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:00:15. > :00:18.Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be

:00:19. > :00:23.With me are Broadcaster and Campaigner, Henry Bonsu

:00:24. > :00:29.and the former Trader Minister, Lord Digby Jones.

:00:30. > :00:32.A warm welcome to both of you, thank you for being with us.

:00:33. > :00:37.Tomorrow's front pages, starting with

:00:38. > :00:39.the Telegraph reports of a gender pay gap within the BBC,

:00:40. > :00:41.as the salary of the corporation's top-earning presenters

:00:42. > :00:46.The Mail also has that story, saying the corporation will name

:00:47. > :00:52.nearly 100 stars who are paid more than the Prime Minister.

:00:53. > :00:55.The I also leads on BBC pay, it says two-thirds of the broadcasters'

:00:56. > :01:03.The Guardian reports that Theresa May has been told to sack

:01:04. > :01:05.the saboteurs within her cabinet, by the Conservatives influential

:01:06. > :01:16.The Times reports on what it calls "rip-off credit card fees",

:01:17. > :01:19.which are set to be banned, which is says could save shoppers

:01:20. > :01:23.The Metro reports on an ongoing court case involving a police

:01:24. > :01:25.helicopter allegedly used to film people having sex

:01:26. > :01:35.The Express leads on a study that claims that avoiding the so-called

:01:36. > :01:37.middle-aged spread dramatically reduces the risk of diabetes.

:01:38. > :01:39.And the FT examines today's unexpected drop in inflation,

:01:40. > :01:47.which saw the pound slightly fall against the dollar on the news.

:01:48. > :01:53.We will talk in more detail about some of those stories, but let's

:01:54. > :02:02.kick off with the Telegraph, Henry, the BBC's gender pay gap revealed.

:02:03. > :02:05.The BBC is a beacon of equality and diversity, but it appears that when

:02:06. > :02:16.it comes to the pay differentials between men and women, it is failing

:02:17. > :02:21.badly. Out of the 96 top names are earning more than the Prime

:02:22. > :02:26.Minister, more than ?150,000, 62, and two thirds are male. This is an

:02:27. > :02:30.embarrassment to the BBC, which doesn't want to see itself as a

:02:31. > :02:37.sexist organisation, and is preparing itself for a backlash from

:02:38. > :02:41.female presenters in current affairs, sport, entertainment and

:02:42. > :02:46.drama. But also from the public, it is public money, we pay the licence

:02:47. > :02:51.fee. It does say that the BBC needs to go further and fast on issues of

:02:52. > :02:56.gender, but it is certainly doing better than other broadcasters. It

:02:57. > :03:03.is doing better, but because the BBC feels it owns... The public feels it

:03:04. > :03:06.owns the BBC, that is why it has to respond in ways that Sky, ITV and

:03:07. > :03:13.other broadcasters don't feel they have two. It employs more people. In

:03:14. > :03:19.its heyday, 28,000, now it is down to 19,000. It is under pressure on

:03:20. > :03:22.pay, race, diversity, Lenny Henry was in polymer today saying we need

:03:23. > :03:29.better targets not just for people in front of the camera, but behind

:03:30. > :03:35.the camera. -- was in Parliament today. A lot of women in this,

:03:36. > :03:41.people will look at them Brown, I am is experienced, why is he paid more

:03:42. > :03:46.than a? Is this a debate worth having? I applaud the BBC, for

:03:47. > :03:51.instance, of bringing it on for us to talk about tonight. That is a

:03:52. > :03:58.real quality decision to make, look at yourselves in public, and weld

:03:59. > :04:01.on. -- well done. Some of the matters will be lost in translation,

:04:02. > :04:05.don't let the facts get in the way of a good story. It is fair to say,

:04:06. > :04:09.let me pick some names, if you have John Humphrys or Hugh Edwards, that

:04:10. > :04:13.sort of quality, and experience, and a long time in the job, different

:04:14. > :04:19.parts of what you would call journalism, I can see why that by, I

:04:20. > :04:22.don't know what he is paid, I will find out tomorrow. But I can see why

