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:00:00. > :00:20.Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be bringing

:00:21. > :00:27.us tomorrow. With me are journalist and author Sarfraz Manzoor and Laura

:00:28. > :00:34.Hughes, political correspondent at the Daily Telegraph. For whom this

:00:35. > :00:40.is going to be quite an education. Welcome to you both. Tomorrow's

:00:41. > :00:45.front pages then. The Daily Mail dedicates its front page to Sir

:00:46. > :00:48.Bruce Forsyth who has died aged 89. The paper says he had been unwell

:00:49. > :00:57.and died with his family at his side. The Daily Express also gives a

:00:58. > :01:03.full page to Sir Bruce. The Sun called him the best-loved telly

:01:04. > :01:06.legend. The Mirror also joins in commemorations for the entertainer

:01:07. > :01:12.dedicating seven pages in this edition to his legacy.

:01:13. > :01:15.The Telegraph has a tribute but leads with the attacks in Barcelona

:01:16. > :01:20.saying Spanish security services have begun an extensive manhunt for

:01:21. > :01:27.the remaining killers. The Times also leads with the as in Spain with

:01:28. > :01:33.the news -- with the attacks in Spain with the news that the police

:01:34. > :01:39.are focussing their efforts in North Africa The Guardian writes that

:01:40. > :01:44.terrorists had planned a bombing raid across Barcelona but abandoned

:01:45. > :01:48.when they blew up a house where they were stockpiling explosives.

:01:49. > :01:52.Bruce Forsyth has died at the age of 89. We of course remember him from

:01:53. > :01:59.many of his game shows. Back in the day. You know, we tell our children

:02:00. > :02:02.off for watching too much telly, we were obviously fans of the small

:02:03. > :02:09.screen because we know a lot of the work. The Sun has a lot of famous

:02:10. > :02:13.quotes. Higher higher, lower lower, and nice to see you and things. I

:02:14. > :02:17.was thinking that I was on Twitter earlier and a couple of people were

:02:18. > :02:21.moaning about how the BBC is headlining and going first on Bruce

:02:22. > :02:25.Forsyth as opposed to other stories, and it struck me the thing about

:02:26. > :02:28.someone like Forsyth is they're one-offs, there is never going to be

:02:29. > :02:34.somebody who is 89 who has managed to have a career for 60 years in

:02:35. > :02:38.television and we are from different ages and what's interesting is that

:02:39. > :02:43.the Bruce Forsyth I remember is from the 70s, The Generation Game and

:02:44. > :02:47.there were people in the 60s remember him from the Palladium and

:02:48. > :02:50.then Strictly, this is somebody, every generation has their own Bruce

:02:51. > :02:55.Forsyth and that's not going to happen again. An extraordinary

:02:56. > :02:59.career and he came to younger people's attention through Strictly

:03:00. > :03:03.and the talent he had was the same no matter what he did. He reached my

:03:04. > :03:08.younger sister, who is eight, she will know who he is. So, despite the

:03:09. > :03:12.age difference the youngest people in our society will know and

:03:13. > :03:18.recognise who he is and who he was. I can't think of an equivalent to

:03:19. > :03:23.him today that was so multitalented, that had so many different skills,

:03:24. > :03:26.now we have comedians and dancers and singers, we don't have those

:03:27. > :03:29.wonderful characters as much. The other thing that's interesting, he

:03:30. > :03:34.started out when he was 14. I think when he was 16 he was entertaining

:03:35. > :03:38.troops before D-day but he didn't get his gig on TV until he was 30.

:03:39. > :03:45.So he had 16 years to hone his craft. Today, you only have to do,

:03:46. > :03:49.be a dodgy pop band and before you know it you are presenting a

:03:50. > :03:54.programme. Now people can be famous for five minutes and they're gone.

:03:55. > :04:00.There is a lovely picture of him, nice to see you, to see you nice.

:04:01. > :04:05.So many catchphrases. You get away with being cheesy in a way that

:04:06. > :04:10.other people couldn't. Joining in, the Brits are so reserved and when

:04:11. > :04:14.he got you to call out, grown men replied to him. The secret of

:04:15. > :04:18.somebody who can last that long is that ultimately you felt like you

:04:19. > :04:23.had - he was being honest but it was who he really was. I think that's

:04:24. > :04:28.hard to fake that honesty and that's why he had that relationship which

:04:29. > :04:34.meant he wasn't smarmy with the audience. He was actually cheeky

:04:35. > :04:38.with contestants. He could be rude. But get away with it. That's the

:04:39. > :04:43.charm. The other thing to remember is there was a time when he got out

:04:44. > :04:48.of favour, towards the end of the 90s, and it was actually Have I Got

:04:49. > :04:52.News For You that rescued him, turning up and presenting Have I Got

:04:53. > :04:58.News For You revived his career and got him on to Strictly. In a way he

:04:59. > :05:01.owes, like Boris Johnson, he owes his career to Have I Got News For

:05:02. > :05:05.You. Maybe that's where their similarities end, I am not sure. He

:05:06. > :05:11.has provided us with a lot of laughs today. Very sad. Let's look at a

:05:12. > :05:18.couple of the newspapers and how they're reporting the aftermath of

:05:19. > :05:24.the attacks in Barcelona and Cambrils. Hunt for terror cell, it

:05:25. > :05:29.says. Focus on Africa as attack plan revealed but didn't get carried out.

