:00:00. > :00:14.Now on BBC News, here's Julian with The Papers.
:00:15. > :00:18.at what the papers are saying this Sunday morning.
:00:19. > :00:21.With me are journalist and broadcaster Shyama Perera
:00:22. > :00:26.and the political editor for the Sun, Dave Wooding.
:00:27. > :00:30.This morning's front pages, starting with the Observer.
:00:31. > :00:33.It leads with expert calls for the Government to keep
:00:34. > :00:38.co-operating with the EU on security and intelligence after Brexit.
:00:39. > :00:41.The Sunday Express talked to Theresa May about her meeting
:00:42. > :00:46.with some of the victims of the Manchester attack
:00:47. > :00:49.Like many Sunday papers, the Mail on Sunday
:00:50. > :00:53.carries a CCTV image showing the Manchester bomber, Salman Abedi,
:00:54. > :00:59.The UK's Security Minister has told the Sunday Telegraph
:01:00. > :01:01.that social-media firms are not doing enough to tackle extremism.
:01:02. > :01:03.And the Sunday Times talks about the Conservative Party
:01:04. > :01:12.after Labour narrows the gap in the polls to the single figures.
:01:13. > :01:19.We will dip into some of those in the neck 15 minutes or so, the Mail
:01:20. > :01:23.on Sunday, Shyama, this is a chilling image of Salman Abedi.
:01:24. > :01:27.Well, it is and it isn't, Julian, and what is remarkable about these
:01:28. > :01:35.images is abnormal this young man looks. I wouldn't look at him once,
:01:36. > :01:41.let alone twice. -- is how normal this young man looks. I just wonder
:01:42. > :01:46.about using terms like the face of evil, the action was evil - when you
:01:47. > :01:51.use terms like that, people start looking for people who look evil,
:01:52. > :01:57.and the whole point about terrorist is that they look like you and me.
:01:58. > :02:00.We need to change the language so we can all start understanding what we
:02:01. > :02:03.should be looking for, rather than constantly looking for someone who
:02:04. > :02:10.looks like they are up to no good, because that is not how they look. I
:02:11. > :02:13.suppose I use the word chilling because we know what is going to
:02:14. > :02:23.happen with the benefit of hindsight. It is a striking picture,
:02:24. > :02:29.and like Shyama says, the normal sign of him, the body warmer, the
:02:30. > :02:35.baseball cap, Nike trainers which I gather sell for about ?300, that
:02:36. > :02:40.sort of thing. You can just say, over to the right of this picture,
:02:41. > :02:45.the only visible sign of the atrocity he was about to commit if
:02:46. > :02:55.the strap from the rucksack which contained, as we now know, the nuts
:02:56. > :03:00.and bolts. Police releasing the image because they want to get more
:03:01. > :03:05.information about what he was doing so they can find out more about
:03:06. > :03:09.others who may have been involved. Thank goodness for CCTV, some of the
:03:10. > :03:14.goodness it does in enabling them to piece together these events. The
:03:15. > :03:20.Sunday Telegraph, some quite strong language from the security minister.
:03:21. > :03:23.Yes, there have been lots of different aspects to the terror
:03:24. > :03:29.attack, people looking at things we can do to stop radicalisation, to
:03:30. > :03:37.track down potential killers, and basically to nip in the bud the root
:03:38. > :03:42.causes of radical extremism. The security minister, Ben Wallace,
:03:43. > :03:47.apologies, having a right go at the media firms, the likes of... He
:03:48. > :03:51.doesn't name them, but Facebook and Twitter, social media giants, saying
:03:52. > :03:56.they are duplicitous, saying that, you know, videos are radicalising
:03:57. > :04:03.writ in's youth, they are doing nothing to take these down. He uses
:04:04. > :04:07.phrases such as these companies flogging details about our lives to
:04:08. > :04:11.commercial companies, but they won't do anything about stopping these
:04:12. > :04:17.videos going up which are spreading hate and extremism. It is pretty
:04:18. > :04:20.strong language. I'm not sure what he's saying that underpins his
:04:21. > :04:24.allegations, because obviously things have to be posted before they
:04:25. > :04:28.can be removed, and as I understand it, a lot of these companies,
:04:29. > :04:32.including Facebook, have taken on greater numbers of staff to try and
:04:33. > :04:39.deal with it, but it is still humans who make those judgment goals, and
:04:40. > :04:42.therefore there is always going to be a slight delay. I would add to
:04:43. > :04:46.this and say, not only are the terrorist groups on social media,
:04:47. > :04:51.but we need, all of us, to find a way of toning down language and
:04:52. > :04:57.expressions of loathing and hatred on all forms of online discussion,
:04:58. > :05:01.including, in my opinion, you know, the Daily Mail comments, the
:05:02. > :05:05.Guardian comments. You look at those, sexist, violent, deeply
:05:06. > :05:11.unpleasant, and they may not be jihadi, but it is all part of a
:05:12. > :05:16.movement, it seems to me, that is predominantly male, predominantly
:05:17. > :05:20.aggressive, predominantly hostile, particularly actually, towards
:05:21. > :05:25.women, and you know, all of that underpins jihadism. Obviously, these
:05:26. > :05:28.are different, led by an ideology, but what I am saying is that hatred
:05:29. > :05:32.breeds hatred, and what we should all be doing is finding ways, a
:05:33. > :05:41.solution to minimise the expressions of hatred. The Observer front page,
:05:42. > :05:46.who wants to kick this off? Future relationships with the European
:05:47. > :05:50.Union, with particular reference to security once the Brexit stealers
:05:51. > :05:53.done. We have heard various explanations for terrorism, not
:05:54. > :05:58.excuses, but different things behind it, people have discussed cuts in
:05:59. > :06:02.policing, which Amber Rudd, the Home Secretary, has said is not an issue.
