04/06/2017

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:00:00. > :00:19.Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be

:00:20. > :00:22.With me are the political commentator, James Millar

:00:23. > :00:31.and Jo Phillips, who's also a political commentator.

:00:32. > :00:39.Of course, there is only one story we will be looking at.

:00:40. > :00:42.a counter-terrorism chief refuses to confirm whether the attackers

:00:43. > :00:45.were were already known to the police or intelligence services.

:00:46. > :00:48.The FT focuses on Theresa May's plans to review existing police

:00:49. > :00:50.and security powers, increase pressure on tech companies

:00:51. > :00:52.and introduce tougher anti-terror laws.

:00:53. > :00:54.The Telegraph claims counter-terrorism officers have been

:00:55. > :00:57.monitoring an alleged extremist cell in Barking since March and secretly

:00:58. > :01:00.recorded individuals plotting a van and knife attack in London.

:01:01. > :01:02.Quoting Mrs May's phrase that "Enough is Enough",

:01:03. > :01:11.the Express vows to support the Prime Minister's plans

:01:12. > :01:13.for what it calls "tougher action on terrorists".

:01:14. > :01:16.The Mail also leads with that quote from Mrs May, adding that

:01:17. > :01:18.all of Britain was echoing her sentiments.

:01:19. > :01:21.The Mirror leads with the heroes of last night.

:01:22. > :01:23.It said policeman and members of the public fought off

:01:24. > :01:26.the attackers with batons, chairs, glasses and their bare hands.

:01:27. > :01:29.Police fired an "unprecedented" 50 bullets at the attackers to bring

:01:30. > :01:33.them down within eight minutes, the Metro says.

:01:34. > :01:44.And the i calls the police and public response "defiant"

:01:45. > :01:51.It has been an incredibly fraught and a difficult 24 hours for a lot

:01:52. > :01:57.of people but the response from the public and police has been hailed by

:01:58. > :02:04.so many people. The Guardian leads with the numbers- seven dead. And

:02:05. > :02:12.Mrs May saying, "Enough is enough" "Enough is enough". Despite what has

:02:13. > :02:18.been happening in the last few months, it is a very unusual sight

:02:19. > :02:25.for us to see armed officers on our streets. Coming here tonight, there

:02:26. > :02:30.were police officers all over the place. I came over Westminster

:02:31. > :02:37.Bridge. Police vans. London Bridge still cordoned off. And to see

:02:38. > :02:41.police officers dressed like this is an alarming as well as reassuring

:02:42. > :02:49.but the question is, you cannot have that all the time. You can do it for

:02:50. > :02:56.a little while. After Manchester, it ramped up, and after Westminster and

:02:57. > :03:01.obviously people can put measures in place for security around buildings

:03:02. > :03:08.but we do not have enough people to do this at this level and we would

:03:09. > :03:14.not want to at all. The Guardian talks about how the investigation is

:03:15. > :03:20.focusing on whether these three men shot dead, what kind of support they

:03:21. > :03:27.may have had? That is the thing that is becoming unfortunately familiar,

:03:28. > :03:33.investigators rushing to find out if they were part of a network,

:03:34. > :03:36.mounting multiple raids and arresting lots of people. That is

:03:37. > :03:42.the initial reaction and over the next few days we will find out

:03:43. > :03:48.whether there is network. There has not been in the last few incident

:03:49. > :03:55.and we do not know what has happened with the arrests from the last

:03:56. > :04:02.incident. Women taken from a block of flats, a man Tasered. Three women

:04:03. > :04:08.led away from the same flat, noting there are women involved because

:04:09. > :04:16.invariably people involved in these things are men. "Enough is enough"

:04:17. > :04:24.declares it made. What can that mean? There have been moves in the

:04:25. > :04:29.past to strengthen laws and surveyed its opportunities but there is

:04:30. > :04:36.always some bush back against that. The FT says that this is a rhetoric.

:04:37. > :04:42.Beyond that, what will it mean, we will have to find out that as well.

:04:43. > :04:47.Mrs May says she was a deciding about the Internet. She persuaded

:04:48. > :04:53.the G7 leaders to dedicate a new tool to clean up the web which

:04:54. > :04:59.sounds good but I do not know what that means also longer jail

:05:00. > :05:07.sentences for terrorist attacks but there is no worse place to put these

:05:08. > :05:14.people. It is very difficult for any politician to tread the line. If you

:05:15. > :05:20.say "Enough is enough" and we have to be less tolerant because we have

:05:21. > :05:26.been too tolerant, where does that take you? It is difficult for

:05:27. > :05:31.Theresa May, Jeremy Corbyn, for anybody as to how to make people

:05:32. > :05:37.feel safe and the question raised about people who claim to have

:05:38. > :05:42.reported incidents and suspicions. By the nature of reporting, they

:05:43. > :05:48.will not get a knock on the door the next day saying thank you very much.

