:00:00. > :00:00.will keep running the team and I'm determined that we will get the
:00:00. > :00:00.America's Cup back. Hello and welcome to our look ahead
:00:00. > :00:18.to what the the papers will be With me are the political
:00:19. > :00:21.commentator and journalist, and the Foreign Editor
:00:22. > :00:28.of the Sunday Times, Peter Conradi. Welcome to both of you. Let's have a
:00:29. > :00:31.look at the front pages. The Observer leads with fire safety
:00:32. > :00:35.in schools, saying proposals to relax standards are to be
:00:36. > :00:40.dropped by ministers. Prince Harry dominates the front
:00:41. > :00:42.page of the The Mail of Sunday, saying he considered
:00:43. > :00:44.quitting his Royal role, The Sunday Telegraph headlines
:00:45. > :00:50."Blackmail fears after MPs The cyber attack is also the main
:00:51. > :00:55.story on the Sunday Times, who report there was fury
:00:56. > :00:58.at the time it took And the Express leads
:00:59. > :01:02.with an image of Jeremy Corbyn - saying he ignored Armed Forces Day
:01:03. > :01:17.invitations to appear Let's dip into at least some of
:01:18. > :01:22.those over the next 15 minutes. Let's kick off with the Observer.
:01:23. > :01:27.Bezy, take is to their front page, whether used the word "Panic" to
:01:28. > :01:31.describe what ministers facing over fire safety. It is quite an apt word
:01:32. > :01:33.for a lot of what has been going on in Whitehall and Council buildings
:01:34. > :01:37.up and down the country, obviously still trying to work out what on
:01:38. > :01:43.earth went one at Grenfell and what measures should have been put in
:01:44. > :01:46.place before Grenfell and need to be put in place now. The Observer
:01:47. > :01:50.kicking off by saying this is all about fire safety in schools
:01:51. > :01:56.specifically. One of the shocking things is that in, I think, between
:01:57. > :01:59.2007 and 2010, 70% of new school buildings that were being built were
:02:00. > :02:06.installed with sprinklers. That has gone down to 35% because of this
:02:07. > :02:09.loosening of the regulations that the accusation is the Conservative
:02:10. > :02:13.Government was putting in place. Their argument was there are fewer
:02:14. > :02:17.fires in schools, schools are better built, the sprinklers are
:02:18. > :02:24.unnecessary, and unnecessary cost. Obviously everything has changed
:02:25. > :02:26.now. David James, the Conservative chairman of the Conservative
:02:27. > :02:28.all-party fire safety group has been saying for a number of years that
:02:29. > :02:34.these new regulations were absolutely mad, "Crazy" was the word
:02:35. > :02:38.he used, so he will be applauding this U-turn. So we are looking at a
:02:39. > :02:43.complete change in attitude, Peter? I think we are. Reading the Observer
:02:44. > :02:47.story, there is a quote in there, "School buildings don't need to be
:02:48. > :02:52.sprinkler protected to achieve a reasonable standard of life safety."
:02:53. > :02:57.As a parent, I think what is a reasonable standard of life safety?
:02:58. > :03:01.I think the problem is that what started in an awful -- with an awful
:03:02. > :03:04.fire in a tower block is go to spread across all of our buildings.