:06:03. > :06:08.Jeremy Corbyn as even discussed the foreign policy of Britain, again,
:06:09. > :06:12.challenged. What the Observer seems to be pointing to is Brexit,
:06:13. > :06:15.surprising that nobody has blamed Brexit, it gets blamed for
:06:16. > :06:20.everything else, but Dominic Grieve, the Tory chairman of the Commons
:06:21. > :06:25.intelligence and security committee, the former Chief Constable of
:06:26. > :06:29.Northern Ireland police service, Sir Hugh Orde, and the head of Europol
:06:30. > :06:33.have all said that we need to be within the EU to combat terrorism.
:06:34. > :06:38.Part of the problem of being members of Europol and the criminal
:06:39. > :06:40.intelligence agency across Europe is that you have to accept the
:06:41. > :06:44.jurisdiction of the European Court of Justice, and that is one of the
:06:45. > :06:50.three things that Britain is going to pull out of. Which could be part
:06:51. > :06:54.of the final deal, of course. For me, it makes me worried as a punter,
:06:55. > :06:59.because I think, do I trust any of the parties that are currently
:07:00. > :07:02.begging for my vote to be able to come up with such a sophisticated
:07:03. > :07:07.and well structured strategy that they can pull all this off while
:07:08. > :07:13.simultaneously removing us from the EU? I just can't see it. Staying
:07:14. > :07:18.with election matters, Shyama, the front of the Sunday Times, taking us
:07:19. > :07:20.back to the election campaign to an extent, with particular reference to
:07:21. > :07:25.the Conservative campaign, which they aren't bearing to never story
:07:26. > :07:32.is based on an opinion poll. I think they should be nervous, my straw
:07:33. > :07:37.polls locally in the Borough of Brent pointing to huge changes among
:07:38. > :07:44.people, myself included! We are a marginal constituency, hamsters and
:07:45. > :07:49.Kilburn, we hang by 1200 votes. You are doing the BBC thing of offering
:07:50. > :07:54.caution! Of course! I say this only slightly playfully, because I have
:07:55. > :07:59.talked to a cross-section of people, I think they are right to be
:08:00. > :08:02.nervous. I don't know of Lynton Crosby can turn things around in two
:08:03. > :08:06.or three weeks. Having said that, who would have said even a week ago
:08:07. > :08:13.that the Tories would suddenly lose that extraordinary leader that they
:08:14. > :08:17.had? Anything is possible, suddenly the election has become exciting. If
:08:18. > :08:22.there is a relaunch, what would it look like? Well, I suspect that
:08:23. > :08:27.similar things that are being spoken about so far are not having any
:08:28. > :08:35.cut-through. Attacking Jeremy Corbyn on the IRA links is not working, we
:08:36. > :08:39.have a poll in the Sun on Sunday showing that most people are not
:08:40. > :08:44.bothered by it, people think he is a statesman or a dangerous man. So I
:08:45. > :08:49.think the Conservatives will move on to talking about where they poll
:08:50. > :08:59.backs, Brexit, 70% of people put that as their top issue. I think, as
:09:00. > :09:04.we move into the final stages, 11 days today until polling day, it
:09:05. > :09:08.will be Brexit versus NHS, that is my own feeling on it, and it says
:09:09. > :09:13.here, after the terrorism of the last week, there has been such a big
:09:14. > :09:18.paws, it is almost like the whole campaign is starting all over again.
:09:19. > :09:22.That was bound to lead all the parties to reflect on security
:09:23. > :09:26.matters for a while, wasn't it? But inevitably, and some point, they
:09:27. > :09:31.will go back to where they were. Absolutely, as per the story in the
:09:32. > :09:34.Observer, they will have to rethink how they are positing Brexit in the
:09:35. > :09:39.next couple of weeks, because that is vital to everything, including
:09:40. > :09:50.the NHS. The Sunday Mirror reports on the BA chaos, an extraordinary
:09:51. > :09:52.image of hundreds of suitcases. I was reflecting this morning, when we
:09:53. > :09:57.first in the newspaper industry moved over to computers, those of us
:09:58. > :10:01.who moved from typewriters on Friday and started on a computer on Monday
:10:02. > :10:05.morning, we were a little bit nervous and kept everything backed
:10:06. > :10:13.up, so we printed things out, typed them up, printed them... Some of us
:10:14. > :10:15.still do! As we got more used to computers, they have taken over our
:10:16. > :10:21.lives, and we don't have any back-up now. As we have seen, while they are
:10:22. > :10:25.wonderful and speed things up, when they go wrong, this is what happens.
