:00:12. > :00:17.We'll be taking a look at tomorrow mornings papers in a moment -
:00:18. > :00:21.Jeremy Corbyn apologises after being unable to come up
:00:22. > :00:23.with the cost of Labour's key childcare policy
:00:24. > :00:30.Meanwhile, Theresa May returns to her main election message -
:00:31. > :00:33.saying only the Conservatives can be trusted to win a good
:00:34. > :00:39.Launching the SNP manifesto - Nicola Sturgeon says victory
:00:40. > :00:41.in Scotland would 'further reinforce' the mandate for a second
:00:42. > :00:48.Senior political figures in Wales take part in a television debate
:00:49. > :00:53.ahead of next week's general election.
:00:54. > :00:55.The singer Ariana Grande announces she's returning to perform
:00:56. > :00:57.in Manchester less than two weeks after the bombing that
:00:58. > :01:02.Police say three men arrested in connection
:01:03. > :01:04.with the Manchester bombing have been released without charge.
:01:05. > :01:31.Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be
:01:32. > :01:34.Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be
:01:35. > :01:37.With me are Ben Chu, Economics and business
:01:38. > :01:39.editor at The Independent, and Dave Wooding, political editor
:01:40. > :01:42.Tomorrow's front pages, starting with...
:01:43. > :01:44.The Metro leads with what it calls a car crash interview -
:01:45. > :01:47.where Jeremy Corbyn stumbled over the cost of Labour's free childcare
:01:48. > :01:56.The Daily Telegraph says it has seen leaked documents showing a Labour
:01:57. > :01:59.plan to allow thousands of unskilled migrants to enter
:02:00. > :02:06.The same story is in the Mail adding that proposals also include axing
:02:07. > :02:09.rules which limit foreign spouses living here unless they can
:02:10. > :02:15.show they will not be a 'burden' on the taxpayer.
:02:16. > :02:19.The Guardian focuses on Theresa May saying Jeremy Corbyn's policies
:02:20. > :02:21.would leave him "alone and naked" in the negotiating chamber
:02:22. > :02:24.of the EU, they call it her strongest personal attack
:02:25. > :02:29.The Times refers to a YouGov poll suggesting the Conservatives
:02:30. > :02:32.could be in line to lose 20 seats and Labour gain nearly 30
:02:33. > :02:43.The Daily Star's top story is the American pop star
:02:44. > :02:45.Ariana Grande returning to the UK on Sunday, for a benefit
:02:46. > :02:48.concert for the victims of the Manchester Arena attack -
:02:49. > :02:57.the line up includes Justin Bieber, Coldplay and Take That.
:02:58. > :03:00.And one of the stories on the Financial Times is a plan
:03:01. > :03:02.by London Mayor Sadiq Khan and Transport For London
:03:03. > :03:14.for people to be able to use their phones on the tube.
:03:15. > :03:22.We will discuss whether or not it is a good idea. Then, the metro are
:03:23. > :03:27.kicking off with what has been described as a car crash interview
:03:28. > :03:31.by Jeremy Corbyn on Woman's Hour, "I'm sorry, I haven't a clue". He
:03:32. > :03:36.apologised afterwards, he could not remember how much the childcare
:03:37. > :03:39.policy would cost. An apology was in order, it goes to show there is no
:03:40. > :03:46.good in having a fully costed manifesto which you brandish as a
:03:47. > :03:52.sign of Vista goal -- fiscal possibility. There has been a
:03:53. > :03:56.suggestion on twitter saying whether this interview technique was unfair,
:03:57. > :04:01.asking Labour spokespeople on the numbers and what they are saying,
:04:02. > :04:05.isn't it turning policies into a memory test? That does not really
:04:06. > :04:15.wash, 30 hours of free childcare to two to four-year-olds, it's big. He
:04:16. > :04:21.launched it today, it wasn't out of the blue. To not know those numbers,
:04:22. > :04:26.it's no wonder people are, down hard on him. It's not the first in that
:04:27. > :04:31.election campaign? There have been multiple car crashes, multiple
:04:32. > :04:34.pilots! If you look at the words people use during the by-election,
:04:35. > :04:41.strong and stable, the Britain that works for everyone, many and not the
:04:42. > :04:46.few, if you topped up their terms that Jeremy Corbyn Ernst during the
:04:47. > :04:49.interview, that's probably the word of the election. These interviews
:04:50. > :04:55.are fair game. You always hear people complaining who are loyal
:04:56. > :05:04.supporters of that particular party. But being Prime Minister in Theresa
:05:05. > :05:09.May's case, you put yourself forward for that job and you must accept the
:05:10. > :05:15.scrutiny. It is fair game for people to ask these questions. The problem
:05:16. > :05:19.is, as you rightly say, he has been asking questions about a detailed
:05:20. > :05:23.policy that he had nothing else to go on and discuss. He would have
:05:24. > :05:27.been briefed by his aides about the fine details of that policy. You
:05:28. > :05:38.would think he would know every dot and, of it. -- every dot of it.
