:00:00. > 3:59:59signing of Brazilian full-back Denilo. He signed for ?26.5 million.
:00:00. > :00:00.That's all the sport now. Hello, and welcome to our look ahead
:00:00. > :00:19.to what the the papers With me are Martin Bentham,
:00:20. > :00:22.home affairs editor at the London Evening Standard,
:00:23. > :00:24.and the journalist and We start with The Observer,
:00:25. > :00:32.which leads with claims that the Brexit Secretary,
:00:33. > :00:35.David Davis, is the preferred choice among Tory members to replace
:00:36. > :00:43.Prime Minister Theresa May. The Sunday Express features a family
:00:44. > :00:47.photograph of Prince Harry and his mother, Diana the Princess
:00:48. > :00:50.of Wales, with the headline The Telegraph has the same story,
:00:51. > :00:54.along with reports that more than 40 female BBC presenters have signed
:00:55. > :00:57.an open letter to the director-general
:00:58. > :01:01.demanding equal pay. The Sunday Times says men and women
:01:02. > :01:05.will be able to change their gender legally without a doctor's diagnosis
:01:06. > :01:11.under government plans. The Star leads with Princes Harry
:01:12. > :01:13.and William's last conversation The royal story also dominates
:01:14. > :01:21.the front of the Mail on Sunday. And ahead of the 20th
:01:22. > :01:23.anniversary of her death, Princes Harry and William pay
:01:24. > :01:38.tribute to their mother Let us begin with that story that is
:01:39. > :01:44.on most of the front pages this morning. The story of Princes
:01:45. > :01:47.William and Harry talking about the death of their mother. You can
:01:48. > :01:53.believe it, 20 years ago now. They've spoken in a documentary. The
:01:54. > :02:01.Sunday Mirror says last call with mum haunts us. It's a poignant
:02:02. > :02:05.picture, isn't it? Yes, the picture is very poignant. It's amazing to
:02:06. > :02:09.see all these pictures of her again after 20 years. It's hard to imagine
:02:10. > :02:15.it's been that long but of course it will have felt that long for her
:02:16. > :02:19.sons. This is one of the elements of the story that the newspapers have
:02:20. > :02:24.focused on, this last phone call that she made to her kids when they
:02:25. > :02:29.were in the middle of playing, and didn't necessarily want to talk to
:02:30. > :02:34.her that day. It's turned out to be their last call. Of course it wasn't
:02:35. > :02:37.our fault and of course anyone who has lost someone will recognise that
:02:38. > :02:45.thing of the last conversation and had you known what you might have
:02:46. > :02:49.said differently. It is what comes across from the coverage that we are
:02:50. > :02:55.seeing in all of the Sunday papers, they've all got something about her,
:02:56. > :03:05.this very, very loving and also very cheeky humorous mother. She really
:03:06. > :03:11.wanted her kids to have fun and to be connected to their emotions, and
:03:12. > :03:16.to experience life in a normal way. She would take them to have burgers,
:03:17. > :03:20.she would take them to the cinema. What did she say? It's all right to
:03:21. > :03:25.be naughty as long as you don't get caught, which is a good life lesson.
:03:26. > :03:30.What do you make of the coverage? I think it's all you just said, and
:03:31. > :03:38.the last element of her being fun. I'm sure there were times when she
:03:39. > :03:41.was stricter! But there are other stories of her apparently pitting
:03:42. > :03:46.sweets down their socks when they went to play football and all those
:03:47. > :03:51.things. It does bring across this warming vision of her as a very
:03:52. > :03:59.engaging, very hands-on, fun mother to be with. And of course, the boys
:04:00. > :04:02.missing her presence and talking about, certainly William has got his
:04:03. > :04:07.children and they are missing her as a grandmother as well. Although he
:04:08. > :04:11.tells the amusing story of thinking what would it be like if she were
:04:12. > :04:14.here, should probably come in at the wrong time and read them up before
:04:15. > :04:19.bath time and disappeared to leave us to put them to bed! Of course
:04:20. > :04:24.they are all very nice stories and it's terribly sad but they lost her
:04:25. > :04:29.in the way that they did. Whatever you think about the royal family,
:04:30. > :04:33.this is two grown men talking openly about their emotions, and also to
:04:34. > :04:40.members of the Royal family, it's quite unusual, isn't it? Yes. I
:04:41. > :04:45.think this cements the shift in style of the Royal family, that
:04:46. > :04:50.these young royals have brought forward. They are much more talking
:04:51. > :04:54.about emotional life. In the past they've talked about mental health
:04:55. > :05:00.issues, and raised that issued a public debate in an important way.
