:00:00. > :00:13.Now on BBC News, it is time for the Papers.
:00:14. > :00:17.Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be
:00:18. > :00:20.With me are Sebastian Payne from the Financial Times
:00:21. > :00:22.and Prashant Rao from the New York Times.
:00:23. > :00:25.Let's look at tomorrow's front pages.
:00:26. > :00:28.The Observer leads with President Trump's decision
:00:29. > :00:33.to sack his chief of staff causing nervousness among Republicans.
:00:34. > :00:35.The Telegraph headlines an ally of Boris Johnson
:00:36. > :00:39.attacking Philip Hammond's approach to Brexit.
:00:40. > :00:42.The Sunday Times has a report on the lives of teenage
:00:43. > :00:45.British girls who run away to join so-called Islamic State.
:00:46. > :00:47.The Mail says that Princess Diana's brother has
:00:48. > :00:51.called on Channel 4 not to broadcast her video diaries,
:00:52. > :00:56.The Express also focuses on Princess Diana,
:00:57. > :00:58.claiming the Princess asked the Queen for help
:00:59. > :01:11.And that story also makes the Daily Star's front page.
:01:12. > :01:19.So, let's begin. Let us start with the front page of the Observer.
:01:20. > :01:28.Republican fears mount after Trump's White House. It has been quite a
:01:29. > :01:32.week, how would you characterise? Has it really been a week? It feels
:01:33. > :01:35.like a month, a year... Even just listing the number of things that
:01:36. > :01:44.have happened in the past seven days is astonishing. Reince Priebus being
:01:45. > :01:49.booted for the general Kelly, Scaramucci becoming comms director,
:01:50. > :01:56.Spicer being, you know, his ragged nation. -- his resignation. It's
:01:57. > :02:02.exhausting just being here, let alone being in Rossington. That in
:02:03. > :02:08.Washington. What are the Republican fears? A
:02:09. > :02:11.sense of meltdown and not actually doing anything, reports this has
:02:12. > :02:15.been the worst week enjoyed by any US president in living memory. This
:02:16. > :02:18.really is the concern of Washington, President Trump has only been there
:02:19. > :02:21.six months to forget. It feels like longer that there has been so much
:02:22. > :02:26.news in so much happening. Yet actually nothing has happened. The
:02:27. > :02:30.president has not passed any major legislation, his operation is in
:02:31. > :02:35.chaos. This week did feel like everything came together in a ball
:02:36. > :02:40.of catastrophe, in a way, with Reince Priebus going, Anthony
:02:41. > :02:44.Scaramucci's Thai raid, extraordinary for such a senior US
:02:45. > :02:47.government official to talk in these terms. There are continued questions
:02:48. > :02:51.over the Attorney General and the health care bill, but amazing
:02:52. > :02:56.moment. In fact not mentioned here, as one of you pointed out. You talk
:02:57. > :03:00.about what is actually getting done in this. Proponents of the president
:03:01. > :03:03.would argue, he has appointed a Supreme Court justice which for most
:03:04. > :03:07.presidencies would be an enormous achievement. That is definitely
:03:08. > :03:10.true, but this health care bill has something we have been talking about
:03:11. > :03:13.not just for months but years, the repeal of Obamacare. The fact this
:03:14. > :03:18.is not even get me to play in most of the British press, there is just
:03:19. > :03:23.so much there has been happening. It's been lost. The actual
:03:24. > :03:26.legislation has been lost. Part of the problem is, people always say
:03:27. > :03:29.politics would be so much better if we had business people coming in,
:03:30. > :03:33.they will bring a tighter ship. What you are seeing now is people who do
:03:34. > :03:37.not really have a lot of political experience, because if you take the
:03:38. > :03:41.Obamacare repeal process, it took Obamacare a year to get through.