:03:05. > :03:08.We're talking about schools here, elsewhere they are talking about
:03:09. > :03:12.hospitals, the extent to which how many hospitals are clad? How many
:03:13. > :03:19.other public buildings which Mark I think this is going to grow and grow
:03:20. > :03:22.and be a bigger and bigger problem. And in the Telegraph, with more
:03:23. > :03:24.reference here specifically to tower blocks and warnings over the
:03:25. > :03:30.compulsory testing of some about installation. Precisely. What we had
:03:31. > :03:33.with Grenfell Tower is we had insulation and we had cladding on
:03:34. > :03:37.top of it and the attention so far has been focused on the cladding,
:03:38. > :03:42.but looking at the installation now and the insulation is highly
:03:43. > :03:46.flammable. That is the scary think you combine that with the chimney
:03:47. > :03:49.effect and it is shocking stuff, really. And the problem is, as we
:03:50. > :03:53.know, an inquest has been announced but if they are going to do their
:03:54. > :03:57.job thoroughly, it is going to take a considerable amount of time. On
:03:58. > :04:00.the other hand, people are saying lives are at risk and if we have any
:04:01. > :04:05.repetition Grenfell, we will all, the political classes, will be held
:04:06. > :04:09.culpable, so there is real tension between the two sides and also, of
:04:10. > :04:14.course, after a disaster like this, if anybody starts to say we don't
:04:15. > :04:18.need these extra regulations, they will be immediately accused of
:04:19. > :04:22.putting lives in danger, so the politicisation of it is very
:04:23. > :04:27.difficult to manage when you are looking at it from the regulators'
:04:28. > :04:32.point of view. And the public inquiry, of course will be held, but
:04:33. > :04:35.they take time and there might be an interim statement of some
:04:36. > :04:39.description from that inquiry. But weirdly satisfy some of those who
:04:40. > :04:46.want more urgent... It will give some cancers, then you are so many
:04:47. > :04:49.people calling out conspiracy and cover-up and until you get some of
:04:50. > :04:55.those answers out there, that will continue to feed into the story --
:04:56. > :04:58.it'll give some cancers. And you have people living in tower blocks
:04:59. > :05:02.who are being told they have to be evacuated and saying no, my tower
:05:03. > :05:09.hasn't suddenly become dangerous since Grenfell went up. It is such a
:05:10. > :05:12.issue. Let's talk politics more specifically with regard to the
:05:13. > :05:19.Conservative Party. Daisy, staying with the Telegraph, Tory quote to
:05:20. > :05:22.skip "Toxic generation" and installing a younger face as leader,
:05:23. > :05:26.which would suggest going past the likes of Boris Johnson and David
:05:27. > :05:29.Davis. Saying that generation are all tainted by the failure of the
:05:30. > :05:34.Conservative Party to win the outright majority. It's like he
:05:35. > :05:42.makes you smile, hopes are turning to the "Golden generation". Who are
:05:43. > :05:47.saying this? And who is this golden generation? The Tory MPs, we are
:05:48. > :05:52.told, who were elected in 2010, so... And also some of the more
:05:53. > :05:59.junior Cabinet ministers, Dominic Raab, Priti Patel, Sajid Javid
:06:00. > :06:01.Orrell mentioned. Jessye Norman is one of the 2010 alleged golden
:06:02. > :06:07.generation and I do think he is an impressive man. Boris Johnson's
:06:08. > :06:10.brother also mooted. We all know that if you are mentioned as a
:06:11. > :06:15.possible leader, it probably is the kiss of death and it will probably
:06:16. > :06:23.never happen but I agree that people of Theresa May's generation and the
:06:24. > :06:28.big beasts, David Davies, whether it is David Davis or Boris Johnson, I
:06:29. > :06:32.suspect they are... That they probably has passed. Interesting
:06:33. > :06:37.that there is a reference to David Cameron in the peas, that when he
:06:38. > :06:42.joined the leadership race in 2005 that he wasn't very well-known. That
:06:43. > :06:45.is true but as Daisy says, talking about this golden generation but
:06:46. > :06:50.that is a new definition of Goldemann, it is difficult to feel
:06:51. > :06:54.inspired by anyone. -- of Goldemann. The only one I think who were
:06:55. > :06:58.genuinely have a chance is Ruth Davidson, the leader in Scotland but
:06:59. > :07:01.she is not an MP and she has said on many occasions she is getting
:07:02. > :07:05.married, she wants to have a child, her life is in Scotland and that is
:07:06. > :07:09.where she once the state. I have seen at least two commentators in
:07:10. > :07:13.today's paper saying route, your country and your party need you and
:07:14. > :07:18.of course, they could force a by-election, they could get her in.