:04:23. > :04:28.he is going to be paid a lot more than a female, quality journalist

:04:29. > :04:33.doing this job, but frankly, hasn't been around as long. I understand

:04:34. > :04:38.that. It is a shame he is a bloke because it defeats the argument, but

:04:39. > :04:43.that is a different argument. It gives rise to another argument,

:04:44. > :04:48.because a female presenter of the vintage of John Humphrys, you won't

:04:49. > :04:53.find her presenting the Today programme. The real test will be,

:04:54. > :04:56.two things, one is to people on the sofa in the morning, breakfast

:04:57. > :04:59.television, both of the same vintage and experience. If we find out

:05:00. > :05:05.tomorrow that the bloke is earning more than the woman, that is

:05:06. > :05:09.dreadful. The second is, I am more of the bring her back and ignore her

:05:10. > :05:13.age campaign, the BBC did have a tradition of pension in off women of

:05:14. > :05:18.a certain age. Let's show you the Daily Mail, which has a similar

:05:19. > :05:28.story. A panic at the BBC. Should other organisations, as well as the

:05:29. > :05:35.BBC, tell us about who they play. Other organisations, Sky, ITV... I

:05:36. > :05:40.can remember during the MP pay, I remember question Time, which was

:05:41. > :05:44.devoted to MPs expenses for two weeks on the trot. One member of the

:05:45. > :05:49.audience would say, what are you paid? He said it was not their

:05:50. > :05:57.business. But from tomorrow, it is my business. But only for those over

:05:58. > :06:03.?150,000. Ajax set that. To be fair, your question was about Sky and ITV,

:06:04. > :06:08.I don't pay their wages. The problem is, these are

:06:09. > :06:13.organisations that exist in a country which professes that it is a

:06:14. > :06:17.beacon of human rights, tolerance, diversity, and all these

:06:18. > :06:21.organisations have signed up to edicts on equality and diversity. By

:06:22. > :06:26.the way, there is something very special about this organisation in

:06:27. > :06:30.the terms of the fact that it is not a state broadcaster, but it is

:06:31. > :06:34.unique because it is paid by the public but is not a state

:06:35. > :06:40.broadcaster. It is being forced to. But it is. There are quite a few

:06:41. > :06:45.broadcasters in the Western world that won't be doing this to work.

:06:46. > :06:48.Let's go to the Financial Times, they have this news. It is

:06:49. > :06:54.amazing... For those that don't know, a surprise fall in inflation.

:06:55. > :07:01.We have a good news economic story on the front page of the propaganda

:07:02. > :07:04.sheet called the FT. They are not even saying, despite Brexit. They

:07:05. > :07:10.are not saying it. It is not there. I am pleased and delighted. I am

:07:11. > :07:13.even more delighted for the country, because even though it is a small

:07:14. > :07:19.bit, it means inflation is coming down a bit. Let's wait and see, what

:07:20. > :07:22.is the trend? But it means the immediate thing, the article refers

:07:23. > :07:26.to it, it takes the pressure off them Pankov England to put up

:07:27. > :07:29.interest rates, because how do you deal with increasing inflation? You

:07:30. > :07:35.make money more expensive so that people don't go out, borrow and by.

:07:36. > :07:42.It is good news. Most experts think the trend is going to be upwards of

:07:43. > :07:46.inflation. Of course we have all these forecasters that get it right

:07:47. > :07:54.all the time, don't we... Digby, if it has dropped... You hate it, don't

:07:55. > :07:57.you. It is a current affairs programme, we need to see the other

:07:58. > :08:07.side of the argument. Lots of people still feel squeezed. When they see

:08:08. > :08:13.prices rising, prices of all kinds of things, they will. Spending. 14

:08:14. > :08:19.weeks ago, you buried the British economy. Last week, you were burying

:08:20. > :08:28.the British colony. For once, it says it is alive and well. You

:08:29. > :08:33.say... I agree... 13 months ago, you were on the fence. You didn't know

:08:34. > :08:39.if you would be a Brexiteer. Now you have become a standard bearer of a

