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:00:16. > :00:17.Hello, and welcome to our look at the Sunday papers.

:00:18. > :00:19.With me are the journalist and broadcaster James Rampton

:00:20. > :00:21.and Prashant Rao, deputy Europe business editor at

:00:22. > :00:34.The Mail on Sunday, which claims that the Prime Minister Theresa May

:00:35. > :00:37.is considering a dramatic U-turn on university tuition fees

:00:38. > :00:40.to attract younger voters to the Conservative Party.

:00:41. > :00:42.The Observer reports a Tory revolt against public sector cuts,

:00:43. > :00:44.suggesting Theresa May is facing pressure from within her cabinet,

:00:45. > :00:47.who are demanding a radical overhaul of state funding

:00:48. > :00:58.The Sunday Telegraph reports claims that Number 10 has told business

:00:59. > :01:00.leaders that Theresa May could walk out of Brexit talks over

:01:01. > :01:06.The Express reports that British fishermen will be given exclusive

:01:07. > :01:08.rights to a 12-mile zone around the coastline under

:01:09. > :01:13.And "Rogue SAS unit accused of executing civilians"

:01:14. > :01:21.is the headline on the cover of The Sunday Times.

:01:22. > :01:24.Easy thing to do, the easy options or the easy achievements, targets

:01:25. > :01:27.are there, because all they have to do is make the same number of

:01:28. > :01:30.chances they have made in both Test matches and put them away and cut

:01:31. > :01:32.the penalties out and they have got every chance to carry off what would

:01:33. > :01:34.be a monumental victory in the series.

:01:35. > :01:36.So, let us begin then, and the Sunday Telegraph. Number Ten

:01:37. > :01:39.plotting a Brexit walk outment do we think they really are? I am

:01:40. > :01:42.fascinated by this, it really hiss the tightrope that Number Ten is

:01:43. > :01:48.walking over Brexit negotiations, this story is interesting, it talks

:01:49. > :01:53.about how this is something for domestic consumption, you are doing

:01:54. > :01:57.these negotiations not just in a negotiating room in Brussels or in

:01:58. > :02:00.London, European ministers will be briefing against you, pro Brexit,

:02:01. > :02:05.anti-Brexit MPs will be briefing against you, you have to stage these

:02:06. > :02:09.dramatic things like walking out of negotiation in which you have 18

:02:10. > :02:15.months to complete. ... It is probably not a good idea in advance

:02:16. > :02:22.to say you will lose out. It loses the element of surprise. I travel a

:02:23. > :02:25.lot for my Josh I was in Stockholm and met an Italian journalist, he

:02:26. > :02:28.said you do realised you have become a laughing stock, in the UK, the way

:02:29. > :02:34.you have behaved, and he said and this was a terrible insult. He said

:02:35. > :02:38.it is worse than Sylvio Berlusconi what you have done. I can't

:02:39. > :02:44.disagree. If you read the foreign press they say what is the UK doing?

:02:45. > :02:48.If Mrs May is threatening that, they will be laughing, she has no legs to

:02:49. > :02:52.stand on. She doesn't even have a Conservative majority Government, so

:02:53. > :02:56.he is going to Europe, throwing her weight round, talking about being a

:02:57. > :02:59.bloody difficult woman and you you, you know, no deal is better than a

:03:00. > :03:05.bad deal. They are saying fine, off you go then. They have all the cards

:03:06. > :03:13.now, so... And her points are saying with the DUP negotiations, she ended

:03:14. > :03:17.up giving them a billion pounds. Now other ministers are haggling over

:03:18. > :03:21.that money for schools and education and it was no problem to give them

:03:22. > :03:29.that and fly them back on the RAF flight from London to Belfast, mine,

:03:30. > :03:34.don't get me started! Also, on the sort of post-Brexit Sunday express

:03:35. > :03:39.saying no foreign fishing in our water, Brexit bonus, Britain takes

:03:40. > :03:45.back control of the coasts. So this is other countries not able to fish

:03:46. > :03:49.within 12 miles of UK... We shouldn't overstate the economic

:03:50. > :03:52.impact this will have. It doesn't account for a huge amount of the

:03:53. > :03:56.fishing that happens in British water, we are talking about single

:03:57. > :04:00.digits. It is a significant move. I don't mean to down play it. We

:04:01. > :04:04.should put it in the proper context. It is an interesting move. It is

:04:05. > :04:08.parliament of the broader Brexit negotiation. It won't happen

:04:09. > :04:13.tomorrow, but as and when it happens, this is all the various,

:04:14. > :04:19.you know, as we were talking about in the EU election, so the Brexit

:04:20. > :04:23.cap page -- campaign, there is is a litany of... This was signed in

