51. > :12:55.sandwiches. -- fare Roque Cricket club. If it was the Test matches, it
:12:56. > :12:59.would be the most important story of the day. I wonder why the Theresa
:13:00. > :13:03.May to boggle is not on the front of the Daily Mail. -- De Bock all.
:13:04. > :13:08.Don't forget, you can see the front pages of the papers online
:13:09. > :13:12.It's all there for you, seven days a week, at bbc.co.uk/papers.
:13:13. > :13:15.And if you miss the programme any evening, you can watch it