:03:42. > :03:45.They are trying to rush this through through the skinny appeal, the major
:03:46. > :03:48.appeal, all these different things. It is also the matter not
:03:49. > :03:52.understanding how to get things done. They are hoping with General
:03:53. > :03:55.Kelly coming in who is very experienced, knows how to run a
:03:56. > :03:59.tight ship, that things will get back on track and they will get some
:04:00. > :04:03.legislative progress. They risk getting to the end of this year, and
:04:04. > :04:06.I take your point on the Supreme Court, but really apart from that
:04:07. > :04:10.it's very hard to say what they have achieved. Fair point. Difficulty as
:04:11. > :04:14.well as more people jump in and out of this White House. There is a
:04:15. > :04:17.genuine question as to whether they can continue to recruit the kind of
:04:18. > :04:21.talented people that need to be in the White House. As it becomes
:04:22. > :04:25.harder to tell, do you have any staying power? What measure of multi
:04:26. > :04:29.is sufficient? Jeff Sessions was the first person, the first credible
:04:30. > :04:38.semitone came aboard the Trump campaign. Trump before Trump, in a
:04:39. > :04:43.way. -- the first credible senator. Now Trump seems to want to fire him.
:04:44. > :04:46.If that is not enough loyalty, what is? The difficulty becomes, how do
:04:47. > :04:49.you recruit people who want to work in this White House if Nolan measure
:04:50. > :04:56.of loyalty is enough? Someone said to me, the problem at the Trump
:04:57. > :04:59.White House has is the people who work there don't want to, and the
:05:00. > :05:04.people who don't do want to. There is this mismatch of skills and
:05:05. > :05:08.talents. As things continue to disintegrate before our eyes, it
:05:09. > :05:12.gets even harder. Is it disintegrating or is it just the new
:05:13. > :05:17.normal? We have to be careful not to normalise the sort of thing. Reince
:05:18. > :05:21.Priebus is the shortest serving chief of staff in White House
:05:22. > :05:24.history. You have to keep things in context here. We are bombarded with
:05:25. > :05:29.these announcements and News alerts all the time about the Trump White
:05:30. > :05:31.House, we have to remember even this time last year, this was not how
:05:32. > :05:35.things were done. This was nowhere near the way things were done. It
:05:36. > :05:40.really should not become the new normal. Sorry to cut you off, but we
:05:41. > :05:44.were discussing earlier, one thing we have not even mention was the Boy
:05:45. > :05:47.Scouts speech. That would have been a completely innocuous speech by any
:05:48. > :05:51.other politician but this has become a huge news event of itself. The
:05:52. > :05:57.reporters would have been going to the White House, to the White House
:05:58. > :06:00.speech, the poor reporters would have drawn the short straw of the
:06:01. > :06:05.Boy Scouts speech, but now there is nothing that is not news any more.
:06:06. > :06:08.You work for the New York Times, that has come under fire from the
:06:09. > :06:13.president. What is that like for colleagues? It's difficult to say.
:06:14. > :06:19.In New York, the mood is very different. There are a lot of things
:06:20. > :06:21.happening. There is still very much, the leadership says, we are doing
:06:22. > :06:27.good journalism and that's all you can ask for. The president will say
:06:28. > :06:34.what he says. I think things like people are coming to news.
:06:35. > :06:38.Subscriptions are on the rise, the Wall Street Journal as well. Coming
:06:39. > :06:42.under fire from the president is happening to everyone. We had to be
:06:43. > :06:50.careful not to say this is normal, but this is kind of what happens
:06:51. > :06:53.now. Let's move on. Front page of the Sunday Telegraph, Boris Ally
:06:54. > :06:57.attacks Hammond Brexit plan. I suppose we are going to have Brexit
:06:58. > :07:04.stories every week now four months to come. Sebastian, who is the Boris
:07:05. > :07:07.Ally? That is Gerard Lyons, who is the leading city economist, he
:07:08. > :07:11.worked for Boris Johnson in City Hall. Because the cabinet is now
:07:12. > :07:14.being more careful of what it can and can't say it is reading the
:07:15. > :07:18.ruins of it here, and Mr Lyons has written a piece for the Telegraph.