:04:24. > :04:29.1964, before Britain joined the... This is one of those things where

:04:30. > :04:34.there is all kinds of agreement in which the eau is directly or

:04:35. > :04:39.otherwise involved. I cannot wrap my head round the sheer size of what is

:04:40. > :04:45.going to happen. I would say the Sunday Express is a great flag waver

:04:46. > :04:51.for Brexit, this is classic symbolic Britannia rules the waves territory,

:04:52. > :04:55.you know, the seas, it is a very important emblem for our power we

:04:56. > :05:00.once had which we no longer have, the way in which we dominated --

:05:01. > :05:03.dominated the world, for certain people, the resonance of that is

:05:04. > :05:07.still very important, and to say we are going to take back control of

:05:08. > :05:11.the 12 mile zone, it sound great but you are right, the numbers aren't

:05:12. > :05:16.going to add up to much. Symbolically it is important. This

:05:17. > :05:22.story that seems to be bubbling away there is a volt within the Tory

:05:23. > :05:25.party, within the Cabinet, even, against austerity, really, in the

:05:26. > :05:30.wake of the election, what do you make of that? We are talking earlier

:05:31. > :05:35.a billion pounds here or there, sooner or later we are talking about

:05:36. > :05:39.real money. Some serious ministries are asking for more money. We are

:05:40. > :05:44.talking about health, education, Damian Green was quoted last night

:05:45. > :05:47.in which he said we might have to rethink the tuition fee situation

:05:48. > :05:52.and university, I can't remember which paper say that is estimated to

:05:53. > :05:56.be ?8 billion. This is a lot of money along with the 1 billion for

:05:57. > :06:00.Northern Ireland, all of a sudden we are talking about serious... From a

:06:01. > :06:04.Tory strategy point of view, is this the best way of deflating Labour and

:06:05. > :06:10.Jeremy Corbyn, if they do ease up on austerity, do they take some of the

:06:11. > :06:14.wind out of Labour's sails The Observer has an interesting poll in

:06:15. > :06:17.which they were talking about April 19th, only about a little more than

:06:18. > :06:23.two months ago. Theresa May had a net positive... A lifetiming a. Plus

:06:24. > :06:26.21, Jeremy Corbyn negative 35. Now, Theresa May negative 20, Jeremy

:06:27. > :06:33.Corbyn plus four and Labour has a six point lead in the polls. The

:06:34. > :06:37.Tories in their arrogant way, thought you know, we will call an

:06:38. > :06:41.election and have 150 seat majority, they didn't take account of the fact

:06:42. > :06:44.that Corbyn was a brilliant campaigner and Theresa May was a

:06:45. > :06:50.terrible campaigner, so, the result of that is that they are struggling

:06:51. > :06:55.now, to keep up, that the wind is in Corbyn's sails to use another

:06:56. > :06:59.nautical reference and you go to cricket matches, people are chanting

:07:00. > :07:03.oh Jeremy Corbyn, Glastonbury, he has become a cult, and the Tories

:07:04. > :07:08.seem completely lost how to respond that. I have got three daughters who

:07:09. > :07:12.are students and you know, they said they didn't have to talk to Tory

:07:13. > :07:15.students very long to convince them to vote Labour because he was

:07:16. > :07:19.offering to remove tuition fees, I mean that is an obvious thing to do.

:07:20. > :07:24.You are right Damian Green is flagging up that even that flagship

:07:25. > :07:29.Tory policy may be ending. Let talks about that since you nicely take us

:07:30. > :07:34.on to that. The tuition fee. Are they really plans, the Mail on

:07:35. > :07:38.Sunday saying Theresa May ready to consider a dramatic U-turn on

:07:39. > :07:41.tuition fees to woo young voters back, but surely that won't mean

:07:42. > :07:49.scrapping tuition fees in the way Labour have suggested. Everything is

:07:50. > :07:52.up for grab, it seems like it. You know, there have been several

:07:53. > :07:56.interviews that show the result of the election mean the Government is

:07:57. > :07:59.not the strongest position. People coming for money, maybe it leads to

:08:00. > :08:03.vote. We don't know which one could, Theresa May, leave aside the Brexit

:08:04. > :08:07.thing, which is already complicated, domestically this is is a whole host

:08:08. > :08:11.of issues in which every minister must be banging down the door asking

:08:12. > :08:17.for Mormon. It shows the power of the youth vote in the election,

:08:18. > :08:20.which was, had never really been harnessed before, young voters

:08:21. > :08:25.registering and voting Labour. What was fascinating in the EU referendum

:08:26. > :08:30.only 40% of 18-25-year-olds voted. In the last election, a couple of