:05:01. > :05:06.Of course, it's a really important thing to do stigmatise the
:05:07. > :05:09.perceptions of mental health. -- do stigmatise the perceptions of mental
:05:10. > :05:14.health. Prince Harry especially has spoken about how difficult the
:05:15. > :05:20.grieving process was. Initially they didn't talk about it but they found
:05:21. > :05:26.it was much better to talk about it and discuss it. I think it is a
:05:27. > :05:31.really useful contribution to society to talk about the grieving
:05:32. > :05:37.process. Especially in the sense that they are public figures. Even
:05:38. > :05:41.when they were children, by definition they were public figures
:05:42. > :05:46.and everything was in the spotlight. Her death was an incredibly massive
:05:47. > :05:52.world event in terms of publicity and attention. It was doubly hard
:05:53. > :05:58.for them to cope with it. He says he's only cried twice since which is
:05:59. > :06:04.quite interesting. Yes, it does bring it back. Another thing is that
:06:05. > :06:08.for a lot of people, my elder daughter was born about two months
:06:09. > :06:13.after her death. The younger generation, those people who were
:06:14. > :06:16.under 25 or perhaps slightly older will only remember her as a figure
:06:17. > :06:20.in history rather than a living person that we can remember her as.
:06:21. > :06:26.It's interesting perhaps for them to understand a bit about her and what
:06:27. > :06:30.she was for the Royal family and for British life in the period before
:06:31. > :06:33.she died. As we say, this story is on the front of almost all of the
:06:34. > :06:39.papers, and many pages inside as well. Let's move on to The Sunday
:06:40. > :06:45.Times. A picture of Prince William and Harry. They actually lead on a
:06:46. > :06:50.different story. The Tories promote right to choose your own sex. Tell
:06:51. > :06:54.us more about this. This is about increasing emphasis on transgender
:06:55. > :06:59.people and, in essence, talking about a reform that happened in 2004
:07:00. > :07:03.to allow you more easily theoretically to change your gender.
:07:04. > :07:07.What the government is looking at here in the consultation is to say
:07:08. > :07:12.the process perhaps needs to be refined further to make it less
:07:13. > :07:18.bureaucratic. There have been some complaints it is too inquisitive and
:07:19. > :07:24.intrusive, and that actually in essence it should be a bit simpler
:07:25. > :07:34.to go through the process and change your gender identity. There are one
:07:35. > :07:38.or two other things here. For example saying that possibly you
:07:39. > :07:44.might be able to class yourself as an ex-on the passport. That might be
:07:45. > :07:49.more tricky overseas where you have to declare whether you are male or
:07:50. > :07:53.female. There may be one to practical issues to look at in terms
:07:54. > :07:58.of this but I think the broad thrust of it is that it makes entire sense
:07:59. > :08:03.for dealing with the difficulty of a fairly small number of people, but a
:08:04. > :08:06.number of people, and making it easier for them to live their lives.
:08:07. > :08:13.Is this an issue that Justine Greening has wanted to get to grips
:08:14. > :08:19.with? This is part of a whole series of moves that she describes as a
:08:20. > :08:24.step forward. After equality for women and the legislation of
:08:25. > :08:30.same-sex marriage in 2013, this is the next phase. And so these
:08:31. > :08:39.transgender reforms are part of a wider policy. She also has the
:08:40. > :08:46.desire to tackle homophobic bullying of children. She is introducing
:08:47. > :08:53.measures that will increase... She's trying to stop the term gay being
:08:54. > :08:59.used as a term of abuse, to taunt schoolchildren. I think that is a
:09:00. > :09:01.really important thing to be doing. Homophobic bullying is still a
:09:02. > :09:08.really big problem in schools. It has gone down but it's still... It's
:09:09. > :09:11.something like 45% of children will still experience that. No child
:09:12. > :09:17.should have to go through that, no child should have two experience
:09:18. > :09:22.that in a school environment which should be safe. There is a
:09:23. > :09:28.correlation as well for children that it affects their mental health.
:09:29. > :09:35.Of course it would. The instances of self harm amongst LGBT children is
:09:36. > :09:41.an acceptably high. Suicides as well. It's really positive move to
:09:42. > :09:46.be taking this as seriously as it seems they intend to be. It is
:09:47. > :09:49.interesting The Sunday Times makes the point that Justine Greening is
:09:50. > :09:52.in a relationship with a woman, whether that informs a policy not
:09:53. > :09:58.but that is according to The Sunday Times. It shouldn't do, should it?