:07:19. > :07:24.It is possible. It looks a bit desperate, doesn't it, really? Joe
:07:25. > :07:28.Johnson would be great, Joe against Boris, the Miliband brothers all
:07:29. > :07:33.over again. But does the country want another if Tony and running the
:07:34. > :07:36.party -- I suspect possibly not. Talking of Boris Johnson, he
:07:37. > :07:41.features in the Mail on Sunday, which I have thrown open on pages 16
:07:42. > :07:48.and 17, not entirely by accident, this is talking about further plots
:07:49. > :07:54.and this is... Well, secret Tory battle cry of DD 4pm, David Davies,
:07:55. > :07:59.and we have a photograph of him and Boris Johnson with Biff and Bob
:08:00. > :08:02.alongside them. It is wonderful stuff. It all seems to be based on a
:08:03. > :08:09.party that happened after the Queen's speech and for me, the best
:08:10. > :08:13.bits in it is the role played by Sir Desmond Swain, a backbench Tory MP
:08:14. > :08:18.for the New Forest West. Pictured with a marvellous hat on. A
:08:19. > :08:21.marvellous Holmberg. We are told that he wears a homburg hat around
:08:22. > :08:24.Westminster, swims a quarter of a mile in the Serpentine and he has
:08:25. > :08:29.apparently said Theresa May is the only person who stands between us
:08:30. > :08:32.and Bolshevism, in this 100th anniversary of the Russian
:08:33. > :08:37.Revolution, but he is basically singing David Davis's praises. I'm
:08:38. > :08:40.not entirely sure, I like Desmond Swain very much and he is one of the
:08:41. > :08:44.more gullible members of the Conservative Party in every way but
:08:45. > :08:49.I'm not sure he is in tune with what the general public one. I think
:08:50. > :08:52.there are rumours that the Tories now have fewer members than the Lib
:08:53. > :08:58.Dems. We don't know because the latest figures... As in party
:08:59. > :09:01.members? Party members. And we know Jeremy Corbyn is getting party
:09:02. > :09:05.members by the thousands by the day, so I just think they have got a real
:09:06. > :09:13.problem with that and Conservative backers, I see in the Telegraph,
:09:14. > :09:16.Alexander Timerco, Ukraine born businessman who has given the Tories
:09:17. > :09:21.have ?1 million, he is calling for a dynamic, young and articulate new
:09:22. > :09:25.leader and we all know... That is the same in every walk of life.
:09:26. > :09:33.Money does speak in politics when your backers lose weight. What have
:09:34. > :09:37.the Sunday Times written? Another twist on the saga, so much plotting
:09:38. > :09:43.going on. This version suggests that Theresa May will step down and that
:09:44. > :09:51.Phil Hammond will come in as a sort of interim leader. But not for a
:09:52. > :09:54.full five years. No, it is a bizarre strategy, suggesting he is not
:09:55. > :09:58.re-electable either but let's have him for a bit and we will have
:09:59. > :10:03.someone else who is. Make that gives them time to mind the golden
:10:04. > :10:06.generation. So he would take is passed the end of the Brexit
:10:07. > :10:09.negotiations is the theory. But he would agree in advance that he would
:10:10. > :10:13.stand down, so he would be totally lame duck, as bad as what we have
:10:14. > :10:18.got and I love this quote that says "He told me, he beat Phil Hammond,
:10:19. > :10:24."That it Theresa May could be Prime Minister, so could he." There is a
:10:25. > :10:27.ringing endorsement, because most people would agree she is not doing
:10:28. > :10:31.a fantastic job. I would love to be a wall in the conversations between
:10:32. > :10:36.those two. I wonder where these bits and pieces come from, briefings and
:10:37. > :10:40.nudges and winks that go on in the Palace of Westminster. It is all so
:10:41. > :10:43.unattractive and at a time when we have got serious problems, Grenfell,
:10:44. > :10:48.Brexit negotiations, no Government to speak up, the deal with the DUP
:10:49. > :10:52.still hasn't done, Northern Ireland still doesn't have a Government and
:10:53. > :10:58.you think, really, I load of Tory leadership navel-gazing, is that
:10:59. > :11:03.what we need? In Parliament, the other story highlighted, blackmail
:11:04. > :11:06.danger, this cyber attack. Yes, the Sunday Times, a couple of minutes
:11:07. > :11:09.they are making -- a couple of points they are making, the most
:11:10. > :11:13.damning news is that it happen on Friday morning, they are having a go
:11:14. > :11:18.at the Parliamentary Digital director, Rob Gray, who we are in
:11:19. > :11:21.form earns ?110,000 a year and used to work for the Royal Opera house.