:08:40. > :08:47.hard Brexit. A standard-bearer for a country, actually. Even if hard

:08:48. > :08:52.Brexit... I get this feeling that so many people in this public space

:08:53. > :08:59.would love for this economy to fail. Absolutely not! Let's move on, let's

:09:00. > :09:04.move on, Ding, Ding. The Financial Times, rip-off fees are using credit

:09:05. > :09:09.cards. Henry, to be banned. This is something I feel strongly about,

:09:10. > :09:13.because I use my credit card more than cash, especially when it comes

:09:14. > :09:22.to paying off tax bills. Government agencies have been punishing you by

:09:23. > :09:24.levying fees of up to 5%. The Times investigates airlines, travel

:09:25. > :09:29.agents, ticket booking websites, they are the worst offenders. If the

:09:30. > :09:35.ban comes in, it looks like it is going to be. It could save shoppers

:09:36. > :09:42.nearly ?500 million a year on including convenience stores and

:09:43. > :09:45.pubs, they will be banned from doing this. People don't know they are

:09:46. > :09:53.charged until they check out at the end. Actually, Digby, talking about

:09:54. > :09:58.transparency in terms of pay, this is transparency. Looking at this

:09:59. > :10:05.before coming on air, we were in total agreement on this. That's

:10:06. > :10:12.breaking news! If a business is saying, I hope no one finds out.

:10:13. > :10:18.They deserve a kicking. I sincerely hope they will get one. Yeah. Where

:10:19. > :10:24.you have to be concerned is the credit card companies charge the

:10:25. > :10:30.retailer. If they want to pass that on, 0.6% or whatever, that is

:10:31. > :10:35.legitimate. It is different to what it says in the article, where it

:10:36. > :10:39.says, a lot of people justify 2.5% because that is what it costs, they

:10:40. > :10:43.say, for each credit card transaction because it reflects

:10:44. > :10:52.staff and IT system costs. That was a government department, a DVLA in

:10:53. > :11:00.Swansea saying I have made ?42 million. This takes us on smoothly

:11:01. > :11:05.to cars, and the DVLA. Let's talk about Mercedes, according to the

:11:06. > :11:13.Telegraph. 3 million the Sadie 's cars recalled for an emissions fix.

:11:14. > :11:17.Quite a big story. Mercedes based in Germany, so every Mercedes-Benz car

:11:18. > :11:23.sold in this country in the last six years will be recalled, or since

:11:24. > :11:29.2011. This is the fake emissions results scandal. A bit like the

:11:30. > :11:34.Volkswagen scandal, costing millions. People will receive

:11:35. > :11:39.letters to bring their cars in. It will take an hour to change this

:11:40. > :11:49.particular piece of kit and it will be free of charge.

:11:50. > :11:54.I am going to save you here, I think at the moment, they are saying,

:11:55. > :11:59."This kit isn't working in the way we said it would. So can we change

:12:00. > :12:02.it free of charge?" When you said the words, they have been at it,

:12:03. > :12:07.fixing it, that is an allegation as we speak. I am not sure anyone has

:12:08. > :12:20.found them guilty yet. They are being recalled. I have saved you an

:12:21. > :12:27.oil spill. 3 million cars, ... If I was sitting in Woakes Boer, the home

:12:28. > :12:30.of BW comic I would think, why only me? Let's move on to the Cabinet.

:12:31. > :12:38.They have their lovely family photo today. They are happy and smiley. We

:12:39. > :12:44.have all been there. The wedding photograph of auntie Alice, and your

:12:45. > :12:51.mother tells you to smile. That is this grinning together photograph.

:12:52. > :12:56.Of course, at the moment, the government is in disarray, it is all

:12:57. > :12:59.being done in anonymous briefings. The Prime Minister is saying in a

:13:00. > :13:07.bubble, you are all in the frame. Philip Hammond, saying, yes, for

:13:08. > :13:14.your job. It is this constant lampooning of the political class

:13:15. > :13:20.from which I find very refreshing. I am not part of the brittle class,

:13:21. > :13:24.are you? I thought we were both independent -- the political class.