:09:59. > :10:05.Given that one of her colleagues is a gay man and rights in The Mail on
:10:06. > :10:07.Sunday about how the change in legislation and cultural attitudes,
:10:08. > :10:12.which actually is the most important thing. It's what you were talking
:10:13. > :10:19.about with bullying, schools now in general would seek to stop people
:10:20. > :10:23.using those terms, and of course they should do that but the ultimate
:10:24. > :10:31.message is an educational one. If you think about how society has
:10:32. > :10:38.changed, legislation plays one part in it but actually the ultimate need
:10:39. > :10:41.is for societal attitudes to change to make people more tolerant. I
:10:42. > :10:45.think that has happened in general, it needs to go further. You
:10:46. > :10:51.mentioned equality and that brings us on to a topic that has been
:10:52. > :10:54.rumbling on since Wednesday when the BBC announced some of the pay of
:10:55. > :11:00.some of its top presenters. The Sunday Telegraph leads with the
:11:01. > :11:03.story revolves of the BBC women. Rachel, how are they revolting? It
:11:04. > :11:10.must have been quite a difficult week for the BBC. These women,
:11:11. > :11:14.rightly, have put together an open letter to the director general
:11:15. > :11:21.saying you told us that you would sort this out by 2020. Clearly you
:11:22. > :11:25.need to sort it out now. Especially now that the extent of this problem
:11:26. > :11:29.has come to light. I think that's the thing that is so striking and
:11:30. > :11:36.has understandably caused so much anger. It is so extreme. The pay
:11:37. > :11:40.differentials are so stark, and some of the interviews over the last few
:11:41. > :11:47.days and today in The Sunday Times with female presenters saying that
:11:48. > :11:51.we were fobbed off so long, we were told it was fine, but it was being
:11:52. > :11:59.dealt with and we weren't being paid less or much less and actually
:12:00. > :12:04.turned out to be a huge life. -- lie. I hope it is successful. We
:12:05. > :12:11.shouldn't lose sight of the fact this also highlights for the BBC, it
:12:12. > :12:16.seems like decisions are made by a white, male, Oxbridge educated club
:12:17. > :12:22.who are giving each other jobs. That is going to have an impact for women
:12:23. > :12:25.but also for minorities. There is an impact on people from different
:12:26. > :12:30.class backgrounds. Ultimately, it has an impact on the output. The BBC
:12:31. > :12:36.then doesn't represent the society that it's supposed to be serving. I
:12:37. > :12:40.think that is a much bigger problem that should be addressed. Martin,
:12:41. > :12:45.this letter has been signed by some of the biggest names that work for
:12:46. > :12:50.the BBC. People like Clare Balding, Jane Garvey. But in the letter, they
:12:51. > :12:55.also talk about rank and file staff members as well. This isn't just
:12:56. > :13:00.about the people that they see on their TVs and here on the radio, is
:13:01. > :13:04.it? Not at all. I was going to ask you to pay me some money not to ask
:13:05. > :13:09.you what you think about this but you probably aren't paid enough!
:13:10. > :13:17.LAUGHTER That's probably a good job! There is an issue there. They are
:13:18. > :13:22.all paid very well across the board, there is a gender pay gap there but
:13:23. > :13:26.one of my friends who works in the BBC made the point that actually
:13:27. > :13:30.there is a great cliff edge below the ?150,000. A lot of people in the
:13:31. > :13:36.BBC aren't paid very much, so it's not as if money is awash for the
:13:37. > :13:40.lower down... Some people being paid as little as ?18,000. These figures
:13:41. > :13:47.are not typical. There is an issue there as well about proportionality
:13:48. > :13:51.of the pay given to some of the very high earners. You can look at those
:13:52. > :13:56.figures and question whether the so-called marketplace is really
:13:57. > :14:00.forcing those pay levels to the levels they are at, and so on. There
:14:01. > :14:06.is definitely a concern and they need to address the gender issue and
:14:07. > :14:12.perhaps the issue further down the scale, and actually as a mail I
:14:13. > :14:16.would say any rank and file man who isn't part of this favoured group
:14:17. > :14:23.can probably forget any chance of a pay rise for the next 5-10 years!
:14:24. > :14:30.They may then know how the women have felt for quite some time!