:08:31. > :08:32.weeks ago it was 70%, and people like my daughters and their

:08:33. > :08:36.generation were getting out the vote. They are calling themselves

:08:37. > :08:44.generation vote, social media was important. Labour did lots of funny

:08:45. > :08:48.memes and pictures they were putting o to encourage young people to

:08:49. > :08:51.engage. It is great the next generation is becoming involved with

:08:52. > :08:56.politics because somebody has to take over this country, when we move

:08:57. > :09:01.on, and I do think this all plays into the total lack of authority

:09:02. > :09:06.that Theresa May has now, I mean people might complain we didn't vote

:09:07. > :09:10.for the removal of tuition fee, we didn't vote for the DUP to get ?1.5

:09:11. > :09:15.million. As you say all bets are off now and they will do anything to

:09:16. > :09:21.cling to power. The power of that youth vote, tuition fees is a

:09:22. > :09:25.crucial issue. We can recall about 2025 were tuition fees were raised

:09:26. > :09:30.or implemented for British voter, round then, that was a hugely

:09:31. > :09:34.controversial policy at the time and there were so many defectors from

:09:35. > :09:40.Labour rank, this is a political issue that has destroyed political

:09:41. > :09:47.careers. Nick Clegg, what is he remember for? A U-turn. And for

:09:48. > :09:51.2,000 odd Sheffield Hallam students rising up against him and make his

:09:52. > :09:56.lose his seats. You are right, that is what he is most remember for,

:09:57. > :10:04.betraying Liberal Democrats about student tuition fees. Revenge is a

:10:05. > :10:09.dish served cold. Let us move on the something different. The Sunday

:10:10. > :10:16.Times have a story about a rogue SAS unit accused of executing sieve rans

:10:17. > :10:22.in Afghanistan. We have to say the Ministry of Defence has said that

:10:23. > :10:28.they have disputeded this story, we have to make that clear, but the

:10:29. > :10:33.Sunday Times has some interesting allegations, that have been

:10:34. > :10:39.apparently compiled by the Royal Military Police, about certain

:10:40. > :10:45.things that the SAS was doing in Afghanistan, they talk about special

:10:46. > :10:51.forces soldiers are alleged to have handcuffed and shot prisoners. It

:10:52. > :10:55.did not need to be investigated. This is really remarkable. We will

:10:56. > :10:58.have to see the result as it comes through, according to the Sunday

:10:59. > :11:05.Times it has been curtailed, there is not much we can... It is a sort

:11:06. > :11:14.of operation, a police investigation called Operation North Moore It has

:11:15. > :11:18.been going on for a year half from a secure bunker in Cornwall. It is

:11:19. > :11:24.amazing it has got to this degree and not many of us knew about it. I

:11:25. > :11:28.absolutely agree Prashant, it could be serious, for the MoD and the

:11:29. > :11:32.suggestions are they want to just make it go away, because if any of

:11:33. > :11:36.these allegations, and they are only allegations are proven, it is

:11:37. > :11:41.catastrophic for the army's credibility. Sunday Times have got a

:11:42. > :11:44.story about parents facing a ?60 fine if their kids are late for

:11:45. > :11:54.school. Is that fair snuff? Enough? This is a case of do as I say not do

:11:55. > :12:00.as I do. First of all, the story quotes the government's behaviour

:12:01. > :12:06.Zaha. Who knew he existed. Several councils are sort of canning the

:12:07. > :12:11.idea of fines if pupils are late but the behaviours are Tom Bennett

:12:12. > :12:15.admits he was late for school every day studying for A-levels. I would

:12:16. > :12:19.have been several thousand pounds in debt to the school when my children

:12:20. > :12:23.were growing up. It very hard to get three children out of the house,

:12:24. > :12:29.well, is not but I am saying it is, but what scares me is the possible

:12:30. > :12:35.sanctions they are going to bring in, make children collect litter,

:12:36. > :12:40.remove chewing Garry Monk gum or mop classroom floor, measures used in

:12:41. > :12:45.South Korea, maybe we should be copying it! I am sure no-one is late

:12:46. > :12:52.for school in South Korea. Back to the Sundayel graph. They have a

:12:53. > :12:57.Grenfell council, the Government warning Kensington and Chelsea

:12:58. > :13:03.Council, couldn't taken over by commissioners, and it has been so

:13:04. > :13:09.criticised. We were talking about this earlier, this is a tragedy,

:13:10. > :13:15.everyone is right to say so, but, the response to what happened has

:13:16. > :13:19.been astonish, the kind of thing, this Tory says, that some of the

:13:20. > :13:26.families were evacuated, they were, charged rent on their flats. Are Are

