28/05/2017

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:00:09. > :00:13.We'll be taking a look at tomorrow morning's papers in a moment.

:00:14. > :00:20.Police investigating the suicide bombing in Manchester on Monday have

:00:21. > :00:26.The Conservatives and Labour promise more action to minimise the threat

:00:27. > :00:30.of terror attacks in the wake of the Manchester bombing.

:00:31. > :00:33.Thousands of British Airways passengers have faced a second day

:00:34. > :00:35.of delays and disruption following the massive computer

:00:36. > :00:42.failure which grounded all BA planes at Heathrow and Gatwick yesterday.

:00:43. > :00:47.We've tried desperately to contact BA by email, by phone,

:00:48. > :00:50.on their website and also trying to find ground staff,

:00:51. > :00:54.and we haven't seen anybody on the ground at all.

:00:55. > :00:58.Landslides and floods in Sri Lanka have killed at least 150 people

:00:59. > :01:01.and the country faces the risk of more mudslides as

:01:02. > :01:19.Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be

:01:20. > :01:22.With me are John Rentoul, chief political commentator

:01:23. > :01:29.at the Independent, and Ruth Lea, economic adviser at

:01:30. > :01:38.The Financial Times leads on the IT chaos causing

:01:39. > :01:41.misery for BA customers, but carries a photo of a rather

:01:42. > :01:53.happier-looking German Chancellor at a campaign event.

:01:54. > :01:59.The male report claims of a moronic cover-up over cutting costs on

:02:00. > :02:05.computer systems. The election campaign is the main

:02:06. > :02:07.story for the Telegraph. It claims that Jeremy Corbyn has

:02:08. > :02:10.been denounced by members of his own party after attending

:02:11. > :02:18.a ceremony in honour of a terrorist. A key legal power has been used only

:02:19. > :02:23.once to control British jihadists, say the times.

:02:24. > :02:26.The Mirror has a full-page photo of some of the 40,000

:02:27. > :02:28.people who took part in the Great Manchester Run.

:02:29. > :02:30.The paper calls it a "defiant act of solidarity".

:02:31. > :02:32.A terror warning is the top story for the Express.

:02:33. > :02:35.It reports fears that Libya has become a breeding ground

:02:36. > :02:47.British Airways, the photograph says it all, a female passenger looking

:02:48. > :02:55.absolutely exhausted and desperate, sitting on a trolley with her bags.

:02:56. > :03:01.Here it is, camera three! The worst chaos I have ever seen, the quote

:03:02. > :03:07.from a pilot. Half term misery as disruption to continue for days.

:03:08. > :03:13.Very, very few BA staff seem to know what is going on or the Indy

:03:14. > :03:22.terminals explaining to passengers. It is a terrible story. This

:03:23. > :03:25.weekend, as half term starts, bank holiday weekend, the worst possible

:03:26. > :03:31.time, and it makes me worry about whether I have backed up my

:03:32. > :03:37.computer. You take these things for granted, you should computers will

:03:38. > :03:39.work, and when they don't, you ought to have back-up systems, and it

:03:40. > :03:45.looks as if cost-cutting means that they do not. It aims to have been a

:03:46. > :03:49.power failure which has brought the system is down, but the union were

:03:50. > :03:54.quick off the mark, they said, you outsourced a lot of this to another

:03:55. > :03:58.country. That is what the Financial Times say, because of the

:03:59. > :04:03.cost-cutting, we do not know, but we are so dependent on the systems, if

:04:04. > :04:09.they go down, it is a tragedy. We only have to think about the

:04:10. > :04:16.ransomware virus, damaging the NHS. There does not seem to be adequate

:04:17. > :04:21.back-up, either in BA or in the NHS or anywhere else if something goes

:04:22. > :04:24.badly wrong. If it is a problem with cost-cutting, they are going to lose

:04:25. > :04:30.a lot of money. The Telegraph is suggesting that compensation

:04:31. > :04:32.payments could be ?50 million and loss of goodwill and loss of

:04:33. > :04:40.business could be another ?50 million. Some terrible statistics.

