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:00:00. > :00:00.immediate word on casualties. It happened in the north-west of the

:00:00. > :00:17.country. We will have more details when we get them. Now it is

:00:18. > :00:28.Hello, and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be

:00:29. > :00:31.With me are are Rob Merrick, who's the deputy political

:00:32. > :00:33.editor at The Independent, and the author and broadcaster,

:00:34. > :00:38.The Telegraph leads with the ongoing Brexit talks, saying British

:00:39. > :00:39.tourists will be guaranteed free health treatment in

:00:40. > :00:43.Brexit negotiations also dominate the front page of The Times,

:00:44. > :00:45.saying thousands of European criminals could face deportation

:00:46. > :00:50.The i features a picture of workers removing cladding

:00:51. > :00:54.from a high-rise building with the headline "100% unsafe".

:00:55. > :00:57.The FT focusses on the Italian banking system, saying the country

:00:58. > :00:59.has set aside billions of euros worth of taxpayers money

:01:00. > :01:04."Shocking Scale of Migrant Problem" is the headline

:01:05. > :01:09.The Guardian leads with yesterday's cyber attack on parliamentarians,

:01:10. > :01:17.saying the Russian Government is suspected of being involved.

:01:18. > :01:28.So, the Times and the ramifications of us leaving Europe, whether it is

:01:29. > :01:31.soft, hard or medium boil. Foreign criminals to be thrown out after

:01:32. > :01:38.Brexit, it says. At the moment, I assume we cannot do that. It says

:01:39. > :01:41.that in 2015, only 44 criminals from EU countries were repatriated, so

:01:42. > :01:48.this is a great frustration to the Government that they cannot deport

:01:49. > :01:51.more from non-EU countries. I'm sure it would be popular with people if

:01:52. > :01:55.more people could be kicked out. I think this is an attempt to get a

:01:56. > :02:00.cheap, Poplar headline, because this cannot be the big issue when the

:02:01. > :02:07.Government releases the details of what it is going to do tomorrow. --

:02:08. > :02:11.eight popular headline. What really counts is whether they are going to

:02:12. > :02:14.be able to satisfy the EU over whether or not these citizens will

:02:15. > :02:20.have the rights they expect when we leave the EU, and if they do not

:02:21. > :02:23.have the rights they expect and that the EU wants, then Britain will not

:02:24. > :02:33.get very far with Brexit talks. Able may remember on Thursday Theresa May

:02:34. > :02:37.me tweet said that she had made a generous offer, but all we have in

:02:38. > :02:39.front of us here is a tasty headline saying we will be tough on foreign

:02:40. > :02:47.carols. That is not really the issue. -- foreign criminals. It

:02:48. > :02:50.seems unlikely we could be sure of that at this point, and also, it

:02:51. > :02:58.seems kind of strange that the numbers given by the Times, 6000

:02:59. > :03:03.foreign criminals in British jails have served tendencies and are

:03:04. > :03:07.waiting deportation. If they are awaiting deportation, surely we

:03:08. > :03:11.could already deport 6000 people. It is already possible to get rid of

:03:12. > :03:17.them. We may not have yet done it, but it is already an option. And yet

:03:18. > :03:25.the numbers from 2015 are 44, which is a a lot fewer, and I am no expert

:03:26. > :03:29.mathematician, than 6000. This implies to me a failure of process

:03:30. > :03:35.rather than a failure of principle. It comes back to the immigration

:03:36. > :03:45.system. And the Home Office. Who was running that for all those years(?)

:03:46. > :03:54.The scale of it is enormous, then. Even though it is not the most

:03:55. > :03:58.pressing issue, as you said, Rob. Even if it is 13,000 foreign

:03:59. > :04:09.offenders, that is a lot fewer than 3.2 million EU citizens. What I see

:04:10. > :04:13.is the Government getting a favourable headline in tomorrow

:04:14. > :04:16.morning's paper and what really matters tomorrow as are the going to

:04:17. > :04:21.provide finally, after one year, finally provide the detail on the

:04:22. > :04:27.rights servant offered to EU citizens after Brexit. If it does

:04:28. > :04:32.not, they cannot start the trade talks. There is a health care pledge

:04:33. > :04:39.for UK tourists in the Daily Telegraph. Ministers are going to

:04:40. > :04:46.keep paying, and again the seals are a relatively small story. It is

:04:47. > :04:49.likely that when we go on holiday, we can take our cards with us, and

:04:50. > :04:53.if it were to be injured on holiday in Belgium or Portugal, we can go to

:04:54. > :04:58.hospital and be treated for free. In exchange, Belgian or Portuguese

:04:59. > :05:02.tourists who get hurt in the UK would be treated for free. It has

:05:03. > :05:06.been an excellent reciprocal system and of course it should be

:05:07. > :05:11.continued. Lots of people go on holiday, so it makes sense.