:05:49. > :05:52.This is about surveillance. It is control orders. Where that they

:05:53. > :06:00.should come back to replace what we have now. What do you do and at what

:06:01. > :06:04.point do the security services strike to prevent these? They have a

:06:05. > :06:10.ready prevented several planned attacks before this. You do wonder

:06:11. > :06:15.if in the light of Manchester, police were jetting out a lot of

:06:16. > :06:22.people they had been checking out before and whether they were on that

:06:23. > :06:28.and possibly push them into doing something we will have to wait and

:06:29. > :06:34.see. The Daily Mail, the picture is not easy to make out there are men

:06:35. > :06:40.on the ground, wearing their fake suicide vests which, of course, if

:06:41. > :06:47.you are confronting these people you do not know whether they are of real

:06:48. > :06:51.or not. Of course, and you are in a crowded area were people are already

:06:52. > :06:55.injured and dying and they did what they did and they did it very

:06:56. > :07:03.quickly. James and I were talking about the rightness, if you like, of

:07:04. > :07:08.publishing photographs like this. I am concerned about this. What

:07:09. > :07:14.concerns it you? Am concerned because you begin to make this

:07:15. > :07:19.people into something they are not, they get notoriety. The comparison

:07:20. > :07:25.with high school shootings in America. Eventually the press

:07:26. > :07:32.realise, if you put these people in the front page someone at home will

:07:33. > :07:35.look and see that someone got the front page because they did

:07:36. > :07:42.something terrible and they think I will do something terrible. Just

:07:43. > :07:48.reported straight and the incidence fell off a bit. I concerned that

:07:49. > :07:53.somebody else will see this, they will see someone achieving

:07:54. > :08:02.something. I would rather see it pictures of the victims, the concert

:08:03. > :08:07.in Manchester. The Metro has the same picture, even close-up, saying

:08:08. > :08:12.police fired 50 bullets which is unprecedented. As you said just now,

:08:13. > :08:17.if you see free people and you believe they are wearing suicide

:08:18. > :08:23.vests, and you have a split second, you have to make sure... I do think

:08:24. > :08:28.there are questions about how papers, in particular, cover this.

:08:29. > :08:34.The rolling news channel is different but even then we have to

:08:35. > :08:39.pause and think. This picture gave me pause. I did not feel comfortable

:08:40. > :08:49.with this picture with it being used. The Metro, a free paper, on

:08:50. > :08:56.trains and buses were schoolchildren are travelling. Of course, he cannot

:08:57. > :09:03.keep children away from the horrors but you need to see that have the

:09:04. > :09:07.lawyer we stick... Part of it is because of citizen journalism. We

:09:08. > :09:13.were trying to work out whether this is an agency professional

:09:14. > :09:18.photographer but, of course, there are agencies who will market members

:09:19. > :09:29.of the public photographs. We are not saying these are the baddies

:09:30. > :09:35.here and it is OK to have a discussion about why it has

:09:36. > :09:41.happened. We do similar things with suicide to try and avoid copycat

:09:42. > :09:44.behaviour. I think something like this is something the newspapers

:09:45. > :09:50.that need to think about. There will be copycat attacks after this.

:09:51. > :09:57.Immense guidelines about the nature of pictures that we run, how much

:09:58. > :10:02.detail and how close you get. On the Daily Star they have gone with the

:10:03. > :10:09.kind of thing viewable comfortable with. He rose and journalists and

:10:10. > :10:15.taxidrivers featured. -- heroes, and the incredible emergency services

:10:16. > :10:22.who responded so quickly and how the public turned against these men

:10:23. > :10:27.despite a risk to themselves. Just as you cannot understand the people

:10:28. > :10:34.who do this, but the people who run towards the. The British transport

:10:35. > :10:39.policeman who got stabbed in the face taking them with passion.

:10:40. > :10:45.Dippel throwing chairs and pint glasses, anything. And you have the

:10:46. > :10:49.paramedics and ambulance crews who have nothing to protect themselves

:10:50. > :10:58.with and yet they parlayed and do their job and it is utterly

:10:59. > :11:06.remarkable. -- they pile in. And the Journal is becoming a celebrity...

:11:07. > :11:11.Absolutely. This is the photograph of the reality. The speed with which

:11:12. > :11:17.everybody is so quick to complain about delays in traffic or whether

:11:18. > :11:25.you are waiting in a queue, my son is a paramedic in London so I

:11:26. > :11:30.slightly by S. But you see this, it is really quick and fast and you

:11:31. > :11:34.have these people in the restaurants, waiters and waitresses,

:11:35. > :11:38.suddenly this horrific event on Saturday night and people come

:11:39. > :11:45.together instinctively, which I think is quite encouraging.