:04:41. > :04:49.The ineptitude staggers you. This is what comes across to us, passengers

:04:50. > :04:53.cannot get any information. The company does not by what has gone

:04:54. > :05:00.wrong. They are not sending anybody out. They have nothing to say,

:05:01. > :05:07.everything stops. It shows how dependent companies are. Even if

:05:08. > :05:12.everything stops, having people out there, surely, would be a sensible

:05:13. > :05:16.thing to do, offering people refreshments, accommodation, health,

:05:17. > :05:21.advice. They do not have the contingency plan. People complaining

:05:22. > :05:25.they did not have food or drink. The minimum you can do is keep people

:05:26. > :05:29.reasonably comfortable if they are going to be stuck in an airport

:05:30. > :05:34.lounge. They did not seem to have anything. The only common sense or

:05:35. > :05:41.comments that seem to be coming from the cabin crew. They have said, we

:05:42. > :05:45.are not doing -- going anywhere. They will have to start talking

:05:46. > :05:51.tomorrow or Tuesday, after the bank on. The Financial Times, Angela

:05:52. > :06:00.Merkel holding a large rear. She is in Munich, signalling that Germany

:06:01. > :06:03.and France will have to get closer together, because they cannot rely

:06:04. > :06:12.on Britain and America anymore. It is farcical. She says, we can no

:06:13. > :06:16.longer rely on the USA, because Donald Trump was less than polite to

:06:17. > :06:22.them in Brussels at the Nato meeting. He told them to pay up,

:06:23. > :06:28.because of the Nato members, only three or four meet the 2% of GDP

:06:29. > :06:34.target, one is the UK, Greece, France and the USA. Germany is way

:06:35. > :06:41.behind. She is one to talk. But the idea that the US or the UK will walk

:06:42. > :06:46.away from Nato is absurd. When it comes to the UK, Theresa May went

:06:47. > :06:50.out of her way when she invoked Article 50 to talk about security

:06:51. > :06:55.cooperation. She had said as Home Secretary being in the EU was

:06:56. > :07:03.important for security. She has done one or two U-turns. Joking apart,

:07:04. > :07:08.when she sent her a letter to Donald Tusk, she made a big issue about

:07:09. > :07:14.security. The UK will not walk away from the security agreement with the

:07:15. > :07:19.EU. I do not think she is a fan of Angela Merkel! Off the back of the

:07:20. > :07:23.G-7 summit, when they were trained to get people on the right page over

:07:24. > :07:27.climate change, the United States could remain isolated if they do not

:07:28. > :07:33.carry on with the Paris accord. The important thing, apart from the

:07:34. > :07:40.quantity of beer that Angela Merkel is trying to drink... Did she drink

:07:41. > :07:47.it all? Angela Merkel is running an election campaign, as Chancellor in

:07:48. > :07:52.Germany, and this kind of anti-American talk goes down quite

:07:53. > :07:58.well with the German electorate. That is the true story. It tells us

:07:59. > :08:05.her direction of travel. Where Germany will head if she is still

:08:06. > :08:09.Chancellor. The Brexit negotiations start in the middle of June, you see

:08:10. > :08:16.positioning going on in the EU, toughening up the talk. It is big

:08:17. > :08:19.talk. There is so much of that. They are politicians, that is the

:08:20. > :08:24.problem! What will we do without them? The daily Mirror, a fantastic

:08:25. > :08:30.picture, he streets of Manchester filled with tens of thousands of

:08:31. > :08:35.runners taking part in the great Manchester run, putting on a show of

:08:36. > :08:44.solidarity. Life will carry on as best we can. It makes you proud of

:08:45. > :08:47.Manchester. I don't live there, I have not lived there, but one of the

:08:48. > :08:54.striking things about the response to Monday's awful events is the way

:08:55. > :08:58.that Manchester has asserted its identity and sense of solidarity,

:08:59. > :09:03.and I have found it very moving. When people started sinking the

:09:04. > :09:12.oasis song at a memorial service, and this again, it is wonderful. I

:09:13. > :09:17.am very proud of them. I come from just south of Manchester, I can put

:09:18. > :09:24.a Manchester accent on, I can be right authentic! We must have known!