:10:26. > :10:30.Of course, I wonder if BA have a way of printing out the old tickets!
:10:31. > :10:34.Even if they have, they don't know where the planes are, because it has
:10:35. > :10:40.also affected their call centres, all their information systems. I
:10:41. > :10:45.think, you know, coming two weeks after the NHS hacked, it is not a
:10:46. > :10:50.hack, just a breakdown, but what we are starting to see, actually, is
:10:51. > :10:56.how automation and technical failure can affect our well-being. I have to
:10:57. > :10:59.say, I am stocked up on bottles of water and ours theirs in case the
:11:00. > :11:10.National Grid goes down! It just seems to me that there is a climate
:11:11. > :11:14.of holes in people's systems. It does mean that the war on cyber
:11:15. > :11:18.security is very important, this is just a small element of the sort of
:11:19. > :11:23.thing that could happen. And the wider implications are, as the
:11:24. > :11:25.Mirror says, there will be a huge compensation bill, with people
:11:26. > :11:30.claiming presumably not just for the loss of that particular flight, but
:11:31. > :11:34.the knock-on effects, holidays that may have been lost, as you say,
:11:35. > :11:40.hotels overnight, and there is a reputation issue as well.
:11:41. > :11:45.Absolutely. People who have flown... I had a colleague who was flying to
:11:46. > :11:47.a wedding yesterday evening, and he booked on a budget airline which was
:11:48. > :11:51.cheaper than British Airways, and he was saying, thank goodness I booked
:11:52. > :11:58.with a cheaper airline. It just goes to show, you know, you can pay more
:11:59. > :12:02.and get less. It is because there is a residual problem today, and that
:12:03. > :12:05.is going to carry on for a couple of weeks. If it could have been put
:12:06. > :12:10.right within 24 hours, we might have been able to look past it, but it
:12:11. > :12:14.will be ruining after right across the week, and so this story will run
:12:15. > :12:23.and run, and that is where the real damage will be done. A one off, we
:12:24. > :12:26.could forgive or overlooked. We have got and a half left, so I am turning
:12:27. > :12:29.slightly nervously to page 21 of the Mail on Sunday, who wants to kick
:12:30. > :12:35.off what people should wear when reading the news on BBC?! I think
:12:36. > :12:39.you are safe, Julian, you are not wearing any M, or if you are, it
:12:40. > :12:44.is not immediately apparent! According to the Mail on Sunday, BBC
:12:45. > :12:50.presenters like that have been told not to wear M type clothing, and
:12:51. > :12:59.to wear block colours, to generally look tidy. And you pointed at me! I
:13:00. > :13:06.said your suit was beautiful! It says no trainers or leather or mock
:13:07. > :13:11.leather, no genes or shorts. We can't see and the table, Julian, but
:13:12. > :13:14.I can assure the view is that you are not wearing shorts! In the old
:13:15. > :13:19.days, I can remember doing the night-time newspaper review in the
:13:20. > :13:25.old building... Trade secrets coming out now! I can remember Peter Dobbie
:13:26. > :13:29.looking so fantastic, and I looked underneath the desk, and he was in a
:13:30. > :13:33.filthy pair of jeans and scuffed trainers, and I couldn't believe it!
:13:34. > :13:37.Peter Dobbie is not available for comment, I should point out! Those
:13:38. > :13:41.are the days when we never had to stand up. Whereas now they are
:13:42. > :13:48.swinging around and looking at you from all angles. The Prime Minister
:13:49. > :13:54.will not be here in a ?900 trousers! I suppose we should not distract, is
:13:55. > :13:58.that the point? Yes, and I agree what they say about hair, long hair
:13:59. > :14:06.is distracting, it should be tied back. You know, bright ties can be
:14:07. > :14:11.distracting, we want a newsreader to almost be... Careful! You are both
:14:12. > :14:14.things, Julian, highly sophisticated and trustworthy! But really you want
:14:15. > :14:20.to hear their voice, you don't want to be looking at them and
:14:21. > :14:24.thinking... Look, he is glowing! You can both come back again! When I
:14:25. > :14:29.first did TV, somebody said, don't worry what you say, they will just
:14:30. > :14:36.trying to hold my stomached in, and trying to hold my stomached in, and
:14:37. > :14:38.it paid working! On that uplifting sartorial note, thank you to Shyama
:14:39. > :14:39.and David. Just a reminder, we take a look
:14:40. > :14:42.at tomorrow's front pages every It's been a fairly quiet
:14:43. > :14:53.weather morning across the UK. However, we are
:14:54. > :14:56.expecting some changes. Now, there will be some dry weather
:14:57. > :14:59.and some sunshine for most of us. However, storms are just waiting
:15:00. > :15:02.in the wings to head our way, and this is one part of the UK
:15:03. > :15:06.that will see some changes