29/05/2017

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:00:13. > :00:16.Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be

:00:17. > :00:19.With me are the journalist and broadcaster Rachel Shabi

:00:20. > :00:21.and Martin Bentham, who's the Home Affairs Editor for the

:00:22. > :00:34.Are we going to talk to the straightaway or have a look at some

:00:35. > :00:36.of the papers? We will do just that. Let's have a look at some of the

:00:37. > :00:40.papers. The Mirror leads with

:00:41. > :00:42.the Manchester Arena bomber, Salman Abedi, who was seen carrying

:00:43. > :00:45.a suitcase days before the attack. The Guardian's top story

:00:46. > :00:47.is Theresa May and Jeremy Corbyn taking part in live

:00:48. > :00:49.TV interviews tonight. The Telegraph says the Labour Leader

:00:50. > :00:52.refused to say in the interview if he would ever authorise

:00:53. > :00:55.a drone strike to kill The Times focuses on Theresa May

:00:56. > :00:58.trying to woo working-class Labour and Ukip voters to switch

:00:59. > :01:05.to the Conservatives over Brexit. An opinion poll shows the Tories

:01:06. > :01:11.have a 6-point lead over Labour. The Metro leads on the female

:01:12. > :01:14.zookeeper killed by a tiger at It also has the death of former

:01:15. > :01:22.Blue Presenter John Noakes. One of the stories on the FT

:01:23. > :01:25.is Russian President Vladimir Putin and French President Emmanuel Macron

:01:26. > :01:28.holding talks near Paris. And eating fish just

:01:29. > :01:30.once or twice a week could protect against dementia -

:01:31. > :01:47.that's according to research seen Well, let us begin. Let's go to this

:01:48. > :01:52.TB, keep trying to avoid the word debate but it's in the headlines.

:01:53. > :01:58.You start off with the Guardian talking about... This is Theresa

:01:59. > :02:02.May, Jeremy Corbyn first and then Theresa May. The interviews were

:02:03. > :02:08.separate and then taking questions from the audience. What do you think

:02:09. > :02:11.of it? I thought it was a no score draw. Jeremy Corbyn performed

:02:12. > :02:16.perhaps better than some people might have thought he would. I think

:02:17. > :02:27.he did quite well from that point of view, Theresa May did -- had some

:02:28. > :02:31.difficult questions about the U-turn and leading the Brexit negotiations.

:02:32. > :02:35.She came through it quite well and finished quite strongly. It

:02:36. > :02:39.ultimately probably will not affect the election a great deal which was

:02:40. > :02:44.a bit of a no score draw. The Guardian story is an early version.

:02:45. > :02:50.Jeremy Corbyn was the first person to appear. They have started with an

:02:51. > :02:54.account of his performance. They will catch up by updating with what

:02:55. > :03:01.Theresa May was saying and being questioned on. Complete a reporting

:03:02. > :03:06.job, which is unusual in an election campaign. Rachel, the point about

:03:07. > :03:13.Jeremy Corbyn, he faced quite a tough time because he was asked, did

:03:14. > :03:20.you support the ERA? Paxman seemed to dig into his history a great

:03:21. > :03:23.deal. -- the IRA. They both faced tough questioning. Corbyn about the

:03:24. > :03:30.thing people have been trying to get to stick to him for the last month

:03:31. > :03:35.has not worked about the IRA. I disagree. I think this was probably

:03:36. > :03:38.a win for Corbyn in the sense that Theresa May, let's remember we're

:03:39. > :03:42.not having debates because she didn't want them. She didn't want to

:03:43. > :03:47.be exposed to a live debate with Jeremy Corbyn. The more we see of

:03:48. > :03:52.her the more we can understand why. She doesn't do well in this format

:03:53. > :03:57.and she doesn't do well for the public. With Jeremy Corbyn, it is

:03:58. > :04:01.the opposite. He thrives in this environment. He is very natural and

:04:02. > :04:07.engaged when he has a chance to be with the public. The more exposure

:04:08. > :04:13.she has, the worse she will do and the more it will appear like her

:04:14. > :04:16.leadership is premised on a very thin veneer. With Corbyn, the

:04:17. > :04:24.opposite is true for stop the more people see the more they like him.

:04:25. > :04:29.Some people. There are a lot of voters. A lot of people are not

:04:30. > :04:33.convinced by Corbyn. That is a definite fact. He is well behind in

:04:34. > :04:39.the leadership. Here's behind compared with where he was before.

:04:40. > :04:46.It is under liable and completely unimaginable he is doing as well as

:04:47. > :04:50.he is doing. I certainly would do. He has improved and performed quite

:04:51. > :04:54.well tonight. There were some areas he was wobbly on. He ultimately came

:04:55. > :05:01.through well. I do think she did well. Didn't Paxman get a point over

:05:02. > :05:06.the Prime Minister when he said to her, listen, the way you had to

:05:07. > :05:11.backtrack, let's call it a U-turn over social care and things like

:05:12. > :05:16.that, particularly care of the very elderly. It showed in negotiations

:05:17. > :05:22.over Brexit, people in Europe will say, you have to stick to your guns

:05:23. > :05:27.and she will run away. That is truth is that she had difficult issues and

:05:28. > :05:32.that quote from Jeremy Paxman about a blowhard who will roll over at the

:05:33. > :05:36.first sign of battle, whatsoever. That was difficult for her to deal

:05:37. > :05:46.with. On the other hand, when she said, are you prepared to walk away?