:09:25. > :09:28.I go back to my received pronunciation! I agree with

:09:29. > :09:33.everything John has said. The Mancunian people are the most

:09:34. > :09:37.wonderful people, they really warm. Out of this appalling tragedy, it

:09:38. > :09:43.seems as though you have seen the good side of nearly everybody in the

:09:44. > :09:47.community, whatever their religious persuasion. One of the most touching

:09:48. > :09:52.scenes was with a Muslim gentleman with an elderly Jewish lady, and

:09:53. > :09:58.they are very good friends. Part of a multi-faith forum. I thought, that

:09:59. > :10:03.is so right, and to see him there was so incredibly helpful. The

:10:04. > :10:06.spontaneous applause when the balloons were released in memory of

:10:07. > :10:11.one of the victims when her parents turned up to set them off in Saint

:10:12. > :10:16.Anne Square. Lots of little moments which have been extremely moving.

:10:17. > :10:25.More and more arrests today. A 25-year-old man, and more raids in

:10:26. > :10:30.different parts of Manchester. Obviously, still an investigation

:10:31. > :10:34.going on, which is why I thought it was a bit unfortunate that the

:10:35. > :10:42.politicians started arguing about the politics of it on Friday. I

:10:43. > :10:49.thought it was too early, I thought, leave the political arguments until

:10:50. > :10:54.this week. Campaigning was suspended for several days as a sign of

:10:55. > :11:01.respect. Let's look at The Times. Power to ban UK jihadis has been

:11:02. > :11:07.used just once. These are the temporary exclusion orders. They are

:11:08. > :11:11.to stop various people coming back into the country if they have been

:11:12. > :11:16.in various suspect countries. I am not a security expert, you have to

:11:17. > :11:21.be careful what you say, but perhaps the services have to tighten up

:11:22. > :11:25.big-time. It is not just about these orders, I would not be sorry to see

:11:26. > :11:29.the control orders brought back. They were introduced in 2005 and

:11:30. > :11:35.dropped in 2011 at the behest of Nick Clegg. They are essentially

:11:36. > :11:42.house arrest for people under suspicion. We have to take this

:11:43. > :11:46.terrorism seriously, no doubt, and if it infringes some freedom of

:11:47. > :11:53.movement, that is part of the balance of trying to get this right.

:11:54. > :11:59.This is symptomatic of the fact that the security services have to be a

:12:00. > :12:05.little bit, or substantially, more security minded than they have been.

:12:06. > :12:12.It explains what it means, you can be kept out of the country for up to

:12:13. > :12:18.two years. It is not inconsiderable. It is a case of slamming the stable

:12:19. > :12:22.door after the horse has gone. From what we have learned about the

:12:23. > :12:28.perpetrator of the Manchester bombing, he seemed to be coming and

:12:29. > :12:32.going from here to Libya without much attention being paid to him,

:12:33. > :12:37.and that has got to change. That is what this is about. Travel documents

:12:38. > :12:43.can be cancelled, they can refuse re-entry unless they agree to

:12:44. > :12:47.restrictions, or reporting to police on a regular basis. You would

:12:48. > :12:52.imagine that would be quite helpful to the authorities. That ought to be

:12:53. > :13:00.happening more than just once. I wonder why it has not. We are not

:13:01. > :13:11.experts, but it suggests they have just been rather lax. The bomb was

:13:12. > :13:13.on the radar, he was one of several hundred that the security services

:13:14. > :13:18.were looking at, and somebody from one of the mosques in South

:13:19. > :13:23.Manchester had reported him as being suspicious in his attitudes. They