:07:19. > :07:23.I'm not quite sure how big of an attack that is, because Mr Lyons
:07:24. > :07:28.says that any transitional phase out of the EU is just two years long,
:07:29. > :07:32.which the Telegraph reports is a year longer than Mr Hammond, a year
:07:33. > :07:37.shorter, sorry, it is shorter than Mr Hammond wanted. There has any
:07:38. > :07:43.consensus growing about Brexit in the Cabinet over the past week. --
:07:44. > :07:46.has been a consensus. Everyone agrees there will be a transition
:07:47. > :07:51.out of the EU. It is really a question of how long that lasts and
:07:52. > :07:55.what it consists of. This two-year period with Mr Lyons and Mr Hammond
:07:56. > :07:59.are talking about, seems fairly acceptable. There is still this
:08:00. > :08:03.concern from Brexit supporters, to use the phrase that is in the
:08:04. > :08:07.Telegraph, there is a bridge to nowhere. A transition with a finite
:08:08. > :08:10.point. We will see a lot more of this kind of stuff over the next
:08:11. > :08:14.couple of weeks as everyone tries to get their stuff out there before the
:08:15. > :08:17.Prime Minister in September is expected to say, this is what the
:08:18. > :08:22.transition will be. This is what Brexit looks like. You say that, but
:08:23. > :08:26.on the front page of The Times you have got the international trade
:08:27. > :08:29.secretary Liam Fox denying there has been a Cabinet deal on immigration.
:08:30. > :08:33.That's the story we are running this morning as well. It does not
:08:34. > :08:41.necessarily feel that United, does it? The difficulty is, you are right
:08:42. > :08:43.to say this is not really a split. Two years, three years, in the grand
:08:44. > :08:46.scheme of things this will be worked out. The real questions are not
:08:47. > :08:51.really being tackled in the way they need to be. This is something I
:08:52. > :08:53.think you are right, there will be a transition, everyone agrees that,
:08:54. > :08:57.whatever it turns out to be. Immigration is much more difficult
:08:58. > :09:02.because I think Philip Hammond and certain other members of the Cabinet
:09:03. > :09:05.do seem to want some measure of immigration, especially from the EU.
:09:06. > :09:09.I think there is a reasonable economic argument to make that
:09:10. > :09:12.Britain could use some immigration, especially as the population ages
:09:13. > :09:16.and younger migrants come through. But then it is, what the people vote
:09:17. > :09:19.for last year. Did they vote for less immigration? That seems to be a
:09:20. > :09:24.reasonable consensus that there was a desire for that. We were talking
:09:25. > :09:29.early as well, this is just one of a whole host of located issues, that
:09:30. > :09:34.not enough is being talked about. Northern Ireland is another one.
:09:35. > :09:37.That's on the front page of the observer I think. How you get
:09:38. > :09:42.through this in 18 months, I just don't know. And of course the
:09:43. > :09:51.speculation about people manoeuvring within the Cabinet, for eventual
:09:52. > :09:57.leadership successes. Leadership. Yes, I was just grasping for words
:09:58. > :10:00.there. There are tribes in a way. You have Damian Green who was
:10:01. > :10:04.essentially the Deputy Prime Minister and Philip Hammond wanting
:10:05. > :10:07.a soft as possible approach. They do not want any kind of cliff edge
:10:08. > :10:13.break. Others like Michael Gove and Liam Fox want to jettison the EU and
:10:14. > :10:18.back out there and start negotiating these new trade deals. The problem
:10:19. > :10:21.is we have not really had that conversation over the past year with
:10:22. > :10:25.what Brexit looks like. A lot of the past year has been people scratching
:10:26. > :10:28.their chins and thinking, but not much leadership from the government.