:05:39. > :05:42.There is no excuse come is you think that he would have been served badly
:05:43. > :05:46.by his aides, if they wrote it down... And how does it compare to
:05:47. > :05:52.other car crashes like Diane Abbott? The police figures car crash... I
:05:53. > :05:58.think it is worse. He is the party leader, for a start. This was all
:05:59. > :06:01.about that particular announcement. It is a simple figure. They did the
:06:02. > :06:06.costings at that stage but with Diane Abbott they had not released
:06:07. > :06:10.documentation. All they needed to do was read the document they put
:06:11. > :06:16.alongside the manifesto. There are only 12 or 15 lines, not a huge feat
:06:17. > :06:20.of memory. And will the voters care? He apologised, it does not matter...
:06:21. > :06:25.I listened to that, you were cringing from the first minute when
:06:26. > :06:29.you heard it. It was sharp intakes of breath galore! I think it will
:06:30. > :06:36.have an impact but it moves people in small degrees. If you compare him
:06:37. > :06:41.with Gordon Brown, when he does radio or TV interviews he would have
:06:42. > :06:47.his aides up at 5am. They would moan to me about it. Tracked in at 5am,
:06:48. > :06:53.files and detailed documents, with figures and facts galore. And Gordon
:06:54. > :07:00.would be completely on top of it. A tough job at the top. You would
:07:01. > :07:04.know! The Times newspaper, according to The Times, Jeremy Corbyn is doing
:07:05. > :07:10.all right as they have a shock poll predicting Tory losses!? It's
:07:11. > :07:14.interesting, they are almost apologetic and how they write the
:07:15. > :07:18.story, saying do not take it too literally... It is astonishing if
:07:19. > :07:25.this happened. The Conservatives would actually lose about 30
:07:26. > :07:29.seats... Sorry, 20 seats. And Labour would gain 30. On one reading of
:07:30. > :07:38.this model that you got have done is a bottom-up exercise in how the
:07:39. > :07:41.seats will change -- YouGov. Consider five weeks ago when Theresa
:07:42. > :07:49.May called this snap general election it was on the assumption
:07:50. > :07:55.that they would get a landslide. For her to cement her position and to
:07:56. > :08:01.lose in the House of Commons would be one of the most astonishing
:08:02. > :08:05.reversals in modern electoral history. Even if she only gets a few
:08:06. > :08:10.more seats than before, people would say, what is that all about?
:08:11. > :08:18.People's expectations are so high, if she ends up with 40, a majority
:08:19. > :08:22.of 40 seats, it would be regarded as a massive... Why did we go through
:08:23. > :08:27.this hell? And the Tories, if they are struggling, we do not know
:08:28. > :08:32.whether to believe in a poll like that, or any poll, but if they are
:08:33. > :08:37.struggling, why? This general election is unique in some ways. It
:08:38. > :08:43.is completely different from something that we have seen in
:08:44. > :08:46.recent history. When you put yourself to the country, you get
:08:47. > :08:51.scrutinised, as we have seen in interviews. People look at them like
:08:52. > :08:55.Theresa May, we haven't seen much in the years since she became Prime
:08:56. > :08:58.Minister. One thing she did different to David Cameron and Tony
:08:59. > :09:06.Blair was to stay out the news. She has told us little. During the
:09:07. > :09:13.campaign like this, it's inevitable she is scrutinised a and night every
:09:14. > :09:16.day, in front of the cameras. And conversely, are people warming to
:09:17. > :09:24.Jeremy Corbyn? Despite that car crash interview? Are they beginning
:09:25. > :09:29.to like him, in a way? It is difficult to see. In the polls but
:09:30. > :09:34.who is the best leader and Brexit in the economy, it is clear Theresa May
:09:35. > :09:38.is held in much higher esteem by the public then Jeremy Corbyn. There is
:09:39. > :09:43.no significant shift as far as I have seen on those indicators. It is
:09:44. > :09:50.worth pointing out in another poll today showing the Conservatives have
:09:51. > :09:54.a 12 point lead, down from about 25 points but it is at odds with the
:09:55. > :09:57.idea that we are heading for that. And there is another poll showing
:09:58. > :10:05.Theresa May is in line for a 100 seat majority. Someone will end up
:10:06. > :10:10.with egg on their face! The Daily Mail has a story about Labour's plan
:10:11. > :10:18.for Britain to open their doors wider. Letting in tens of thousands
:10:19. > :10:22.of unskilled migrants, being leaked? It has the hallmarks of a
:10:23. > :10:27.Conservative operation, leaking what would be perceived to be very
:10:28. > :10:30.damaging for Labour, being soft on immigration and going to the
:10:31. > :10:34.Telegraph and the mail. Presumably something left by a photocopier in
:10:35. > :10:41.the House of Commons has been scooped up by conservative workers.