:05:12. > :05:20.According to David Davis this morning, on the Andrew Marr

:05:21. > :05:25.programme, he has said the NHS will foot the bill if the EU does not. He

:05:26. > :05:30.has now been derided for saying he will come from eyes if the EU will

:05:31. > :05:36.not. It is only ?155 million. That is not much in the scale of the tens

:05:37. > :05:43.of million pounds that are being talked about in terms of Britain's

:05:44. > :05:47.divorce bill. That is not very much money. I would like to have it

:05:48. > :05:52.myself, but it will not make much difference to the negotiations. This

:05:53. > :05:55.is one of the many things people realised the day after the

:05:56. > :06:01.referendum but would happen. Access to free health care abroad. Another

:06:02. > :06:06.example would be the likelihood that we will have to pay to visit the

:06:07. > :06:10.rest of the EU in future. Perhaps only a very small amount, but

:06:11. > :06:17.certainly we will have to go through checks, so we will lose the ease of

:06:18. > :06:20.travel that we currently have. The benefits that we have taken for

:06:21. > :06:25.granted from EU membership, we will lose those. But it is most likely

:06:26. > :06:29.that we can reach an agreement with the EU that we can continue this

:06:30. > :06:33.system of subsidised health care for tourists and travellers. But in the

:06:34. > :06:36.end, it will come down to negotiations if they ever get

:06:37. > :06:40.properly started. But that will come down to how many people come here

:06:41. > :06:44.and claim treatment on the NHS and how many others go there and turn an

:06:45. > :06:55.ankle, and I suppose we will have to wait and see what those numbers are.

:06:56. > :07:03.Most people take out travel insurance anyway, but that is my own

:07:04. > :07:10.fault for running half marathons abroad. Better shoes? I have the

:07:11. > :07:17.feet of a dead man. I am glad they are under the table. I do not want

:07:18. > :07:24.to think about them. I wish I could not. Let's stay with the Telegraph,

:07:25. > :07:29.the Government faces a six under million pounds bill after fire

:07:30. > :07:33.checks at flats. -- a ?600 million bill. That doesn't sound that

:07:34. > :07:39.unreasonable when you think of the scale of the problem. I think this

:07:40. > :07:43.is an extrapolation. They have checked 60 blocks of flats and 60

:07:44. > :07:48.have been found to be unsafe, which is in many ways, 100%. We think

:07:49. > :07:52.there are 600 blocks of flats around the country which needs to be

:07:53. > :07:56.tested, that is what Downing Street told us last week, and thus we are

:07:57. > :08:00.suggesting that if all 600 continue in the vein of the first 60, it will

:08:01. > :08:07.be ?1 million power block of flats. It is a huge sum of money, but not

:08:08. > :08:11.relatively to people burning to death, so I think we are going to

:08:12. > :08:14.have to just pay it. But that is just for the cladding. There are

:08:15. > :08:26.other issues, sprinklers, fire doors, five extinctions. -- fire

:08:27. > :08:34.extinguishers. Local councils have been given no assurances about

:08:35. > :08:40.sprinklers and fire extinguishers. The fire in Lakanal House in

:08:41. > :08:45.Camberwell. Yes, after that, the coroner recommended that sprinklers

:08:46. > :08:52.be installed in all high-rise flats, but she only encourage that, it's to

:08:53. > :08:56.not become law. The Government sent a very weak letter to local

:08:57. > :09:00.authorities, said we had done that, and no sprinklers were installed. In

:09:01. > :09:06.the wake of the Grenfell Tower fire, I expect they will be. I am

:09:07. > :09:10.surprised to see the Telegraph is focusing on the figure here, whether

:09:11. > :09:17.it is ?600 million or less, there are hundreds of high-rise flats and

:09:18. > :09:21.tens of thousands of people around the country living in circumstances

:09:22. > :09:24.where there are do not know who are potential death traps and future

:09:25. > :09:28.infernos. I think all of that is, at the moment, far more important than

:09:29. > :09:36.whatever the bill will be down the line. This is just the figure for

:09:37. > :09:40.high-rise blocks. And then potentially it will also have to be

:09:41. > :09:45.paid for other public buildings. Yes, hospitals and schools, and the

:09:46. > :09:50.Telegraph has the rather unnerving paragraph that plans to test every

:09:51. > :09:55.hospital in the wake of Grenfell Tower has not yet happened because

:09:56. > :09:57.they do not have resources to check every hospital, presumably because

:09:58. > :10:01.they are looking at every block of flats in the country. Last week we

:10:02. > :10:09.were told that they could test 100 tower blocks a day, so far 60, so

:10:10. > :10:16.slightly fewer than 100 per day. That is a huge issue. The Government

:10:17. > :10:20.said they would test 100 a day, 600 blocks, that is it, 60s, and the