:05:47. > :05:59.She gave a good answer to that. It makes no sense. Walking away from a

:06:00. > :06:05.no deal is really strong. You could say walking away with no deal is not

:06:06. > :06:11.a strong position. Let's have a look at the times. The front page of the

:06:12. > :06:16.times. Mae woos working class with a tough line on Brexit was that surely

:06:17. > :06:23.it is a tough line to say, if we do not like it, we will go. Is it tough

:06:24. > :06:29.to say, we will take whatever chaos that will follow a no deal. That is

:06:30. > :06:36.not tough. It makes you look low. Like you have no ground to stand on.

:06:37. > :06:41.The piece in the Times will be looking at what Theresa May is

:06:42. > :06:44.trying to do this week, which is re-energise her floundering campaign

:06:45. > :06:50.by appealing to the working class vote. A lot of the operational

:06:51. > :06:55.premise of this campaign has been that the Conservatives will

:06:56. > :07:00.basically swallow up Ukip voters now that they have moved so far to the

:07:01. > :07:05.right there is no need for Ukip. This is very much of them continuing

:07:06. > :07:11.in that same vein. The question really is, if the Labour Party voted

:07:12. > :07:18.for Brexit and is going for Brexit, then, it is not a given that the

:07:19. > :07:22.Ukip photo would automatically switch Conservative. Quite a few

:07:23. > :07:28.Ukip voters were traditional Labour voters. That has always been the

:07:29. > :07:33.case. It is true from personal experience, being on the campaign

:07:34. > :07:41.Trail, it has not been as much about Brexit as an issue in the election

:07:42. > :07:47.on the doorstep. Theresa May, despite the setback she has had but

:07:48. > :07:50.she wants to try to return to the agenda before, trying to present

:07:51. > :07:56.herself as the more compelling leader. She has had a bad week or

:07:57. > :08:00.so. The Manchester attack and the big wobble over social care which

:08:01. > :08:06.has undermined her position. She wants to get back to some of the

:08:07. > :08:11.issues she think she is stronger on and score points on. She still think

:08:12. > :08:17.she will be more effective over the area of immigration and so on with

:08:18. > :08:22.the Brexit negotiations. Did the issue of security, came back in some

:08:23. > :08:34.ways to Manchester, did security figure in it? Did once say, I am

:08:35. > :08:37.really tough on this or not. Security came up quite a bit from

:08:38. > :08:40.the audience in both the sets of questions. I think the policing

:08:41. > :08:45.issue came up quite a bit, that Theresa May had cut the police force

:08:46. > :08:50.by 20,000, especially when the police force had warned it would put

:08:51. > :08:56.us in danger if there were a security attack. I do not think it

:08:57. > :09:02.was the surprising issue of the debate. Don't say debate. Let's go

:09:03. > :09:06.back to the business of Manchester. Martin, perhaps you would start us

:09:07. > :09:11.on this one. It will be in a lot of the papers. It is a picture of some

:09:12. > :09:19.and a birdie with a blue case and the cops hunting for it. -- Salman

:09:20. > :09:25.Abedi. This is the latest bit of CCTV footage that has been released

:09:26. > :09:30.of his movements. You have had some in a supermarket. What is happening

:09:31. > :09:35.is the police and MI5 are trying to piece together exactly where he was

:09:36. > :09:41.at all points in the four days since he returned from Libya and also to

:09:42. > :09:44.trace this suitcase, which they are saying they do not believe has

:09:45. > :09:48.anything explosive or dangerous in it but at the same time I have

:09:49. > :09:53.informational something in it which is useful to them as part of their

:09:54. > :09:57.investigation. Basically they want to piece together every single

:09:58. > :10:05.detail of what happened in the period he was in the country. We see

:10:06. > :10:08.so many images and they come up. They said the public should not

:10:09. > :10:11.approach because you never know what the suitcase might contain. A

:10:12. > :10:18.difficult situation altogether. Let's move on. Another sad story

:10:19. > :10:22.here. The match around this business about the woman's zookeeper. We are

:10:23. > :10:28.beginning to get a few more details. A couple of the newspapers, we are

:10:29. > :10:32.talking about the Metro Festival. Basically, what we know about this,

:10:33. > :10:39.I think the woman has been named. We know a little bit about it but not a

:10:40. > :10:44.lot. Not a lot, except it sounds horrendous and gruesome. Zoo was

:10:45. > :10:49.evacuated after bloodcurdling screams were heard. This was a young

:10:50. > :10:55.woman zookeeper being apparently attacked and killed by a tiger. This

:10:56. > :11:01.was over the bank holiday. Obviously, it would have been very

:11:02. > :11:05.busy, I would imagine, and was very quickly evacuated. A horrible

:11:06. > :11:10.business altogether. As you say, lots of families around and so on.