:10:42. > :10:49.I do not know how concrete it is as a policy, whether it is hypothetical
:10:50. > :10:53.or what they are intending to do. Or how serious it is. Will it lead to
:10:54. > :10:57.tens of thousands or is it eight-week? We don't know, the
:10:58. > :11:03.messages Labour are soft on immigration. I can see a change
:11:04. > :11:09.in... Not the time but the subject matter of the election here. We had
:11:10. > :11:13.this break with tragic events in Manchester, which stopped
:11:14. > :11:18.campaigning. What we also know from the polls is attacking Jeremy Corbyn
:11:19. > :11:22.on the IRA is not really sticking or having an effect. All of these
:11:23. > :11:26.businesses about strong and stable leadership and past consorting with
:11:27. > :11:32.terrorists, not having the slightest bit of impact. They seem to go for
:11:33. > :11:38.areas where it does work. You may see Labour going for the NHS more.
:11:39. > :11:41.25% of people put it as a top issue. Immigration is a top issue with
:11:42. > :11:46.Brexit. We will hear the Conservatives talking a lot about
:11:47. > :11:51.Brexit and immigration. Speaking of the NHS, that queues up nicely The i
:11:52. > :11:57.newspaper. They have Jeremy Hunt saying that it bad Brexit will
:11:58. > :12:03.damage the NHS? I do not think it is a planned intervention, The i
:12:04. > :12:08.newspaper reporter doorstep and said, what about the NHS? The
:12:09. > :12:14.response was if you want a strong NHS you need a strong Conservative
:12:15. > :12:18.Party. I don't think this is a concerted effort to say to vote for
:12:19. > :12:25.the Conservatives to protect the NHS. We all know the NHS is strong.
:12:26. > :12:30.Everyone associates Labour with being the party of the NHS. I think
:12:31. > :12:35.Jeremy Hunt is effectively saying something he has to say within his
:12:36. > :12:37.brief. I don't think it is particularly calculated. It is
:12:38. > :12:42.interesting but not what we have heard before. People like Jeremy
:12:43. > :12:47.Hunt, we have not seen hugely in the campaign? It is funny how some of
:12:48. > :12:56.the top Tory leadership are kept under wraps? That was all that
:12:57. > :13:01.policy about Theresa May's team. You vote for her team as she is a strong
:13:02. > :13:05.leader. Jeremy Corbyn, as we were saying, looks more attractive as a
:13:06. > :13:10.politician and things are changing a little bit here. Away from the
:13:11. > :13:18.election... You talked about Manchester. And Ariana Grande
:13:19. > :13:23.announcing her concert on Sunday. In Manchester. Her concert of defiance
:13:24. > :13:30.is the Daily Mirror's headline. Not just her but other big stars? That's
:13:31. > :13:33.a good headline, it was a cultural terror attack, striking at the heart
:13:34. > :13:43.of something that is very resonant in a lot of people's lives. Going to
:13:44. > :13:49.a pop concert and the feeling is that they decided to carry on. Have
:13:50. > :13:53.an even bigger concert. And a load of other megastars there. That is
:13:54. > :14:02.how to honour them and help victims. It starts with young fan bases like
:14:03. > :14:07.she has. A strong message going to terrorists, you cannot frighten or
:14:08. > :14:13.divide us. We will remain free and have this concert to show you...
:14:14. > :14:19.Some people have suggested it is too soon? With people being treated in
:14:20. > :14:23.hospital and so on... It is fundraising to help the campaign.
:14:24. > :14:27.There's a concert on Thursday from the other great music scene in
:14:28. > :14:33.Manchester, the classical music scene with the BBC Philharmonic
:14:34. > :14:40.Orchestra. Sir Mark Elder, they will all be performing a concert on
:14:41. > :14:49.Thursday to raise money. Classical music is raising its bit -- is doing
:14:50. > :14:53.its bit. They have shown extraordinary solidarity and unity,
:14:54. > :14:57.in trying to overcome this? It is very difficult when something like
:14:58. > :15:06.this happens. To know what tone to strike. It is sad, all of these
:15:07. > :15:10.emotions are mixed up. I must say that Andy Burnham, the numeric
:15:11. > :15:16.Manchester, has done a terrific job in speaking on behalf of the city.