:05:30. > :05:33.The photograph is of a little boy, a British boy, who is missing. Still

:05:34. > :05:39.missing as is with the case every time a story like this happens and

:05:40. > :05:42.attack, people get separated in chaos, they pick tourist areas,

:05:43. > :05:47.therefore you are affecting the whole world. I think 34 different

:05:48. > :05:52.nationalalities represented by all the victims or those injured in this

:05:53. > :05:55.attack. The fact that he has been separated just gives you answer idea

:05:56. > :06:00.of the carnage that was left by these men. Also the more scary thing

:06:01. > :06:06.today was this wasn't plan A for them, they had plan A, plan B and C

:06:07. > :06:10.and didn't work, this was the most basic plan they had. They actually

:06:11. > :06:14.wanted to bring in gas cannisters and the damage they could have done

:06:15. > :06:21.could have been a lot greater. I think it's interesting choice for

:06:22. > :06:25.The Times to go with that and have a picture of Bruce at the top and have

:06:26. > :06:30.this little boy's face. I was reminded with the Manchester Arena

:06:31. > :06:33.attack and there was an eight-year-old girl and we don't

:06:34. > :06:37.want to use the word normal when it comes to these depraved acts but

:06:38. > :06:41.it's interesting there are echos of the same patterns that happen. It's

:06:42. > :06:44.the same as in the I, there is people marching saying we are not

:06:45. > :06:48.afraid and you are going to hear echos of that in Manchester and

:06:49. > :06:52.other places and it's almost like the same rhythm happens. For me one

:06:53. > :06:58.of the most shocking things is that one of the suspects, who I think has

:06:59. > :07:04.been killed, is only 17 years old. Yes. A 17-year-old. You think in

:07:05. > :07:07.that time he has managed to grow up and feel like this is going to be

:07:08. > :07:10.something that he is willing to do and that level of criminal

:07:11. > :07:14.brainwashing at that age is shocking. The other thing that's

:07:15. > :07:18.interesting, most of these guys are Moroccan and I think two of the

:07:19. > :07:26.London Bridge attackers were Moroccan, as well, this idea of

:07:27. > :07:31.North Africa becoming a hub for criminal Islamist action. There are

:07:32. > :07:37.two Spanish enclaves at the top of Africa, they're supposed to be

:07:38. > :07:41.places where there are extremists preparing attacks or certainly

:07:42. > :07:47.they're under the attention of the security services. Which is

:07:48. > :07:50.surprising because surprisingly it's a country not associated with

:07:51. > :07:55.Islamist attacks and comparative democracies, etc. So the fact

:07:56. > :08:00.they're breeding these kind of people who are then doing such acts

:08:01. > :08:06.outside is very worrying. Some commentators have been saying that

:08:07. > :08:11.the number of people involved is surprising because if it is a group

:08:12. > :08:15.that's been encouraged by IS, they're saying, keep your numbers

:08:16. > :08:19.small, you are less likely to be detected and using vans and knifes

:08:20. > :08:23.and that kind of thing doesn't attract so much attention. They

:08:24. > :08:27.think it's a cell of 12 people and this is turned into an international

:08:28. > :08:30.effort now, all security forces joining together to hunt for these

:08:31. > :08:36.people. It's bigger. If you get to the point where vans and trucks are

:08:37. > :08:40.used, rather than planes, you can't really prevent that in terms of a

:08:41. > :08:43.security thing, it has to be about ideas, it has to be about

:08:44. > :08:49.intelligence, trying to get to them before. As a weapon you can't block

:08:50. > :08:55.every road and a van is too common. The only way to do it is prevent it,

:08:56. > :08:59.that has to be intelligence, if it is a network of 12 people have to

:09:00. > :09:05.know those people. The picture on The I you mentioned, we are not

:09:06. > :09:12.afraid, huge crowds and once again out on the streets having seen Las

:09:13. > :09:15.Ramblas deserted after that van caused havoc yesterday, that sense

:09:16. > :09:20.people want to say this is not going to change our lives. It is a pattern

:09:21. > :09:25.of seeing this and the defiance after. And the language of the

:09:26. > :09:29.politicians and mayors. You have to say those things but after a while

:09:30. > :09:33.they're not going to march and say we are terrified. They have to say

:09:34. > :09:38.those things. The implication it could happen anywhere is a worrying

:09:39. > :09:44.thing. Couple of stories, a couple of pages about the departure of

:09:45. > :09:48.Steve Bannon from the White House, chief strategist credited with