:13:24. > :13:29.will just have to tighten up all round. It will be good to know who

:13:30. > :13:35.decides who is subject to these exclusion orders. The Home Secretary

:13:36. > :13:41.is to sign it off, that somebody at a lower level has to decide. Let's

:13:42. > :13:45.finish with the Independent, back to politics, and the campaign up to the

:13:46. > :13:50.election, which is not too far away now. An exclusive, Labour most

:13:51. > :13:59.trusted to protect pensioners, the poll is a major setback for Theresa

:14:00. > :14:02.May. We have a lot of polls in the independent, but this is

:14:03. > :14:06.significant, because the Conservative vote depends so much on

:14:07. > :14:14.older people turning out, because they turn out much more than younger

:14:15. > :14:19.people. I think the significance of the social care proposals in the

:14:20. > :14:24.manifesto, which have not gone away, has not been sorted out, has

:14:25. > :14:29.unsettled a lot of old people who are going to have their free care

:14:30. > :14:36.visits withdrawn if they owned their own house. That is going to have an

:14:37. > :14:42.impact. It has still not been made clear, the original selection --

:14:43. > :14:48.suggestion would be a cap, then the Conservatives suggested, which came

:14:49. > :14:53.to the surprise of the party, that you would have to pay everything in

:14:54. > :15:00.your estate up to 100,000, which flipped it round completely... That

:15:01. > :15:07.what the big change. It was reported in various bits of press, they took

:15:08. > :15:09.at the idea of the CAP, because it had originally been in the

:15:10. > :15:16.manifesto. That was not a clever thing to do. It was not just about

:15:17. > :15:21.the social care, which is a terrific worry for anybody in their 70s and

:15:22. > :15:25.upwards who need care, and there are an increasing number of them, but

:15:26. > :15:33.the means testing of the winter fuel allowance, and the end of the triple

:15:34. > :15:36.lock. All in all, adding it up, it seemed an absolutely anti-pensioner

:15:37. > :15:43.manifesto. A lot of the narrative was that a lot of these people, who

:15:44. > :15:46.are going to vote Conservative anyway, will do no matter what is in

:15:47. > :15:52.the manifesto. How certain can they be? That is why it is so

:15:53. > :15:56.significant. You cannot take people for granted. If you unsettled

:15:57. > :16:03.people, they are not going to vote Labour may not turn out to vote at

:16:04. > :16:05.all, and if at the other end you have Jeremy Corbyn promising free

:16:06. > :16:12.cherishing and succeeds in mobilising young people and getting

:16:13. > :16:16.them to turn out, you could see a dramatic effect. Almost twice as

:16:17. > :16:20.many people trust Labour to protect pensioners than the Conservatives,

:16:21. > :16:25.that does not break it down, and fishing, into age groups? Whose vote

:16:26. > :16:31.will be affected by this? Your concern maybe younger people who are

:16:32. > :16:39.concerned. Maybe, authority would expect it would be the older people

:16:40. > :16:42.who would be more concerned. But it is one explanation as to why the

:16:43. > :16:46.Tory poll lead is narrowing quite substantially, although it still

:16:47. > :16:52.suggests that Theresa May is en route for a fairly large overall

:16:53. > :16:57.majority. But it does not look quite as secure as it looked a fortnight

:16:58. > :17:01.ago. It does not. Let's leave it there for now. You will be back

:17:02. > :17:03.later. Don't forget all the front pages

:17:04. > :17:06.are online on the BBC News website, where you can read a detailed review

:17:07. > :17:08.of the papers. It's all there for you seven days

:17:09. > :17:11.a week at bbc.co.uk/papers, and you can see us there too,

:17:12. > :17:13.with each night's edition of The Papers being posted

:17:14. > :17:16.on the page shortly Ruth is so polite, always saying,

:17:17. > :17:33.may I say! You may! This week on Meet The Author Jim

:17:34. > :17:36.Naughtie talks to Ann Patchett