:15:17. > :15:22.Having just been elected. Yes, he has been a cabinet minister and that
:15:23. > :15:28.high level of authority has given him the ability to speak for the
:15:29. > :15:32.people with a good voice. Let's talk about the Financial Times. They have
:15:33. > :15:36.a story, I do not know if it is good news or bad news. The idea that you
:15:37. > :15:42.may be able to use your mobile phone or the time on the tube? That will
:15:43. > :15:45.increase chatter levels... The London mayor has a lot on his plate.
:15:46. > :15:53.He has the whole Brexit thing and the impact of the City of London,
:15:54. > :16:00.the disaster of Stafford rail. It does not strike me that this should
:16:01. > :16:06.be high on the list of priorities. People on their mobile phones while
:16:07. > :16:10.on the Underground, it has been a safe haven from that kind of thing.
:16:11. > :16:16.I remember reading these stories ten or 15 years ago about how we will
:16:17. > :16:21.soon, in only be able to talk on the underground on our mobile phones. --
:16:22. > :16:26.imminently. Have you seen it in action? In Hong Kong, they have the
:16:27. > :16:31.ability to do it and it is not very pleasant to be a passenger. People
:16:32. > :16:36.shouting to their mobile phones in Protestant -- proximity to you. I
:16:37. > :16:41.would not recommend it. Even though it is coming! Perhaps with all of
:16:42. > :16:49.the chatter we are hearing, they should have a new line called
:16:50. > :16:57.chatter chatter tube tube? You are good, you should work in newspapers!
:16:58. > :17:01.And mobiles on the cheap? Most tube journeys are quite short. You can
:17:02. > :17:05.use them on the tube if you come from alkaline districts into the
:17:06. > :17:11.underground. It is central London where most of us are taking, what is
:17:12. > :17:14.the average journey? Ten or 15 minutes? There are moments though
:17:15. > :17:21.when you need to receive or send a text and you can't. I can see the
:17:22. > :17:26.benefits of it but maybe they should have one carriage at the back where
:17:27. > :17:35.you can use your phone? A noisy carriage! The Guardian have, is 80
:17:36. > :17:41.the new 50? Let's hope so! You are never old until you are on death's
:17:42. > :17:50.door! The idea that you turn 65 and then you are an old person... It's
:17:51. > :17:54.interesting, the statistics saying that when Beveridge, in the 1940s,
:17:55. > :18:00.said the retirement age should be 65, half of people died before they
:18:01. > :18:05.reached 70. It makes sense, you are old at this stage. Now, people get
:18:06. > :18:12.to 90, 100... You are clearly not old when you are 65. Even 70.
:18:13. > :18:18.Essentially, Sarah Harper, co-director of the Oxford Institute,
:18:19. > :18:23.say that they had to reform how they think of age and old people. As I
:18:24. > :18:27.say, you are not really old until you are no longer an active adult
:18:28. > :18:36.which can be at any time. You might be 80, or even 90. You should not be
:18:37. > :18:41.called old? That is what she argues! Thanks, I'm coming back again for
:18:42. > :18:47.that! At this time of night, you drag me on and that is what I get!
:18:48. > :18:52.It is true, you see people now in their 70s, and you say, gosh, is he
:18:53. > :19:00.75? It does not look it. The standard of health, that is better.
:19:01. > :19:03.The interesting thing is maybe people are older before they are old
:19:04. > :19:08.at the other end of the scale. We talk about giving younger people the
:19:09. > :19:10.vote at 16 and the rights that people get coming on younger. Our
:19:11. > :19:17.adult life is actually expanding at both ends. You are telling us,
:19:18. > :19:24.people aged 100... That is increasing? In the 18th century
:19:25. > :19:28.there were only ten aged 100 but there are 20,500 in the UK alone and
:19:29. > :19:35.estimates by the end of the century there will be 1.5 million over the
:19:36. > :19:38.age of 100 in the UK. It goes to show... Fascinating statistics to
:19:39. > :19:41.leave us with. Thank you to both of you. I apologise for questioning
:19:42. > :20:21.your age. Let's have a look at some of the
:20:22. > :20:24.other stories making the news this evening... Jeremy Corbyn apologises
:20:25. > :20:30.for not being able to come up with the cost of Labour's key childcare
:20:31. > :20:33.policy during an interview on the BBC on Woman's Hour. But he is not
:20:34. > :20:34.apologising for that