:13:25. > :13:30.What do you think about the rows within the Cabinet? Is it people

:13:31. > :13:35.ganging up on Philip Hammond? It is a lot of people jostling for

:13:36. > :13:41.position. And also disagreeing honestly about Brexit, about

:13:42. > :13:45.austerity. If you Theresa May, you would think, divide and rule. Wait,

:13:46. > :13:51.hold your space, get through the summer recess, and draw their fire.

:13:52. > :13:55.And actually, let the media do what the media do, which is put up

:13:56. > :14:02.rumours all the time and frustrate the opposition into not... Henry,

:14:03. > :14:08.how deep are the divisions? Long-term, they are terminal.

:14:09. > :14:12.Looking at this picture... Terminal for who, the Conservatives? Of the

:14:13. > :14:15.Theresa May? The Conservatives if there is a general election. Define

:14:16. > :14:19.terminal for the Conservatives, do you mean general election? You

:14:20. > :14:26.believe there will be a general election? If there is... In the next

:14:27. > :14:30.two years. He is not alone in thinking that. Why call a general

:14:31. > :14:36.election in the middle of Brexit. It might be taken out of their hands.

:14:37. > :14:37.We will see, like so many issues. Henry, Digby, many thanks to you, as

:14:38. > :14:40.ever. Don't forget you can see the front

:14:41. > :14:44.pages of the papers online It's all there for you,

:14:45. > :15:11.seven days a week at bbc.co.uk. Hello. A change is taking place in

:15:12. > :15:17.our weather. And the change has already been dramatic across some

:15:18. > :15:21.parts of the country, south-west England, especially west Cornwall,

:15:22. > :15:24.torrential rain, vicious thunderstorms, and these storms

:15:25. > :15:29.quite hit and miss, spreading across the southern counties of Britain.

:15:30. > :15:34.Particularly intense storms to the west of London. That is how the

:15:35. > :15:38.lightning looked early on for a weather watcher in Plymouth. As the

:15:39. > :15:42.thunderstorms continued through tonight and into tomorrow, there is

:15:43. > :15:46.the risk of disruption and localised flooding, the BBC local radio

:15:47. > :15:48.station is worth tuning in to to keep up-to-date during breakfast

:15:49. > :15:52.time tomorrow morning. As we go through the rest of the night, the

:15:53. > :15:56.showers and storms moved erratically northwards. Some places will scape

:15:57. > :16:04.as they are dry. Other places will see rain in a short space of time,

:16:05. > :16:09.frequent lightning, and hail. Scotland will stay largely dry.

:16:10. > :16:14.Quite a messy picture tomorrow. Bands of showers and thunderstorms

:16:15. > :16:20.continued to track northwards. Further storms work into North Wales

:16:21. > :16:23.and north-west England later on. All the while, turning soggy across

:16:24. > :16:30.Northern Ireland. At the same time, warmth and nudity in place for in

:16:31. > :16:34.East Anglia -- humidity. 32 degrees, more cloud further west, and across

:16:35. > :16:38.North Wales, perhaps later into North west England as well, further

:16:39. > :16:42.very intense downpours and thunderstorms. There that in mind if

:16:43. > :16:45.you are travelling. Storms across Scotland, very wet in Northern

:16:46. > :16:50.Ireland through the afternoon, the odd flash of lightning here as well.

:16:51. > :16:55.As we go through tomorrow evening, tomorrow night, we will see the

:16:56. > :17:01.various areas of rain, moving eastwards, and eventually, as that

:17:02. > :17:05.happens, and we get into Thursday, we will be left with westerly winds,

:17:06. > :17:10.bringing fresh air. The change in our weather will be complete by this

:17:11. > :17:16.stage. Spells of sunshine and not a bad day on Thursday. Look at the

:17:17. > :17:19.drop in temperatures, 17-22. As we moved out of Thursday into Friday,

:17:20. > :17:25.it looks like wet weather in places, further spells of rain to take us

:17:26. > :17:28.into the weekend. We stick with the cooler, fresher feel.