:09:49. > :09:51.helping Donald Trump to power. But his position has seemed increasingly

:09:52. > :09:54.precarious as so many other people were dismissed from the

:09:55. > :09:58.administration. Yeah, I think there seems to be a link between doing an

:09:59. > :10:04.interview with anybody and getting coverage that's not Donald Trump's

:10:05. > :10:08.coverage and then getting fired. The Mooch, as you were saying last time,

:10:09. > :10:12.he gave an interview to the New Yorker and got fired because he got

:10:13. > :10:16.too much attention. Steve Bannan gave an interview to the American

:10:17. > :10:19.Prospect and got fired. I think Donald Trump doesn't like being,

:10:20. > :10:23.having headlines stolen from him in some ways. I think possibly he was

:10:24. > :10:28.feeling that Bannon was getting too much attention which was one of the

:10:29. > :10:31.reasons he might have had to go. Also there was a faction within

:10:32. > :10:35.Donald Trump's own wife, his son-in-law, others in the White

:10:36. > :10:40.House, who wanted him to go because it was seen, Steve Bannon was the

:10:41. > :10:45.editor of a far-right wing media outlet in America, he was credited

:10:46. > :10:48.with the rise of Trump but also associated with a lot of white

:10:49. > :10:52.supremacist violence we have seen and it's been reported he was one of

:10:53. > :10:58.the influences telling Donald Trump to take a more balanced tone and not

:10:59. > :11:01.come out and condemn the white supremacists for what they were.

:11:02. > :11:05.Particularly having seen what happened in char lotsville. That's

:11:06. > :11:09.been damaging for Donald Trump and the mother of the woman who died in

:11:10. > :11:14.the violence is refusing to speak to him. Maybe this is an effort...

:11:15. > :11:25.Weirdly his ratings have gone up amongst republican supporters. The

:11:26. > :11:32.only good thing is if Bannon starts being vicious, Bannon versus Trump

:11:33. > :11:43.is like Batman and superman, but with two villains.

:11:44. > :11:53.Who else did Donald dump, which is better? You wonder what this is

:11:54. > :11:58.going to do to this sort of mix in the White House? I feel unless you

:11:59. > :12:03.are a birth relative or married into the Trump family you can't really

:12:04. > :12:10.assume that you are safe. We will wait and see. Finally, The Times,

:12:11. > :12:13.page four. Fears for mental health of GCSE pupils striving for the new

:12:14. > :12:17.A double star grade. This is next year. All the GCSEs are going to be

:12:18. > :12:22.changed from being graded by letters into numbers. The top grade will be

:12:23. > :12:27.a nine. You are going to have to work superhard to get one.

:12:28. > :12:31.Apparently eight is still an A*. It's just another layer of stress.

:12:32. > :12:38.Now an A* is not good enough, you have to get the top bracket in that

:12:39. > :12:42.A*. The margins are tightening. Yet it's a number and it's significant

:12:43. > :12:48.when you are young trying to get to university, etc. This comes in the

:12:49. > :12:53.context of overstretched young People Before Profit's mental health

:12:54. > :12:56.-- young people's overstretched mental health services. Is this

:12:57. > :13:02.necessary to add more stress to young people? It feels immensely

:13:03. > :13:08.unfair to me that young people are under so much stress and even when

:13:09. > :13:12.they do well it's often said they're so much easier these days than they

:13:13. > :13:17.used to be. This is a move to make the exams tougher than they've been

:13:18. > :13:20.for a while. It seems like grade inflation in a sense, I personally

:13:21. > :13:24.think if you are going to change education make it feel like you are

:13:25. > :13:28.learning things in a more holistic way. You are actually understanding

:13:29. > :13:33.the subject. My worry is when I talk to friends with kids who are older

:13:34. > :13:39.than mine is there's so much pressure to learn the facts and to

:13:40. > :13:43.pass the thing rather than knowing things which a different thing. I

:13:44. > :13:48.feel this is getting you more stress but are you understanding the world

:13:49. > :13:52.better? It's often said that children at school now, we are

:13:53. > :13:56.trying to train them to do jobs that don't even exist yet. How do we even

:13:57. > :14:00.know that we are teaching them the right things? I personally think

:14:01. > :14:03.that if you are going to get so stressed about something at that age

:14:04. > :14:10.you are going to have stress so much more as you are getting older

:14:11. > :14:14.anyway. I feel you should protect youth more, rather than encouraging

:14:15. > :14:19.mental health issues at an early age that may get embedded for the rest

:14:20. > :14:22.of their lives. You have to test people somehow. It's difficult

:14:23. > :14:25.balance. Everyone needs a little bit of stress and children do need to

:14:26. > :14:30.obviously try and achieve something to get to the next stage of their

:14:31. > :14:34.lives. I think I worked harder during my GCSEs and A-levels than I

:14:35. > :14:38.did at university. But not now, you are working extremely hard now. Even

:14:39. > :14:42.at this time of night. That's it for The Papers for tonight. Don't forget

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