:10:29. > :10:32.I think this is where it turns to the premise in the autumn, when she
:10:33. > :10:35.comes back from a walking holiday in Switzerland. Hopefully she can say
:10:36. > :10:40.right, this is where it's going to be. If you keep having these splits
:10:41. > :10:43.about little details about the transition period, you don't get to
:10:44. > :10:47.the issues we are talking about, about what our migration policy will
:10:48. > :10:51.be, what will the Irish border lookalike, is the ECJ going to have
:10:52. > :10:54.a role? That ultimately will decide what Brexit looks like, and whether
:10:55. > :11:01.it will fill the needs of the 52% devoted to last summer. Let's move
:11:02. > :11:10.on to a story we will have a lot of, Princess Diana. -- the 52% who voted
:11:11. > :11:13.to leave last summer. Lots of papers happiness but let's
:11:14. > :11:19.look at the mail. Don't show Diana Love tapes on TV, please what's
:11:20. > :11:22.that? This is a series of conversations, I believe there are
:11:23. > :11:27.12 tapes in total, but seven are the basis for the stock imagery from
:11:28. > :11:32.Channel 4 regarding Princess Diana as the marriage was falling apart,
:11:33. > :11:39.in the midst of the separation. She talks in very Private terms about
:11:40. > :11:45.the honest conversations she had been having with the Queen, with
:11:46. > :11:49.Prince Charles himself. There is some... This has been broadcast
:11:50. > :11:56.before, this is the first time it would be on British TV. NBC
:11:57. > :12:01.broadcast as the male motes in 2004. -- NBC broadcast this, as the mail
:12:02. > :12:05.notes. I can understand why family members don't want this to be
:12:06. > :12:09.broadcast but there does not seem to be any legal justification for it
:12:10. > :12:12.not be broadcast. The real debate is because these tapes were part of
:12:13. > :12:17.some training sessions, I believe, according to the reports. The
:12:18. > :12:19.question is, did Diana ever woollies board was? Obviously we will never
:12:20. > :12:27.know the answer and that's the real question here. -- did Diana ever
:12:28. > :12:30.want these broadcast? Some other papers as well, sources close to
:12:31. > :12:34.Prince William and Harry saying they don't really want them broadcast.
:12:35. > :12:40.But you are right, there is no legal justification. I suppose it comes
:12:41. > :12:44.back to taste grounds, public interest, and public appetite. It is
:12:45. > :12:47.incredible, 20 years since the death of Diana and the public appetite for
:12:48. > :12:51.this story does not seem to be really that much less than it was in
:12:52. > :12:55.the late 90s. As we roll into August, I think there will be a lot
:12:56. > :12:59.more of this as well. I suppose so much of it has been reported, are
:13:00. > :13:04.nothing new is seized on as an opportunity. What is interesting is
:13:05. > :13:07.the princes, William and Harry, have opened up quite a lot in recent
:13:08. > :13:14.weeks about their relationship with their mother. They of course have a
:13:15. > :13:17.right and want to own the story. She was their mother. But other people
:13:18. > :13:24.want to tell the story in different ways. There is a tension there.
:13:25. > :13:27.Absolutely. We saw the ITV documentary where they very much
:13:28. > :13:30.opened up in a personal way, putting their side of the story across,
:13:31. > :13:34.where is this is a very different side. There was a lot of reporting
:13:35. > :13:37.that they were very involved in a documentary. It was not just
:13:38. > :13:41.interviews and being on camera, but they chose people who would be
:13:42. > :13:48.there, it was very much as you say, them presenting their side of it.