:10:21. > :10:24.tests started last Tuesday. They should have nearly finished, so what

:10:25. > :10:31.is going on? And if the defined problems in schools and hospitals,

:10:32. > :10:38.what will happen? Good news for these schools is that it is nearly

:10:39. > :10:41.the end of term, so they only have a couple more weeks. Slightly more

:10:42. > :10:47.difficult for hospitals which they cannot just evacuate for a period of

:10:48. > :10:54.time. The i is looking at this story and seeing that all of the cladding

:10:55. > :10:59.that has been tested so far has been judged to be unsafe. And of course,

:11:00. > :11:03.the Camden issue, with hundreds of people who had to leave their homes,

:11:04. > :11:07.they are uncertain how long they are going to be in temporary

:11:08. > :11:14.accommodation. A friend of mine has been evacuated, he has been on the

:11:15. > :11:21.news all week, because he is April active agitator, chair of the

:11:22. > :11:26.residents association, and he has been evacuated. He was moved out on

:11:27. > :11:32.Friday night, and he has no idea when he has grown to be back home.

:11:33. > :11:35.It is terrifying, I have no idea what he can even aim for as a kind

:11:36. > :11:39.of wish. Do you just wish that they will fix it in a matter of weeks and

:11:40. > :11:45.you can with back on? Will be just fixed the cladding, or other issues

:11:46. > :11:48.which rendered it urgently unsafe? I do not know, he does not know. And

:11:49. > :11:55.some people have chosen even now not to leave. About one in five in the

:11:56. > :11:59.Camden flats. Not everyone has somewhere else to go. We say choose,

:12:00. > :12:03.but if you do not have anywhere else to go, and you have a pet and you're

:12:04. > :12:10.not allowed to stay in a hotel with it, what are you supposed to do? I

:12:11. > :12:14.am astonished by this headline, "One hundred percent unsafe," because I

:12:15. > :12:21.sat through a couple of interminable briefings at Westminster last week,

:12:22. > :12:24.we were told that many of the towers did not have the suspicious type of

:12:25. > :12:30.cladding. We were very much led away from the idea that a huge number of

:12:31. > :12:34.tower blocks were going to have the same similar disastrous cladding

:12:35. > :12:40.that we had Grenfell Tower. And yet 60 tests come back, and all 60 have

:12:41. > :12:42.failed. I find that astonishing. I think local authorities were

:12:43. > :12:46.encouraged to put in samples from the cases they were most worried

:12:47. > :12:49.about first, so it is possible they have done the most dangerous ones

:12:50. > :12:54.first and the less injuries once later on, but as time goes on, it

:12:55. > :12:58.does appear that we have been looking at a public health scandal

:12:59. > :13:03.that only skilled because not have imagined when the tower block first

:13:04. > :13:14.caught fire. Let's finish with The Sun this hour.

:13:15. > :13:24.An eight foot shark at the beach in Majorca. It is only a shark! It is

:13:25. > :13:32.not like it is a great white shark. What type of shark is it, Natalie? I

:13:33. > :13:37.watched Jaws three days ago, but I'm not an expert. I watched it on a big

:13:38. > :13:47.screen. It was a delightful night out. Anyway... Shark attacks not

:13:48. > :13:54.withstanding. There was virtually no shark attacks, but there was all the

:13:55. > :13:57.joy of watching people who have not seen Jaws before jumping in the

:13:58. > :14:02.hour. There were children they are, and they were entranced by the idea

:14:03. > :14:15.that people could smoke in a hospital. It seems mad. I do not

:14:16. > :14:22.think it is a man eating shark. Would you like to try to find out? I

:14:23. > :14:27.wouldn't. Normally when people see a shark, people punch it on the nose,

:14:28. > :14:40.because it was in a survival book to do that. Sharks are much maligned,

:14:41. > :14:43.and the? Hundreds of thousands get killed every year. Yes, and they are

:14:44. > :14:53.beautiful machines designed for living forwards and swimming. When

:14:54. > :15:01.the people, people are up in arms but it is because they are in the

:15:02. > :15:06.water. You would scarper if you saw that found in the water. You just

:15:07. > :15:16.make sure that someone is closer than you are. Oh, that is nice(!)

:15:17. > :15:21.When people go through the forest, and there is a lying, one puts on

:15:22. > :15:25.his trainers, and one says, you will never out on that line, and he says,

:15:26. > :15:31.I don't need to, I just need to run faster than you. Remind me never to

:15:32. > :15:36.go on holiday with Rob Merrick. I would like you to go away and find

:15:37. > :15:41.out how common sharks are. Find out how common sharks of that size in

:15:42. > :15:46.the Mediterranean around Majorca are, please. I will do that. We will

:15:47. > :15:59.see you at 11:30pm when you have done your research.

:16:00. > :16:03.Another Martina Cole thriller, another number one bestseller.