:14:31. > :14:37.LAUGHTER Let's move on to The Observer. Normal service resumed,
:14:38. > :14:42.they've got politics as their lead. Rachel, Tory members turn to David
:14:43. > :14:46.Davis in battle to succeed May. It appears David Davis the Brexit
:14:47. > :14:51.Secretary is ahead in a party survey, what is this survey? This is
:14:52. > :14:57.obviously to replace Theresa May, when? That is the big question,
:14:58. > :15:03.when. This is a survey of 1000 Tory members. This is rank and file
:15:04. > :15:07.Conservative members. David Davis came out the favourite, but he only
:15:08. > :15:11.had one fifth of the party supporting him. After that was Boris
:15:12. > :15:17.Johnson. In third place, Jacob Rees-Mogg. Maybe Mogg mania isn't
:15:18. > :15:23.going to be the thing it was tipped to be. There is no overwhelming
:15:24. > :15:28.support for anybody and that is the problem for the Conservatives. They
:15:29. > :15:31.have a leader who has been so damaged, she's lost all credibility
:15:32. > :15:37.in the election, she is a toxic brand, and yet they have nobody that
:15:38. > :15:42.they can find to step in her place. Meanwhile they are consumed by this
:15:43. > :15:46.infighting and bickering because of the huge problem that this has
:15:47. > :15:50.presented the party with. Apparently an irreconcilable problem at the
:15:51. > :15:54.moment. According to The Observer the search is on for a surprise
:15:55. > :16:00.candidate. Do you have any inside knowledge? Not to that surprise
:16:01. > :16:05.candidate might be. That's the issue. There have been various names
:16:06. > :16:09.touted from the middle ranks but of course there are two problems. One
:16:10. > :16:13.is the instability that would be caused by replacing the Prime
:16:14. > :16:18.Minister. That is an issue. Of course lots of people think she's
:16:19. > :16:23.probably not able to stay on for a great length of time. Certainly not
:16:24. > :16:26.until the next election. That transitional period inevitably is
:16:27. > :16:33.potentially destabilising. That is a problem. David Davis would be the
:16:34. > :16:36.obvious candidate because I think people would, broadly speaking,
:16:37. > :16:43.unite around him. But you've still got to get to the point of having a
:16:44. > :16:46.Prime Minister, although the system doesn't require you to be elected,
:16:47. > :16:51.but you get that criticism that he hasn't gone to the electorate.
:16:52. > :16:55.Obviously they don't want another general election. This story will go
:16:56. > :17:00.and go and go until Theresa May disappears. In whatever form she
:17:01. > :17:05.does. Clearly the summer is coming up so there will be lots of talk
:17:06. > :17:11.about it over the summer I'm sure, when the news isn't so prominent.
:17:12. > :17:16.There will be lots of plotting over what Sapp! Sometimes somebody does
:17:17. > :17:18.come out of the blue. Even David Cameron was relatively unknown
:17:19. > :17:27.before he became Conservative leader. He suddenly emerged, people
:17:28. > :17:31.thought he was an tested. He went to a general election and became Prime
:17:32. > :17:37.Minister. It's not inconceivable you could have these people who aren't
:17:38. > :17:46.known to the public. Just time to turn to Page ten of The Observer.
:17:47. > :17:50.Office yoga. Martin, office yoga? This is Public Health England
:17:51. > :17:53.talking about how employers can cut the sickness bill by encouraging
:17:54. > :18:01.their staff to do things that keep them fit. Walking around the office
:18:02. > :18:05.and standing desks is another. Another one is helping them with
:18:06. > :18:11.removing ingrowing toenails! The mind boggles. I wonder if that is
:18:12. > :18:16.one of the things people are off sick for. For it to have made the
:18:17. > :18:21.list of things that is in the recommendations, which I didn't
:18:22. > :18:27.know. Would you do a bit of office yoga in your lunch break? I would! I
:18:28. > :18:32.like sports where you run after a ball. It's about balance! Notice I
:18:33. > :18:34.didn't ask about your ingrowing toenails! Thank you both for coming
:18:35. > :18:36.in. Just a reminder we take a look
:18:37. > :18:42.at tomorrow's front pages every The headlines are coming up in just
:18:43. > :19:05.a few minutes. Yesterday's weather turned out to be
:19:06. > :19:08.pretty disappointing for some through the afternoon. Prolonged
:19:09. > :19:12.rain and feeling quite cool. There was some sunshine in the forecast
:19:13. > :19:13.and today looking pretty