:13:49. > :13:52.Not there multiple sides, but their story. But there are multiple
:13:53. > :13:55.stories to be told. Appetite for stories for Princess Diana have
:13:56. > :13:59.shown no signs of abating over 20 years. She was an astonishing
:14:00. > :14:02.figure, I think that I did read imagery we went into a lot of the
:14:03. > :14:07.remarkable thing she did. It's easy to forget that she was remarkable in
:14:08. > :14:10.so many ways. This document tree, it's very uncomfortable viewing I'm
:14:11. > :14:16.sure, it will be uncomfortable for memories of her family, her sons. --
:14:17. > :14:19.members of her family. But I'm sure there will be more
:14:20. > :14:23.bluster, this to come as we get closer to the anniversary next
:14:24. > :14:29.month. Let's move on, I'm keen to get another story. The Times has
:14:30. > :14:34.done a bit report on the life of teenage brides in Islamic State,
:14:35. > :14:40.so-called Little Britain. Young women like these British and western
:14:41. > :14:44.women who have married fighters for so-called Islamic State, not a news
:14:45. > :14:49.story in a sense of what this reveals is a lot of detail we did
:14:50. > :14:53.not know. Hugely, there is also this issue of their legal status as well.
:14:54. > :14:57.Alongside this we have the story about the government stripping
:14:58. > :15:00.hundreds of jihadists on British passports. A very emotional story on
:15:01. > :15:06.the front page of the Sunday Times today about one of these so-called
:15:07. > :15:09.jihadis brides who has had her, she is stateless, she has no
:15:10. > :15:14.citizenship, no passport. She had gone to the so-called Islamic State
:15:15. > :15:18.to marry a fighter that. What we are seeing here is that Isis is
:15:19. > :15:22.collapsing. The fight does seem to be making progress. Syria is on the
:15:23. > :15:26.brink of collapse as well. When that happens, what will happen to all
:15:27. > :15:30.these people? These people who have British passports as well. This is
:15:31. > :15:33.of great concern to the security services here, because there is a
:15:34. > :15:36.quote from the senior source who says there is an awful lot of people
:15:37. > :15:42.we have found who will never be coming home again. Our number-1
:15:43. > :15:45.preferences to get them on trial. We don't think that's possible, we use
:15:46. > :15:50.disruption techniques. Depriving people of passports? Exactly. Trying
:15:51. > :15:55.to control the situation that is very hard to control. It will only
:15:56. > :16:00.get worse. The momentum seems to be against the Islamic State, as they
:16:01. > :16:06.continue to lose territory in Syria. She talks in this interview, it's
:16:07. > :16:09.remarkable, her hardships on morale. Fighters and their wives spoke about
:16:10. > :16:14.leaving, most wanted to go she said, but they did not know how. More and
:16:15. > :16:17.more people, wanting to go back to Germany, Britain is not alone in
:16:18. > :16:20.confronting this problem. Another thing where her parents plead with
:16:21. > :16:24.the government to let her go home but the bureaucracy is a movable and
:16:25. > :16:29.she fears the stigma she would face if she did return. They will say she
:16:30. > :16:33.is Isis, she says. Huge problems, legal problems with what you do with
:16:34. > :16:37.these people. There are people born in Islamic State territory whose
:16:38. > :16:41.passports will be held, if they are nationals of Britain, Denmark, all
:16:42. > :16:45.these countries. Even if they do come back, how do you reintegrate
:16:46. > :16:49.them into society? Do you put them in jail? What do you do with the
:16:50. > :16:52.children? There are a whole host of problems countries are only
:16:53. > :16:55.beginning to grapple with as the Islamic State Falls, and as that
:16:56. > :17:00.happens, there will be a huge number of problems that I get to be
:17:01. > :17:04.confronted. The British government is taking a very tough line on this,
:17:05. > :17:08.simply saying given the events of this year they are very conscious
:17:09. > :17:12.first of all not necessarily of the reintegration but about the security
:17:13. > :17:16.element. How do you track them? We do not have any good methods in this
:17:17. > :17:20.country for tracking people who come in and out of Borders. That is their
:17:21. > :17:25.first concern. They say there is a great human question toward this as
:17:26. > :17:26.well. We are going to have to leave it there. Thank you both very much.
:17:27. > :17:30.Thank you Sebastian Payne from the Financial Times
:17:31. > :17:44.and Prashant Rao from the New York Times.
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