:11:11. > :11:15.But a freak accident. These things hardly ever happen. That is the only

:11:16. > :11:19.consolation. We don't know how it did happen. It was not that the

:11:20. > :11:24.animal escaped. Presumably something went wrong in the procedure for

:11:25. > :11:27.keeping the animal London zookeeper apart, while the zookeeper was doing

:11:28. > :11:34.whatever she was trying to do at the time. Some suggestion that the

:11:35. > :11:39.zookeeper who died when to try to help somebody else. Who knows? A

:11:40. > :11:46.ghastly business altogether. It will be in a lot newspapers. Let's go

:11:47. > :11:52.back to the Times and British Airways with the most appalling

:11:53. > :11:59.weekend. Another line in the Times. BA accused of profiting from trapped

:12:00. > :12:04.passengers. What have they done wrong now? There are allegations

:12:05. > :12:08.that people are having to bring the premium rate hotline to register

:12:09. > :12:14.their compensation claims and also that people are not being reimbursed

:12:15. > :12:19.for having to take upgrades to find a way of getting out and getting

:12:20. > :12:25.away on holidays or business trips, or whatever it is they were going

:12:26. > :12:30.on. It just compounds what has been an absolutely disastrous few days

:12:31. > :12:34.for British Airways. I feel sorry for them. I quite like British

:12:35. > :12:38.Airways. They have been shooting themselves in the foot left right

:12:39. > :12:43.and centre. All these people, it is not just the fact you have had your

:12:44. > :12:52.flight is delayed. You can get refunds and so on. That does not

:12:53. > :12:54.help you if you have lost days of your holiday or you have missed the

:12:55. > :12:59.whole start of it. And almost certainly your luggage has gone

:13:00. > :13:03.somewhere else. Behind all this, there is a suggestion from the trade

:13:04. > :13:10.unions involved that what British Airways did was to get rid of

:13:11. > :13:14.skilled IT people, British Airways employees, and subcontract the work

:13:15. > :13:20.to India, and that is at the root of the problems. One wonders if that

:13:21. > :13:26.can be true but there has been a massive IT failure. It is

:13:27. > :13:31.interesting in this piece from the Times, the BA chief Executive, when

:13:32. > :13:39.he finally did appear... It is not a good look at it takes that long. He

:13:40. > :13:44.said something about the surge that cut out their system being so strong

:13:45. > :13:49.it actually cut out their back-up system as well. That seems really

:13:50. > :13:55.odd. It seems like a really strange setup to have and suggest some kind

:13:56. > :14:01.of... It is very bad business management that has a system which

:14:02. > :14:05.can be blown out by one power surge and the back-up as well. Clearly you

:14:06. > :14:09.need their resilience from a corporate point of view in the

:14:10. > :14:14.system so that if the main one goes down, the back-up will work,

:14:15. > :14:19.especially on something like the airline. The allegation is they are

:14:20. > :14:25.not the first people to suffer from this. D in the US had problems a few

:14:26. > :14:32.months ago. Quite similar system failure. The trouble with BA, when

:14:33. > :14:38.they are going out of Heathrow in particular where it is chock-a-block

:14:39. > :14:41.with planes and it is absolutely at capacity all the time anyway,

:14:42. > :14:46.anything that goes wrong has a massive knock on effect. It takes

:14:47. > :14:54.days for it to unravel, to clear the backlog. I think it is horrendous. A

:14:55. > :15:01.lot of people will think twice before they book with BN again -- BA

:15:02. > :15:07.again. On the front page of the Daily Mail. Some familiar faces. The

:15:08. > :15:13.Duke and Duchess of Cambridge and their two children, romping in their

:15:14. > :15:20.garden, I think it is. Romping in their garden in Norfolk. A really

:15:21. > :15:26.nice image. A nice family snap. Very relaxed and casual. I'm taken by the

:15:27. > :15:31.dog in motion in the middle of this shot. They have captured him

:15:32. > :15:37.mid-round in a very engaging manner, I think. There is a point to the

:15:38. > :15:41.story. I wish Diana had met my family. One must remind themselves

:15:42. > :15:53.it is 20 years since the Princess of Wales died. I thought it was about

:15:54. > :15:59.the grass not being cut. He needs to get the lawn mower house. It is a

:16:00. > :16:03.lovely photograph. If you were running the Royal properties, you

:16:04. > :16:10.would be Astroturf in them, wouldn't you? Sign up I would. As long as you

:16:11. > :16:13.don't suffer from hay fever, it has to be said.

:16:14. > :16:16.Don't forget you can see the front pages of the papers online

:16:17. > :16:19.It's all there for you seven days a week at bbc.co.uk/papers.

:16:20. > :16:23.And if you miss the programme any evening, you can watch it