:11:46. > :11:52.Incredibly moving as well. In the Daily Telegraph, the picture of the

:11:53. > :11:59.armed officers out on the street. Apparently, there has been a secret

:12:00. > :12:02.recording of some cell in Barking, where the raids had taken place

:12:03. > :12:11.today, where an attack like this seemed to have been devised. But we

:12:12. > :12:15.do not know. Exactly, it goes back to this question of surveillance and

:12:16. > :12:21.intelligence. We do not know what has been going on, how long it has

:12:22. > :12:27.been operational. I think they have said since March, earlier this year

:12:28. > :12:35.but, apparently, there is a group of people talking about this, using

:12:36. > :12:40.YouTube... I sure not YouTube but YouTube videos and it goes back to

:12:41. > :12:47.the question of what is available on the net and how do you control it.

:12:48. > :12:50.Internet companies like Facebook and Google, are they taking it

:12:51. > :13:03.seriously... How can YouTube make a decision on

:13:04. > :13:08.every single video that gets uploaded? Millions are uploaded

:13:09. > :13:12.every single day. I am not making excuses for them at all, it is the

:13:13. > :13:17.sheer scale of it. You cannot legislate it because they will be

:13:18. > :13:24.some other way to find it. Exactly. The Internet is such an incredible

:13:25. > :13:29.concept. You cannot stop it. It is there now. You cannot roll it back.

:13:30. > :13:37.The Daily Express quoting the reason may. Enough is enough. -- Theresa

:13:38. > :13:41.May. They say they have repeatedly called for tougher action on

:13:42. > :13:46.terrorism. What does that mean? Until someone has committed a crime,

:13:47. > :13:50.what do you do? That is the biggest worry about this kind of stuff. It

:13:51. > :13:56.is fine saying enough is enough, but what can you do? There are people in

:13:57. > :14:04.a bunker in Whitehall that know what to do. But I am not sure what you

:14:05. > :14:07.can do against a van and a knife. It is not like putting together the

:14:08. > :14:15.components for a bomb. Exactly. It is not like the thing we're used to,

:14:16. > :14:21.tight security like airports, airlines and airports can bring in a

:14:22. > :14:26.ban on laptops, liquids, whatever. These are people on a street going

:14:27. > :14:34.around restaurants and things on a Saturday night. Drawing attention to

:14:35. > :14:39.this. Three men walking casually through Borough Market before they

:14:40. > :14:45.were shot dead. It may have been even before they carried it out. It

:14:46. > :14:49.may have been after they got out of the van and move across off of the

:14:50. > :14:57.bridge. It talks about what needs to happen in this tougher action. The

:14:58. > :15:01.Prevent strategy has been criticised for a long time. They need tothe

:15:02. > :15:06.radicalisation of people. One of the complaints was many people, many

:15:07. > :15:10.Muslims, felt there entire communities were being stigmatised

:15:11. > :15:16.by it. This is the problem. Again, it goes back to saying if you phone

:15:17. > :15:23.up and say I think this person is a bit dodgy, why, because he has a

:15:24. > :15:28.beard, he is wearing a grey suit. You think they are dodgy because

:15:29. > :15:36.little girls wear headscarves? It is delicate, this line we are treading.

:15:37. > :15:40.You cannot attack a whole community. Now, we have heard, and I am sure,

:15:41. > :15:48.again, today and tomorrow, we will hear condemnation from the wider

:15:49. > :15:52.Muslim community, as they have been since Westminster. These people

:15:53. > :15:58.doing these things actually don't belong in communities because they

:15:59. > :16:02.are... Communities, they are in communities of her own monstrous

:16:03. > :16:05.imagination. They are horrible, horrible people who watch

:16:06. > :16:10.monstrosities, whether it is Islamic State videos, or whatever... There

:16:11. > :16:14.were some Muslims on social media saying a true Muslim would be busy

:16:15. > :16:18.eating late at night during Ramadan because they have been fasting all

:16:19. > :16:26.day. That is what a true Muslim would be doing. The final paper, the

:16:27. > :16:31.i, defiant. Armed officers coming down escalators. It talks about the

:16:32. > :16:37.number of people killed and injured. Defiant is a good word. In America,

:16:38. > :16:45.they said London was reeling from it. I hate to refer to social media,

:16:46. > :16:52.but there have been many people getting uptight about the use of the

:16:53. > :16:56.word "reeling." It is not wrong to say we are reeling from Manchester

:16:57. > :17:02.because it was horrible. It is fine when something is that horrible.

:17:03. > :17:07.Isn't it about wanting to say that for ourselves? Yeah. Yeah. We can

:17:08. > :17:14.say that. It is about owning the word, isn't it? But you wouldn't ask

:17:15. > :17:20.any of those to keep to one side. They are being defiant. I like to

:17:21. > :17:25.think that is the British way. Stand to the right. Stand to be left. They

:17:26. > :17:31.also have a small photograph for Manchester as well. May be later

:17:32. > :17:38.additions will have something. We will see you again for the unusually

:17:39. > :17:44.late repeat at half past midnight. I hope you will join us... Well, I

:17:45. > :17:51.hope you will stay. I hope you will join us as well.

:17:52. > :17:55.The Prime Minister has said last night's attack isn't directly linked