:13:27. > :13:33.still being charged rent. Etch though there is no hot water. I Noah

:13:34. > :13:38.to say. I think I reflects badly on the sense of entitlement certain

:13:39. > :13:40.political leaders have. I mean, I deplored the manner in which

:13:41. > :13:46.Nicholas Paget-Brown resigned yesterday. He got the resignation

:13:47. > :13:49.wrong, he was so tone deaf, completely grudging he seemed to me

:13:50. > :13:54.and without dignity and he used the phrase which may have been provided

:13:55. > :13:59.by lawyers perceived fail, you know my perception of that phrase is it

:14:00. > :14:03.is really offensive to the victims and their family, those may well be

:14:04. > :14:08.the same lawyers that gave him the great advice not the let the press

:14:09. > :14:10.into the Cabinet meeting on Thursday, which ultimately

:14:11. > :14:15.precipitating his downfall. There has been no council in the country

:14:16. > :14:20.could have coped with the disaster on this scale. That may be true.

:14:21. > :14:24.People have cited Camden Council. The leader has been out and about,

:14:25. > :14:28.knocking on the doors of the people that they were evacuating, making

:14:29. > :14:31.her presence felt. Nobody has seen Nicholas Paget-Brown and his cabinet

:14:32. > :14:35.seem to have gone into hiding. I don't know if that is true. That is

:14:36. > :14:40.the reports that no-one has seen him and in this world it is all about

:14:41. > :14:45.perceptions and image, and the perception is they have failed

:14:46. > :14:52.miserably. OK, let us go on to rugby. Well, are you rugby people? I

:14:53. > :14:58.am a massive fan. You will have to take this over. I had five friend

:14:59. > :15:04.over yesterday morning, and my wife, who had had a bit of a late-night on

:15:05. > :15:08.Friday and my youngest daughter were upstairs and by 8.45, ten minutes

:15:09. > :15:13.after kick off, they had been woken up three times by our shouting. In

:15:14. > :15:17.the end they came down to watch, they said o we can't sleep through

:15:18. > :15:21.this. The shouting, all over the country for people watching was

:15:22. > :15:28.amazing, because the, to give you some of the stats, the All Blacks

:15:29. > :15:34.have not lost at home since 2009. They were playing with a man down.

:15:35. > :15:39.He deserved to go off, he did a shoulder charge on a defenceless

:15:40. > :15:44.man. I think it is a one of the great British and Irish victories

:15:45. > :15:49.and oh my gosh f you thought the shouting was loud yesterday, wait

:15:50. > :15:54.till next Saturday, the decider. He is going to come round to your house

:15:55. > :16:00.and watch it with you. It sound like a good party. I think I am going to

:16:01. > :16:07.come. It is only tea and cake we have. The doctor won't see you now,

:16:08. > :16:12.family doctors will be able to turn away all but life-or-death patients.

:16:13. > :16:16.It goes backs to something the Health Secretary said where the NHS

:16:17. > :16:20.needs, seems to need more money. I everything is stretched, everything

:16:21. > :16:25.seems to be, you know, increasingly under pressure and so, NHS practises

:16:26. > :16:29.may have to think in more creative ways how best to allocate resources

:16:30. > :16:34.until the funding situation is resolved. What it indicates to me,

:16:35. > :16:39.not only the people are fed up with austerity, the minutesters are fed

:16:40. > :16:44.up with it. They are getting criticism -- ministers. Their

:16:45. > :16:50.services are failing and they are saying, they may well be say we are

:16:51. > :16:57.giving the DUP one billion, why can't we give to it the NHS and

:16:58. > :17:04.school? Nurses get a 1% pay rise, that is outrageous, a what they do

:17:05. > :17:09.is astonishing, their pay is capped is disgraceful. If one of buy

:17:10. > :17:15.Borough Councils of this election disaster for the Tories is they lift

:17:16. > :17:21.austerity hooray. Andy Murray, we have done rugby, can we do tennis? I

:17:22. > :17:25.am not a huge fan but there is few things better than the English

:17:26. > :17:31.summer for sport. Cricket, tennis. Do you think Andy Murray can do it

:17:32. > :17:36.again. He has a bad hip. My worry is he overturns the idea of the great

:17:37. > :17:40.British loser, we have prided ourselves on being gallant loser,

:17:41. > :17:46.and now he is winning, I mean, our heads are so messed up. It is the

:17:47. > :17:53.hope that kills us. Good luck to Sir Andy, thank you to both of you.

:17:54. > :18:00.Many thanks for be with us. We will take a look at tomorrow's front

:18:01. > :18:11.pages every evening during the week at 10.40 here on BBC News.