:11:22. > :11:27.The complaint is he didn't tell MPs about this until 10:30pm, for fears
:11:28. > :11:32.of the thing being compromised. I am not sure... If it was the Russians
:11:33. > :11:34.what done it, I'm not sure what they would've made a correspondence
:11:35. > :11:37.between MPs and their constituents, they probably would have been a
:11:38. > :11:43.little underwhelmed by some of it but as ever, it shows how vulnerable
:11:44. > :11:46.all institutions are to hacking. And people nowadays tend to be so much
:11:47. > :11:52.more careful and more aware of the paper Trail, the e-mail Trail, that
:11:53. > :11:56.can be left. But because most people suspect that there isn't anything
:11:57. > :12:00.that interesting within most MPs' inboxes as far as Government or
:12:01. > :12:04.party politics, they are concentrating on the fact that there
:12:05. > :12:07.could be something juicy as far as blackmail or inappropriate messages
:12:08. > :12:12.going back and forth and I suspect there will be a lot of nervous
:12:13. > :12:19.researchers. "Did I really write that?" It couldn't possibly be me,
:12:20. > :12:23.someone must have accessed my computer. Page two of the Mail on
:12:24. > :12:26.Sunday, this is Justin Welby, the Archbishop of Canterbury with his
:12:27. > :12:30.thoughts on the Brexit negotiations. I'm a big fan of the Archbishop of
:12:31. > :12:34.Canterbury. I think he is brave and has been very outspoken on a lot of
:12:35. > :12:42.issues since he took office and he is calling for, he says, to draw the
:12:43. > :12:45.poison from Brexit, for a coalition and I think he is absolutely right
:12:46. > :12:52.on that message, because Brexit is such a big deal and it should be, in
:12:53. > :12:56.theory, above party politics. On the other hand, I've absolutely no faith
:12:57. > :13:00.that anything will happen on this because it's been made such a
:13:01. > :13:05.political issue over the last generation, Europe, leaving Europe,
:13:06. > :13:09.after the referendum, that the parties are set up to fight punch
:13:10. > :13:14.and Judy style with each other and I would say are totally incapable of
:13:15. > :13:18.joining a coalition. These kinds of coalitions are needed on pensions,
:13:19. > :13:23.the future of the NHS, there are so many issues that should in theory be
:13:24. > :13:27.above party politics. It is part of a longer interview he has done. It
:13:28. > :13:32.is a comment piece he has written that goes from the solidarity shown
:13:33. > :13:38.over Grenfell to the lack of solidarity, the opposite, over
:13:39. > :13:42.Brexit. Peter, take is to the Sunday Times, because you highlighted this
:13:43. > :13:46.story outside the studio, this is with reference to what a Dutch
:13:47. > :13:55.doctor is saying about end of life care. Yes, it is. A chap called
:13:56. > :14:01.Marcel Levy, the chief executive of University College London Hospitals
:14:02. > :14:06.and he looks at the huge amount of resources that are devoted to
:14:07. > :14:10.patients in the last moments, the last months or weeks of their lives,
:14:11. > :14:14.or whatever, and not obviously only from the point of view of cost but
:14:15. > :14:18.from the point of view of suffering and says should we really be doing
:14:19. > :14:23.this? Is it really worth it for people, to put them through that
:14:24. > :14:27.last bit of dialysis, that last treatment, just to prolong their
:14:28. > :14:30.life for another week, another two weeks, if they are going to spend
:14:31. > :14:34.most of those weeks being treated? Why not just accept it is all over,
:14:35. > :14:39.make the most of it, go on holiday with your family instead? My father
:14:40. > :14:42.was in a hospice when he was dying and the difference in treatment that
:14:43. > :14:46.you get in a hospice, which is obviously all about end of life
:14:47. > :14:51.care, making it as good as possible in those last few days, to the care
:14:52. > :14:55.that you get in a hospital was very very marked, because they are
:14:56. > :15:00.experts in that area and they were so impressive in both treating the
:15:01. > :15:05.dying person but also the family, and looking after them, and I learnt
:15:06. > :15:09.a lot from that experience and ever since have been massively keen on
:15:10. > :15:14.hospice is getting more funding and more recognition for the work they
:15:15. > :15:17.do and I think the treatment you get when you come into the world, in
:15:18. > :15:21.maternity wards, and the treatment you get when you leave the world are
:15:22. > :15:25.so important and often don't get the funding or the attention because
:15:26. > :15:31.people get so worried about the idea that withdrawing treatment is
:15:32. > :15:35.somehow cruel and, actually, very often, it's the reverse. Time is
:15:36. > :15:38.tight so a brief thought from you both on the fact that Jeremy Coleman
:15:39. > :15:42.has made it onto the front of the observer with a microphone in his
:15:43. > :15:45.hands speaking to the crowds at Glastonbury. All you have to say
:15:46. > :15:50.about that is could you imagine any Conservative doing that? No, you
:15:51. > :15:53.can't. Desmond Swain in our homburg hat. That tells you all you need to
:15:54. > :15:57.know about what is going on in British politics. Because of his
:15:58. > :16:01.attraction to youth voters particularly. It just underlines it,
:16:02. > :16:09.Jeremy Corbyn superstar as far as Glastonbury is concerned. Yes, it
:16:10. > :16:14.was all Jez, we can, apparently. Time has beaten us, that is it for
:16:15. > :16:18.the papers, thank you to both and a reminder, we look at tomorrow's
:16:19. > :16:23.front pages every evening at 10:40pm on BBC News. Daisy and Peter, go off
:16:24. > :16:25.and do something even more important with the rest of your day. Thank you
:16:26. > :16:28.very much.